14 New World Records

By thopa·
chrizZo

kzcn_brickblock done in ( 04:18 007 )
kz_chinabl0ck_ez done in ( 03:52 007 )

KeltA

cg_arizonabhop done in ( 01:40 KeltA )

w1zz

kz_kzsca_pyramid_ez done in ( 04:33 Dujes )

BupTuk

kz_exodus_ez done in ( 02:33 kunqui )

mgD*

kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[+1337] done in ( 05:16 zhady )
dg_insane done in ( 07:52 7D )

kunqui

kz_kzdk_droughthop done in ( 02:32 omilo )
clintmo_pentablock done in ( 04:05 mgD )
kz_mathland done in ( 02:33 mgD )

akkord

kz_space2 done in ( 01:18 kunqui )

Flibo

kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[-1337] done in ( 03:34 dadadaXD )

StormZz

clintmo_longjumper[e] done in ( 01:03 StormZz )

mjuuh

clintmo_bhopriver done in ( 00:22 StormZz )

Read the extended news post for demos that were improved or didnt quite make it. And also about a demo release change, and about why mgD's demo replaced zhadys demo.

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01/03/2009 20:54:00

XJ ONFIRE!!! gj every1

01/03/2009 20:55:00

gj all

01/03/2009 20:56:00

omg so much news :D GJ!

01/03/2009 20:59:00

again that speedboost @ bhopriver :/

01/03/2009 21:00:00

W1zz <3, mgD <3, flibo gj.. mby i'l try to take it back:p

01/03/2009 21:00:00

BupTuk <3

01/03/2009 21:01:00

way to much information today but i like it :D gj w1zz!!chrizZo mgD kunqui ;)

01/03/2009 21:02:00

wow :O

01/03/2009 21:02:00

lol @ arizonabhop

01/03/2009 21:04:00

sick times fosho !!

01/03/2009 21:05:00

very sad that StormZz' demo got beaten by such a way and kelta's demo was uber.

01/03/2009 21:05:00

Good job guys esp chrizZo, mgD, w1zz, akkord, Flibo, StormZz & mjuuh <3

01/03/2009 21:06:00

[size=20][color=#3300ff][b]gj th[/color]opa[/b][/size]

01/03/2009 21:07:00

GJ Flibo, KeltA, chrizZo and StormZz

01/03/2009 21:09:00

[img][b][u][u]gj BupTuk[/u][/u][/b][/img]

01/03/2009 21:09:00

GJ BupTuk ! The best !!!

01/03/2009 21:12:00

Mjuuh,river is my. It's my sc(((

01/03/2009 21:14:00

w1zz love ya <3

01/03/2009 21:14:00

kz_kzfr_rabbithighway[+1337] done in 05:16 ( 05:16 se zhady ) WTF? and why mgD nick red color? Oo

01/03/2009 21:16:00

[b]sliven glivera[/b]: Read the extended newspost.

01/03/2009 21:17:00

GJ all !

01/03/2009 21:21:00

ouphh sry, del my post pls :)

01/03/2009 21:24:00

BupTuk nice [b]^_^[/b]

01/03/2009 21:25:00

nice demos...

01/03/2009 21:28:00

thopa, with the new rules you allow 0.1 sec record breaking if the time was, for example, 31.001 secs (and KZ showed 30 secs) and you make a demo with 30.999 secs (and KZ also shows 30) -> 0.002 secs difference and new record? sounds like you're giving the whole second barrier a distinct significance over all other times... it is a tough problem to solve, but i think once you start introducing these extra rules you will end up having to include accurate times for all world records with the possibility of beating a WR by any amount. keep up the good work though, it's great to see someone giving this some thought!

01/03/2009 21:28:00

GJ mgD

01/03/2009 21:32:00

gj w1zz :DDD

01/03/2009 21:32:00

that battlemovie is the best one ever!

01/03/2009 21:36:00

Flibo <3 says : "Maybe I'll try to take it back " gj man!!!

01/03/2009 21:42:00

omfg stormzz mjuuh buptuk chrizzo kunqui akkord

01/03/2009 21:43:00

[b]derpierre[/b]: I know, and it's just a first step to make the demos more accurate. In the future there might be tools and features on this website so we can also handle quicker times in a better way, but this first step is primarily to handle demos like in mgD and zhady's case. It wouldn't be right to not accept mgD's demo. Every clock shows he is quicker, and his youtube-video shows it. That's why I had to make this rule (or first step), although I would like to take it further, and accept demos that's 0.1 seconds faster than the previous.

01/03/2009 21:54:00

GJ KeltA, although I think 1:37 is still possible :)

01/03/2009 21:56:00

What THE ? BupTuk first found this sc of speed , his demo must be , not mjuuh's , shit remaker . Gj all

01/03/2009 21:57:00

Ya... chrizZo !!... nj :)

01/03/2009 21:58:00

gj for 1 secS...007 :[

01/03/2009 22:02:00

mgd run so fast on dg_insane ,,,,, i jump 07:4x with more bhops ><.. NJ :D w1zz <3 flibo <3 crazy man chrizZo and kunqui st0rmzZ @@|| akkord and KeltA are power !! mjuuh :O

01/03/2009 22:09:00

gj all, crazy demos

01/03/2009 22:10:00

omg nice^^ and thopa <3

01/03/2009 22:10:00

haha mjuuh, nice <3 Gj all

01/03/2009 22:10:00

kunqui insane

01/03/2009 22:11:00

BupTuk GJ!)

01/03/2009 22:20:00

sexy stuff Gj thopa

01/03/2009 22:22:00

That bhopriver demo gotta be the most pathetic demo I've ever seen. Can't believe that shit is legit, wtf... Will comment the rest of the demos later.. No disrespect mjuuh...but seriously...

01/03/2009 22:24:00

Imagine newcommers playing bhopriver public and then look for the WR and they see this shit? Crazy what XJ has become.

01/03/2009 22:30:00

pwned! haha well said :D

01/03/2009 22:32:00

nice sc @ bhopriver mjuhh i liked :D

01/03/2009 22:34:00

007 :(

01/03/2009 22:42:00

[blockquote]That bhopriver demo gotta be the most pathetic demo I've ever seen. Can't believe that shit is legit, wtf... Will comment the rest of the demos later.. No disrespect mjuuh...but seriously...[/blockquote] There's no intelligent way to disallow that kind of shortcuts IMO... So just let it be :/

01/03/2009 22:47:00

mjuuh what the.. gj stormzz :]

01/03/2009 23:10:00

gj all spe mgd, kelta, chrizzo and kunqui of course

01/03/2009 23:11:00

Gj kelta but thopa i think if someone have an fps 0040,07 (39 in timer fo sho) and other have 0039,98 it must be a new wr.. Its lesser and its wright.. And if 0039,98 39timer and 0039,41 i think it doesnt matter.. And ex3 if 0039,98 and 39timer, and 0039,22 and 38 in timer, that might be accepted its my opinion and i think its true sr for many "and" word :-)

01/03/2009 23:12:00

GJ all Mjuuh BupTuk <3 others...

01/03/2009 23:24:00

gj mgD,kunqui,StormzZ my idols :]]

01/03/2009 23:25:00

[b]eFFoRt[/b]: I think I understood you, and that's how it is, and will be. And the people that are against this. Please tell me what answer I would've given to mgD if I would not accept his demo and instead keep zhady's demo.

01/03/2009 23:33:00

omg rpz_downfall[race] is 5.81577s if i rec a demo 5.80xxs can be new wr @@? (ps.I don`t really want rec )

01/03/2009 23:56:00

!!! chrizZo, KetlA, Flibo, thopa !!!

02/03/2009 00:11:00

chrizZo, akkord, StormZz. KeltA, Flibo and mjuuh

02/03/2009 00:26:00

chriZzo, mgD, w1zz, Kunqui gj !

02/03/2009 00:27:00

gj all!

02/03/2009 01:13:00

2 of 007's classical demos had been anticipated to break sry,i m late to choose them for challenging hi thopa if a WR dont according to the time showed on hourmeter,i think it s not suitable. great majority of ppl also dont know the real time may be here mgD's 0516 faster than there zhady's 0516(real time 0518) if the faster one showed 0517 but the real time 0516?! what would u deal with? in my opinion,we are just for fun,though one is faster,timer hourmeter's show is the fanal. international competition can have the nomal order of mistakes. such as on the tennis court,everyone could not challenge the hawk-eye all the time they want. is it possible that a condition of confusion coming?! :(

02/03/2009 03:30:00

KeltA insane @ arizonabhop!

02/03/2009 04:24:00

chrizZo is a cheater ,in my opinion!

02/03/2009 05:24:00

Keltaaa omfg, deasyunas con pintura ?

02/03/2009 06:31:00

GJ all!! akkord - nice

02/03/2009 07:01:00

007 :( gj kunqui, chrizZo, mgD, Flibo, StormZz, mjuuh esp akkord :o very nice

02/03/2009 07:06:00

For the guys who think that I "copied" buptuk... I was trying to beat this map (without that sc) So I accidentally found that ramp boost thing and thought I can use it for a speed boost to the timer ( I know it`s lame sc, so don`t remind me of that) And "What THE ? BupTuk first found this sc of speed , his demo must be , not mjuuh's , shit remaker . Gj all" At the time when I beat that map, I didn`t even know that buptuk had done 20/21 sec with the same(?) sc...so dont tell me that im "remaker" rofl.

02/03/2009 08:14:00

mgD<3 gj all

02/03/2009 09:58:00

mjuuh, if you tried to beat the map without the sc? Why didn't you even do one single skip more than StormZz's run? StormZz's run was a 23.1 run but he got 22.999 cus of his uber speed. I can't check your fps-death time atm, but if it is like 20.2 then it's easily beaten with the run I already did on that map. But I'm not even gonna try since that sc is waaay to lame to be true.. Us jumpers shouldn't accept that there isn't no rule against it. You did NOTHING faster than StormZz on the actual map, in fact I'm pretty sure that StormZz's run was faster as well as mine for sure. I just think it's stupidity that the admins are allowing this kind of movement before you even push the start-button.

02/03/2009 10:00:00

You wouldn't even have gotten close to 21sec with that run. It's a good run, don't get me wrong - but we are talking WR here on a 20-25 sec map.

02/03/2009 13:28:00

gj all of you .. Kelta [insane] mgD [zeh pwn] Kunqui [awesome as allways (next release #top3)] Flibo [GJ] chrizZo [you fast bitch :/] StormzZ [gj man !] mjuuh [go beat it w/o the sc just to show us that u can do it !] cheche I agree with you 100%. Maybe there will be taken some decisions. Who knows?

02/03/2009 13:34:00

kelta :o stormzz !

02/03/2009 14:25:00

Gj chrizzo stromzz wizz and mjuhh :D mgd n1

02/03/2009 14:49:00

yup cheche, my run wasnt really that good, but I have done 22 sec even without that sc...

02/03/2009 14:55:00

and btw, I dont mind if you make a rule against that sc on bhopriver, actually it would be better to do so.

02/03/2009 15:13:00

BupT <33333

02/03/2009 15:58:00

Good Job All :-D

02/03/2009 16:02:00

akkord, type _cl_autowepswitch 0 and that weapon shit will disappear :] good job all

02/03/2009 16:10:00

great

02/03/2009 17:19:00

mjuuh, your was good, really. Just not better than the WR, that was my point. Didn't you had done 22, could you upload it?

02/03/2009 17:20:00

I 'll try again; mjuuh, your [b]run[/b] was good, really. Just not better than the WR, that was my point. Didn't [b]know[/b] you had done 22, could you upload it?

02/03/2009 17:22:00

Not that it changes anything, since there is a huge difference between 22 and 21. I would just love to see it.

02/03/2009 18:29:00

mgD > zhady gj

02/03/2009 19:33:00

Goodjob :) peace

02/03/2009 19:59:00

>3 mgD nice job love ya :)

02/03/2009 22:44:00

[b]SiMen.ivanbasso[/b]: "...if the faster one showed 0517 but the real time 0516?! what would u deal with?" What? The kz timer [b]is not[/b] as accurate as the HL engine time. This has never happened, and will not happen. Unless it's perhaps some random sn_ map where the timer sometimes jumps around with it's own will. "international competition can have the nomal order of mistakes." No. International competition should have no mistakes, and the quicker demo should be the WR - no matter what. Does this take the fun out of it? NO - it feeds the competition and more people have a chance. "such as on the tennis court,everyone could not challenge the hawk-eye all the time they want." This is not tennis. All sports have their set of rules. "is it possible that a condition of confusion coming?!" Yes, perhaps. But only from the people that is in the position to loose a WR. The rest (which includes far more people) see an opportunity to get the most "time-correct" listed as a WR. The coin will always have two sides, and there will always be negative and positive thoughts no matter the outcome. "great majority of ppl also dont know the real time" That's because the website doesn't offer such feature, but if you are interested in a demo, it will take you 60 sec including download to find this out. So it's not a problem. Nothing is a problem, only for lazy people, and such people belongs infront of the TV.

03/03/2009 03:58:00

so exhaustive replies thopa <3 maybe i thought 2 of not very suitable to compare if zhady want to break this,maybe 04XX coming

03/03/2009 09:53:00

+1 thopa How ANYONE prefers a slower demo as WR will always remain a mystery. What is up with you guys, seriously? The ingame timer is old and buggy as hell and is not even worth paying attention too.

03/03/2009 19:13:00

nice work thopa! gj: chrizzo gj2: mgd gj3: everyone else

03/03/2009 21:48:00

cheche, i don't see why that "sc" not should be used in WR, that speedboost thing is a part of the map that means it isn't a bug, but i agree if it was a bug it would be some kind of lame, but still nice found, GJ mjuuh!

03/03/2009 22:47:00

gj w1zz! gj all!!

04/03/2009 08:05:00

cheche, will you stop crying? I consider it as a WR because the time is better on it...

04/03/2009 09:49:00

Well good for you then Flibo.

04/03/2009 09:51:00

Obviously you are pro the high speed before even thouching the timer since you started this mess. So can't say I'm that surprised by your comment.

04/03/2009 12:54:00

So what your saying cheche is that SuPa's WR on kz_42_amazon is ridiculous too ?

04/03/2009 13:30:00

Even Supa himself agree with that Psycho.

04/03/2009 13:55:00

Yes that's what I'm saying kzno`Psycho, and it's about time we make a rule against this - before we have more WR's destroyed by this.

04/03/2009 14:34:00

Cheche, maps get destroyed not the wr's... I kinda got the feeling that you got pissed because mjuuh didnt have such a great run in the bhop part as Stormzz. So that means Stormzz can beat the map again +1-2s.

04/03/2009 14:53:00

Gargoyle, that's a very good point. It's not WRs what get ruined, it's "just" the maps. cheche, I can't understand your comment... However my eyes managed to pick this up: "since you started this mess." WHAT? k3g did it first... then ndR, then you blame me for starting it? Back to the WR thingy... Like ndR said, the WR gets even better by a sc like kz_42_amazon sc. After the sc is discovered, everybody else can try it also, so it's not unfair in any way. You can still do the same shortcuts, bhops and skips after the shortcut. And aren't maps ruined with [b]all kinds of shortcuts[/b], not just timer shortcuts? Wouldn't you mind the shortcut if it was after 3 jumps, not straight from the timer? I understand your anger, but it's a matter of opinion, there's no 100% right choice. I think since now timer sc thingy is found, new mappers definitely should fix their timers, it's not even hard.

04/03/2009 16:26:00

I don't mind shortcuts whatsoever, but I do not consider hooking/gravity/checkpoints in order to gain a speed boost [b]before[/b] even touching the start-button as short cut - and I will never do. For me it's like saying that using hook is just a shortcut. And sure StormZz could improve the current WR with that kind of lame speedboost, but I am 100% sure that he would never sink to that level and even try. Atleast I wouldn't for sure and don't say it's because I can't. "I think since now timer sc thingy is found, new mappers definitely should fix their timers, it's not even hard." What about this: "I think since now timer sc thingy is found, the XJ staff should definitely make a rule against this, to prevent more WRs from getting ruined." And I apologized if I blamed you for all this, but given your usual perspective on KZ, I find it very strange that you are pro this. But again, you already did it on icevally.

04/03/2009 16:37:00

And to answer your comment Gargoyle, this is a very small map and StormZz did 22.99 so you can calculate yourself that in order to beat this WR, you would have to improve the demo by 0.9 seconds - almost one second. Which is ALOT in such a small map. Now what mjuuh did was doing the exact same run as StormZz, but one thing is for sure - it was [b]not[/b] faster. I have done this map with one more skip than StormZz and mjuuh and wasn't even close to 21. So my point is, I am pissed - and If I was StormZz I would be [b]really[/b] pissed. This is just not fair, since he would [b]never[/b] have gotten even close to 21 without having the speed boost before touching the start-timer.

04/03/2009 17:25:00

Which do you think is better? That mappers make intentional shortcuts in their maps, but XJ forbids doing them, or if mappers don't do intentional shortcuts there and there and XJ wouldn't need to do anything? I can't believe that you're against the hooking/gravity/checkpoints... That takes a shitload of time to always run to timer and even more to jump all the way to the shortcut, that's just waste of time. I'd still do the same run, but it would just take hours longer to get it. I bet Z0ck3rOO7 was fucking pissed when clintmo_longjumper[e] was screwed with the 256 cj sc. Isn't that pretty much the same thing? But hey, that's life.

04/03/2009 18:29:00

All you gotta do cheche is keep stormzz's demo since it was better and just not worry about the current one! That's what I did for brian's xtremeblock :D

04/03/2009 18:39:00

cheche, would it makes you happy if he bhopped to the other site at the river and then did that speedboost thing? "For me it's like saying that using hook is just a shortcut." in my eyes jumping to the timer every round would fix your little prob?

04/03/2009 21:59:00

in my eyes jumping to the [b]stop[/b] timer every round would fix your little prob?

05/03/2009 09:54:00

Guess, sadly, you are right Supa. Flibo don't tell me you would have done the same runs if you had to jump all the way up to the tree first. But, what I wan't is a rule that says you are not allowed to push the start-button with more than 250-269 units speed or whatever. So no jumper to the other side of the river wouldn't fix my "little" problem, since you would stille push the start-button with too high speed. Got it?

05/03/2009 09:54:00

jumping*

05/03/2009 09:56:00

"I bet Z0ck3rOO7 was fucking pissed when clintmo_longjumper[e] was screwed with the 256 cj sc. Isn't that pretty much the same thing? But hey, that's life. " Good point, but hey? Didn't XJ make a rule against that "SC"? YES they did. Though it's a totally different case.

05/03/2009 22:09:00

kunqui and mgD make please kz_mathland in 3:00 :D if it is real WIth kunqui I think it is not so hard :D

06/03/2009 21:16:00

GJ everyone! Especially BupTuk loved your run. Awesome style, real smooth & easy looking (you made it looks easy is what Im trying to say.)

06/03/2009 23:16:00

"Flibo don't tell me you would have done the same runs if you had to jump all the way up to the tree first." Why not? I can do it quite often. It's just a pain in the ass for EVERYONE if they have to jump the every round. This conversation isn't leading anywhere, this is the last comment from me.

07/03/2009 16:09:00

awww gj all :D