Slowmo detected on iiN

By faker mapper·
Hey there,

after iiN submitted his last 2 demos, which caused suspicion amongst some of the users (and us admins as well), we performed a special check on his recent demos done by our coder eDark. The goal was, of course, to see if there is any proof that he is using slowmo.

Here is the result:

After some special analyses eDark was abled to confirm that iiN used slowmo in his latest demos: cg_w00tblock_iiN_0711.rar and kz_xj_brickjump_iiN_0241.rar.

As a consequence he will be banned from the page and submitting demos for 6 months. All of his other records will be removed and replaced with the previous records, since it's extremly hard to detect slowmo and there is no way of telling that they are 100% clean.

/Update: Check the extended news to read iiN's statement.

Best regards,

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29/03/2009 01:23:00

hahaha

29/03/2009 01:23:00

I got money on my mind my mind on the money

29/03/2009 01:24:00

gj edark

29/03/2009 01:25:00

IT'S STILL: IIN YOUR FACE

29/03/2009 01:26:00

IIN YOUR FACE

29/03/2009 01:27:00

oh no i want to see w00tblock 5xx :(

29/03/2009 01:27:00

IIN YOUR FACE PS. There is nothing better to tell you then... I TOLD YOU SO! eDark I LOVE YOU!!:D

29/03/2009 01:27:00

Good Job eDark you are truly the man of detection :)

29/03/2009 01:28:00

I beated a cheated world record ? :D <3 omilo, moxx and thopa for listening to me and helping me out. Once again it's edark who is clearing things up. But there are still suspicious guys out there! eDark check them all please.

29/03/2009 01:30:00

ILL CHECK YOUR FACE CHRIZZO !!! sad to see that iiN used slowmo lolz

29/03/2009 01:31:00

haha

29/03/2009 01:31:00

What did I say? and again stop protecting fucking cheaters if your not 100 % sure he doesn't cheat lul !

29/03/2009 01:32:00

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :( Oh well.

29/03/2009 01:34:00

eDark wins yet again! GJ <3

29/03/2009 01:35:00

....................... PEW PEW

29/03/2009 01:37:00

this is becoming like perm banning someone on a public cs server for using wallhack. nothing special..

29/03/2009 01:37:00

Wheres k3g? Come in and let's dance our epic win duo!

29/03/2009 01:38:00

gj eDark again ;)

29/03/2009 01:39:00

wtf =( ...

29/03/2009 01:39:00

IIN YOUR FACE! IOTYIICS for the win <3

29/03/2009 01:39:00

6 months?? Why not permban?? Once a cheater, always a cheater ffs Really good job eDark!

29/03/2009 01:40:00

Poor kid now has to feel the shame haha. Kinda hard punishment, but yeah, he needs a wipe :)

29/03/2009 01:40:00

whoa, never apologised that iiN has been using cheats... ;[ fuck this game...

29/03/2009 01:42:00

I KNEW IT!

29/03/2009 01:45:00

gj iin, and edark

29/03/2009 01:54:00

[b]Not really suprised, but gj![/b]

29/03/2009 01:55:00

he didnt cheat... asian people have auto slowmo...

29/03/2009 01:56:00

fuck cheatears permanent ban!!!!

29/03/2009 01:56:00

omg ...iin :(

29/03/2009 01:57:00

Finally .

29/03/2009 01:59:00

Lame!

29/03/2009 03:01:00

IIN YOUR FACE! :D Beside that, IOTYIICS > all

29/03/2009 03:04:00

chrizzo beat a cheat demo o.o

29/03/2009 03:04:00

really not surprised, and iiN what was it you said about a week ago? "who cares what you say, kid" or something like that? is it now i should say i told you so? stupid chinese!

29/03/2009 03:07:00

This is always sad to discover a new cheater... Sad new.

29/03/2009 03:09:00

"stupid chinese" lol isnt that a bit prejudice , well anyways good job!

29/03/2009 03:11:00

[size=10]PERMAMENT BAN[/size] He decided to upload a cheated demo, the fact that you're unsure about his old demos doesnt make it less contemptuous. he fucking published his cheated demos figuring out whether it's detectable or not, because if this would stay unchecked he would upload way more fake records. DIE IN YOUR PERMAMENT BAN, FAG.

29/03/2009 03:11:00

iiN has already been busted in China long time ago, so there's anything new :) GJ anyways. P.S. Flibo beated iiN's demo too.

29/03/2009 03:24:00

[b]I have always suspect iiN to be a cheater, and now i finally got some confirmation!. TOLD YOU SO!!!, (to all of you that protected iiN and said that hes not a cheater). He should get a perm ban, because he did in fact upload cheat demos, didnt he!?. Like tranCyfast said, [u]"he fucking published his cheated demos figuring out whether it's detectable or not, because if this would stay unchecked he would upload way more fake records"[/u] ... He dont deserve anything else than a PERM BAN!!![/b]

29/03/2009 03:26:00

*copy / paste tranCyfast* Permanent ban as all other cheaters has gotten! Simple as it is.

29/03/2009 03:27:00

good bye stupid iiN, as chrizZo's words " IN YOUR FACE" gj edark ,u are the man

29/03/2009 03:38:00

seriously, in simen forum he said that he will "beat me back"... I don't think a 6 months ban is enough either :/

29/03/2009 03:47:00

I don't think he will come back in 6 month for cheat Just my opinion, 6 months are not bad.

29/03/2009 03:56:00

:D Ryderc if he coded that program himself, after 6 months he can have a program which might be impossible to detect... Why take the risk? Not like XJ is losing anything if iiN isn't there... If he used a slowmo in one demo and did another one after seeing that his program isn't detectable for eDark he did new ones. He is a KZ CRIMINAL:D PERM BAN!

29/03/2009 04:13:00

pooned

29/03/2009 04:15:00

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzk1MTA2NjA=.html here's iiN's new movie "king of the slowmo" enjoy it guys xD omfg this is a fucking big joke haha

29/03/2009 04:36:00

:P

29/03/2009 04:57:00

too bad, hope this will be the last cheater

29/03/2009 05:06:00

gj eDark, pwn them all so we can have no-cheat community

29/03/2009 05:30:00

[color=#cccccc]GJ eDark[/color] BJ iiN

29/03/2009 05:40:00

Wow eDark :D

29/03/2009 05:44:00

really sad to hear that the ones who once firmly believed iiN using slowmo, you are right still hope he's the last cheater although not so possible

29/03/2009 05:55:00

GJ eDark. Bye Mr.IIN :)

29/03/2009 06:00:00

another cheater huh? iin u deserve 6month ban even longer..

29/03/2009 06:08:00

So sad to know that

29/03/2009 06:19:00

haha nj eDark, faker chrizZo... u really did beat a cheated demo mate lolz :D

29/03/2009 06:44:00

qewi, watch your words, you may insult the wrong people, and although I am not about to reach through my computer and beat you to shit today, one day you may not be so lucky.

29/03/2009 07:35:00

Finally, and well done to those who were abusing PQST about this in comments last week, seriously heros PQST;]#cxgteams: u said iin use slowmo so prove it or please shut ur fuck up oh PQST,did iin ever fuck your mother?why you guys always accuse falsely him? sorry my english bad ... well here you go, who looks like the idiot now? Well done eDark on catching this guy, and PQST for being the only one for standing up last week and saying what we were all thinking. Seriously...

29/03/2009 07:52:00

say out if u've proved it.I only believe the fact and now i believe it

29/03/2009 08:07:00

nice try cheater!

29/03/2009 08:12:00

dereliction finally turning pages over

29/03/2009 08:19:00

IIN YOUR FACE ! good job eDark.

29/03/2009 08:37:00

gj eDark, I hope you bust every single cheater in this community

29/03/2009 08:40:00

IIN YOUR FACE asshole

29/03/2009 08:48:00

gi to find out!! but why no one suspect chrizZo is also use Slowmo,plz check!!

29/03/2009 08:50:00

apeeel LOL

29/03/2009 08:57:00

apeeel u are wrong :D chrizZo >slowmo rofl

29/03/2009 09:00:00

iin say : "first,sorry for this sad thing,and i wanna say sorry to simen. and,for chrizzo,gj,you made it.and for all the people who said i was use slowmotion,you win this time,i use slowmotion for my last 2 demos,why?casue chrizzo,tbh,i hate him,so i wanna beat his record,but i cant made it,so,i dicide try it with slowmotion,but you all,i wrong. eDark pwn again,and i should get ban,ok,ban me 6 months,but i wish the admin dont delete my forum id,just ban it for 6 months,i love it,i dont wanna lost it.but my others demo,i promise,100% clean,i believe no one will believes a cheater now,lol,at last,i wanna say"stay safe,dont try this."

29/03/2009 09:10:00

eDark is noob

29/03/2009 09:15:00

IIN YOUR FACE o_O BAD !! GJ eDark (:

29/03/2009 09:23:00

hehe! well done eDark :) and IIN YOUR FACE

29/03/2009 09:25:00

iiN man ur my idol :D

29/03/2009 09:26:00

S.iiN 13:56:13 "first,sorry for this sad thing,and i wanna say sorry to simen. and,for chrizzo,gj,you made it.and for all the people who said i was use slowmotion,you win this time,i use slowmotion for my last 2 demos,why?casue chrizzo,tbh,i hate him,so i wanna beat his record,but i cant made it,so,i dicide try it with slowmotion,but you all,i wrong. eDark pwn again,and i should get ban,ok,ban me 6 months,but i wish the admin dont delete my forum id,just ban it for 6 months,i love it,i dont wanna lost it.but my others demo,i promise,100% clean,i believe no one will believes a cheater now,lol,at last,i wanna say"stay safe,dont try this."

29/03/2009 09:33:00

[b]edark rulez![/b]

29/03/2009 09:33:00

sbzvln just posted a comment here , do a wr also pls, thx !

29/03/2009 09:37:00

IIN YOUR FACE [b]IOTYIICS[/b] > Cheaters.

29/03/2009 09:37:00

IIN =/ sad news. I think 6 month is enough to make someone understand that he took a wrong bus going nowhere. We all like this game, 'cause still interested in how far human hands and brains can go. Cheating is not far for sure. eDark does freaking fantastic work. We all highly appreciate it and he knows it. ^_^ crizZo u r damn NeoBunny! <3 p.s. ppl plz be polite. using cheats is a crime against fair players. Being impolite is a crime against community. Stay cool.

29/03/2009 09:47:00

[blockquote]ppl plz be polite. using cheats is a crime against fair players. Being impolite is a crime against community. Stay cool.[/blockquote] WORD!

29/03/2009 09:47:00

woooooord eusunt! :D I'm sure that iiN will update his slowmo in this 6months then come back.. [size=30][b]iiN YOUR FACE[/b][/size]

29/03/2009 09:58:00

cheater.

29/03/2009 09:58:00

Nubby LOL

29/03/2009 10:27:00

w0w didn't think that he cheats... ok so know we have to suspect everybody... that's pretty sad.

29/03/2009 11:01:00

I lulz at. n00b. IIN YOUR FACE!

29/03/2009 11:05:00

SLAYER^ | 03/22 - 13:27: n1 rules exept the rules with the hook/teleporters :/ btw don't worry about PQST, he is just a big fag. HI!

29/03/2009 11:14:00

Im pretty sure that there is more than one more cheater in wr demos

29/03/2009 11:16:00

knew it gj edark

29/03/2009 11:22:00

gj eDark.

29/03/2009 11:23:00

http://www.speedyshare.com/709578444.html I wonder how old is that demo? It was one of the demos made me think he may use slowmo'. sorry for dp

29/03/2009 11:48:00

[quote]What did I say? and again stop protecting fucking cheaters if your not 100 % sure he doesn't cheat lul ![/quote] Stop saying someone cheats before you're 100% sure of it... Many people said that FoF uses slowmo, well did he? Even though iiN did cheat, you couldn't know it last week when many people said he cheats. That would have been really insulting if he HADN'T cheated. Well, he did, but you couldn't say it for sure last week + you didn't have any proof. I'm not defending iiN, but other people you guys think are cheating.

29/03/2009 11:52:00

gj eDark. and: [size=30]iiN your face![/size]

29/03/2009 12:06:00

[size=20]FINALLY!!! eDark did it![/size]

29/03/2009 12:09:00

o_0

*LokkiZZLE
29/03/2009 12:25:00

it was quite obvious since a long time -_- [size=14][color=#000000]GJ eDark[/color][/size] /!\

29/03/2009 12:33:00

so .. IOTYIICS is the shit ... iiN fuck that dude, why can`t you just play fo real and pwn chrizzo .. just GEEK this shit game .. but now it`s just blind words .. stay on bench 6 months and then come pwn him w/o slowmo.. that if you wanna prove your skills .. now HF btw. eDark .. that`s what I`m talking about !

29/03/2009 12:41:00

Oh my God:O wth?:(

29/03/2009 12:44:00

check w1zz, its hard for me to realize that this guy beats a demo

29/03/2009 12:57:00

nice. gj eDark

29/03/2009 13:39:00

Sad to know that

29/03/2009 13:41:00

raped. ofc he was slowmowing. we were saying that all the time.

29/03/2009 13:42:00

gj edark HAHAHHA

29/03/2009 13:43:00

why would you cheat at kz......rofl

29/03/2009 13:58:00

gj eDark .. [b]IIN YOUR FACE [/b][size=36][/size]

29/03/2009 14:00:00

hahahhahahaha <3 97club xiening kai xin . lol

29/03/2009 14:18:00

you guys need to find a better slowmo, I mean I'm still here, aren't I? :D

29/03/2009 14:19:00

lol ) gj eDark

29/03/2009 14:20:00

Get a life, and get a new hobby. How poor this kreedz stuff became.Too much maniacs and psychopatic kids. Doing everything to get the "virtual reputation". Grow up, than play.

29/03/2009 14:38:00

Flibo.... eDark wouldn't have checked him if we wouldn't have shouted in here, that he uses slowmo. And thats the damn point. iiN got busted, because many people dared to say that he is suspicious? So why should we stop saying so...? Seriously, you just saw how effective this is. And to iiN's post, please anyone deliver him my words now: "iiN I helped you out back in the days with the Longjump plugin? Do you know that, you messaged me via email and I took my time to help you etc. You were just pissed, because I beated 007's demos... And guy seriously, all your demos have the same style, what are you talking about that you only used your slowmo in two demos? The true point is that we are not blind and dumb, so we can see your filthy lie in your words. You announced in the simen forum, that you will strike back and beat me again on w00tblock. And now you are saying sorry? You took my time to geek your slowmo demo and yes, it wasn't that easy to get it. First of all I didn't want to beat it, but brendo333 forced me to. Now you are the "i'm so sorry" lady in here, but in realitiy you would have made much more demos with your stupid slowmo hack when eDark wouldn't have busted you. That you are daring to say that your other demos are clean is pissing me off. Go out off this community, I don't want to see you here again in 6 months seriously. You cheated back in the days with a bhop hack and now you cheated again with slowmo. And in 6 months you will try... yea what? You lied to the whole simen community for more than a year now and to all people on xj, please stop with this game in the next 6 months."

29/03/2009 14:40:00

Oh well.. eDark ^^ :)

29/03/2009 14:43:00

+ It doesn't even make sense what he is writing. He's saying he hates me and thats why he used slowmo. But he recorded kz_xj_brickjump and I have nothing to do with this... Admin he is lying all the fucking time. In 6 months he will come back and lie again.

29/03/2009 14:43:00

LOL zhady maddesttttttt ahah

29/03/2009 14:44:00

Now let's get the last [b]obvious[/b] one as well.. If possible : /

Njuby^_x
29/03/2009 14:46:00

sad iiN, but i understand you..

29/03/2009 14:50:00

haha, i noticed that people got upset by my comment. i didnt mean it in a racist way or anything, i cant even see why youre taking it so hard. iin is a stupid chinese, where he come from doesnt matter though i just felt like writing it.

29/03/2009 14:53:00

LMAO ^^

29/03/2009 14:57:00

MoNk used slowmo for a random LJ = perm ban iiN used slowmo for KZ Map recs = 6 months why?

29/03/2009 15:06:00

loveinabottle : "check w1zz, its hard for me to realize that this guy beats a demo" .. Sure, check my demos. Poof if you got pissed in the past it doesn`t mean I don`t have the proper "skill" to do a wr.

29/03/2009 15:07:00

+1 eusunt, ppl get perm ban for insulting and so, but why doesn't iin get perm ban as the other slowmoers? He even made 2 demos, i think that's enough for permanent ban. I have nothing against iiN, but he deserves that, as any other slowmoer.

29/03/2009 15:07:00

I gotta agree with eusunt , thats fucked up . cheating for demo's is way worse imo

29/03/2009 15:13:00

cheche whos that?

29/03/2009 15:19:00

I can think of one cheche refers to... :) But I doubt he used it.

29/03/2009 15:38:00

When my heel chrizzo confabulation, this thing, , he has no malice to the Chinese player and he only aims at iin to cheat this thing Hope the everyone's ability to is objective to treat this thing

29/03/2009 15:45:00

FoF nilsen1 ?.. And yes of course 7D :)

29/03/2009 15:46:00

ugly chino u.u :/

29/03/2009 15:49:00

And of course iiN slowmoed in all of his demos.. His two recent demos werent even that obvious compared to his fist demos here at XJ - they get better at hiding it, thought it's still easy to see. His two latest demos didn'r raise any more suspecion - the fact that iiN and FoF have been using slowmo is old news now.

29/03/2009 15:58:00

take it ez chrizZo , u> slowmo ,why so serious :D but it's amzing u'v helped him with longjump pluign he never talked about it before , shame on u chrizZo ,the wrong peson for u lol

29/03/2009 16:07:00

How about to fuck off cheche? Just face the fact Fact is just that good and he's not using slowmo. Either prove it or shut teh fuck up. [size=1][color=#999999]And also, thanks for the warning.[/color][/size]

29/03/2009 16:11:00

cheche you are fucking n00b if you can't face the fact that FoF is better than u

shNz
29/03/2009 16:14:00

I knew it.. thats really sad

29/03/2009 16:20:00

How about facing the reality eusunt #cC? lol opapa

29/03/2009 16:22:00

k3G,please remember you are chinese! OK? Even though I do not like him。But I do not like you to do a chinese irony!

29/03/2009 16:26:00

lol cheche, u r such an idiot :D:D:D

29/03/2009 16:30:00

And you're naive.

29/03/2009 16:31:00

+1337 DucK cheche is it so funny to read the true?

29/03/2009 16:33:00

we hate cheaters , i'm chinese ,that's why i hate him so much,he made foreigners look down upon us chinese ,if u know nothing about him ,shut up :( last time to talk with u byebye

29/03/2009 16:34:00

FoF is too kind to cheat!

29/03/2009 16:43:00

[color=#ffff00]lul.wuT[/color]

29/03/2009 16:44:00

[b]eDark please make a statement about FoF if he cheats or not (I believe not) to get rid off that FoFaccusing stuff because it really annoys me and probably not only me![/b]

29/03/2009 16:49:00

Ideal Idea, Raptor!

29/03/2009 16:49:00

cheche I am, that's why I'm saying that he's not cheating. Either get A/SOME EVIDENCE/S or SHUT UP.

29/03/2009 17:01:00

+1 eusunt

29/03/2009 17:05:00

Yea you guys should check FoFs demos! Just to stop the silly discussion!

29/03/2009 17:06:00

i can pwn chrizzo without slowmo CHEER!! http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1592/iinl.gif

29/03/2009 17:22:00

Kunqui you killed me :D:D:DDD

29/03/2009 17:33:00

IIN IS UBAHHH GEILLL

29/03/2009 17:35:00

I [color=#ff0000]<3[/color] iiN, dirrRrty boyy!

29/03/2009 17:43:00

haha kunqui

29/03/2009 17:45:00

LOLOWNED Does he wanna use more commas in his statement? God job guys

29/03/2009 17:54:00

HAHAHA kunqui GJ! It's real?

29/03/2009 18:03:00

u all stupid freak who told that iin always use cheats. Read the rest - he used used slowmo (only for stupid cows) in LAST 2 demos. But another demos was clear.

29/03/2009 18:06:00

And y dont agry with admin what he removed he`s all demos on xj. Ban him - no question. But remove clear demo... gj :\

29/03/2009 18:10:00

Sad :(

29/03/2009 18:13:00

LOL i have no opinion on FoF, but umm cheche is doing what PQST did last time when he was abused, and now your doing exactly the same thing to cheche? rofl are u kidding me? iiN was caught, PQST was right and now SLAYER etc just look dumb, so before u post "your an idiot cheche u dont know anything" think about what just happened. As i said, i dont have an opinion on weather or not FoF cheats but just thought id try to explain how silly shooting cheche down is, cause it will be ROFL as if cheche and all the others that wont SAY IT are right.

29/03/2009 18:19:00

eusunt@"cheche I am, that's why I'm saying that he's not cheating. Either get A/SOME EVIDENCE/S or SHUT UP. " It's funny eusunt, people said the exact same thing when we tried to inform you guys that iiN was cheating. And there is no way I can prove anything related to computer, I am a noob when it comes to technical stuff. But I wouldn't say it if I wasn't 100% sure. I watch approximatly 90% of all demos relased, that includes national communities - and I can't say I can spot every slowmo-demo... But I can for damn sure see the obvious ones - (iiN and FoF) And even when eDark and XJ said they could detect ALL slowmotion-demos (yet no iiN/FoF demos were detected), I still didn't change my mind about iiN and FoF - since my eyes just doesn't lie. I can see it, it's as simple as that. And I'm not the only one - I'm just the only one speaking up all the time, but it's fine, I don't care kids flaming me on an online community like this. I don't mind tbh.

29/03/2009 18:23:00

bye

29/03/2009 18:28:00

eusunt@"cheche ii am, that's why ii'm saying that he's not cheatiiNg. Eiither get A/SOME EViiDENCE/S or SHUT UP. " iit's funny eusunt, people saiid the exact same thiing when we triied to inform you guys that iiN was cheatiiNg. And there iis no way ii can prove anythiiNg related to computer, ii am a noob when iit comes to techNiical stuff. But ii wouldn't say iit iif ii wasn't 100% sure. ii watch approxiimatly 90% of all demos relased, that iiNcludes natiional communiitiies - and ii can't say ii can spot every slowmo-demo... But ii can for damn sure see the obviious ones - (iiN and FoF) And even when iiDark and XJ saiid they could detect ALL slowmotiion-demos (yet no iiN/FoF demos were detected), ii stiill diidn't change my miiNd about iiN and FoF - siince my eyes just doesn't liie. ii can see iit, iit's as siimple as that. And ii'm not the only one - ii'm just the only one speakiiNg up all the tiime, but iit's fiiNe, ii don't care kiids flamiiNg me on an onliiNe communiitii liike thiis. ii don't miiNd tbh.

29/03/2009 18:51:00

cheche I've never said iiN is not cheating. I might have said I don't see how is he cheating, but NEVER EVER said he is not.

29/03/2009 18:53:00

iizii

29/03/2009 19:01:00

pfff. great that he got caught.

29/03/2009 19:51:00

[quote]Flibo.... eDark wouldn't have checked him if we wouldn't have shouted in here, that he uses slowmo. And thats the damn point. iiN got busted, because many people dared to say that he is suspicious? So why should we stop saying so...? Seriously, you just saw how effective this is.[/quote] It might be "effective", but remember the FoF case... Many people flamed him for "cheating" and apparently he's clean. That's really insulting and annoying for the guy blamed for cheating. Still remember Tess and $iw? I can't remember anyone saying that they cheated... So I dare to question "your" abilities to detect slowmo. As faker once said, "no demo, no proof", if you have a little imagination, you might be able to apply that rule to this case.

29/03/2009 20:18:00

I love it when people say I cheat... just goes to show how good I am :D

29/03/2009 20:23:00

good bye and go come back :) sall jaune <<< for past

29/03/2009 20:25:00

Supa u cheat

29/03/2009 20:27:00

n1

29/03/2009 20:31:00

I think oTcheto use sv_gravity 200 for his lj recs

29/03/2009 20:35:00

[size=18] [b]CHANGE THE SONG FFS![/b] [/size] You people still are commenting stuff like "proof or stfu" crap. It's allright to say what you think about a person or his skills, but you shouldnt nail him on the floor. Cheche did absolutely nothing wrong, chrizZo did somewhat the same and result -> IIN YOUR FACE! Flibo you cannot say "Many people flamed him for "cheating" and apparently he's clean." it's just unlogical, when Siw and Tess got busted people cried about iiN being a hax also, people then commented the same stuff you did just now. Him being clean is far from the end of the investigation. PS. There was suspicion about Tess and $iw as a matter of fact, just more beneath the surface. @ cheche feel for you, but you get shot down asap you state something what is mainly negative especially this FoF case. But in this slowmo matter, there is nothing better to say then "I TOLD YOU SO":D if FoF is using hax he will get busted and then you can just laugh!:D

29/03/2009 20:37:00

StormZz you bhop hax :D

29/03/2009 20:40:00

GJ,

29/03/2009 20:58:00

Stormzz just STORMINATES just like his avatar shows ^^. That's so rofl!!!

29/03/2009 21:05:00

looks like everything around about cheating these days. that's sad.

29/03/2009 21:16:00

Permanent ban should be the sentence imo for disrespecting the whole community. I don't understand how someone can be proud of sending a demo for which he knows he has been using a cheat. It is a better achievement to train harder and harder to get the world record and then feel that you managed to do it without any illegal help. I guess that becoming famous can make someone act like that. Sad ...

29/03/2009 21:22:00

[size=36]IIN YOUR FACE [/size]

29/03/2009 21:39:00

Flibo it's obvious, cheche is danish Tess and $iw were danish. [i]Nationalism[/i] :) As to all the FoF arguments, I stant with what I said before: Innocent until proven guilty. The rest can burn in hell.

29/03/2009 21:50:00

cg_w00tblock_iiN_0711.rar and kz_xj_brickjump_iiN_0241.rar. death link

29/03/2009 21:54:00

nice job edark!!!

29/03/2009 22:05:00

ALL ASSLICKERS YOUR FACES !

29/03/2009 23:40:00

I couldn't stop laughing while reading the comments in this newspost. It amuses me that people get so fired up on each other because of some random dude who cheated. I really want to say 'grow up', but then I'll just be trowing gasoline on the fire so I won't. Anyhow.. Nice to see that the cheaters are being handled with and that the engineers of this community continues their work against them.

30/03/2009 00:17:00

[quote]Flibo.... eDark wouldn't have checked him if we wouldn't have shouted in here, that he uses slowmo. And thats the damn point. iiN got busted, because many people dared to say that he is suspicious? So why should we stop saying so...? Seriously, you just saw how effective this is. [/quote] So, do you think it is justified to accuse someone in public without one single bit of proof, just because it seems effective? Why do you think it's against the law what you are doing? Not because they have fun in making more laws. You are harming someone's reputation and image. Even when you accuse 10 people and afterwards 7 people are guilty, you still don't have the right to accuse those 3 innocent people in public and the fact that you have caught 7 people doesn't justify it. Don't get me wrong. I hate cheaters just as much as you do. But there are more effective ways to catch someone rather than just shouting out loud (false) accusations in public. To me, it seems like a pretty inefficient way actually. What do you want to achieve with this? If you think someone is cheating then you have to go to the authorized authorities who can actually do something about it. In this case, probably an admin? If you have to communicate in a way like you do, then there is something wrong with the communication in this community, I guess? And to finish it with your own words: [i]and thats the damn point[/i].

30/03/2009 01:54:00

blablabla i i think someone is cheating.. then i tell him to fuck off. you sound like someone who still likes to lick his mothers tits... werent in school here m8. Sure we should respect each other.. but sometimes its just to obvious... oh.. and when did chrizzo ever told anyone a cheater who doesnt got busted sometimes later ? the admins just dont have as many eyes as the whole community.. and infact the community is just like a big fucking anticheat team. But if the AC team stops responding... then nobody will get busted. And to finish it with your own words: and thats the damn point.

30/03/2009 02:31:00

Gargoyle, lagsterr, others.. So you say I can accusse, for example, Chrizzo of using slowmo. If i'm right in the end - hurray (yeah, Gargoyle, i could laugh then), if not - i did nothing wrong. Kool. You spend to much time in the internet. In reality you would get a face correction for such things.

30/03/2009 06:04:00

hi chrizzo . sup

30/03/2009 09:58:00

Pathetic SpiNe

30/03/2009 12:11:00

links fixed

30/03/2009 15:52:00

kexas grow up "butch", and trust me "I TOLD YOU SO" isn't worthy of a "face correction" due to the fact I DID TELL YOU. And by the way, people who actually accuse every recorder are kids therefore they shouldn't be even considered being a trustworthy source. To be honest you are the one who needs face correction. Sad, sad little man.

30/03/2009 17:17:00

J!nX I'll watch post an answer of the last insilio weekly. "Lagster: So it would be safe to say that if iiN had not been so obvious in his demos, we might not of caught him? Would you urge the community to stand up and speak out if they do suspect someone is cheating so we can catch more of them? chrizZo: Thats the current thing we have to make clear in the community. There are two sides at the moment. The first side is saying something like :"Don't blame anyone to cheat without having a proof". The other side is saying that this is needed to discover cheaters. I'm on the second side here. The only reason why iiN got caught is because me and a lot of other people spoke out what they think. If this will end up in a warning in the future, we will probably end up in a cheat community. Thats my viewing of the things at the moment. Of course it isn't that great if you are suspected to be a slowmotion cheater, if you aren't. But the point is that it's sooooo easy to proof that you are not. Just go on a server and let people spectate, nothing is easier than that seriously. So I would kinda call it risk management what we should do here." You are saying I should go to an authorized person and talk with him. Hm, well I did. I talked to omilo and thopa and BOTH agreed that iiN uses slowmo. But what can they do? Fps death isn't detecting it. So it was kinda a helpless situation. Only after the special check of eDark the slowmo was found. This could have been in three months? Maybe iiN would have done 20 of my records till then? What do you think? It's the pressure we were building up to make the procedure going faster. When I'm watching a demo and it has a suspicous style I contact many people afterwarsds, asking them what they think. If they have never seen this guy on public server or anywhere else and he hasn't got one single spectator in his world record demos, he's suspicious for me. If you this guy isn't using slowmo, he can prove me that I'm wrong with letting me spectate. If not, he's suspicious to me. Thats my position J!nX... and you didn't get smashed by a slowmo hacker. If you would have spended much time to record a world record and than someone like iiN is coming, where it's kinda obvious that he cheats, you wouldn't be quiet as well, believe me. And now please tell me what kind of "effective ways to catch cheaters" you are talking about? Our archievement was to let iiN now that he will get busted in time and that people realise his hacks. And to all this FoF blabla in here, I personally don't think anymore that FoF used a slowmo, because he's a nice person. But eDark hasn't checked him and I couldn't spectate him, because he stopped playing. People are taking me here as an example for beeing suspicious. Come and spectate me, everyone. It's simple: I could say :"No, I don't have to proof anything in here. You are calling me a cheater without a proof, thats rediciolous." Or I could go to my lan and let you spectate? Problem solved. Everyone is happy. J!nX you and your moral reason is of course logical, but it's just needless if you ask me. If someone doesn't want that people are spectating him, even if everyone is saying that he cheats and his "name" is kinda ruined because of that, he's really dumb in my eyes. Sorry to say it that way, but it's the truth :p

30/03/2009 17:35:00

I agree with chrizZo here, if there wasn't any suspicion about iiN using hacks he would probably still be in this community and submit slowmoed demos. I'd like to comment on the "more effective ways" J!nX brought up. Perhaps there is better ways, maybe the way to improve fps death, but: I really do admire the work eDark has done and still does. But I think pointing out some obvious facts (in this case iiN) would help speed up the process. All we are doing is trying to help XJ catch the criminals. Indeed innocent until proven guilty but there is always room for suspicion as long as it is in the comfort zone (not blaming everyone).

30/03/2009 17:47:00

Hey, big man. Why would you defend and agree with, as you called them, kids (cheche)? "I told you so" isn't, but telling so IS. Imagine how a person should feel being called gay (and he isn't), just because he's wearing blue shirt. I guess you would shake his hand, because you are so grown up. And what about me? I neither cheated, nor accussed anyone of it.

30/03/2009 18:14:00

[quote]The only reason why iiN got caught is because me and a lot of other people spoke out what they think.[/quote] Not exactly true :P I was checking some of the recent demos, including iiN's w00tblock demo, and it blow my head.... In 7 minutes climbtime 100% perfect doubleducks? Just unrealistic... And the whole demo felt weird, just as he had more time to plan his next move/strafe... After reading the newscomments I felt confirmed by some of the comments, so I think they have a positive aspect as well... So after eDark connected to IRC the same day I opend the PM window and asked him to check the demo asap ^^ But well, the cheating thing is a problem of the whole CS community... Suspecting people is okay, as long as it doesn't get down to insulting imo.

30/03/2009 19:46:00

faker, the thing about 100% double-ducks is a good point - not that it proves anything. FoF always have 100% double-ducks as well.. That's just one thing out of many, if you got suspecious by watching iiN - you will get suspecious by watching FoF as well.. @kexas, I don't really get you - why would I call someone gay if he wasn't gay? Why would I call anyone gay in the first place? I don't follow you. FoF have been using slowmo-hack in all of his demos released national/xj - I wouldn't say it if I wasn't 100% sure. Same with iiN, I was 100% sure. I get all the politically correctness about accusing without proof - but you guys gotta understand that he HAS been cheating and that he has charmed all of you with his friendly personality. Hopefully someone will be able to detect it - I've no idea how that stuff works :)

30/03/2009 22:03:00

So, you want to say that FoF sets up as a friendly guy, because he's trying to hide that he's cheating? :D

30/03/2009 23:19:00

no doubt...

30/03/2009 23:52:00

Not necessarily no.

31/03/2009 01:54:00

Why you say 100% if you got no proof? 100% ducks does not make it 100% cheat. And why would he cheat? To record two WRs and 10 national community demos?

31/03/2009 11:35:00

kexas@"Why you say 100% if you got no proof? 100% ducks does not make it 100% cheat. And why would he cheat? To record two WRs and 10 national community demos?" Here's what I said; "the thing about 100% double-ducks is a good point - not that it proves anything." Read my post before you comment.. And why would he cheat? No idea, ask him - I just know he is.

31/03/2009 12:20:00

So what makes him a cheater then? Not so long ago there was an article. Innocent man was imprisoned for 27 years, because the judge just knew he was guilty. Just like you...

31/03/2009 14:30:00

- I can see it in his movement - robotic strafes - suddenly turns - perfect doubleducks - failed ez bhops in his first demos, cus he didn't have the timing for his slowmo - to fast mousemovement in one of his first slowmo-demos, because he didn't have the experience. When you turn mouse fast in slowmo - it comes up as in an unrealistic speed in the real time demos. (Check his radiobase demo @ national community) - too fast chats in his first demos - he never touches the mouse when running straight - to avoid people from suspecting his mouse-movement - just as iiN always did. - When you duck to the edge of a block to gain more space for your prestrafe, it obviously takes some time because you need to be careful - FoF did in no time whatsoever in his xtremeblock, obvious slowmo. And really I could go on and on, not to mention my chat with him on IRC, where he denied to prove himself because we were retards? And when that argument didn't stick - he said he couldn't, because he had stopped with KZ cus of the accusations and now he couldn't even do 245lj - right?,.. And the fact that he escaped to KZmod, because he knew that the minute he released another demo - he would have to prove himself. I shouldn't even mention all this once more - but this is just for you kexas since you obviously missed the previous debates. A small thing you can do - since you don't have the eye for demos in general - is to watch his HJ demo ,and then watch the other HJ high in the record list. You will instantly see the difference in his rough strafe-turns. GL , and my lunch is over :)

31/03/2009 15:05:00

Nice investigation, but come on.. That was not my point. I'm not happy about the "100%" attitude. It's wrong to shout "it's a time question before they find out" before the end of investigation.

31/03/2009 17:05:00

He used to get teased, couldnt ever get the times. He didn't stress, he just worried bout' gettin' his. So the point is think about the long run; you may not fit in now, but adwg your time will come.

31/03/2009 17:18:00

Was that your rap lyrics zhady?

01/04/2009 13:46:00

what is ' iin your face"?

02/04/2009 08:10:00

I'm just laughing my ass off about FoF :D

02/04/2009 18:09:00

he should get permban like siw and tess did, coz iiN has been using slowmo all along

06/04/2009 21:15:00

yea zylEE +1 its stupid 6 months evrybody knows that all iiN demos are slowmo they are the same style like this 2 demos all cheaters have to be permenent banned 6 months are not enought :(

08/04/2009 08:04:00

I think he used slowmo also in kzno_caseblock_v2 and maybe in other his demos.

22/08/2010 06:04:00

cao ni ma > chrizZo < wahaha

08/07/2013 06:12:00

LyNn? :ok: