A well-meant reminder.

By faker mapper·
Dear users,

as you probably have noticed the XJ website was down for "maintenance" during the last days. Actually we didn't plan to write a newspost about this, to avoid giving the guy/the people behind this any attention at all, but unfortunately the circumstances made this necessary.

What happened?

So why was the page down? Well, it wasn't exactly for maintenance... actually XJ was attacked by a "hacker" again. Someone illegally gained access to brendo's account, abused brendo's forum permissions to mess around with the forums and make all of the secret admin/development forums visible to the public.

We don't know who did it yet, since this guy used a proxy to hide his real IP when he did all that stuff, but we're still investigating the case. The only logical assumption is, that it was one of the insilio or Cosy Climbing admins since brendo used his XJ password on both sites as well and only these admins could find out his password with a little trick and access to the site's database or ftp...

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The aftermath

As you might imagine a lot of information and valuable stuff got leaked, means XJ took real damage by these actions. It's easy to imagine that everyone involved, means admins or other guys helping out with coding etc, got really pissed and offended by this attempt to steal their work and publishing it without their permission. They even lost the motivation and fun in it and are not sure if they will continue their work.

Don't forget: It's their work, therefore THEY decide whether and when they want to publish/release it or not - and NOT you.

Therefore we'd like to ask all downloaders to keep the files for yourself and don't send them to your friends.

Here is a short statement by SchlumPF, who coded big parts of the new XJ plugin:

Dear downloaders, I'm begging you: Do _not_ release any parts of the code. Numb and I put months of work into the plugins and we really don't want to become the codes public since we planned to give them only to XJ. Please contact me to talk about this if you downloaded anything, you may even use parts of the plugins as long as you don't share them.

Furthermore we'd like to ask everyone who might have information about this event (or the people behind it) to help us investigating this case.

Here are some lines for the "hacker" as well: Whoever you are and and whatever your intentions were ... if you talk to us about who you are and why you did it you might get away with a warning. So if there were any "positive motives" behind the negative action at all, this is YOUR TIME to be a man and talk about CHANGES and tell everyone what you think about XJ and why you did it.

Remember: Even if you don't agree with all the admin's decision or all the people who "lead" this community, XJ is still the "heart" of the Kreedz community and actions like this might KILL the site because the people behind it feel offended and might not want to go on. I'm not going to mince matters: Shut the fuck up or the site will be closed permanently. This was the 3rd attempt to "hack" XJ - and believe me, we got better things to do in our spare time than fixing the damages made by "hackers".

P.S: Real hackers only show that they can get in a system (which is no big effort since we are using e107 and there are even public exploits available) and don't do any damage to the system at all... So this is no hacking, this is just immature kiddie cracker shit without honor or respect... So don't be too proud.

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31/03/2009 02:18:00

haha,so

31/03/2009 02:27:00

i knew it :(

31/03/2009 02:35:00

nicely written and also a good apologize for the downtime.

31/03/2009 02:50:00

Nice , xj got owned.. ^_^

31/03/2009 02:51:00

It's a bad decision to make the new plugin's XJ only. But it's a decision that XJ and it's coders are allowed to make. And people should respect that.

31/03/2009 02:58:00

Insilio has nothing to do with this. eMTi is the gfx guy in that project... makes no sense. And no, I didn't hack XJ...

31/03/2009 03:13:00

I'm glad you posted it, i think everyone from xj itself should know what happened and i think its a good thing that you posted this.. people are so fucking dumb to do that kinda shit.. i kinda hope the person admits it or we catch them, but i don't think that's gonna happen :/

31/03/2009 03:42:00

Hackers are always from europe or asia :D

31/03/2009 03:43:00

iNN??? haha he's a coder!

31/03/2009 03:46:00

Once again for the records: To our dear "hacker: If you admit it and talk to us about who you are and why you did it (and help us to reduce the damage) you will get away with a warning!

31/03/2009 04:00:00

I actually laughed at the part about it not being hard to hack e107, that's so true. And you hit the nail on the head about this not being a hack attack but rather just some scriptkiddy attack. You would get your ass beat the fuck down at any real hacker convention such as Toorcon or Daycon if you bragged about this kind of bullshit.

31/03/2009 04:02:00

a real hacker would turn this into a porn site

31/03/2009 04:04:00

alex!

31/03/2009 04:18:00

lmao @ Bibo's friend

31/03/2009 04:19:00

Wait, so the guy who hacked XJ gets to talk about changes and what he thinks about it? And people will listen? Man, I could have saved so much time last week if only I knew.

31/03/2009 06:59:00

lul

31/03/2009 07:53:00

Let's burn him! :)

31/03/2009 07:56:00

Ah and btw, it would be cool if this guy if from germany, you could file a justice claim and I'm sure nobody would ever try again to hack the website :D I don't know about German laws but we can do that in France =)

31/03/2009 08:13:00

bad hacker ^^

31/03/2009 08:45:00

Why don't you put all these files to another unknown ftp ? :)

31/03/2009 08:56:00

NDR,HELLO...

31/03/2009 08:59:00

dLx is right, u always need to have rescue ftp with the copy of all files. And btw, I am 99,999999% sure that insilio has nothing about it.

31/03/2009 09:06:00

What? What kind of files got these codes?

31/03/2009 09:11:00

dLx, opapa; Care to elaborate, I dont really understand what you guys mean, what files?

31/03/2009 09:34:00

Problem is not in ftp. He just opened (made public) all private forums with download links and passwords of private files... That includes: private plugins/submitted maps/tools and probably even more files of what I don't even know. Believe me - I was amazing how fast my unfinished mpbhops went on public... Couldn't believe it until one contact sended me the last version (what was even a secret to other members of the team... I'm trying to say that people had even more time than just to view the forum downloading files - they totally analyzed every word and every download link, thanks to what found files what aren't even released in the private section yet). Also trust me - feeling isn't good when you work on something much months to find out that it was leaked right from beneath your nose when you are about to fixt the bug what you think is last... --- And I really want to underline one quite from the news what really means much to me. [blockquote] Therefore we'd like to ask all downloaders to keep the files for yourself and [u][b]don't[/b] send them to your friends[/u]. [/blockquote]

31/03/2009 09:43:00

Damn offender!

31/03/2009 09:53:00

e107 sux.

31/03/2009 10:28:00

Storing "valuable" information & files on forums, what were you thinking?

31/03/2009 10:46:00

sad things happening :/

31/03/2009 10:56:00

im 13,37% sure it was tjubby, but i will continue my investigation

31/03/2009 11:38:00

[color=#ff66cc]i only want say "guan wo p shi"[/color]

31/03/2009 12:09:00

it was me,sorry O_O

31/03/2009 12:12:00

[b]lol[/b]?

31/03/2009 12:22:00

Like I said, I think it's not by a Cosy-Climbing member, and if it is proven, the hacker is in our team, I'd take the punishment, of the name of the team and he'll get kicked.

31/03/2009 12:27:00

its-iiN-fosho...=\

31/03/2009 12:39:00

SuPa I thought it was iiN also :DDDD

31/03/2009 12:50:00

too bad :(

31/03/2009 13:06:00

[size=36]iiN my opinion, it's iiN[/size]

31/03/2009 13:08:00

wow. what is even the point in hacking? and there are still ways to get the ip if he used a proxy... just depends on which proxy he used >.>

31/03/2009 13:09:00

It was iiN !

31/03/2009 13:59:00

So you start off this news by insinuating that another KZ community is out to destroy XJ? You think that throwing some bad publicity to other communities helps anyone? Even after having thought about how insecure your CMS is you still decide to do it? What do you think a different community would gain from destroying XJ? XJ is the main hub, it's the place everybody uses and branches out to form these different communities from. Just because you get hacked is no reason at all to become aggressive towards communities who have nothing against XJ. Maybe if your work is so valuable and it's so important that nobody else in the world can use your scripts then you shouldn't be posting them on a terribly secured board. Seeing this makes me think that the people writing these scripts would prefer to keep them completely in house and ensure that the community can't grow in the way it would by distributing code across servers. Are you really afraid somebody might use your script? Considering when plugins get released either everybody knows who they are written by or it has their name displayed during usage, and that the majority of people respect the authors for their work which makes the small group of people who exploit their right to usage completely meaningless. Perhaps XJ should consider a more community constructive approach to their coding and set the standard for other communities, rather than being aggressive towards other communities without thought. Considering every major php CMS will use md5 hashing even if you were looking at the hash of his password you would have no way of retrieving it in plaintext unless it was an incredibly weak password and you couldn't use the hash to access different websites due to it being rehashed to compare it to the db and then not matching up. Do you think it's the community who needs threatening that XJ will be shut down if it continues? Have you not thought that if someone was attacking XJ that releasing a statement that says it will shut down if it continues is the worst thing you could say, if someone wanted that to happen and you haven't done anything about the security situation then you have given them exactly what they wanted. If you were so careless and selfish that you ended up closing the site then there would be plenty of people willing to start communities that were either much more open. or much more secure. Real hackers have a motive for hacking and I expect most would love to see the rage they cause displayed on the main page.

31/03/2009 14:05:00

I think it's pretty rude to just place the blame upon Cosy Climbing or Insilio, without any proof at all... everyone knows e107 sucks and its ezy to hack, but k...

31/03/2009 14:09:00

let XJ admins figure it out .... they will do the investigation ... but still we will see and the person responsebul for it should be punished

31/03/2009 14:14:00

No we wont, how would we possibly find out? Oh the police have said if the bank robber that can't be traced comes forward he will get a warning..

31/03/2009 14:15:00

oh, gay hackers leave us alone![b][/b]

31/03/2009 14:15:00

really immiture to "attack" insilio and cosy-climbing without any evidence... _It can be anybody ffs_ But still the hacker should burn... Hate these kindes of things. One person is gonna spoil for everybody

31/03/2009 14:25:00

we got enough reason to tell those communitys' names in the news, otherwise faker wouldnt have done this.

31/03/2009 14:27:00

"The only logical assumption is, that it was one of the insilio or Cosy Climbing admins since brendo used his XJ password on both sites" thats a dumb ass assumption...

31/03/2009 14:29:00

The simple fact that you listed 2 entirely different communities leads me to believe that you don't have anything of substance as a reason for calling out these ones.

31/03/2009 14:42:00

insilio kinda helped XJ out a lot in the last time. It was our goal with our discussion forum and our new ideas to make XJ better. A lot of things like the "democracy" way of handling things came from me, a head admin of insilio. It makes no sense that we would attack and destroy XJ now.

31/03/2009 14:46:00

sorry

31/03/2009 14:50:00

Ok I take back everything I said and I ROFL at using e107

31/03/2009 14:50:00

Big deal, its not like your code will make anyone rich. You're whining cause you're afraid that you're going to lose props... anyway xj is not going to lose its position in kz scene, just by someone stealing your ideas. GPL ftw ;)

31/03/2009 15:11:00

tbh we already found out a few things which make us believe the leacker is a member of cosy or insilio... guys do you really think we would attack 2 community without anything which points out that we are right? rather flame those guys who are still on the "iiN your face"-high...

31/03/2009 15:15:00

You know.. e107 has an option to store in plaintext that you have to actually choose.. normally it stores in md5 salted hashes that cannot be cracked..

31/03/2009 15:20:00

There are only 3 guys in insilio that have full backend access, that's ali, chrizzo and me. Chrizzo even didn't know how to use h1 tag when he wrote his first news at insilio. Ali is more or less inactive when it comes to playing. He's good at php but honestly, i know him good enough to tell you that he wouldnt even think about this crap, he's a good guy. As you (faker, 3ddy, oddy, schlumpf) know i'm having my own things here at xj to care for.. Accusing insilio as a possible suspect for the leak was just so damn pointless, couldnt believe what i was reading. Sorry guys but that really made my day. Gonna check now if there are more people knowing of my little project than i like. [size=1]God damn! Schlumpf, hearing such dumb things from YOU really surprised me most of all. You could just have asked me, you know i can give you all answers you need. *disappointed of this short thinking* :/[/size]

31/03/2009 15:24:00

wtf are you talking about the "iiN your face" high... thats something completely different

31/03/2009 15:25:00

But schlumPF if ur going to attack communities like that publicly and give them a bad reputation, u really have to show the proofes aswell. And one of those communties are for sure innocent, caus it cant be both of em, so ur already managed to acuse someone thats innocent in a public newspost. If u dont understand that it was a mistake to put it in the newspost I dunno what to say.. Eitherway I hope the hacker will come forward. pz.

31/03/2009 15:27:00

tell brendo to change his passwords and if you're so sure it was on of those 2 communities then ban all insilio and cosy staff from XJ until you know who's the hacker. I know this isn't fair for the members of insilio and cosy but at the end one of them will tell the truth and apologize. That's just my opinion... and yes, ROFL at using e107 :)

31/03/2009 15:28:00

sucks :/

31/03/2009 15:36:00

"thats a dumb ass assumption..." let me tell you the whole reason why we think it was one of those communitys: so there are 3 possibilitys how to recieve his pw. 1. brute force 2. e107 vulnerablity 3. someone stole his pw. to 1.: there are no logs of User attempted to login with incorrect password. for brendos account so this is not an option except its really was the first guess which would be very unlikely. to 2.: yes there were vulnerabilitys for the e107 version which we ran before this attack. but everyone who knows how to use that stuff could have spyed on our forums in total stealth without us ever knowing. why should he blow his cover? also he could have done alot more damage. and besides why brendos account? he could have gotten the informations from some more powerful accounts. this leads us to 3.: someone stole his pw. an easy method is that someone with database access at cosyclimbing or insilio (both websites where he used the same username/password combination) looked up his pw hash, entered it in some public rainbowtables and got the pw (yes its that easy). thats why this is the most likely thing that could have happened atleast in my eyes.

31/03/2009 15:36:00

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31/03/2009 15:42:00

elvis. what if the hacker isn't from insilio or cC? Those guys would get banned even they haven't done anything..? And if those would get banned, XJ would lose great worldrecorders (akkord, chrizZo, mjuuh, stormzZ and kunqui).

31/03/2009 15:54:00

Great post sj. To blame e107 for the general vulnerability doesn't make sense this time, because much more damage could've been caused if someone "hacked" one of the headadmin accounts. This was not the case, nor was the site exploited by some other public exploit... Brute force would've been locked and autobanned. So it was "just" someone abusing the admin permissions on his site to look up brendo's pwd and "overtake" his account here at XJ. And since brendo did only use that pw on insilio and cC it can be only one of their admins, simple as that. Of course on of the community is innocent, but that their reputation might be damaged is not really bothering us at the moment - after 3 admins said they might stop to work for the community after things like that... sorry. I think that should be understandable.

31/03/2009 16:04:00

@sj Thats just one of the possibilites. Maybe brando logged in from someplace thats vulnarable for traffic sniffing/key logging, maybe even it was his own LAN (which I guess is doubtful), maybe his computer got hacked... Anyway, you can always blame brando if you're desperate enough to punish somebody...

31/03/2009 16:10:00

yea but what are the odds those places or computer hackers actually are related in any way to the kz scene? they stole the mpbhops plugin and maybe even more. any normal hacker wouldnt actually care for anything about kz. its just trash for any non kz/cs player.

31/03/2009 16:13:00

you guys shud keep your private information more private imo .

31/03/2009 16:13:00

and were not saying insilio or cosyclimbing are the bad ones here. we just assume that someone abused his powers there to do harm to xj. this has nothing to do with the communitys in general.

31/03/2009 16:17:00

..that is the same sj. in order to abuse something you must first have it. The only guys that have the possibilies for this, are the ones that represent and lead the communitys.

31/03/2009 16:18:00

I'll take this opportunity to say, it wasnt me :)

31/03/2009 16:18:00

Maybe someone hacked them and stole brendo's account from them? Is that plausible?

31/03/2009 16:21:00

lol i dont even know how to spell hakc xD SEE

31/03/2009 16:33:00

Maybe a FBI officer had a free day and wanted to hack a page.Than he searched after xtreme jealous things and found xj.Despite he didn't know the page or the progresses that happen on this page , he hacked it. Therefore he used a special hack called icanhackall.exe . After his hack trip he decided to go back to his old job as FBI officer and was never be seen again on xj. Possible or ? Or not ? It could be but i maintain...

31/03/2009 16:48:00

Think a lil before accusing some ppl, fuckers. This rly pisses me off. "The only logical assumption is, that it was one of the insilio or Cosy Climbing admins since brendo used his XJ password on both sites as well and only these admins could find out his password with a little trick and access to the site's database or ftp..." maybe do some research first.

31/03/2009 16:56:00

Might I add one more suspect to the news post which is much more likely to be the one who hacked the site? [b][/b]Brendo333[b][/b]

31/03/2009 17:00:00

well its someone from cosy-climbing or a good friend of brendo and maybe he trust in him . but i`m sure its something strange with some members from cosy climbing

31/03/2009 17:03:00

in addition to that brendo could have a keylogger on his computer. I had that myself due some guy that wanted to hack my steam account and my XJ account etc...

31/03/2009 17:15:00

The only logical assumption

31/03/2009 17:15:00

yea ur right chrizzo i could be like that

31/03/2009 17:16:00

hrrr hacker! i hate it x(

31/03/2009 17:31:00

[blockquote]well its someone from cosy-climbing or a good friend of brendo and maybe he trust in him . but i`m sure its something strange with some members from cosy climbing[/blockquote] Do you even know us, Mr Random? Plus there are too many possible ways of this happening so accusing two communities is totally wrong. Even if the evidence points towards them. False accusations are gonna get you guys nowhere.

31/03/2009 17:59:00

Ok, had time to go through all of the the posts now... unfortunately a lot of trash and immature posts, looks like half of you guys didn't even read the whole newspost or don't care at all. Sad to see for what kind of ppl we are spending parts of our spare time. - One of the great and appreciated cmts done by darkflawless, really appreciated your input, even though it's a pretty agressive one. But well, here are my thoughts about it. [quote=darkflawless] So you start off this news by insinuating that another KZ community is out to destroy XJ? You think that throwing some bad publicity to other communities helps anyone?[/quote] Well, we don't think that another community trys to destroy XJ, we just think that one OF them is abusing his admin privileges to mess around at other sites. An no, we do not intend to harm or blame the whole community. Talked with chrizZo from insilio about it and he knows that. If there was a breach in their admin structure he would like to know and remove it as well. So w/e you say, he/they don't feel offended, so I guess it's okay. [quote=darkflawless] What do you think a different community would gain from destroying XJ? XJ is the main hub, it's the place everybody uses and branches out to form these different communities from. Just because you get hacked is no reason at all to become aggressive towards communities who have nothing against XJ.[/quote] Well, actually I assumed that the hacker might be a "rebel" who disagrees about some decisions made at XJ during the last weeks/months. Actually I could understand that after all (been like that when I was young as well) and would appreciated a statement, would've been really interessting. But obviously I overestimate the guy who did it. Due to our latest information he's just some bunch of human crap who wanted to download private files and use them for his own use and/or send it to his friends to feel cool. And last but not least, most importantly we didn't want to be "agressive" towards the community.... but after this incident 3 admins talked and thought about going inactive and stop working for the community, so WE decided that it would be just fair to let you ppl know what is going on "behind the scenes" and in our minds, so they see what consequences the actions might have. [quote=darkflawless] Maybe if your work is so valuable and it's so important that nobody else in the world can use your scripts then you shouldn't be posting them on a terribly secured board. Seeing this makes me think that the people writing these scripts would prefer to keep them completely in house and ensure that the community can't grow in the way it would by distributing code across servers. Are you really afraid somebody might use your script? Considering when plugins get released either everybody knows who they are written by or it has their name displayed during usage, and that the majority of people respect the authors for their work which makes the small group of people who exploit their right to usage completely meaningless. Perhaps XJ should consider a more community constructive approach to their coding and set the standard for other communities, rather than being aggressive towards other communities without thought.[/quote] Well, first of all that was the coder's decision in the first place, not XJ's. They wanted to help to create a special plugin for XJ only to make the servers popular. XJ doesn't always have to be the big and fair "hub" of the community sharing everything... why shouldn't we be allowed to keep some kick-ass server plugin for our use only, to fill up the XJ Kreedzservers and make the to a nice place to be. There are a lof of other communities with jumpservers who wouldn't even thinking about sharing their plugon stuff to other sites as well, because it's what makes them unique. [quote=darkflawless] Do you think it's the community who needs threatening that XJ will be shut down if it continues? Have you not thought that if someone was attacking XJ that releasing a statement that says it will shut down if it continues is the worst thing you could say, if someone wanted that to happen and you haven't done anything about the security situation then you have given them exactly what they wanted.[/quote] Obviously this was an exaggeration/bluff to stress the importance of this news and show how pissed our admins really are/were about this incident. Also it was meant to make the hacker feel bad (if he cares about the kreedz community at all) and maybe come out of the crowd and speak to us. Since the guy we were suspecting already posted in this comments and pretended to know nothing about it, I guess I can say that it didn't exactly work out that well. But why should be bother to post when he didn't want so send a "signal" to us - and just wanted to download some "secret" files for his own use. [quote=darkflawless] If you were so careless and selfish that you ended up closing the site then there would be plenty of people willing to start communities that were either much more open. or much more secure. Real hackers have a motive for hacking and I expect most would love to see the rage they cause displayed on the main page.[/quote] No offense, but thinking that the community would just go on like nothing happend IF XJ would be close just shows how little respect some ppl have towards our admins and towards what XJ did for the community in the past. I really don't like to blow one my own horn, but I don't think it's exaggerated when I say XJ saved Kreedz from the extinction more than once. - However, I guess this newspost failed his purpose to make the hacker stand out of the crowd and talk to us, but please remember the two other reasons why this news was posted (and these were NOT to blame anyone): - [b]Please don't share the private files if you received any of them. Doing so will damage XJ and the people who spent some quality time of their life to make you guys happy and contributed in the community.[/b] - [b]To show you that admins are humand as well and how they feel about situations like that.[/b] Of course XJ won't be closed that easliy, so sorry for the kinda "outrageous" newspost.

31/03/2009 18:05:00

Ah and btw, it would be cool if this guy if from germany, you could file a justice claim and I'm sure nobody would ever try again to hack the website I don't know about German laws but we can do that in France =) You can't do this in Bulgaria.. so bulgarian hackers could hack xj all the time... hmm and about this shitty news.. well I think that it's dumb to beg someone not to release your scripting over the internet ... and you won't find who did it anyway so this part of the post is useless "Dear downloaders, I'm begging you: Do _not_ release any parts of the code. Numb and I put months of work into the plugins and we really don't want to become the codes public since we planned to give them only to XJ. Please contact me to talk about this if you downloaded anything, you may even use parts of the plugins as long as you don't share them." "Here are some lines for the "hacker" as well: Whoever you are and and whatever your intentions were ... if you talk to us about who you are and why you did it you might get away with a warning. So if there were any "positive motives" behind the negative action at all, this is YOUR TIME to be a man and talk about CHANGES and tell everyone what you think about XJ and why you did it."

31/03/2009 18:14:00

i hope your not letting brendo himself go off your mind in this -.- and i expect a whole news post where it says that your sorry when you've understood its non of us.

31/03/2009 18:14:00

isnt that bid stupid to store those plugins 'n shit at site? and woah, this is getting reeeeally fun :) xj doesnt care a shit about cosu/insilo atm and ofc cosu/insilo are flaming about it. but still, xj cant prove anything fo sho. I love the stupid drama here :D Any information from any of the ppl who got their hands on these stolen plugins and stuff?

31/03/2009 18:16:00

Interesting. I want to see a statement from the hacker. Why did he chose to do it? Why adminfora?

31/03/2009 18:19:00

[b]lolz [color=#3333ff]*changes all his pw's*[/color][/b]

31/03/2009 18:46:00

@ Roman Zoe I only want to say to you: "[color=#993399]Gan li Nier[/color]" :DDDDD XJ had been hacked, and you said those words...have any sense? Dont think here has no one know Chinese...

31/03/2009 18:53:00

gl for this after hack XJ btw this only can be a fucking retard that done that -.- hack this free community ...

31/03/2009 19:06:00

lol, xj was hacked and mysterious nothing was deleted... I reserve my opinion... Is it necesary acuse to insilio or cosy climbing? e107 can be hacked by some boy that know some basic things.

31/03/2009 19:14:00

Kunqui: The point is (as written in 5 or 6 posts above) that he page WASN't hacked. Someone stole a password, and that can't be done "by some boy"... Why don't people read before they post?

31/03/2009 19:15:00

Kunqui: The point is (as written in 5 or 6 posts above) that he page WASN't hacked. Someone stole a password, and that can't be done "by some boy", only by admins with access to the password. Why don't people read before they post?

31/03/2009 19:16:00

Answer for Funksta. akkord, chrizZo, mjuuh, stormzZ and kunqui, who cares? :D No but seriously, if the admins are SURE it's someone in those two communities then ban them until you get the person who hacked XJ.

31/03/2009 19:20:00

Thank you for taking the time to respond faker, I realize the tone of my comment was aggressive but I was responding to an aggressive post. You are right that the community would not continue as it is currently if XJ vanished but I don't believe the community would die off because of it, it's too big.

31/03/2009 19:30:00

I think it was a guy who has no life n.n

31/03/2009 19:36:00

I'm pretty sure it was keylogger on his computer, doesn't need to be good for doing that -.-

31/03/2009 19:47:00

[u][b]iiN[/b][/u] own he`s mistake and I think that he is clear about this,BUT someone is jealous at "xtreme-jumps" and doing this irrespective at all

31/03/2009 19:48:00

Sad news.

31/03/2009 21:21:00

I wrote a statement of Insilio about the current issue here. First of all, I'm sorry that people disrespect the work and effort you are doing for years now at XJ. I'm sorry for the aggressive comments of the members of insilio, but as we understand your position I wish you can understand ours. Of course we are not happy to see our name in such a news post. It's completely the other way around, since we are innocent. So please understand that the first reaction of some members of us were as aggressive as the news post was, maybe even more aggressive. Some comments were made with too slightly background information, so they kinda seemed inappropriate. However, we can understand the importance of the news post and the position of XJ, [b]thats why[/b] we are accepting the aggressive tone into the news. We understand that it's not about insilio in any way, it's about the existence of XJ. It's not the time to be mad at some words that was written with emotions. Furthermore this news post won't harm us in any way. So to sum it up, we accept your aggressive tone and we won't take it personal. In addition to that I want to add a main foundation of our acting at insilio. [u]We are not here to attack XJ, we want to help XJ.[/u] Many times our Discussion Forum was misunderstood as an attack on XJ. Like a place where you can flame and shout everything out that you can't say at XJ, because you would get a warning by doing so. But thats not the truth, we don't want to end up in a flame community either as you can maybe imagine it. A lot of good and constructive criticism were practiced here in our Discussion Forum. When we started a lot of people didn't believe that XJ would notice our efforts to change some things. But as the time showed us a lot of good aspects were assumed in the proceed of XJ. The whole idea of creating a more “democracy” likely community is attributed to chrizZo's threads opened in the Discussion Forum. We always tried to help XJ, why should we attack it now in such a brutal way? It makes no sense. As an addition to that our site admin [flag]de[/flag][b] eMTi[/b] is involved in that project. This means we would attack ourself by doing so. This is the next hint that insilio isn't the abuser of this. We got hacked as well some months ago with the same method. Someone found out my username and password at insilio and logged into my account. He made the private forums public and wrote a news post, that we should fix our leaks. Happily this attack didn't harm us in any way, because we didn't host anything that was meant to be secret. But as you can see someone has done the same to us, with the completely same advance. It seems like this trick is well known. The only thing where I can help you now is to be here and answer questions, but I can give you one advice for the future: [b]Make sure that the admins of XJ understand the importance of a good password[/b]. If you would have done that earlier, this misery would have been avoided.

31/03/2009 21:36:00

Please capitalize Insilio in the news :)

31/03/2009 21:49:00

we dont need capital letters, we are great enough ;D

31/03/2009 21:51:00

eMTi is so strange sometimes

sn00p -_-
31/03/2009 22:05:00

[img]http://imagehosting.ro/images/174zze9tvgk0gjhn1aaj.jpg[/img] wth images don't work

sn00p -_-
31/03/2009 22:05:00

fabio did it [img]http://blogs.tampabay.com/juice/images/2007/11/07/fabio.jpg[/img]

31/03/2009 22:08:00

i investigated and found out that insilio is infact a suborganization of the illuminati and their plan is to take over the kz world and kill the soon to be born messiah of kreedz! When you read this my account will probably be deleted or hacked but my spirit will live on!! INSILIO!! HEAR ME!!! YOU CAN HACK ME BUT THERE WILL BE MORE OF US! THE GOOD WILL WIN AFTER ALL IN AN EPIC BATTLE IN REAL LIFE WITH WATER PISTOLS!!! NOEEEESSSS

31/03/2009 22:28:00

don't use 123 as password next time :E

31/03/2009 22:39:00

itachi <3

31/03/2009 22:40:00

zocker tried to set his password to penis but it said it wasn't long enough lolz

31/03/2009 22:50:00

"in addition to that brendo could have a keylogger on his computer. I had that myself due some guy that wanted to hack my steam account and my XJ account etc... " no i didnt effin' hack you

31/03/2009 23:16:00

n1 soul :D

01/04/2009 00:26:00

changed my pw's..

01/04/2009 08:00:00

[quote]A lot of things like the "democracy" way of handling things came from me, a head admin of insilio.[/quote] [quote]The whole idea of creating a more “democracy” likely community is attributed to chrizZo's threads opened in the Discussion Forum.[/quote] Yey, you invented democracy! Simply said, you just asked people if XJ should be more democratic and this way YOU made XJ democratic? And obviously even mentioning the communities' names in the newspost was a wrong thing to do, the scriptkiddie could be anyone. Besides, AMXX plugins are meant to be "open-source".

01/04/2009 08:25:00

a shame that ppl just accuse others... eg. -- iiN... I mean, no one has actuall EVIDENCE / PROOF to back it up ffs... ITS PURE ACCUSATION.

01/04/2009 10:01:00

is it possible that the hacker got all passwords from all users? if is so then we should all change our pws.

01/04/2009 12:18:00

sry, it was my 3 year old brother :)

01/04/2009 12:19:00

[blockquote]And obviously even mentioning the communities' names in the newspost was a wrong thing to do, the scriptkiddie could be anyone. Besides, AMXX plugins are meant to be "open-source". [/blockquote] good post

01/04/2009 12:47:00

More hackers = more childrens. Admins! Soon you'll become a tutors to this kiddo band.

01/04/2009 12:54:00

31.3. noobs?

01/04/2009 19:01:00

Wowz o.O

01/04/2009 19:11:00

Sorry to hear about the site, better luck to you all in the future. -Hap

03/04/2009 01:53:00

pm for new plugins i just got!

04/04/2009 02:28:00

Oh btw I like pie, so pm me if you want some.

04/04/2009 11:42:00

failblog.com

04/04/2009 17:04:00

[b]brendo[/b], 1 password for 2 accs, shame on you

16/08/2009 22:02:00

Hack + player Noob = (*)>