A step to "Public Mapchecking"

By faker mapper·
Hey guys,

since the mapreleases seem to cause a lot of controversy lately, we decided to make an attempt to involve everyone who's interested in the whole mapcheck process. Please note that the first stage is meant as a test, to see if it could work and to see if people really try to contribute (and not just download the maps and say goodbye), therefore there is no real "voting" included yet.

This means new maps will pass: 1. The XJ Mapcheck Team -> 2. The Public Mapcheck Area (1 week beta testing) -> Maprelease

There will be a new section in the forum for this to happen, where the new and accepted maps (or controversial maps) get posted, before they will be released released.

The first forum will be called "Applications": People who want to get access to the "Download" forum will have to post their application in there. But the main goal is NOT to have a second, bigger, Mapcheck team, therefore this we won't handle the applications too restrictive. Showing us that you are capable to write some good posts and that you have a bit expierence will be enough. Also: Only If the ppl abuse their position their access will be revoked - however it would be good if you'd stay active and take part in the testing regularly.

The second forum is the "Download" forum, which is only visible for the ppl with the new userclass. The links will be protected so once you are kicked out of the team (due to abuse or inactivity) you won't be abled to download maps anymore.

The third and most important forum is the "Maptest" forum: Everyone can access and discuss in this forum, which should be motivating for all of the people, because they can see all the screenshots of the new maps BUT not play them (at least not until they decided write an application). This is the place where major bugs and shortcuts found during the test can be posted! Therefore it's a big help, finding bugs or issues the mapcheck couldn't find, will improve the future quality of the new maps and eliminate big bug shortcuts. It will also give you a chance to bring in your opinion and thoughts about the map.

// The whole project will run for 1-2 months as a test, if it doesn't work (many leaks or people who download but don't contribute) we'll remove it, if it works and the mapquality will benefit we'll think about expanding the system and adding more permissions and public voting.

We'll hope you'll like it (and use it ;))!

Best regards,

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05/04/2009 22:47:00

nice :) .

05/04/2009 22:53:00

NICE;)

05/04/2009 22:55:00

nice^3

05/04/2009 22:55:00

=)

05/04/2009 22:58:00

sounds really great..

05/04/2009 22:58:00

great =)

05/04/2009 23:00:00

That's a good idea))) nice)

05/04/2009 23:02:00

oh nice )

05/04/2009 23:09:00

really cool idea ! :D

05/04/2009 23:12:00

nice, it looks some of my ideas got picked up :)

05/04/2009 23:22:00

great idea :) i posted my application.

05/04/2009 23:34:00

they have steaksauce in kwiki-market xdddd

05/04/2009 23:38:00

great !

05/04/2009 23:57:00

nice !!

06/04/2009 00:16:00

good idea

06/04/2009 00:18:00

sounds like a good idea :)

06/04/2009 00:30:00

I think this might work and helps to increase quality of the new maps. :) N1!

06/04/2009 00:37:00

great

06/04/2009 00:47:00

*thumbs up*

06/04/2009 00:47:00

OGOGOOG RYD

06/04/2009 00:54:00

Biggest mistake (some call it FAIL) ever made

06/04/2009 01:05:00

+1 raver! do i (as a mapper) get a vote about that my maps get posted to public?

06/04/2009 01:33:00

now the mapupload needs an anonymus checking checkbox which is for no public testing otherwise a good solution :)

06/04/2009 02:12:00

If i dont like the mapper i will vote NO ! MUAHAHAHA

06/04/2009 03:03:00

kewl

06/04/2009 03:05:00

>:E muahaha x2

06/04/2009 05:52:00

aaah well at least XJ is finally acting like they care what the community thinks. seems like a quick way out to me! im sure the same issues as always will arise from the 'minority'

06/04/2009 06:53:00

I wanted to post a similar idea in suggestions forum :P Great desicion guys ;)

06/04/2009 07:20:00

great idea, i don't see any negatives with this decision ! nice :]

06/04/2009 08:56:00

nice step, let's see what happens.

06/04/2009 09:01:00

sounds interesting :)

06/04/2009 09:17:00

just found something wierd, or maybe i misunderstood the system: Why do you seperate each map into to threads ("maptest" & "opinion")? Apperently you already had the opinion part included within the maptest thread, but then for some reason decided to exclude it. Can't see any reason for this.

06/04/2009 09:58:00

Can I send an application at any time? After a month or so.

06/04/2009 10:11:00

I think the mappers should decide wether they want the public vote or the old way.

06/04/2009 11:15:00

yes dacca, you should be able to apply at any time

06/04/2009 13:04:00

[quote=raver] Biggest mistake (some call it FAIL) ever made [/quote] I do not agree with raver, cuz this has some chances to turn out not so bad... [quote=mtoboiii8000] +1 raver! do i (as a mapper) get a vote about that my maps get posted to public? [/quote] I agree that projects (every map is a tiny project) need to be released when author wants. Not sure how with mapping, but in amxx plugin can be released [u]ONLY[/u] when scripter decides so. Plus talked with faker about making some screenshots and mini-movie of the maps for VIPs. Faker didn't agree cuz mappers have to decide themselfs do they want map to go in public. Yes - screenshots =/= .bsp but why this idea is bad for VIPs but is good for all public?.. Anyway, I'm confused [quote=SpiNe] I think the mappers should decide wether they want the public vote or the old way. [/quote] +1 If it would be with amxx it's just breaking the GPL rules, and I surely won't agree and sit on doing nothing with that... However this is a nice chance for me to make maps better and I will use. But mappers should and must to discuss with admins about this decision. Cuz it can bring and bad results...

06/04/2009 13:36:00

No sc's anymore then`? :( If they r tested as much as i understood and changed after it they'll be kind of boring imo.

06/04/2009 13:48:00

VertaX, removed SCs are almost always uber big SCs due to bugs, if the mapper wants a SC in his map, and that it is not uber easy, I think he can let it in the map. kz_facility for example, many SCs because rad0n wanted them.

06/04/2009 13:55:00

yea but I mean that they may come too "tunnel like" now on. But hey, we will see

06/04/2009 14:21:00

sounds good

06/04/2009 16:00:00

NumB there are no rights for maps.

06/04/2009 16:11:00

well, mappers can't decide that does he wants that map to be released or not, if you post it, then you accept that this map will be released. But, something should be done to not let maps leak to other guys whos not applied + not too much public mapcheckers, still it has to stay at checking, not "playing map before others." (im pretty sure that there will be appliers who apply just for this reason).

06/04/2009 16:12:00

Nice idea, i think it will be good

06/04/2009 17:05:00

awesome ! i think this will work just fine

06/04/2009 18:48:00

bring'it on

06/04/2009 22:34:00

Go ryderc : V

30/06/2009 18:39:00

nice