The "kayne" incident: 2 Cheaters, New policy against cheaters, thopa kicked

By faker mapper·
Hey guys,

there were never such a controversial demorelease in the history of XJ before, so you might already know what I'm talking about: kayne's new "shortcut" in clintmo_bhoptoon.

Some of you guys already suspected that it might be cheated, since there is no ramp or anything similar. After further investigations we found out that it is cheated indeed and the shortcut is not possible because it doesn't exist, also this is a new era of cheating, since he used a very lame and nasty way of cheating: an AMXX plugin which gave him a 2000 u/s velocity boost at the push of a bind/button.

For this lame way of cheating - and also leaking FPS-Death - he will be punished with a permanent ban.

Cheatdemos:

clintmo_bhoptoon_kayne_0007
clintmo_bhoptoon_kayne_0003
kz_man_eznasa_kayne_0038
kz_man_nasa_kayne_0045

s1z3 who did submit a cheat demo using this plugin, too, will get a permanent ban from the website as well, especially since he was involved in leaking FPS-Death too.

Cheatdemo:

clintmo_bhoptoon_s1z3_0004

The possible coder of the plugin xPaw, who did at least know that kayne was using the cheatplugin and didn't report it to us admins, will get a permanent ban as well.

Take this as a warning, knowing about cheaters might get you banned as well.

Note: KeltA's old demo will be restored soon.

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A new policy against cheaters:

Due to the recent poll about 64% of you guys want to see harder punishments for cheaters. Therefore the rules got updated and all cheaters using hacks, plugins or such to cheat (which cannot happen "accidently") will get a permanent ban. Also it just comes in handy that SteamIDs are stored inside the demos after the latest cs update, which will help a lot because cheater won't be abled to come back with other nicknames that easily anymore. Now they need a new account at least, whic means they need to spend real money if they really want to come back and cheat again.

However, we offer every cheater a one-time chance to convince us that they changed after a period of 6 months. This will happen over an essay written for us admins, including the motives of cheating, the way of cheating (including detailed explanation of which programs were used and how they work) and some words about what caused a change of thinking. Any attempt to avoid the bantime by creating new accounts, or using the accounts of a friend, will blast this chance.

Note: The recently unbanned cheaters won't be allowed to submit demos unless they write such an essay.

Some other minor adjustments

One of the pretty old rules, which caused some controversy in the latest release, got updated as well.

Kill yourself at the end of the demo. At the time you kill yourself, you must have a nickname which is the same as the nick you submit the demo with.

got some minor adjustments:

The nickname you are using in your demo has to be the same as the nick you submit the demo with. Make sure you are using your correct nickname and that it's visible somewhere in the demo. To achieve this we strongly suggest that you kill yourself at the end of the demo.

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Some words about thopa

Unfortunately kayne's cheatdemos had another side-effect. After he got busted he decided to go mad about it, insult all of his old friends and to do as much damage as possible, including posting a leaked version of FPS Death Admin to our chatbox and IRC, which was passed to him from s1z3, the admin of the community Cypress-Climbing. s1z3 is obviously a guy who can't be trusted, no wonder that he was previously banned for cheating (bhop script) on XJ as well. The really outrageous thing about this is, however, that our beloved demo admin thopa was the one who handed out FPS Death admin to s1z3 in the first place, without permissions to do so from one of the CEO's or the FPS Death coder eDark himself. By doing this, he was clearly abusing his admin permissions on XJ as well as all the trust we had in him in a very awful way. Only god know what damage this might cause, since FPS Death only can provide security if it's not available to possible hackers and coders... Therfore we'd like to ask you to keep the file for yourself and don't share it, because this will do damage to XJ and our record section. Also the program got changed, so you might watch out for a possible trojan/backdoor infection. However I want to say thanks for all the wonderful work he did for us by bringing us a huge amount of demo releases, sad that it had to end this way.

Note: I just wanted to add that Cypress Climbing is not considered as "official" community here at XJ, no matter what their banner says. Therfore it didn't (and won't) get any official support -at least not under the current leadership.

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01/08/2009 23:37:00

we love thopa

01/08/2009 23:41:00

:sad face: for xPaw

01/08/2009 23:41:00

thopa come back:pPPpPPPPPppPPpPPPpp

01/08/2009 23:42:00

thopa ftw

01/08/2009 23:43:00

lol kayne

01/08/2009 23:43:00

<333 thopa :(((

01/08/2009 23:43:00

bb kayne nice try. that's too bad for thopa, we want his back !

01/08/2009 23:43:00

[b]kayne [/b]& [b]s1z3 [/b]are just idiots, so is [b]xPaw[/b]! The bad thing is that I knew about s1z3, what a retard he is, but it's ashame for the others. About [b]thopa[/b], it is sad. Well I guess I can say only thank you for the work you've done here.

01/08/2009 23:44:00

:sad face: Its not my fault what he used my plugin

01/08/2009 23:46:00

sad :( , is there any chance to get him back ?

01/08/2009 23:46:00

i ,mean thopa

01/08/2009 23:46:00

who is going to make demo releases?

01/08/2009 23:46:00

Sad story...Just sad. Xj will change, in good or bad, I don't know, but xj will change :/

01/08/2009 23:47:00

kayne was going down and he took others with him. We want thopa back, he is an old admin with experience, very nice person and we just need him. It his first mistake (public maybe) in 4 years, so we want it back. Cmon dudes ... arrogant admins left only!

01/08/2009 23:47:00

As i already said to thopa, it's sad to have a end like that. But he did an awesome work for xj by checking ~15demos per week, and.. he worked a long time for XJ, that a nice guy. Thopa was one of the best xjdemo-admin, and as i already said : He was, He was , and he will be the xj demo-checker. <3 Thopa.

01/08/2009 23:50:00

Really sad Thopa, you was allways so helpful and the best demo releaser on XJ ever :/

01/08/2009 23:50:00

Sad day here at XJ. Loosing the most active demo releaser in a long time and taking a whole community down with it all. A truly sad day.

.#DreamX
01/08/2009 23:51:00

heL^_x im whit u on that part but xPaw why did u code such a plugin? what was the point of it? and s1z3 why even be so stupid to share it to kayne if you knew even thopa had permission to share it , he trusted you ... but you dumb fuck did so we lost thopa :( , and what about kayne.... i just saw this comming.

01/08/2009 23:52:00

feel sry for thopa, a good thing that cheatorz got what they deserve

01/08/2009 23:52:00

gj kayne & s1z3.

01/08/2009 23:53:00

kayne - You are a dick, you wasted my time with your countless fake nicks. Tjaro, korall, Dr. Phill. Countless hours of checking your fucked up slowmo cheated demos. I offer you no sympathy and hope you burn deep down below. Thankyou. s1z3 - retard. xPaw retard too. Thopa, really thought you were smarter than that. You deserve a ban though.

01/08/2009 23:53:00

I'm currently in Cypress-Climbing team, probably will ask for removing me because it's lame to be an admin of a community where head admin is a fucking cheater. About xpaw - i think ill stay "friends" with him as i did before, atleast he didn't use this plugin to make demos himself.. Thopa.. wow, just can't belive it after these many years he have been a demoreleaser in here.

01/08/2009 23:53:00

never trust a junkie! Sad thopa realy sad

01/08/2009 23:53:00

LOL You can't kick thopa !! It's like kicking Sir Alex Ferguson from Manchester United for a mistake. :<

01/08/2009 23:55:00

hel very good words, have done much to xj, I think it was also one of the best demo-admin, is really sad and I am really surprised and disappointed to have finished well Thopa <3.... :(:(

01/08/2009 23:55:00

looooooooooooooooooooool thopa kicked? for me he's the most loyal admin on XJ, used to write a nice comment for a lot of releases, complementing a new record holder etc.... this has to be a joke x) xPaw a ban too, ridiculous Since when is it illegal to write shitty plugins, the cheater decides whether he uses the plugin or not... i bet xpaw gives a sh*t about people using his plugin, wouldn't u? but hey, its faker on a ban spree again! (time thopa invested in releasing all those demos equals ban for ''leaking'' fps death?)

01/08/2009 23:55:00

I'm really happy to see, that the XJ admins are f.ckin serious :) Good Job =]

01/08/2009 23:55:00

Maybe sad news for someone, maybe xj lost some [i]good?[/i] guys .. but we can do nothing, thats reality. Goodluck in the future by defending from people as them.

01/08/2009 23:57:00

WTB THOPA BACK.

01/08/2009 23:57:00

Sad thing about thopa, bring him back! <3

01/08/2009 23:58:00

<3 cg

01/08/2009 23:59:00

get thopa back!

01/08/2009 23:59:00

nothing to say about kayne, s1z3 and xpaw.. thopa: uber fail.. give fps death to s1z3 without permission.. really bad.. hope u can tell xj community what were u thinking about in that moment..

02/08/2009 00:00:00

hi dyle

02/08/2009 00:00:00

thopa :(

02/08/2009 00:00:00

FUCKING KAYNE! S1Z3...... THOPA NOOO THOPA NOOO THOPA NOOO!

02/08/2009 00:01:00

cu thopa... seems silly to do that

02/08/2009 00:03:00

come on you can't kick thopa like that -_-

02/08/2009 00:04:00

thopa, as hel said, you will be the demo-releaser of XJ for ever

02/08/2009 00:04:00

faker quit the gestapo style XJ management

02/08/2009 00:05:00

Come on, get real. How can you just kick thopa ? Remember, no one gets paid for what they are doing at xj and thopa was doing a great job after all. So many demo-releases and so many hours of dedication and work for this comunity. You know that you'll never find another demo-admin like him anywhere. OK, maybe he is guilty, but kicking him just like that is just ridiculous!Do you really think this is what he deserves after all he has done for XJ ?

02/08/2009 00:06:00

pedro said: [blockquote]Maybe sad news for someone, maybe xj lost some good? guys .. [/blockquote] Guys? I'm sure XJ lost only ONE guy and that's thopa. xPaw, in my opinion, it's your fault you code your plugin like that. Good job faker, except for thopa. :)

02/08/2009 00:10:00

poor guys[b][/b]

02/08/2009 00:12:00

they've the best admin here :S

02/08/2009 00:12:00

they've *kicked the best admin here :S

02/08/2009 00:12:00

s1z3 ........ no1 will trust u anymore ,u killed thopa even he offered u big help :( did u always repay those guys who helped u in such a way ? and kayne ,u made 2 mistakes in a row ,act like a kid , at least we still have a good time back then ,hope u can have a good time in real life and grow up

02/08/2009 00:13:00

too bad, thopa was such a nice admin :(

02/08/2009 00:13:00

Well it's not like thopa is banned or anything so maybe it's possible we will see him again in admin position? Anyway gj to the community for taking time and investigating kayne's demo. Looks like people will do everything for fame ;)

02/08/2009 00:17:00

nooo thopa =(

02/08/2009 00:18:00

what a sad news! kz go down day by day.... If thopa still love XJ and Kz he should come back again!

02/08/2009 00:20:00

k3G, he doesnt even go to school and he dont have any friends, so i cant say he has a "real life" :-DDD

02/08/2009 00:20:00

<3 THOPA !

02/08/2009 00:22:00

really lame kayne, s1z3 and xpaw. really lame. which is why ive deleted kayne, i dont wanna be associated with this hacker. sad thopa had to go :(

02/08/2009 00:31:00

fuck kayne & s1z3 and xpaw...:@ thopa ...!

02/08/2009 00:35:00

XHAXHAHAXHXAHXA KAYNE BUSTED !

02/08/2009 00:36:00

After this incident I lost all respect towards kayne, xPaw and s1z3 - not that I had any to start off with, really. I'm truly shocked, that thopa was kicked... I am just out of words, really. I think, that thopa shouldn't have been completely kicked from the community even though he did something truly unforgivable. His great work here in XJ especially with demo releases was great, he was the most active releaser without a doubt. Three major communities have suffered from this, XJ included in those three. [b]Xtreme-Jumps[/b] thopa's "removal", FPS Death-leak, general confusion in the public... [b]insilio.net[/b] Not only XJ suffered from this, but insilios reputation was given a punch in the groin. From earlier controversial players, $iw and Tess who were caught from using a slowmotion hack, to the new cheater(s) kayne (and xPaw). Some gentleman said to me, that "insilio is a cheat clan" and mentioned kayne, xPaw, Tess and $iw... I just wish that in everyones eyes insilios reputation will stay clear. The admins can't know if some idiotic child starts using cheats. [b]Cypress-Climbing[/b] I think Cypress-Climbing suffered ALOT from this. Personally I lost alot of interest to the site because of s1z3's cheating, I have also seen him be a very childish player and a liar. It is just so low to cheat, and the HEAD of a big community like Cypress-Climbing, the "face" of the community cheating? That is a major blow to the whole community, how can we trust a cheater checking demos and taking care of the site. xPaw was also a recent member of the coding staff in Cypress-Climbing. Yet another cheater who works for the "official unofficial community", more blows to the public image. [b]The people involved[/b] [u]xPaw[/u] I don't know what to say, if you created the plugin for cheating-purposes its as low as a coder can really get. A gifted veteran plugin-creator crafting a device for evil purposes. I just don't know what to say. [u]kayne[/u] ... jesus christ. If what qewi said about you is true, about you being peabztah; banned several times from EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME... continuing to cheat, submitting cheated demos, being arrogant over your cheated results and starting to act like an elitist even though you just can't play the game. With a few words I can say: how fucking stupid can a humanbeing be? [u]thopa[/u] I'm sad that thopa was kicked from XJ, as he was a great admin and a very active one too. He did alot of good work here and then leaks out a secretive program which can end up in anyones hands, people can take advantage of it and create undetectable ways to cheat. I don't still think you deserved a ban, but I do think that alot of your rights shouldv'e been taken off. [u]s1z3[/u] You're a moron. You knew kayne cheated, you used the same plugin to cheat yourself. You justified your acts by saying "I only did it once" or "I just wanted to try for fun". You just don't take it seriously enough. Cheating is breaking the most fundamental laws of XJ, its like MURDER in real life. P.S. I've got a 8 second demo on clintmo_bhoptoon by kayne, not that anyone cares. He sent it to me and "wanted to keep it secret". I feel like I was raped... I was handed a cheated demo and I didn't realize, I'm raped. I am raped. Raped.

02/08/2009 00:38:00

ahahhaha xj admins , that was not a good decision :D i bet you all are 2 lazy to check ~20 demos a week, but thopa did this. so its a weird decision that u kick thopa just because he trusted a little fucking snake... its ofcourse thopas fault but its not a reason for banning him in my eyes :/

02/08/2009 00:43:00

s1z3&kayne&xpaw: FUCKTARDS! You dickheads murdered thopa, burn in hell yo heroes.

02/08/2009 00:46:00

lol it was obvious kayne cheated. Sad for thopa though. Shouldn't be banned imo. Has worked hard over the past years. I mean put yourself in his position.

02/08/2009 00:46:00

omg, fuck s1z3 & fuck kayne...

02/08/2009 00:46:00

burn in hell except thopa, i guess.

02/08/2009 00:48:00

Are you foreals? Blame thopa for this? Thopa gave out the FPS-Death because he wanted the commuinty to grow in a better way, he wanted more people to get into the site. What he did was right, it's just that he trusted the wrong person. And now you're going to back stab him because some fucking cheater gone mad and dragged him down the water. Thopa is the BEST and i mean the best admin on this damn site. Get a fucking brain, jesus cries.

02/08/2009 00:50:00

rofl alex

02/08/2009 00:50:00

[color=#cc00cc]Thopa <3[/color]

Njuby^_x
02/08/2009 00:51:00

Sad... s1z3 you blows , kayne thought you were good.. thopa i love you, xPAW bah...

02/08/2009 00:52:00

waiting for thopa's comment...

02/08/2009 00:53:00

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02/08/2009 00:53:00

NOOOooo thopaa :'( Isn't that kind of exaggerated.. I haven't seen any other mistakes in his admin time.. I've been around from 05 and I've never seen his kind of admin. Is this the way how u guys thank him about all work he did. I know he did a mistake but still.. Just think how much he did for this community. [quote]i bet you all are 2 lazy to check ~20 demos a week, but thopa did this. so its a weird decision that u kick thopa just because he trusted a little fucking snake... its ofcourse thopas fault but its not a reason for banning him in my eyes :/[quote] I totally agree with that..

02/08/2009 00:56:00

and +1 @ alex This is exactly what kayne wants, bring as many person as possible down with him. I'am really disappointed..

02/08/2009 00:56:00

thopa's not banned... I can get why he wanted to help cypress climbing out but I can't fucking get why he had to give it to s1z3, who's probably the best example of what a man shouldn't be... Seriously, how dumb is that? I don't care for the rest. Burn in hell. Agree with kafds about kayne. Couldn't have said it any better. Grow up please. Mature people know how to accept the consequences of their acts. That's why I don't think thopa will get back even if he had the chance. Saying stuff like "get thopa back!" only makes you look like spoiled kids arguing with their mommy. Bye.

02/08/2009 00:59:00

1st - thopa isn't banned. he got a warning. 2nd - Ewoud, i might wanna call you гнойный пидор, but not. Leaking FPS-death equals time that has been spent on every single release/newspost here at XJ.

02/08/2009 01:15:00

Well guys, I think some of you guys can't understand the true meaning of this. God knows I really "loved" thopa for being a great person to discuss and a very active and consistent admin and the last thing I imagined was that I ever had to kick him out of XJ... really. This is not a small mistake, this is a major punch in our faces... FPS-Death is like the holy grale of XJ, leaking it caused more damage than deleting our whole web would have done. And believe me, I would have even forgiven him if he deleted the whole website because he was drunk or whatever... Because we have backups for that. The damage caused by the FPS-Death leak can't be made undone. Once it will fall into the wrong hands people will use it to test their cheatdemos (no more cheaters will submit demos, they will know before they submit if their cheats are detected) and people might use it to develop undetectable cheats. So basically thopa was destroying what he tryed to protect the last months/years, by a "stupid small mistake". And I assume he knows it: (21:56:15) (xj|thopa_off) I just don't know what to think of myself, since this is basicly what I'm here to prevent, and yet I managed to fuckup completely and do the thing i'm not supposed to do Not going to paste more, it's his decisions whether he wants to write a statement or not. - Ewoud: Clever comment, really.... I'm sorry, but this ain't utopia, this is the real world where retarded people do bad things, this newspost is the very proof (not referring to thopa here, more about the other guys involved in this newspost). Therfore leading a community means making strict and bitter decisions sometimes... It's not about having fun or being friendly all the time... I guess most of the people who talk to me in private can confirm that I'm not "cold" or "arrogant".

02/08/2009 01:15:00

damn st0ka, you are calling me a spoiled kid arguing with my mom :( I was the one who said "get thopa back!" xD

02/08/2009 01:15:00

please don't call me a bloody fag :D i think we both detest NDR's endless enthusiasm, we shud be friends instead.

02/08/2009 01:17:00

thopa o.O

02/08/2009 01:28:00

lol. why should cheater have a second chance if even thopa can't have a second one ? This new rule is just fucking stupid. Think again.

02/08/2009 01:30:00

mxml, it's a falling trick!

02/08/2009 01:32:00

KAYNE FUCKED HAHAHA

02/08/2009 01:34:00

gj kayne, noob. and xpaw! haha ? but thopa O.o

02/08/2009 01:35:00

i feel rage in your message, remake. That's not a problem there are more fags than u over there like kayne, which are in fact kids. U had not to attack me, kid.

02/08/2009 01:36:00

If hacker deserves a second chance, SO DOES THOPA? +1 mxml

S3eKeR-_-
02/08/2009 01:40:00

lol i knew its gonna happen.

02/08/2009 01:46:00

get thopa back! please!

02/08/2009 01:50:00

simen.alex - its completely different both things.. what will change in xj if a guy send a cheated demo? anything i think.. what will change in xj if lot of people has in their hands the admin fps death? maybe a lot, if a good hacker find the way to cheat and the fps death can't detect that cheat.. btw, time will decide.. !

02/08/2009 01:51:00

What was it meant to be? Just because i'm a kid for you, you feel like you can say everything to me? Wow dude, you are the hero here! And sorry for saying that, i really understand that you feel bad for defending a cheater.

02/08/2009 01:51:00

sry but i go along with faker... thopa was really good admin, but wat he did wasnt fair, i think this decision was right

02/08/2009 01:53:00

lame decision about thopa. give him a fucking chance

02/08/2009 01:54:00

Thopa shouldnt be banned. And about xPaw. If he wrote the plugin for cheating, its fine. But i still dont think thats reason enough to ban him.

02/08/2009 01:55:00

this is just... i`m fucking speechless :| seriously... SPEECHLESS

02/08/2009 01:55:00

i agree about thopa, give him a chance. XJ will change if hes gone!

02/08/2009 01:57:00

Thopa can't be kicked! About xPaw: Maybe he created the plugin to gain 2000 u/s (i saw many posts with coders said they made such plugins). Then he gave for no bad reasons to a friend. The friend recorded a demo. Coder gets banned? Why... kayne should get banned ,not xPaw. Also we want Thopa back. It should be a Poll !

02/08/2009 02:06:00

gj faker

02/08/2009 02:07:00

im 100% agree with faker !!!

02/08/2009 02:16:00

just one thing, wat thopa cooked, that he will eat... Sry thopa

02/08/2009 02:16:00

:O

02/08/2009 02:20:00

sad day :s get a life s1z3 and kayne -.-

02/08/2009 02:24:00

[b]nucLeaR[/b] because xPaw knew that kayne is recording but didn't tell the admins. And for fuck sake guys, thopa is not banned. By crying to get thopa back wont really get him back to the staff - the XJ team has to decide that, you wont change their opinion by saying "pls get back thopa" or so. They also know that thopa was a good admin and etc, so please, stop crying.

02/08/2009 02:27:00

hahaha kayne [u][b]LOL[/b][/u] gj xj admins [blockquote]Note: KeltA's old demo will be restored soon.[/blockquote] Yeah

02/08/2009 02:28:00

let thopa write a statement in 1 or 2 weeks and then decide whether u gonna kick him completely or not cheaters no doubt banned hard

02/08/2009 02:29:00

welcome back clintmo_bhoptoon.

02/08/2009 02:29:00

ye thats true

02/08/2009 02:36:00

itachi it doesnt help, there is no chance xj staff said and we must respect, there is no another way

02/08/2009 02:45:00

Kayne actually got all bad after he got busted, and started to insult his old friends.. Grow up, dude. o.o

02/08/2009 02:49:00

All I can say is that I wasn't expecting this from thopa. But it was his decision, he will have to suffer the concequinces now, and even if he will get a second chance I don't think that he will have the "courage" to accept it because this was a really bad mistake he did. I still can't understand why he did it tho. And about the cheaters, there is nothing to say. They don't even deserve any flame. As for xpaw, as Nikolaa said, he was there specing kayne, knowing that he cheats and didn't come to an admin and tell him about that; yes he deserves a ban. We will all miss you thopa!

02/08/2009 02:50:00

kill your self kayne, go and jump under train or out the window, some fucken retard!!!

02/08/2009 02:55:00

We really miss you thopa :) U were a great admin :)

02/08/2009 02:56:00

I'm not sure that the bhoptoon shortcut isn't possible - in top15 on a public server there is a time of 7,5 secs. And about xPaw.. why was he banned? For creating a plugin? And you say he knew kayne was using it to cheat a demo. How would he know that?

02/08/2009 02:57:00

ahhahaha the 3 sec demo is so ridicoules :D its just like: I JUST HAVE TO GET 3 SECS , EVEN IF IT LOOKS TERRIBLE FAKED! btw: was koukouz involved in this? i mean he was on the srv when kayne did the "sc" and in my opinion he faked suprisement when kayne has done the "sc" :O

02/08/2009 02:58:00

Sorry, just read that he was spectating kayne at that time.

02/08/2009 02:58:00

just sad :( thopa pls come back

02/08/2009 02:59:00

sry it had to end this way thopa, ill miss u <3 pce out kayne lul

02/08/2009 03:01:00

Thopa probably trusted s1z3 just as much as we all did. I knew kayne was BS nt dude nt! Don't taint this wonderful mod with your own egotistical humor. Get a life.

02/08/2009 03:02:00

i do agree with faker`s decission... but maybe thopa being kicked from the staff is a bit too much, after all he has had fps-death since like 2007... if he wanted to leak it...he would have done that long time ago... oh... and about cypress-climbing... i can remember thopa being very happy for that community (i`m not sure tho...thats what i remember) cuz it was another place where people could record at a HIGH LEVEL on non-official maps. maybe thats why he gave s1z3 the fps-admin... he wanted to help i guess... still it would have been better if he would have just asked another admin before giving the program away... for that he does deserve a punishment... oh well... you guys (xj staff) know better what you are having in your backyard (i hope you can understand what i`m trying to say) my post should be considered as an oppinon! thank you. PS: i`ve talked to thopa like 5 times since i`m a member of XJ. he has always been a friendly and also a very helpfull dude. sad to see that his goodness brought this upon him.

02/08/2009 03:07:00

I KNEW IT! i knew that demo had something wrong... that sc is freaking impossible well... i'm always late lol.

02/08/2009 03:07:00

volte LOL, don't think so, kayne would say that because he wants everyone to suffer it if he has to.

02/08/2009 03:25:00

the fact that they were only caught after being as blatant as possible is troubling. cant really look at wrs the same way again

02/08/2009 03:30:00

Thopa you damned Idiot! ;(

02/08/2009 03:37:00

omfg what a problem :/ thopa you fuck it up

02/08/2009 03:57:00

thopa sure did a fatal mistake, but that doesnt give you a right to talk that way like the last 2 comments.

02/08/2009 04:04:00

Yea, even thopa comes back with demo checking, he wouldn't have the feelings he had before for it. So I guess end of demo checking for thopa ;_;

02/08/2009 04:14:00

G1L4rD1n0 , calm down? Its not like he is a muslim bombing the city of paris ...

02/08/2009 04:16:00

kayne busted nice!! thopa:(<3

02/08/2009 04:24:00

tranCyfast, I knew someone like you would say something like that. Read my comment again, what do you see? YES you see a smilie --> ;( <--- Now think about the meaning..... It was said in a more sarcastic way, I liked thopa very much and he was one of the most active and best admins of XJ... That comment was never meant to insult him!

02/08/2009 04:45:00

Shit happens. :( Thopa <3

02/08/2009 05:02:00

no comment.. :/

02/08/2009 05:02:00

wow!! firslt i never liked kayne for lots of reason and size......damn... but thopa..he was only trying to help i guess but since every [b]action[/b] theres a [b]reaction[/b] then i guess he has to be punished...

02/08/2009 05:30:00

<3 thopa you are best !! look this : scR` | 07/30 - 15:56 Comments: 10 Location: Latvia damn, i did 7 sec too next cheater ? lol

02/08/2009 06:03:00

lol kayne your cheat demo new for me

02/08/2009 06:06:00

NOOOO THOPAA NOOOOO

02/08/2009 06:23:00

fuck off kayne ~ like u call me fuck off ^^

02/08/2009 06:31:00

fucking kayne. get thopa back please

02/08/2009 07:03:00

lol jenioz!!

02/08/2009 07:11:00

stupid kayne......

02/08/2009 07:32:00

nice one faker who revealed the secret :D who is the big brain

02/08/2009 08:02:00

xpaw t kB because you didnt say anithing

02/08/2009 08:07:00

omfg..?

02/08/2009 08:28:00

KAYNE DESERVED IT AND I AM VERY VERY HAPPY :) but very sad about xpaw and thopa :\

02/08/2009 08:40:00

yes... it's too bad for thopa but that was his choice.

02/08/2009 08:44:00

thopa <3

02/08/2009 09:04:00

FU retarded cheaters [b] [size=22]I vote for getting thopa second chance because he did tremendous work for XJ and deserves second chance.[/size][/b]

02/08/2009 09:07:00

quote: G1L4rD1n0 , calm down? Its not like he is a muslim bombing the city of paris ... Why do muslim and bomb always have to go in the same sentence? Anyway I understand fakers point of view but I don't think that kicking him out is the solution, I mean it won't fix the problem that he caused. Sentencing a murderer to death won't bring the people he killed back. I'm sure he had his reasons to do it and really trusted that guy and wanted to help, things went wrong and now we see the consecuences but the intentions were always good (I hope). As I said kicking him is not the solution, if he stays I am sure he will keep doing the good job he was making by checking 15+ demos a week, keeping things under control, or whatever it is that he does. By kicking him you will not get your FPS-Death problem fixed and you will have to look for another admin that will make such a good job as thopa was doing and dedicate so much time to this website, which I don't know if you will find so easly. I think that a second chance is deserverd, specially for an -even so harmfull- unintentional error.

02/08/2009 09:17:00

Give thopa second chance!

02/08/2009 09:25:00

Oh, that was painful day to XJ, but this will get us more closer to bright future. :) Seriously, no one would be cheating like iiN or kayne after all „cheater“-posts on main page. But, Faker, you shouldn't ban all cheaters because they just get new accounts on XJ and go to underground. After ban people can easily and uncontrollable do same things but from another person. Yes, cheater can't post demos from same steam-account, but you don't know what he thinking.

02/08/2009 10:09:00

it's just a game.

02/08/2009 10:13:00

Thopa come bacK!

02/08/2009 10:42:00

O NAIS !

02/08/2009 10:53:00

hmm.... maybe u should give thopa another chance?

02/08/2009 11:48:00

What's the matter whether thopa is going to make releases or someone else? What exectly will miss you when he is not banned. He just make releases and i think he is not the only one who can do this.

02/08/2009 11:51:00

Kicking thopa won't solve your FPS-Death problem :(

02/08/2009 12:05:00

ahahah kayne couldn't do his "sc" on kzno_xtremeblock even with 2000 unit boost rofl. p.s. Bye thopa

02/08/2009 12:31:00

kayne raped himself?

02/08/2009 12:39:00

awjkee :D true

02/08/2009 12:42:00

really [color=#000000]bad[/color] news...

02/08/2009 12:52:00

votes of 2008... Admin of the year: thopa Most helpful of the year: thopa

02/08/2009 12:57:00

+1 Dacca. You can`t kick Thopa :(!

02/08/2009 13:01:00

Well, kicking thopa was a very senseless decision. FPSdeath had already been spread all over the world, and nothing can change this, so what's the point in sacking the most active demoadmin? I can't imagine a demorelease w/o thopa sign under it :/

02/08/2009 13:10:00

Thopa is unkickable person ! Hi"s like xj father :)

02/08/2009 13:10:00

s1z3... omg... :/ kayne mydk0

02/08/2009 13:16:00

no comment .....

02/08/2009 13:24:00

amx_kick Thopa Client "Thopa" has immunity

02/08/2009 13:30:00

lol hello communist china

02/08/2009 13:34:00

sad news. Thopa shouldnt be punished imo.. not his fault

02/08/2009 13:37:00

kayne and size are idiots. trying to do anything for abit of fame. thopa imo u were the best admin. i wish u the best of luck..

02/08/2009 13:53:00

sad news... time for a map release

02/08/2009 14:02:00

ehkheh ;]]] good news ! thopa bye.

02/08/2009 14:30:00

Seriously s1z3, I have never trusted you, since we started Cypress-Climbing together I have never trusted you. Kayne, retarded fucker. Come back thopa :(

02/08/2009 14:37:00

lol thopa just remember that u were a great admin, ok you made a mistake but what human doesnt make them.

02/08/2009 14:37:00

come on, everyone deserves a second chance esp THOPA! BRING HIM BACK!

02/08/2009 15:04:00

I'm shocked to see these news, removing thopa from staff... wow. I dont blame admins for doing such desicion, I kinda get it but... It's thopa! I do belive fakers words when he said he didn't want to do this. I have a hard time beliving thopa being removed from xj staff permanently, even though his act was a major fuckup he has gained more trust then he has lost today.

02/08/2009 15:20:00

bring back thopa or lose me

02/08/2009 15:25:00

Funny how you kick the black admin. RACISTS. hi sbz

02/08/2009 15:38:00

i just want to say something to the people saying "bring thopa back" Think of it this way.. Its not easy to check so much demos every week and he did that for a looong time So give the guy a break:)

02/08/2009 15:39:00

thopa o0?

02/08/2009 15:40:00

Thopa really screwed up? I don't think so — this program is easy „googlable“ and nothing can stop speading it not yesterday and not now. Bring back thopa's rights and he never screwed again, you'll see it. Fuck! That's like killing a man when he just gives a knife to killer. Yes, another man kills, but not he, killer will still kill some guys even with a spoon. Please, Faker, you see so many replies in this post, give thopa back his rights just because so many people want to see him back and we don't matter what he did. :) P.S. Thopa you've never screwed up for me and never will be. :( Because you are real good person.

02/08/2009 15:49:00

Sprite, if he want so, why not? ah, is it really matter your race when you are in internet? ._. Thats pathetic even in real life. Average ugly people just wants to be brighter than black guys — and that's the problem, not skin color. Pls stop spreading this shit about racism.

02/08/2009 15:58:00

damn... that's not a nice story dunno what to say about thopa.. i mean i understand fakers point, but kicking/banning him won't help in this situation, will it? he didn't do it on purpose, right? so he won't do anything like that again ? :/ difficult.. really difficult

02/08/2009 16:11:00

What are you guys still talking about? Yes, he hid it on purpose lol... He decided on his own to do NOT care about foreign property (eDarks work), skip the whole policy of XJ (FPS Death only for official national communities) and trust some random guy :( Ofc he knew about our policies that only official communites get protected copies (!!!!) of FPS-Death.. he also knew his account was unlimited and unprotected... and a unique version.... and he still shared it. As I mentioned before... this is unacceptable :(

02/08/2009 16:14:00

Ouch... "owned.", that's how I feel right now ^^ [b]kayne wasn't my friend, I must have talked to him 3 times in my life, but I did supported the fact that he didn't have to reveal how to do [b]"his secret shortcut"[/b], believing that as soon as his demo was accepted, it was legal.[/b] I kinda feel betrayed. I can't understand how and why people can do such things. I don't know, it's not like there was much money to win... About the others, I don't really care to be honest. But what really strikes me is thopa's firing. That's unfortunately like that, but it won't change anything about the fact that I'll always appreciate you, for everything you've done, and for being such a nice and interesting person. It must hurt, but all of this remains internet, and life goes on...

02/08/2009 16:15:00

Face that there are some mistakes that cannot be just forgiven, even in internet. Thopa wanted to help, he just gave fpsdeath to wrong guy and paid for it with his admin position.

02/08/2009 16:23:00

THOPAAA :(

02/08/2009 16:26:00

hi soul

02/08/2009 16:53:00

Thanks for everything. I have no idea how did this - I would have lost motivation after the third release or something.. Anyway, it's a sad ending - but as time passes, people will just remember recognise you as the most friendly and active demoadmin. Period. Now enjoy the freedom of not having to think about checking demos etc. anymore - it MUST have been annoying sometimes :)... No more "RELEASE!!!!" in the chatbox etc.. And to ndR, when something seems too good to be true - it is really not a bad thing to question it ;) Also, I like the new cheater-policy! +1

02/08/2009 16:53:00

damn god,I do hope this world have no such a creature called"Cheaters" esp on kz scene

02/08/2009 17:03:00

God says we shall love our enemys. Now fuck off.

02/08/2009 17:17:00

we love thopa

02/08/2009 17:27:00

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02/08/2009 18:10:00

xpaw has always being a b¤%#H siz3 is a nice person but why cheat? thopa dont give ut private programs, ur on fault dude ;(

02/08/2009 18:20:00

tricky stfu I totaly understand faker, but still its very sad to loost a guy like thopa!

02/08/2009 18:44:00

[b]Wow kayne, you have really done it.. hope your proud of yourself idiot.. thopa has always been the one I go to when I need help with something and he has always been very helpful and kind to me :) He has done an amazing job here on XJ with checking demos (I don't know how often for like 3 years) But he is also a very good friend and a good person, The sad thing is that he only wanted to help cypress-climbing by giving them the admin fps death program. However.. he should have asked someone who was in charge of that before he did it, I agree with that. It's too much to remove him as admin because of that in my opinion. But XJ has spoken and we must all accept that thopa is no longer admin and is no longer XJ's demo releaser. but who knows what the future will bring ?[/b]

02/08/2009 18:59:00

Sad for thopa ... But the fact that is strange to me ,is that you don't detected the cheated demo before realeasing it , it was pretty obvious that there is something strange imo!

02/08/2009 20:26:00

undetectable cheats are possible to make -_- tho the ppl who know how to do it, aren't doing it. GJ on kicking thopa, more work for Mr. internet god aka faker. The only xj admin who I respect was thopa. Does this mean that xj is going down? Wohoo! *pops champagne bottle*

02/08/2009 20:39:00

Bye Thopa...

02/08/2009 20:42:00

SAD XPAW

02/08/2009 21:40:00

lol

02/08/2009 22:20:00

omg :| about kayne.. he deserves to be banned for cheating I don`t know really about xpaw.. only because he created cheatplugin and he didn`t say anything he shouldn`t get banned :) maybe he really doesn`t care about who makes demos with his cheats and submit them as well and about thopa :-s it`s unfortunately what happened. he made a mistake but no one is perfect. I`m sure ~98% of us want him back but as w1zz said I don`t believe that he will come back as an admin even if he will be received back in the crew.. and this because he won`t feel worthy to be in this position again. he knows that he made a (big) mistake.. but we want him back if it`s possible :|

02/08/2009 22:33:00

make a Community-Vote about thopa

02/08/2009 23:00:00

No don't make a community vote, faker has taken a very hard decision and I'm sure he knows why he kicked thopa and I'm also sure it wasn't that easy to do it but he still did so respect his decision.

03/08/2009 04:54:00

If i was thopa i would be glad to get read of releasing rofl :x it must be such a boring thing to do damn , esp with like 10mins+ demos and such. It is'nt sad for thopa at all I mean even if he's not releasing he can still watch demos and such It's a loss for the community I don't think it is a big loss for him. Well know who's gonna be the next slave of releases ? LET'S WISH HIM SOME FUN ! LOL I personnaly love seeing some cheated demos especially when it's obvious I mean when at the end they say like "omg omg omg omg I did it" and say like mass greetings I'm just roflmao. those guys are dumbasses hahaha. Well done XJ.

03/08/2009 12:35:00

Nice Maps ! Good Job to all mapperS ! oO

03/08/2009 12:35:00

OMFG Ive mistake the place to comment r0fl :D

03/08/2009 14:28:00

Sad ending for thopa, you have been around there for a long time and u didn't got what you deserve. We can't judge somebody by just one mistake so I think nobody will blame you.

03/08/2009 15:28:00

make a Community-Vote about thopa :)

03/08/2009 17:34:00

no need to hate faker here, its not like it was an easy decision for him i guess. thopa was a workoholic xj-admin, but edark worked hard on fps death too. its sad but rules are rules at the end. thopa will still be respected as an ex xj-admin and as a good jumper too. and i dont think there will be a voting-poll about this. even i couldnt persuade faker, when i used the wrong plugins in my old giantbean demo, had to do it again. but good luck :D. we need more admins like faker which are hard to break. without him, xj would be a chaos-community.. i think thopa can do now much better things instead of checking demos all the day.

03/08/2009 17:50:00

imo faker is one of the best admins out there but he needs hard working admins like thopa... it will be hard to find a great admin like thopa....

03/08/2009 19:04:00

You improved your english T3d? ;D

04/08/2009 06:18:00

hi, T3d!!

04/08/2009 14:58:00

This have been a very tough decision for faker. Thopa will always be respected, the whole community respects him and everyone is thankfull for his work here at XJ. People seem to think of faker as the bad guy here, now let me remind you that XJ probably wouldn't function anymore without him. He is more of a godfather for modern KZ than Kreedz has ever been. Hi Yohan and Ted :)

04/08/2009 18:51:00

also check out on zylle's wallblock!i think it is ok,but just to be sure :>

05/08/2009 07:52:00

[b]Ahahaha gj Thopa[/b]

12/08/2009 01:07:00

Mmmh... The thing wich is the most pathetic is that xPaw give himself the right to say it was his plugin but it's arkshine one http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=85767 wich was not entended to go till that much units/s untill I modded it to make DeFRAG on Cs1.6! http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=87863&highlight=defrag So I can't understand how peoples give them the property of someone's else works wich was not intended to help peoples cheating! I've always been against the rule that make us give the source code of our plugins! So if you have anyone to blame over this plugin it's me & it was not intended to be used in kz at all since I respect the community and don't want to make any trouble! PS : Kayne you're so dumb... if you wanted you could have gone to 10000u/s....

16/08/2009 16:19:00

exactly as t3d stated, if you're running something which mean much to alot of people, you have to be strict and sure even if it was of his desire to keep thopa, he had to think "eithers it's my friend or this community which ive worked so long for". i would also like to see thopa check demos once in a while but if he would let it slip, alot of other abusive behaviour would occur

17/08/2009 18:11:00

really very nice work, st0ka and qewi for bringing forward proofs.

13/01/2019 17:53:00

never forget