Another newspost about fakedemos and cheating

By faker mapper·
Hey guys,

really a sad day for the kz world and a sort of premiere, in a very negative way though: 2 newsposts about cheater in a row.

I never thought the day would be coming when I have to ban one of out top5 players... named heL^_x.

Apparently he and some other french guys were thinking that spr1n is cheating so desperately, that they decided to create a "undetectable" plugin to make jumpbug and submit a cheated demo themselves. Therefore they created a plugin that had godmode enabled, and did remove the sounds of it... With this plugin you can do a normal duck standup bhop with godmode enabled to imitate a jumpbug. However, it was kinda obvious to see, even without fps-death admin. However, a closer check brought more than enough evidence since this was very easy to detect.

The sad thing is that heL^_x decided to submit this particular cheatdemo to prove XJ incapable of detecting stuff like that... and made a friend of him named H4d3s submit the cheated demo heL^_x recorded. Finding evidence that it was actually heL^_x who recorded that demo was not as easy as detecting the plugin/fake, but in the end we found 100% evidence for that, too.

Cheatdemos:

kz_cg_wigbl0ck_H4d3s_0213 submitted by H4d3s and recorded by heL^_x

Even though this is more than enough sad news for one day, I'm not finished yet.
Obviously this is not the only immature stuff heL^_x has been doing so far... Some guys mentioned their suspicion that he might was recording some demos for his close friend elfeN, so we compared "elfeN's" streetbl0ck demo to heL's old streetbl0ck demo and some other demos of heL and elfeN submitted and made for kzfr and found out that it was indeed heL^_x who recorded that demo for elfeN.

A little note to the admins from kzfr: kz_rd_giganticwall_elfeN_0654, which was submitted to your site, was recorded by heL^_x and not by elfeN as well.

Fakedemo:

kz_streetbl0ck_elfeN_0417 submitted by elfeN and recorded by heL^_x

All involved players got punished according to the rules.

Note: I want to throw out a big thanks to w1zz and MepH who where more than helpful in this investigation.

Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. There might be another sad newspost soon.

Note³: heL^_x wrote a statement about the situation. You can read it in the extended newspost.

Last note: After having an internal discussion about this case, talking to him and reviewing his statement, we came to the following conclusion: It's not possible to tell whether heL^_x really wanted to submit that demo. He recorded a demo with a fakenick before (streetbl0ck in elfeN's name), therefore it's impossible to know whether h4d3s sent the wigbl0ck demo with or without heL^_x's agreement. However we agreed to change the (6months) permanent ban (and chance to write an essay to get unbanned) to a 6 months time, since heL^_x already explained hisself in his statement and already showed that he is sorry in a private conversation.

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19/12/2009 17:17:00

heL your still the best , gl in reallife :]

19/12/2009 17:19:00

hel just wanted to quit obviously

19/12/2009 17:20:00

hel so sad... StormZz i want to have sex with your avril!!!

19/12/2009 17:21:00

Was pretty easy to see that he wasnt doing real jb's in this demo :). Didn't know about the elfen demos though :o. Either way heL is and was a very skilled jumper. hf irl.

19/12/2009 17:23:00

nice!

19/12/2009 17:23:00

i cant download the demos The requested URL /demos/haxx/kz_cg_wigbl0ck_H4d3s_0213.rar was not found on this server. :(

19/12/2009 17:23:00

Lol'd at such try to fake.

19/12/2009 17:23:00

haha :D

19/12/2009 17:24:00

Speechless. This is f&@^$d up.

19/12/2009 17:24:00

seiler but all u get is komaschelle

19/12/2009 17:25:00

just as faker said, heL is like tarGet, really skilled but he messed around with stupid stuff and got busted :\./ Btw, it was pretty obvious to notice that heL jumped in that streetbl0ck wr; his style and 2ndly, noone could beat that demo, and there's a guy, who lives in the same city with him, near to him, a good friend, that beats his demo by 7 seconds, let's be serious ... and was pretty ez to figure out that heL jumped in the giganticwall demo aswell, his STYLE is unique.

19/12/2009 17:26:00

schosen all u get is nackenschelle

19/12/2009 17:26:00

bye heL.

19/12/2009 17:27:00

LAUGHING MY ASS OFF? =D

19/12/2009 17:27:00

wtf oO

19/12/2009 17:27:00

hahahahhaahhahhahaahahahahahahah

19/12/2009 17:28:00

what for news ... omg....

19/12/2009 17:30:00

how to download wigbl0ck cheated?

19/12/2009 17:30:00

hel nub, bai

19/12/2009 17:31:00

rofl-_-

19/12/2009 17:31:00

sad

19/12/2009 17:35:00

KZ gonna die (hopefully not). LMAO too.

19/12/2009 17:35:00

OMFG

19/12/2009 17:35:00

i knew it long time ago haha :D

19/12/2009 17:36:00

Way to go heL, mah boi.

19/12/2009 17:37:00

bann pruno!! (lie D:)

19/12/2009 17:38:00

Cmon! I want the third cheater newspost in a row! Hat trick ftw!

19/12/2009 17:38:00

[quote=pruno] i knew it long time ago haha[/quote] Nice pruno... what a self own. do you know that you could get warned or banned for that? ;)

19/12/2009 17:38:00

DL links fixed.

19/12/2009 17:40:00

:FACEPALM: :SPOCK:

19/12/2009 17:42:00

gewtchop for teh bust

19/12/2009 17:42:00

jajajaja

19/12/2009 17:43:00

gj wiz, edark and MepH

19/12/2009 17:43:00

BAEM!!! good job faker. Keep things on going.

19/12/2009 17:44:00

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA XDDDD <3 iLLo elfeN & hel XD

19/12/2009 17:44:00

Chrizzo it was so easy to see hel's style in elfen's demo.. -_-'

19/12/2009 17:45:00

:-(

19/12/2009 17:46:00

http://sadamaza-hel-is-crazy.pastebin.com/d142aad65 Check this out aswell, to see how smart your boy heL was.

19/12/2009 17:47:00

disappointing news

19/12/2009 17:49:00

it's not hel it's illo make the cheated demo hahahha noobard

19/12/2009 17:49:00

it's me balu_ on his server bande de gros con ptdr

19/12/2009 17:50:00

Np_O you should get banned aswell so it would be better if you wouldn't comment :\. And I think you know why you should get banned.

19/12/2009 17:50:00

btw its funny how xj never gives proof just plain text so dissapointing :)

19/12/2009 17:50:00

and he make a jb not a pluging OMFG -.-

19/12/2009 17:52:00

akkord the demo itself is proof. Just look at how his jbs look and how they sound, and check spr1n's demo to see how a real jb looks and sounds. It's a huge difference.

19/12/2009 17:52:00

LOL @ hel

19/12/2009 17:53:00

fail. go to record demos and there is kz_streetbl0ck hel^_x 0423 but its 24.. bad english hope u understand

19/12/2009 17:53:00

WHAT FOR ?!!!!!! helx it's pro . what for banned him? better only H4d3s and elfen. ......

19/12/2009 17:54:00

French humor ! :D :$

19/12/2009 17:54:00

And if you need some more evidence, check this demo(http://www.sendspace.com/file/l949mg), where heL is making 9 "jbs" in a row, check the way he lands at the moment of the jb and the way it sounds, and check this demo aswell(http://www.sendspace.com/file/koc9ua) where I do a jb from the same position as him and see the difference. And there is no way that a after executing a jb you will get prestrafe information from the plugin, because it's like you don't touch the ground.

19/12/2009 17:54:00

lol @ conversation

19/12/2009 17:55:00

heL^_x gl @Admins who detected this - you detected elfeN's demo by steamid of hel or wut? or some another parameters

19/12/2009 17:56:00

im not talking about this news i mean it in general

19/12/2009 17:56:00

haha low

19/12/2009 17:57:00

fkn cheaters. gtfo!!!

19/12/2009 17:58:00

Oh Jungens ... wieso müsst ihr hier alle immer rumcheaten ?

19/12/2009 17:58:00

I can tell you guys, i am on hel's side this time. He was obviously trying to find out the way how spr1n was (MAYBE) cheating or make a little joke. Well, he got banned :\ And about "elfeN's demo" - it proves that hel is a kind person who really doesn't care if WR belongs to him or not. Bye hel, good luck in real life/other games :) Remember that your style was always inspiration for my climbing

19/12/2009 17:58:00

Didn't expect this from heL.

19/12/2009 17:59:00

kielor: There are many ways to check it. First of all the config files are saved in the demo as well, so you can compare different settings, you can see the cpu, fsb (frontsidebus), sensitivity, mousespeed (therfore compare the strafes) and so on.

19/12/2009 17:59:00

that was really nice Hatari, your humor is astonishing.

19/12/2009 18:00:00

Np_O had the same "cheat", even if its possible to call it cheat, just a godmode.. he posted a video in chatbox, about his random jbs, and it was clearly seen what it was fake. And yea lol at my convo

19/12/2009 18:00:00

gj staff and kb the sochori hel

19/12/2009 18:02:00

u suck.

19/12/2009 18:05:00

sad news

19/12/2009 18:06:00

Really sad!

19/12/2009 18:08:00

i think hel should get another chance like target did

19/12/2009 18:09:00

sad.. heL was always my favourite player and never though he would try to cheat.. and even under a fakename.

19/12/2009 18:09:00

its pretty obvious he didnt do any jb in wigbl0ck HAHAHA very fun

19/12/2009 18:09:00

hel quited. hel should get banned.

19/12/2009 18:10:00

lāl even cheated run was a perect, except Jb's :D cause thery cheated

19/12/2009 18:11:00

heL T_T

19/12/2009 18:11:00

HAHA LOL :D

19/12/2009 18:12:00

sadface

19/12/2009 18:13:00

omg!

19/12/2009 18:14:00

lol,Am I dreaming?

19/12/2009 18:16:00

cheators - too people. To use cheats, and to remain unpunished it too demands skill. hel is the good fellow. Gallant And you rejoice that have created such feat. Have found out someone. ahahhaha. Now you should put a monument. ahahahha hel respect :D

19/12/2009 18:18:00

no just spamming in news thread

19/12/2009 18:20:00

also, helx should've been banned @ all those who say just h4d3s and elfen, it should be all 3 and it was cuz all 3 contributed to cheat

19/12/2009 18:22:00

and tbh, using cheats just because you know you're going to quit is lame as hell.. as lame as killing lots of people just because you know you're going to die in few weeks lol. but yeah, good luck in real life!

19/12/2009 18:22:00

Hilarious

19/12/2009 18:24:00

heL is still the best...

19/12/2009 18:27:00

Guini said gj staff and kb the sochori hel XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOL

19/12/2009 18:27:00

heL will always be my nr.1 jumper!, hes jumpstyle are so damn sexy and unique!!! glhf IRL since u obviously wanted to quit kz, just so sad it had to be this way :(( <333

19/12/2009 18:29:00

HEL^_x cheated? HEL^_x help his friends with fake demo? don't know ENG ...

19/12/2009 18:32:00

that's really sad, I didn't expect this from heL. I think it was the way he wanted to finish his kreedz career. Anyway, good luck in the future! :)

19/12/2009 18:34:00

LOL, i knew for a long time that heL made streeblock demo for elfeN... => http://xtreme-jumps.eu/comment.php?comment.news.1126 (look at first comments) But it's rly sad that he submitted a cheated demo...

19/12/2009 18:35:00

oh my god. i've never thought a top 5 player would do something like this. and then again some new plugins where only created for cheating. god damn it, you cheaters cause so freakin much work for the admins. in future releases thousands of things have to be checked only because there are people trying to proove that there are undetectable cheats or whatever. thumps down, seriously. i've visiting this page for over 4,5 years now and it's amazing to see people getting more and more shameless from time to time(only to have their names on this page). big respect to the admins who spend so extremely much time in analysing demos and consequentely detecting cheaters. thumbs up :) you deserve more then "only" these "good job"..

19/12/2009 18:40:00

lol :D :D heL is very stupid really :X

19/12/2009 18:41:00

LOL ! hope they remove lj page :D

19/12/2009 18:42:00

gj admins, w1zz and Meph. unfortunately, I am waiting for another sad newspost. :(

19/12/2009 18:46:00

omg! what this world is coming to! :( good job, admins.

19/12/2009 18:46:00

i cant watch his "cheat demo". Blockmaker models.

19/12/2009 18:47:00

I lol'd at your comment opa... It's not about that you don't care if a demo belongs to you or a friend... It's about following the rules and making the right thing, and ye I know it's cool to break the rules, and all the cool kids do it. If it was legit to do such a thing, trust me, I and probably like all the other recorders could make a demo for a friend or just a random dude here on the web.

19/12/2009 18:48:00

zhady can you record a demo for me? thanks.

19/12/2009 18:51:00

lol looks like many ppl doesn`t understand why hel cheated ? He is trying to proove that spr1n is cheating... not sure about spr1n i don`t think spr1n is cheating ...

19/12/2009 18:52:00

fcuk heL was my favourite player and still will be, this lame shit with fake accounts makes him kiddo in my eyes but doesn't go down as a pro player with astonishing style <3

19/12/2009 18:53:00

i have nothing to say.

19/12/2009 18:57:00

hahaha all of sKiCg's demos were recorded by myself XAXAXAXD

19/12/2009 18:59:00

and all of mgD`s and shNz`s demos was recorded by me obviously... How the hell didn`t you recognize my style in these demos ^^ :D

19/12/2009 19:01:00

100 comments so far. Who's next?

19/12/2009 19:02:00

bey0nd - true heL wants to say thats perfect jb when you fall is possible - he prove it to the all jump communty Maybe, just maybe he leaves kz becouse hi see to many cheaters in XJ impossible is possible <3 HEL^_x spr1n noob :D

19/12/2009 19:03:00

hel respect, I hope you are not banned in vain and spr1n will still ever been banned ...

19/12/2009 19:06:00

omg hel :/

19/12/2009 19:08:00

='(

19/12/2009 19:12:00

naft, what's your point about spr1n ? After all this you still think he's cheating? He would've been caught until now. And yes, heL was my favourite jumper aswell, but now I will only look at him as a retired player,that was good, cause his gesture was really for a 10 years old guy, not far away from kayne's. How can you want to retire in this way? As you have seen he didn't record for some time, why would he let us know now that he left kz, and CHEAT, cause that's what most of you don't understand, he didn't even do a demo for a friend, and he didn't want to prove spr1n cheats, because it's very very clear that there is a HUGE difference between the jbs that heL made and the ones from spr1n's demo. But whatever take it as you want, he was an uber player, but still a kid.

19/12/2009 19:15:00

it was so stupid and kinda childish ... rules for every one hel you or not but hel was my fauvor goodluck little guy spr1n i think its time to make a handshow for public, but realy i dont care if you can make several jb in a row its meen you can do it in a cam

19/12/2009 19:15:00

he didn't only* do a demo for a friend.

19/12/2009 19:16:00

WHAT THE heL^_x ?!?!

19/12/2009 19:17:00

it is not necessarily necessary it was perm

19/12/2009 19:17:00

haha this cheated demo, even though it wasnt for a bad reason, obviously showed that you were expecting a perm ban. streetblock, you suck

19/12/2009 19:20:00

lol i have never thouth about hel cheating

19/12/2009 19:20:00

HAHAHA! spr1n makes other guys cheating

19/12/2009 19:21:00

really sad news :(:(:( i really like hel's style... sad

19/12/2009 19:21:00

permanently?

19/12/2009 19:21:00

i must say it i luz @

19/12/2009 19:24:00

yes

19/12/2009 19:24:00

:D i lold

19/12/2009 19:25:00

this is pretty funny :)

19/12/2009 19:31:00

HEL ... A LEGEND !

19/12/2009 19:36:00

koukouz you can't be the best even now when hel is gone so stfu

19/12/2009 19:37:00

I guess 90% of xj had heard rumors that elfen's streetbl0ck was recorded by hel^_x. i don't really think that a player who got to his level would want to leave as a cheater even if he was going to quit. Still think he is a great player :) "Pro5 is only for the quantity of demos not quality of the player, it could've been anyone."

19/12/2009 19:38:00

that really sucks tho i'm glad that hel just did some kiddy stuff and his skills are "f0 real"

19/12/2009 19:41:00

haha damn , many surprices b4 xmas :D wonder what comes next..

19/12/2009 19:43:00

nooooooo heL noooooo! who's going to pwn kunqui demos now? :(

19/12/2009 19:43:00

hel nubed

19/12/2009 19:46:00

streetblock was a good demo too

19/12/2009 19:49:00

@faker you should check Lolz too cause he's also good friend with heL^_x esp kz_kzse_toonworld_Lolz_0235 maybe hel recorded his records too!! sad cause i liked heL^_x's style, my favorite jumper!

19/12/2009 19:52:00

Zidane copycat.

19/12/2009 19:53:00

jajaja

19/12/2009 19:53:00

he didnt want to get banned, he tried to get past the secruity and failed -_-

19/12/2009 19:57:00

heL^_x is the MAN... Waiting your comeback

19/12/2009 20:02:00

lamentably

19/12/2009 20:04:00

:D :D :D

19/12/2009 20:06:00

"and all of mgD`s and shNz`s demos was recorded by me obviously... How the hell didn`t you recognize my style in these demos ^^" hahaha lol bey0nd :D

19/12/2009 20:08:00

admins are doing wrong here he was, no.. he IS the most talanted jumper in kz history, and if it's true that it's not his submission of wigblock, then it's XJ failX2.. permaban of such a good player just for 1 demo recorded with another nickname? very nice... want it or not, but here comes a memories of target's case, when he broke the rules, but there two little differences in that two cases.. target got 2 or 3 (don't remember) months of ban for CHEATING, and hel got this permaban for recording clean demo with other nickname? ok, xj stuff, -respect for that... THAT'S JUST MY IMHO, DON'T JUDGE ME PLZ, THXBAI

19/12/2009 20:12:00

lol, if HeL didnt even submit those demos, and didnt want to submit them, i think it a big fail from xj, but ofc, that he recorded a demo for his friend is not legal so ofc, thats fair with a kind of punishment, but anyway i think HeL dont care, when hes going to quit anyway

19/12/2009 20:16:00

sad french day!

19/12/2009 20:17:00

xD hel bye and glhf

19/12/2009 20:18:00

French community soiled by kids... so sad...

19/12/2009 20:19:00

i dont belive a shit of his statement.

19/12/2009 20:21:00

Real fucking sad news.

19/12/2009 20:24:00

For me is perm ban overreaction in this case.

19/12/2009 20:26:00

Ev! What... Can you read? He cheated.

19/12/2009 20:31:00

People cheated in the past and after a statement their ban was reduced...let's see if it will happen in heL^_x case.

19/12/2009 20:33:00

can YOU read? he recorded 1 cheated wich he didn't submit.. I believe in his words @ statement, and even if it's not true they should punish demosubmitter, not hel, untill he would say "yes, I wanted that demo be submited"

19/12/2009 20:36:00

NAIS

19/12/2009 20:40:00

w1zz ?????????????????? you here recently? when are all cheaters are identified quickly? I do not wish to offend administration, they do everything that can... bad engl, sorry =(

19/12/2009 20:42:00

Yup you're right !! maybe in the future we can just blame the guy who sold the gun,not the one who used it =D... how can you believe in his statement if there isn't one yet? guess you know something i don't. he broke the rules twice and is being punished for it. Ev! if you're comment was directed to me ,yes i can read even though english isn't my first language :) if it wasn't well just a misunderstanding.

19/12/2009 20:46:00

Akl, if u take a good look, its updated with his statement in extended newspost :)

19/12/2009 20:49:00

koukoz you suck hard nobody likes you you stink and don't have friends kill yourself with a dildo :) Sad for heL he was the best i wish just hel's ban not to be perm

19/12/2009 20:50:00

missed it my bad :s

19/12/2009 20:51:00

just like niken said, and it wasn't directed to you, so I don't care about your 1st language and about gun - stupid comparing... don't you ever try cheats? slowmo,bhopscript,ljscript or whatever just 4fun? and if some1 would upload that demo u should be punished?

19/12/2009 20:52:00

well zhady, you're right ;) anyway i guess you understand what i've meant

19/12/2009 20:54:00

Nah Akl, you gave me a cheap laugh :)

19/12/2009 20:56:00

maybe i should've said that only the one who creates the cheat is banned and not the one who used it better? If the demo wasn't uploaded to xj in hel's account he doesn't have to be punished imo. sh*t happens deal with it... ("Admins are always right") in rules page,if you want to contest it be my guest.

19/12/2009 21:04:00

These guys getting chance to do an essay and by that getting second chance?

19/12/2009 21:06:00

French skill :D We are proud of you.

19/12/2009 21:11:00

i don't think that administration (i really don't know how many guys are in there ) should decide will he get perm or some months of ban... let the record holders and other active people on this site this is not for perm..just look at the black list and hel name beetween these stupid nicknames ccc he has best style ever (after brian :P:P ) kthxbye

19/12/2009 21:23:00

osvetN1k you're suggesting a poll for the members to vote how long the ban will be?

19/12/2009 21:33:00

akkord understood it all. btw +1 hel, I were watching elfeN when he was still training on gigantic wall for the wr, but then he just had the french record.. GL in real life hel, very nice quit btw, never thought u could get a xj news for your leave :).

19/12/2009 21:36:00

that's really sad, I didn't expect this from heL. I think it was the way he wanted to finish his kreedz career. Anyway, good luck in the future! 2

19/12/2009 21:38:00

Tragedy egg. Add virgin pain

19/12/2009 21:42:00

nubz pwnedd

19/12/2009 21:56:00

how to shot web?

19/12/2009 21:56:00

"Tragedy egg. Add virgin pain" Doubt anyone could say it better, /thread.

19/12/2009 22:02:00

omg , hell we'll miss you . Bye bye xD

19/12/2009 22:11:00

heL, okay, you didn't submit it to XJ, it was iLLo, why did you submit the demo to kzfr then? Any of his friends, try to get an answer from him and post it here, I would like to hear an excuse for that one.

19/12/2009 22:14:00

Lolled at the "jb's". Oh and I really didn't expect this kind of a move from someone as skilled as hel... Once again, awesome fucking job XJ + w1zz and MepH.

19/12/2009 22:21:00

w8 so admins mean, if some1 wants to do like a 255 slowmo just for fun then ur friend submit it and i get banned? that dosnt make anysence, and that proofs that xj has no overview where the demos come from :S

19/12/2009 22:26:00

heL leaves = cs loses :( gl in real :(

19/12/2009 22:29:00

Never though this joke would take this proportion... But who care about this...

19/12/2009 22:31:00

"Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. [b]There might be another sad newspost soo[/b]n." waiting for that, btw gl heL

19/12/2009 22:31:00

lol NFS? Why the fuck should someone make a demo with slowmo and then share it? If you want to jump with slowmo "for fun", then you don't make demos and you don't share them either.

19/12/2009 22:31:00

"Finding evidence that it was actually heL^_x who recorded that demo was not as easy as detecting the plugin/fake, but in the end we found 100% evidence for that, too." Soz for doubleposting but can you show us the evidence if there's one?

19/12/2009 22:47:00

anny0: http://i49.tinypic.com/24meufq.png Now lets copy it (76561197987145268), and visit steamcommunity http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987145268

19/12/2009 22:58:00

RemaKe to be frank "why the fuck would anyone do that" isn't a very good argument, someone might be drunk or simply a moron. NFS I'd say the same thing if I was in heL's place so why would we trust him? If someone works that hard just to make himself amused "whee I beated a wr but not really" and even kills himself in the end like you'd do in a wr demo I don't think there should be must trust given to the jumper himself. That's my opinion.

19/12/2009 22:59:00

bad news , but life goes on:D

19/12/2009 23:01:00

unban hel_x he would never send a cheted demo's

19/12/2009 23:03:00

he did send it to kzfr himself tho ..

19/12/2009 23:04:00

btw xpaw. what it does? shoes that recorder was l33t, and l33t is hel_x .. but but? he did send the demo

19/12/2009 23:07:00

I just showed what heL recorded the demo..

19/12/2009 23:07:00

hel idiot

19/12/2009 23:07:00

fuck heads, can't you understand that hel is someone normal who needs fun sometimes in his life or smth ? lol who never cheated on smth with friends for fun ? wanna know truth ? Kzfr is so weird these days that hel just wanted to have fun kidding them, that's all.. Stop fucking saying that hel is someone fucking serious and all these kind of stuff, no one is serious. just accept it, hel isn't your hero anymore. wtf about fucking the jobs ? fuck head.

19/12/2009 23:08:00

If you use slowmotion FOR FUN you don't record demos of it and even less you give them to somebody.. in this case, I guess heL got clear plan for submiting this demo.

19/12/2009 23:10:00

xpaw but his statement says, that he was recording , so no need to worry about, the bad is that his friends submitted his demo, i think anyone had tested what is slowmo or smth like that.. but no friend had sent your demo to XJ, so yeah

19/12/2009 23:11:00

mxml, your reaction is not really cool. Lolz tried to have some fun with the kz_facility situation if you remember, why are french guys so funny?

19/12/2009 23:17:00

gj xj

19/12/2009 23:22:00

I LOVE HEL

19/12/2009 23:31:00

hel gl. we rly gonna miss ya. :) <3

19/12/2009 23:33:00

ev! although i wouldn't mind seeing hel back in action (who doesn't love his style?) the quality of the player cannot determine his punishment. i definitely don't agree with a perm ban though, a few months like the other 3 involved seems much more fair.

19/12/2009 23:34:00

[blockquote]Statement by heL^_x: ... [b]i don't think that spr1n cheated[/b] in his demo, but i don't belive u can make 3jb in arow..[/blockquote] [blockquote]21:57 - 'xpaω: what youre talking about 21:57 - l33t: it's impossible to make 3jb 21:57 - l33t: CHEAT CHEAT 21:58 - l33t: [b]spr1n is cheating[/b] 21:58 - 'xpaω: calm down little boy 21:58 - l33t: and i'll prove it 21:58 - 'xpaω: Okay 21:58 - 'xpaω: good luck 21:58 - l33t: ty[/blockquote] *confused

19/12/2009 23:37:00

spr1n I caught that too and also the first sentence if a but fuzzy: "i don't think that spr1n cheated" -> "i don't belive u can make 3jb in arow.."

20/12/2009 00:03:00

crying

Sokta
20/12/2009 00:13:00

I guess his still the best.

20/12/2009 00:18:00

Hel.... GL = Good Life !

20/12/2009 00:22:00

serious.

20/12/2009 00:31:00

frenchkiss

20/12/2009 00:55:00

same as tarGet?

20/12/2009 01:27:00

:/ so bad :(

20/12/2009 01:32:00

I think heL doesn't deserves a permanent ban, just a 2~3 months will be ok

20/12/2009 01:44:00

Ev, you stupid? He recorded a cheatdemo with intention. Moreover, he was one of the initiators...

20/12/2009 01:47:00

ok, thxbye, tardie

20/12/2009 01:56:00

Lol'd hard.

20/12/2009 02:41:00

[blockquote]Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. There might be another sad newspost soon.[/blockquote] C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! heL^_x still was, is and will be one of my favourite jumpers. He (in comparison with some of you guys) was just having fun @ KreedZ jumping. And that is what KZ is all about. But... sending (or asking other person to send in) a cheatdemo to XJ was pretty stupid. Waiting for next sad newspost & mapsubmitting rule update newspost.

20/12/2009 03:24:00

Never saw this coming at all, sad thing to hear, shows that if you "cheat" or whatever he was trying to do, you get caught and punished, no matter who you are it doesnt matter. Simple as that dont "cheat", submit fake demos, whoever did it. Theres gonna be a punishment.

20/12/2009 05:30:00

@H@H@@H@H@H@H@H@H vot mydak ebaniy , trololo

20/12/2009 05:58:00

heh))

20/12/2009 07:08:00

good job ;)

20/12/2009 07:26:00

hel did wrong things! But I agree with his thoughts Many people use different modes of Cheating Some will be found in Some will always be a secret

20/12/2009 08:02:00

my idol died in kreedz :(

20/12/2009 08:10:00

hel,GJ!you are the best

20/12/2009 09:01:00

why its written cheatdemos while its only 1 ??? its little retarded

20/12/2009 09:11:00

yYy.Je whats wrong with you?! stupid kid =\

20/12/2009 09:20:00

there is no perfect lie or cheating in this small world. I love heL^_x and I still don't understand that if he needs to record fake demos. Because if he wants to make a new wr demo, he can make it with even smaller efforts than other jumpers. His sexy jumping style will be missed by everyone. GL heL^_x.

20/12/2009 09:29:00

delete all hel-x demos ! and peace :D

20/12/2009 09:41:00

Lol hahaha never expected that one haahahah xDD

20/12/2009 09:44:00

why delete all his demos if he didn't submit any cheat demo? and all of his demos are clean... there are no stupid comments, just stupid people.

20/12/2009 09:48:00

hel ;/

20/12/2009 10:11:00

What you guys aren't understanding, is that KZ is something, basically, made for FUN. For amusing people. You went sooooo far in this "game" that now, you can't escape your little "recorder" world. You guys are only climbing to RECORD. To have a demo on XJ or whatever is your country. Hel sure recorded smth bad, but hey, he wasn't purposing to send it lol ? Atleast not there, he just sended it on a fucked die website where admins don't even check demos anymore. And so ? if hel really wanted to cheat crazily, he would have get a slowmo or smth, not a fucking badhead plugin that is so obvious, don't u think so ? He isn't as dumb as you can think :\. Anyway the demo was accepted on KZFR and further was deleted because the time was lower than the WR time. What a great community. GJ.

20/12/2009 10:13:00

permban for something he didn't submit is just... although he should be banned for 2 weeks or w/e it is for recording for his friend. i've read the rules but cant remember if youre allowed or not allowed to record for someone else (if it states that clearly)

20/12/2009 10:26:00

Ggs`, +1, it's not allowed to say such things

20/12/2009 10:30:00

very sad news :( gl & hf irl

20/12/2009 11:37:00

btw $iw and Tess had a 2nd chance eventho they submitted the demos by themselves, iiN aswell. Hel didnt submit anything and he's perm? heh lol, just give him another chance wtf

20/12/2009 11:41:00

aftermatch just made the xj admins type gg

20/12/2009 11:45:00

[left]unban hel![/left]

20/12/2009 11:48:00

Good luck, Hel! Have a nice time, then immediately go back to us and make some crazy stuff!

20/12/2009 11:50:00

word to aftermatch, but i think hel should be banned for like 1-2 months for the friend-demo thing. The cheated demo should be maybe som extra little punishment because you dont know if he wanted to submit it or if it was like he said, and the rest of his wrs wasnt cheated so you should not give him permban for something he didnt submit. Give him something between 1-3 months and dont remove his other wrs imo.

20/12/2009 11:56:00

tardie? As Hazard would say, you just don't want to see the facts.

20/12/2009 12:04:00

Pravda za heL-a!!! Brankice kurvo 8|

20/12/2009 12:19:00

nope, it's just u, stupid hater.. u can't understand rly obvious things, bad for you just read maximalz last post, totally agree with him

20/12/2009 12:28:00

hahaha you take this game soooooooooooooo serious men :D it's just a joke and A GAME ! if you're life is kz... you're so stupid, social life is better ><

20/12/2009 12:31:00

[quote]GL in real life hel, very nice quit btw, never thought u could get a xj news for your leave .[/quote] Not exactly the most glamorous way to leave :D [quote]hel should be banned for like 1-2 months for the friend-demo thing[/quote] [quote]although he should be banned for 2 weeks or w/e it is for recording for his friend.[/quote] [quote]I think heL doesn't deserves a permanent ban, just a 2~3 months will be ok[/quote] I'm pretty sure recording a fakedemo is 6 months. That plus the cheated demo... Well I don't know. [quote]What you guys aren't understanding, is that KZ is something, basically, made for FUN. For amusing people. You went sooooo far in this "game" that now, you can't escape your little "recorder" world. You guys are only climbing to RECORD. To have a demo on XJ or whatever is your country.[/quote] True, this is the only way the community can grow. It's not fun either to make cheated demos or demos for other. Just because KZ isn't your life doesn't mean it isn't some other people's life!

20/12/2009 12:39:00

hah

20/12/2009 12:39:00

spr1n could you tell me thegirl's name in your pic ?

20/12/2009 12:40:00

dont so serious so

20/12/2009 13:51:00

hey faker and wizz, you actually did a good job in making hel look bad, im impressed!!!

20/12/2009 13:52:00

HEL LOWARA hahahaahh

20/12/2009 13:58:00

Rofl Ewoud that's the stupidest comment yet... Yeah faker and wizz were here to try and put a stamp: "fucktard" on hel's forehead. But I guess you wanted to see such skilled jumper get away with the stupid thing he did? I do like heL and I can't believe he was so stupid to do anything like this but due to the fact that he DID this newspost was 100% correct and needed. For the perm ban stuff: can't remember anyone not being permed the moment they are "busted" but after a while case is re-evaluated and given a new perspective. So don't worry yet.

20/12/2009 14:22:00

he allready said he has left kz, did you think that maybe he doesn't even care about the permanent ban ? And no I didn't want to make him look bad, because he was my favourite jumper, why would I want to do that? I just don't think it's fair, especially the part with elfeN's demo.

20/12/2009 14:28:00

He was also one of my favorite jumpers, I really loved his style, and I did tell him that several time, so he knows that. However, that doesn't put him anywhere above the rules and he has to be punished just like any other user who would have done that. Also... yes, he says he didn't want to submit it. But how are we expected to know he says the truth now? That story with "elfeN's" streetbl0ck doesn't make him exactly very trustworthy... Anyway, we are currently having a look into his bantime in an internal discussion. P.S: Did you all miss the latest rulesupdate? Permban is not forever anymore... People can try to get ther permban removed after 6 months by writing an essay stating why it was wrong what they did.

20/12/2009 14:51:00

cu hel

20/12/2009 14:57:00

omg he did streetbl0ck with other nick and took his own record so whats the problem? :/

20/12/2009 15:06:00

Ye, add a rule, taking your own demos with other nicks is fine.

20/12/2009 15:14:00

I can understand heL's comment tho. Hopefully noone will think that heL has cheated in the future, just because he did not read this newspost carefully. Since it's named cheating and fakedemos. I know that hel always wanted to work together with XJ to help the community. I just can not understand the move with elfen. Don't know hel, but this was a bit narrow-minded and you know that. Anyways, when you are unbanned in some months you are hopefully a part of this community once again. Once again a very famous and nice player, who was the inspiration and attraction for many new players, has destroyed hisself. I really do not wonder why people loose the interestet in this kreedz world.

20/12/2009 15:18:00

The best comment here, was last pruno's comment ;D That is what I would really called[b]SAD[/b] (mean kz life) Most of cs 1.6 players are kid atm... Kids are doing allmost anytime mistakes, so just don't speak about hel, ban him for some time and the problem solved. :D

20/12/2009 15:45:00

maybe i guess hel did it just for fun. it's just games .why u guys take it so seriously? if he wants to leave just let go ,he won't care if he's banned or not . anyway, enjoy the games is the purpose of gaming maybe . but the xtreme-jumps community has it special system of recorcd,everyone who participate in the game do want a wr ,so some guys try to do somthing fake ,that would be fucking disgusting.

20/12/2009 15:45:00

if noone would've punished for our mistakes we will repeat them again and we will continue to be immature by repeating the mistakes. Better for hel: don't lie , just try to solve this problem. GJ XJ for finding that hel did what he did and he deserves the ban even he is very pr0 and whatever.

20/12/2009 15:59:00

I needdd to SEE " THE JB x 3 in run, spr1n HANDshow "

20/12/2009 16:07:00

handshows prove nothing, you can playback a demo and randomly press buttons and move your mouse.

20/12/2009 16:27:00

That's good because, he stole brian records. :))))

20/12/2009 16:55:00

That was just heLarious! :)

20/12/2009 16:58:00

so bad

20/12/2009 17:33:00

Hel break his own record with another nick,what's the problem

20/12/2009 17:57:00

hilarious? hahah @dididada stop being so naive plz.. open ur eyes.. do you believe in his statement? LOL

20/12/2009 18:09:00

flibo : "It's not fun either to make cheated demos or demos for other" @How much did u get for bhop hack ??

20/12/2009 18:47:00

Cmon, give me a panda.

20/12/2009 19:00:00

kyser wTF?? who are you? please insect, follow moderating the crappy kz-arg fagg

20/12/2009 19:05:00

rofl :D

20/12/2009 19:27:00

warcry GG okeiiii

20/12/2009 19:39:00

That's the spirit! Keep going, you are doing great!

20/12/2009 20:28:00

For the people who came to a point in life where they say" hel is my IDOLl", What the buck o.O how can you call a video gamer your IDOL -.-' that's retarded , And stop kissing his ass, maybe he was good, but he made mistakes. everyone must pay for their mistakes !!! Kreedz is just a fun game where you can relax jumping when you get bored of real CS. Some people got this hole idea of game wrong. GEEKS :D

20/12/2009 21:06:00

"how can you call a video gamer your IDOL -.-' that's retarded" lol there was just 1 guy who said that anyways, the point is that he is the best or 1 of the best in kreedz, not that's kreedz is everything and let's pray on top5 players, and u're kinda stupid if u can't understand what ppl are talking about "Kreedz is just a fun game where you can relax jumping when you get bored of real CS." just lol here

20/12/2009 21:08:00

gj hel u got my respect go record 1 wr for me too :(

20/12/2009 21:09:00

People, lets think about 1 second What did heL do? he recorded a cheated demo that he [b]DIDN'T[/b] submit, how can punish someone who didn't submit the demo? Ok, now the elfeN's case He recorded a demo for a friend... that's has to be punished... but permanent ban for that? that's too much in my way to see the things...

20/12/2009 21:18:00

I guess you guys started to think a bit too much. Just let it go.

20/12/2009 21:22:00

@ Ev! if you don't understand what i say, then let me reformulate the sentence for you ! "Stop bitching and complaining over hel's BAN TIME and a video game." Get over it, its a game, if he wants to come back he can just change his nickname. BAN does not means the player its sentenced to death !!!

20/12/2009 21:24:00

Permanent ban is 6 months if you regret what you did. At least cheaters get unbanned. Don't know about the other permban cases :D

20/12/2009 21:32:00

<3 hel

20/12/2009 21:33:00

chrizzo because after 3-4 years active playing you are getting annoyed _-

20/12/2009 21:44:00

Did hel submit any cheat demos ? no , do submitting for a friend is wrong ? I dont think so as long as it's a legit demo. A not deserved ban ! Just ban the submitter not the recorder.

20/12/2009 21:55:00

lame

20/12/2009 21:57:00

@ Whitey why shouldn't ppl talk about video game at this video game website? if u don't want it go to the www.reallifetalk.com and stfu here plz about nickchange: 1st: it's very important to be yourself or start it over again with new nickname, at least as for me it is ;) 2nd: he need another steamid, not just nickchange and as u can see his uniq style was detected, so why shouldn't it be detected another time?

20/12/2009 21:58:00

dqx: no! it's like i kill a man and a friend goes to the police and tell them that HE killed that man , but the police discover that i killed the man. Now the question: who will the police punish? Me or that friend?

20/12/2009 22:09:00

no w1zz we not gonna stop we wanna our friend heL^_x get unbaned or make it 2 3 months ;) He just not deserve a perm ban lol i agree with the elfeN's case there he has to be punished :) And yeah i think his statement is true ;)

20/12/2009 22:37:00

Is Hel^_x banned forever??? And is it really bad? that he records demo for his friend?? PS - Hel^_x, hope you return soon

20/12/2009 22:41:00

Do you even see what you are writing ? "And is it really bad? that he records demo for his friend??" . How can you even ask something like this?

20/12/2009 22:52:00

@ Ev! don't act like the big kreedz player, try geeking more, maybe one day you will become just like hel ! i said stop "bitching" about it, not stop "talking", try making the difference ! [blockquote]if u don't want it go to the -link- and stfu here plz[/blockquote] Sings of immaturity! If he wants to came back is no big deal, new steamid = 10 $ wheres the big deal, and about the style, they may accuse him about it but without evidence they can't do anything. [i](but only if he relay wants to do that) [/i]

20/12/2009 23:29:00

@ ELODIU Rofl murders and records really are the same ? Is it a crime to record a demo with some random cheats to show your friends but not to submit it ? Don't compare such differents things.

20/12/2009 23:52:00

@ whitey lol where did I act like a "big kreedz player", but I know about kreedz a lot, and still, how should my words depend from my skill? I don't know what for are u talking about it at all ok u said bitching and complaining, actually there is no difference between this 2 words and "talking" in that way, so I still can't understand why should I stop "bitching" about it? and as I said before, but u didn't see it, or didn't want to see it, there is a BIG difference to be in as yourself or as a fake.. and if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he... anyways, it's kinda stupid to talk about this, but I just can't be quiet when I see this u're writing here

21/12/2009 01:24:00

[blockquote]I know about kreedz a lot,[/blockquote] yeah, i bet you do, [blockquote]ok u said bitching and complaining, actually there is no difference between this 2 words and "talking" in that way, so I still can't understand why should I stop "bitching" about it?[/blockquote] don't take it personal, you can talk about it, for that are the comments here. I was referring to the people, thinking just because he is/was a good player shouldn't get punished and all those "bitching" comments. [blockquote]there is a BIG difference to be in as yourself or as a fake..[/blockquote] we are talking about video games, where you are using a nickname, i bet all of us changed our nicknames at least 1 time in all this gaming "career", so there should not be any problem in creating another fake you again, because in the cyberworld we have all a fake identity [blockquote]nd if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he...[/blockquote] I'll change my nickname, my steamid and my internet provider, i want to see how could u ever find out that i am the same person recording the demos. [i]maybe with the FBI or CIA ^^ [/i] anyway, its getting kind of lame to talk about this, your are right. [b] again, don't take it personal ! [/b]

21/12/2009 01:30:00

"we are talking about video games, where you are using a nickname, i bet all of us changed our nicknames at least 1 time in all this gaming "career", so there should not be any problem in creating another fake you again, because in the cyberworld we have all a fake identity" I mean, that everybody know him in this little cyberworld allready, and it's sad to begin it all over again ;) "I'll change my nickname, my steamid and my internet provider, i want to see how could u ever find out that i am the same person recording the demos." nobody will find that it's u, cuz u're not so "famous" in kz world, but he is, and have pretty uniq style wich is kinda easy to recognize my last comment in this thread :)

21/12/2009 01:40:00

[blockquote]nd if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he...[/blockquote] it was only an example, but it doesn't matter.

21/12/2009 02:24:00

wizz who da f*** are on this site to judge !? bye

21/12/2009 03:19:00

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4eocr6 (np_o told me to put this here)

21/12/2009 04:03:00

:facepalm

21/12/2009 07:10:00

Np_O: 1) xpaw doesn't have to make plugins for spr1n, spr1n is probably even better coder than xpaw and can make a plugin himself. 2) Even if xpaw has fps-death admin, spr1n has have it for many years since he's a demochecker of kz.ee. 3) Forcing your friend to cheat and make a world record demo with an illegal plugin.. that's just retarded. Were you afraid of recording yourself? And congratulations, you failed proving spr1n cheats by cheating yourself (Go Flibo, prove that fof is using slowmo by making a demo with slowmo!).

21/12/2009 10:25:00

remake gogo lick it harder xD

21/12/2009 11:32:00

okay sir XD XD

21/12/2009 11:43:00

Ev! didn't you say at your previous post that it's your last one in this thread?

21/12/2009 12:14:00

everybody lies

21/12/2009 12:25:00

not everyone is lying to himself.

21/12/2009 12:50:00

LOL what for did u said it? such a fail...

21/12/2009 13:01:00

Don't let your mom to write comments on this site anymore! Or do you really have problems with your memory? You said you won't post here anymore and still you post senseless "XD" comments in here. [blockquote] can YOU read? he recorded 1 cheated wich he didn't submit.. I believe in his words @ statement, and even if it's not true they should punish demosubmitter, not hel, untill he would say "yes, I wanted that demo be submited" [/blockquote] 1) that demo follows an ident rule for kz demos - killing yourself in the end of the demo 2) he greets communities in the end of the demo 3) he has even spectator who screams "wr" in the end of the demo - and yes, I'd say he was bored and just made that demo for fun and didn't mean to submit it.

21/12/2009 13:15:00

yes I said it, and then I said that everybody lies.. but ur stupid comment "not everyone is lying to himself. " that's just so funny... I didn't talk to myself instead of you maybe.. the demo follows the rules, so what? he didn't submit it here, just to kzfr as it was said 1234124 times allready plz stop that selfown, it's even not so funny anymore :(

21/12/2009 13:16:00

bad english imo...sad yourself :D

21/12/2009 13:30:00

Educate yourself and stop bitching around. And learn to momorize things, changing facts and thoughts in every post isn't cool.

21/12/2009 14:46:00

I dont think this is sad at all, not like he cheated in his uber records, which THAT would be sad.

21/12/2009 15:40:00

actually,it is a joke.[

21/12/2009 16:47:00

I'm not bitching, just discuse, and u're the one who is whining and licking spr1n's ass in every thread at XJ I didn't changed any fact u stupid tard, if u can't understand smthing - it's ur problems

21/12/2009 17:01:00

Who the fuck are you? You have been defending heL all these days in this newspost and you call me an asslicker? Ever heard of friendship and nationalism? Oh probably no, because you're mentally retarded. Go and make friends with RAJU, you're exactly like him.

21/12/2009 17:08:00

lol that's thread about him, so what should I say here? my opinion about THAT thread, and u're agring stupid animal, I think u know about spr1n more then he do.. I know the difference between friendship and asslicking and u're just the 2nd one..

21/12/2009 17:16:00

wow, "stupid animal" :))))))

21/12/2009 17:17:00

You know nothing, you're a random guy who takes internet too serious and starts flaming if someone says he's not right. And yeah, since you really are mentally retarded (you proved it with your last 3 posts), then you probably have problems understanding what people are talking about too (my reply was to np_o's picture WHICH TALKED ABOUT SPR1N AND XPAW). Maybe just take some medicine and relax?

21/12/2009 17:23:00

relax relax, exhale and breath !!!

21/12/2009 17:37:00

lol, u're SO selfowning... 1st of all - before calling some1 "random guy" just think a little bit WHO U ARE?? spr1n's personal asslicker? yes, it's cool, I'll better be a random than like u're. u're just flaming me without any proofs, so who is mentally retarded after that? my opinion is based on real facts and the thing that u're agring on a np_o's statement just prooves that u're true asslicker of the year, gratz

21/12/2009 17:54:00

[blockquote]lol, u're SO selfowning...[/blockquote] lol, u're SO retarded... [blockquote]1st of all - before calling some1 "random guy" just think a little bit WHO U ARE?? spr1n's personal asslicker? yes, it's cool, I'll better be a random than like u're.[/blockquote] If you read my post again, maybe you're able to notice that my sentence continues after "you're a random guy", so yes basicly you just owned yourself. And I've never said I'm not random. Okay, let's say I'm spr1n's personal asslicker. Thanks for that title, but do you even know heL that you are so sure that I'm an asslicker but you aren't? [blockquote]u're just flaming me without any proofs, so who is mentally retarded after that? my opinion is based on real facts and the thing that u're agring on a np_o's statement just prooves that u're true asslicker of the year, gratz [/blockquote] Do I need to prove anything to you? You're not able to read my posts and memorize things even, what about facts then mr. Iknoweverything? And where are your facts? Oh, you don't have it, so you again owned yourself. And once again, thanks for the title, I'm amazed. If you want to continue this discussion, then reply my PM, I don't need a ban because of you.

21/12/2009 19:47:00

LOLLLL

21/12/2009 20:25:00

I did all KeltA's demos, sorry for telling.

21/12/2009 21:08:00

a lot of jealous guy here on xj :S

21/12/2009 22:39:00

pz hel

21/12/2009 23:49:00

lol u're rly stupid, u just skiping all my post and answering some bullshit, thxbye lox, don't wanna waste my time on u anymore I laughed enough from you, but now it's not funny, just redicilous to read ur shit ;) it's very late time here, so there is a lot of mistakes but I hope u will understand, even though u're retard

22/12/2009 10:55:00

[b]stupid, bullshit, lox, ur shit, retard[/b] Did you miss to take a medicine? You're low and ridiculous and still take internet too serious. Ask your mother to slap you into face and shut your fucking mouth up.

22/12/2009 12:39:00

Ev! is just *Np_O*'s fake account

23/12/2009 00:10:00

[quote=RemaKe`]If you want to continue this discussion, then reply my PM, I don't need a ban because of you. [/quote] And yet you continued here, Ev! I think RemaKe` won this rap battle.

23/12/2009 12:44:00

Neither did, banned :D XJ wins!

24/12/2009 02:01:00

It's just a mistake,and heL wants to prove himself clean.He is the best

25/12/2009 12:04:00

play to win man, do whatever it takes ahahah

26/12/2009 17:56:00

I've nicknamed myself as a SpawN in a cs match, should I get vac-banned? :E

26/12/2009 19:37:00

wow! heL^_x

30/12/2009 16:41:00

remake 4mo he asked to continue in PM and still answered here... stupid agring animal

31/12/2009 12:56:00

don't make me to say something to you again.. onion :<

01/01/2010 18:22:00

Okay so Hel_x cheated and faked a demo for another climber. So now we look at rules and it say ban ban ban. Are they taking care of circumstances ?... The first point is that he didnt submitting the demo by himself and moreover didnt intend to do it. The demo was on kzfr ? But who submitted ? Then dont forget a important point. Cheaters are humans. There are morons, but not all. Hel_x is surely one of the greatest climber ever. Did he, during his competition's time, make anything very bad, against rules, unfair-play ? I think he contribute more to KZ than bad things he did. When this cheated demo was released, he wasnt in top competition. He faked the demo for what ? A friend, same country, who has no records. So thats why dont forget that if he cheated and faked, it wasnt for cheat and never to fucked up the record's competition. It was some fun, kidding and convictions. Okay it's not a good act, but is that need 6 months or perm ban like all cheaters ?

03/01/2010 03:41:00

ok sosi :(

03/01/2010 17:23:00

maybe heL wanted to finish his career this way ? why would he do that he is one of the best jumpers in the world .. hel the best 4 ever :)

24/03/2010 01:13:00

indeed i did

10/04/2010 02:13:00

GL % HF IRL :D :D [blockquote]haha this cheated demo, even though it wasnt for a bad reason, obviously showed that you were expecting a perm ban. streetblock, you suck[/blockquote] why so srs?

19/04/2010 21:46:00

heL the best !!! <--- :)