Another newspost about fakedemos and cheating

By faker mapper·
Hey guys,

really a sad day for the kz world and a sort of premiere, in a very negative way though: 2 newsposts about cheater in a row.

I never thought the day would be coming when I have to ban one of out top5 players... named heL^_x.

Apparently he and some other french guys were thinking that spr1n is cheating so desperately, that they decided to create a "undetectable" plugin to make jumpbug and submit a cheated demo themselves. Therefore they created a plugin that had godmode enabled, and did remove the sounds of it... With this plugin you can do a normal duck standup bhop with godmode enabled to imitate a jumpbug. However, it was kinda obvious to see, even without fps-death admin. However, a closer check brought more than enough evidence since this was very easy to detect.

The sad thing is that heL^_x decided to submit this particular cheatdemo to prove XJ incapable of detecting stuff like that... and made a friend of him named H4d3s submit the cheated demo heL^_x recorded. Finding evidence that it was actually heL^_x who recorded that demo was not as easy as detecting the plugin/fake, but in the end we found 100% evidence for that, too.

Cheatdemos:

kz_cg_wigbl0ck_H4d3s_0213 submitted by H4d3s and recorded by heL^_x

Even though this is more than enough sad news for one day, I'm not finished yet.
Obviously this is not the only immature stuff heL^_x has been doing so far... Some guys mentioned their suspicion that he might was recording some demos for his close friend elfeN, so we compared "elfeN's" streetbl0ck demo to heL's old streetbl0ck demo and some other demos of heL and elfeN submitted and made for kzfr and found out that it was indeed heL^_x who recorded that demo for elfeN.

A little note to the admins from kzfr: kz_rd_giganticwall_elfeN_0654, which was submitted to your site, was recorded by heL^_x and not by elfeN as well.

Fakedemo:

kz_streetbl0ck_elfeN_0417 submitted by elfeN and recorded by heL^_x

All involved players got punished according to the rules.

Note: I want to throw out a big thanks to w1zz and MepH who where more than helpful in this investigation.

Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. There might be another sad newspost soon.

Note³: heL^_x wrote a statement about the situation. You can read it in the extended newspost.

Last note: After having an internal discussion about this case, talking to him and reviewing his statement, we came to the following conclusion: It's not possible to tell whether heL^_x really wanted to submit that demo. He recorded a demo with a fakenick before (streetbl0ck in elfeN's name), therefore it's impossible to know whether h4d3s sent the wigbl0ck demo with or without heL^_x's agreement. However we agreed to change the (6months) permanent ban (and chance to write an essay to get unbanned) to a 6 months time, since heL^_x already explained hisself in his statement and already showed that he is sorry in a private conversation.

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19 Dec 2009, 17:17

heL your still the best , gl in reallife :]

19 Dec 2009, 17:19

hel just wanted to quit obviously

19 Dec 2009, 17:20

hel so sad... StormZz i want to have sex with your avril!!!

19 Dec 2009, 17:21

Was pretty easy to see that he wasnt doing real jb's in this demo :). Didn't know about the elfen demos though :o. Either way heL is and was a very skilled jumper. hf irl.

19 Dec 2009, 17:23

nice!

19 Dec 2009, 17:23

i cant download the demos The requested URL /demos/haxx/kz_cg_wigbl0ck_H4d3s_0213.rar was not found on this server. :(

19 Dec 2009, 17:23

Lol'd at such try to fake.

19 Dec 2009, 17:23

haha :D

19 Dec 2009, 17:24

Speechless. This is f&@^$d up.

19 Dec 2009, 17:24

seiler but all u get is komaschelle

19 Dec 2009, 17:25

just as faker said, heL is like tarGet, really skilled but he messed around with stupid stuff and got busted :\./ Btw, it was pretty obvious to notice that heL jumped in that streetbl0ck wr; his style and 2ndly, noone could beat that demo, and there's a guy, who lives in the same city with him, near to him, a good friend, that beats his demo by 7 seconds, let's be serious ... and was pretty ez to figure out that heL jumped in the giganticwall demo aswell, his STYLE is unique.

19 Dec 2009, 17:26

schosen all u get is nackenschelle

19 Dec 2009, 17:26

bye heL.

19 Dec 2009, 17:27

LAUGHING MY ASS OFF? =D

19 Dec 2009, 17:27

wtf oO

19 Dec 2009, 17:27

hahahahhaahhahhahaahahahahahahah

19 Dec 2009, 17:28

what for news ... omg....

19 Dec 2009, 17:30

how to download wigbl0ck cheated?

19 Dec 2009, 17:30

hel nub, bai

19 Dec 2009, 17:31

rofl-_-

19 Dec 2009, 17:31

sad

19 Dec 2009, 17:35

KZ gonna die (hopefully not). LMAO too.

19 Dec 2009, 17:35

OMFG

19 Dec 2009, 17:35

i knew it long time ago haha :D

19 Dec 2009, 17:36

Way to go heL, mah boi.

19 Dec 2009, 17:37

bann pruno!! (lie D:)

19 Dec 2009, 17:38

Cmon! I want the third cheater newspost in a row! Hat trick ftw!

19 Dec 2009, 17:38

[quote=pruno] i knew it long time ago haha[/quote] Nice pruno... what a self own. do you know that you could get warned or banned for that? ;)

19 Dec 2009, 17:38

DL links fixed.

19 Dec 2009, 17:40

:FACEPALM: :SPOCK:

19 Dec 2009, 17:42

gewtchop for teh bust

19 Dec 2009, 17:42

jajajaja

19 Dec 2009, 17:43

gj wiz, edark and MepH

19 Dec 2009, 17:43

BAEM!!! good job faker. Keep things on going.

19 Dec 2009, 17:44

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA XDDDD <3 iLLo elfeN & hel XD

19 Dec 2009, 17:44

Chrizzo it was so easy to see hel's style in elfen's demo.. -_-'

19 Dec 2009, 17:45

:-(

19 Dec 2009, 17:46

http://sadamaza-hel-is-crazy.pastebin.com/d142aad65 Check this out aswell, to see how smart your boy heL was.

19 Dec 2009, 17:47

disappointing news

19 Dec 2009, 17:49

it's not hel it's illo make the cheated demo hahahha noobard

19 Dec 2009, 17:49

it's me balu_ on his server bande de gros con ptdr

19 Dec 2009, 17:50

Np_O you should get banned aswell so it would be better if you wouldn't comment :\. And I think you know why you should get banned.

19 Dec 2009, 17:50

btw its funny how xj never gives proof just plain text so dissapointing :)

19 Dec 2009, 17:50

and he make a jb not a pluging OMFG -.-

19 Dec 2009, 17:52

akkord the demo itself is proof. Just look at how his jbs look and how they sound, and check spr1n's demo to see how a real jb looks and sounds. It's a huge difference.

19 Dec 2009, 17:52

LOL @ hel

19 Dec 2009, 17:53

fail. go to record demos and there is kz_streetbl0ck hel^_x 0423 but its 24.. bad english hope u understand

19 Dec 2009, 17:53

WHAT FOR ?!!!!!! helx it's pro . what for banned him? better only H4d3s and elfen. ......

19 Dec 2009, 17:54

French humor ! :D :$

19 Dec 2009, 17:54

And if you need some more evidence, check this demo(http://www.sendspace.com/file/l949mg), where heL is making 9 "jbs" in a row, check the way he lands at the moment of the jb and the way it sounds, and check this demo aswell(http://www.sendspace.com/file/koc9ua) where I do a jb from the same position as him and see the difference. And there is no way that a after executing a jb you will get prestrafe information from the plugin, because it's like you don't touch the ground.

19 Dec 2009, 17:54

lol @ conversation

19 Dec 2009, 17:55

heL^_x gl @Admins who detected this - you detected elfeN's demo by steamid of hel or wut? or some another parameters

19 Dec 2009, 17:56

im not talking about this news i mean it in general

19 Dec 2009, 17:56

haha low

19 Dec 2009, 17:57

fkn cheaters. gtfo!!!

19 Dec 2009, 17:58

Oh Jungens ... wieso müsst ihr hier alle immer rumcheaten ?

19 Dec 2009, 17:58

I can tell you guys, i am on hel's side this time. He was obviously trying to find out the way how spr1n was (MAYBE) cheating or make a little joke. Well, he got banned :\ And about "elfeN's demo" - it proves that hel is a kind person who really doesn't care if WR belongs to him or not. Bye hel, good luck in real life/other games :) Remember that your style was always inspiration for my climbing

19 Dec 2009, 17:58

Didn't expect this from heL.

19 Dec 2009, 17:59

kielor: There are many ways to check it. First of all the config files are saved in the demo as well, so you can compare different settings, you can see the cpu, fsb (frontsidebus), sensitivity, mousespeed (therfore compare the strafes) and so on.

19 Dec 2009, 17:59

that was really nice Hatari, your humor is astonishing.

19 Dec 2009, 18:00

Np_O had the same "cheat", even if its possible to call it cheat, just a godmode.. he posted a video in chatbox, about his random jbs, and it was clearly seen what it was fake. And yea lol at my convo

19 Dec 2009, 18:00

gj staff and kb the sochori hel

19 Dec 2009, 18:02

u suck.

19 Dec 2009, 18:05

sad news

19 Dec 2009, 18:06

Really sad!

19 Dec 2009, 18:08

i think hel should get another chance like target did

19 Dec 2009, 18:09

sad.. heL was always my favourite player and never though he would try to cheat.. and even under a fakename.

19 Dec 2009, 18:09

its pretty obvious he didnt do any jb in wigbl0ck HAHAHA very fun

19 Dec 2009, 18:09

hel quited. hel should get banned.

19 Dec 2009, 18:10

lāl even cheated run was a perect, except Jb's :D cause thery cheated

19 Dec 2009, 18:11

heL T_T

19 Dec 2009, 18:11

HAHA LOL :D

19 Dec 2009, 18:12

sadface

19 Dec 2009, 18:13

omg!

19 Dec 2009, 18:14

lol,Am I dreaming?

19 Dec 2009, 18:16

cheators - too people. To use cheats, and to remain unpunished it too demands skill. hel is the good fellow. Gallant And you rejoice that have created such feat. Have found out someone. ahahhaha. Now you should put a monument. ahahahha hel respect :D

19 Dec 2009, 18:18

no just spamming in news thread

19 Dec 2009, 18:20

also, helx should've been banned @ all those who say just h4d3s and elfen, it should be all 3 and it was cuz all 3 contributed to cheat

19 Dec 2009, 18:22

and tbh, using cheats just because you know you're going to quit is lame as hell.. as lame as killing lots of people just because you know you're going to die in few weeks lol. but yeah, good luck in real life!

19 Dec 2009, 18:22

Hilarious

19 Dec 2009, 18:24

heL is still the best...

19 Dec 2009, 18:27

Guini said gj staff and kb the sochori hel XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOL

19 Dec 2009, 18:27

heL will always be my nr.1 jumper!, hes jumpstyle are so damn sexy and unique!!! glhf IRL since u obviously wanted to quit kz, just so sad it had to be this way :(( <333

19 Dec 2009, 18:29

HEL^_x cheated? HEL^_x help his friends with fake demo? don't know ENG ...

19 Dec 2009, 18:32

that's really sad, I didn't expect this from heL. I think it was the way he wanted to finish his kreedz career. Anyway, good luck in the future! :)

19 Dec 2009, 18:34

LOL, i knew for a long time that heL made streeblock demo for elfeN... => http://xtreme-jumps.eu/comment.php?comment.news.1126 (look at first comments) But it's rly sad that he submitted a cheated demo...

19 Dec 2009, 18:35

oh my god. i've never thought a top 5 player would do something like this. and then again some new plugins where only created for cheating. god damn it, you cheaters cause so freakin much work for the admins. in future releases thousands of things have to be checked only because there are people trying to proove that there are undetectable cheats or whatever. thumps down, seriously. i've visiting this page for over 4,5 years now and it's amazing to see people getting more and more shameless from time to time(only to have their names on this page). big respect to the admins who spend so extremely much time in analysing demos and consequentely detecting cheaters. thumbs up :) you deserve more then "only" these "good job"..

19 Dec 2009, 18:40

lol :D :D heL is very stupid really :X

19 Dec 2009, 18:41

LOL ! hope they remove lj page :D

19 Dec 2009, 18:42

gj admins, w1zz and Meph. unfortunately, I am waiting for another sad newspost. :(

19 Dec 2009, 18:46

omg! what this world is coming to! :( good job, admins.

19 Dec 2009, 18:46

i cant watch his "cheat demo". Blockmaker models.

19 Dec 2009, 18:47

I lol'd at your comment opa... It's not about that you don't care if a demo belongs to you or a friend... It's about following the rules and making the right thing, and ye I know it's cool to break the rules, and all the cool kids do it. If it was legit to do such a thing, trust me, I and probably like all the other recorders could make a demo for a friend or just a random dude here on the web.

19 Dec 2009, 18:48

zhady can you record a demo for me? thanks.

19 Dec 2009, 18:51

lol looks like many ppl doesn`t understand why hel cheated ? He is trying to proove that spr1n is cheating... not sure about spr1n i don`t think spr1n is cheating ...

19 Dec 2009, 18:52

fcuk heL was my favourite player and still will be, this lame shit with fake accounts makes him kiddo in my eyes but doesn't go down as a pro player with astonishing style <3

19 Dec 2009, 18:53

i have nothing to say.

19 Dec 2009, 18:57

hahaha all of sKiCg's demos were recorded by myself XAXAXAXD

19 Dec 2009, 18:59

and all of mgD`s and shNz`s demos was recorded by me obviously... How the hell didn`t you recognize my style in these demos ^^ :D

19 Dec 2009, 19:01

100 comments so far. Who's next?

19 Dec 2009, 19:02

bey0nd - true heL wants to say thats perfect jb when you fall is possible - he prove it to the all jump communty Maybe, just maybe he leaves kz becouse hi see to many cheaters in XJ impossible is possible <3 HEL^_x spr1n noob :D

19 Dec 2009, 19:03

hel respect, I hope you are not banned in vain and spr1n will still ever been banned ...

19 Dec 2009, 19:06

omg hel :/

19 Dec 2009, 19:08

='(

19 Dec 2009, 19:12

naft, what's your point about spr1n ? After all this you still think he's cheating? He would've been caught until now. And yes, heL was my favourite jumper aswell, but now I will only look at him as a retired player,that was good, cause his gesture was really for a 10 years old guy, not far away from kayne's. How can you want to retire in this way? As you have seen he didn't record for some time, why would he let us know now that he left kz, and CHEAT, cause that's what most of you don't understand, he didn't even do a demo for a friend, and he didn't want to prove spr1n cheats, because it's very very clear that there is a HUGE difference between the jbs that heL made and the ones from spr1n's demo. But whatever take it as you want, he was an uber player, but still a kid.

19 Dec 2009, 19:15

it was so stupid and kinda childish ... rules for every one hel you or not but hel was my fauvor goodluck little guy spr1n i think its time to make a handshow for public, but realy i dont care if you can make several jb in a row its meen you can do it in a cam

19 Dec 2009, 19:15

he didn't only* do a demo for a friend.

19 Dec 2009, 19:16

WHAT THE heL^_x ?!?!

19 Dec 2009, 19:17

it is not necessarily necessary it was perm

19 Dec 2009, 19:17

haha this cheated demo, even though it wasnt for a bad reason, obviously showed that you were expecting a perm ban. streetblock, you suck

19 Dec 2009, 19:20

lol i have never thouth about hel cheating

19 Dec 2009, 19:20

HAHAHA! spr1n makes other guys cheating

19 Dec 2009, 19:21

really sad news :(:(:( i really like hel's style... sad

19 Dec 2009, 19:21

permanently?

19 Dec 2009, 19:21

i must say it i luz @

19 Dec 2009, 19:24

yes

19 Dec 2009, 19:24

:D i lold

19 Dec 2009, 19:25

this is pretty funny :)

19 Dec 2009, 19:31

HEL ... A LEGEND !

19 Dec 2009, 19:36

koukouz you can't be the best even now when hel is gone so stfu

19 Dec 2009, 19:37

I guess 90% of xj had heard rumors that elfen's streetbl0ck was recorded by hel^_x. i don't really think that a player who got to his level would want to leave as a cheater even if he was going to quit. Still think he is a great player :) "Pro5 is only for the quantity of demos not quality of the player, it could've been anyone."

19 Dec 2009, 19:38

that really sucks tho i'm glad that hel just did some kiddy stuff and his skills are "f0 real"

19 Dec 2009, 19:41

haha damn , many surprices b4 xmas :D wonder what comes next..

19 Dec 2009, 19:43

nooooooo heL noooooo! who's going to pwn kunqui demos now? :(

19 Dec 2009, 19:43

hel nubed

19 Dec 2009, 19:46

streetblock was a good demo too

19 Dec 2009, 19:49

@faker you should check Lolz too cause he's also good friend with heL^_x esp kz_kzse_toonworld_Lolz_0235 maybe hel recorded his records too!! sad cause i liked heL^_x's style, my favorite jumper!

19 Dec 2009, 19:52

Zidane copycat.

19 Dec 2009, 19:53

jajaja

19 Dec 2009, 19:53

he didnt want to get banned, he tried to get past the secruity and failed -_-

19 Dec 2009, 19:57

heL^_x is the MAN... Waiting your comeback

19 Dec 2009, 20:02

lamentably

19 Dec 2009, 20:04

:D :D :D

19 Dec 2009, 20:06

"and all of mgD`s and shNz`s demos was recorded by me obviously... How the hell didn`t you recognize my style in these demos ^^" hahaha lol bey0nd :D

19 Dec 2009, 20:08

admins are doing wrong here he was, no.. he IS the most talanted jumper in kz history, and if it's true that it's not his submission of wigblock, then it's XJ failX2.. permaban of such a good player just for 1 demo recorded with another nickname? very nice... want it or not, but here comes a memories of target's case, when he broke the rules, but there two little differences in that two cases.. target got 2 or 3 (don't remember) months of ban for CHEATING, and hel got this permaban for recording clean demo with other nickname? ok, xj stuff, -respect for that... THAT'S JUST MY IMHO, DON'T JUDGE ME PLZ, THXBAI

19 Dec 2009, 20:12

lol, if HeL didnt even submit those demos, and didnt want to submit them, i think it a big fail from xj, but ofc, that he recorded a demo for his friend is not legal so ofc, thats fair with a kind of punishment, but anyway i think HeL dont care, when hes going to quit anyway

19 Dec 2009, 20:16

sad french day!

19 Dec 2009, 20:17

xD hel bye and glhf

19 Dec 2009, 20:18

French community soiled by kids... so sad...

19 Dec 2009, 20:19

i dont belive a shit of his statement.

19 Dec 2009, 20:21

Real fucking sad news.

19 Dec 2009, 20:24

For me is perm ban overreaction in this case.

19 Dec 2009, 20:26

Ev! What... Can you read? He cheated.

19 Dec 2009, 20:31

People cheated in the past and after a statement their ban was reduced...let's see if it will happen in heL^_x case.

19 Dec 2009, 20:33

can YOU read? he recorded 1 cheated wich he didn't submit.. I believe in his words @ statement, and even if it's not true they should punish demosubmitter, not hel, untill he would say "yes, I wanted that demo be submited"

19 Dec 2009, 20:36

NAIS

19 Dec 2009, 20:40

w1zz ?????????????????? you here recently? when are all cheaters are identified quickly? I do not wish to offend administration, they do everything that can... bad engl, sorry =(

19 Dec 2009, 20:42

Yup you're right !! maybe in the future we can just blame the guy who sold the gun,not the one who used it =D... how can you believe in his statement if there isn't one yet? guess you know something i don't. he broke the rules twice and is being punished for it. Ev! if you're comment was directed to me ,yes i can read even though english isn't my first language :) if it wasn't well just a misunderstanding.

19 Dec 2009, 20:46

Akl, if u take a good look, its updated with his statement in extended newspost :)

19 Dec 2009, 20:49

koukoz you suck hard nobody likes you you stink and don't have friends kill yourself with a dildo :) Sad for heL he was the best i wish just hel's ban not to be perm

19 Dec 2009, 20:50

missed it my bad :s

19 Dec 2009, 20:51

just like niken said, and it wasn't directed to you, so I don't care about your 1st language and about gun - stupid comparing... don't you ever try cheats? slowmo,bhopscript,ljscript or whatever just 4fun? and if some1 would upload that demo u should be punished?

19 Dec 2009, 20:52

well zhady, you're right ;) anyway i guess you understand what i've meant

19 Dec 2009, 20:54

Nah Akl, you gave me a cheap laugh :)

19 Dec 2009, 20:56

maybe i should've said that only the one who creates the cheat is banned and not the one who used it better? If the demo wasn't uploaded to xj in hel's account he doesn't have to be punished imo. sh*t happens deal with it... ("Admins are always right") in rules page,if you want to contest it be my guest.

19 Dec 2009, 21:04

These guys getting chance to do an essay and by that getting second chance?

19 Dec 2009, 21:06

French skill :D We are proud of you.

19 Dec 2009, 21:11

i don't think that administration (i really don't know how many guys are in there ) should decide will he get perm or some months of ban... let the record holders and other active people on this site this is not for perm..just look at the black list and hel name beetween these stupid nicknames ccc he has best style ever (after brian :P:P ) kthxbye

19 Dec 2009, 21:23

osvetN1k you're suggesting a poll for the members to vote how long the ban will be?

19 Dec 2009, 21:33

akkord understood it all. btw +1 hel, I were watching elfeN when he was still training on gigantic wall for the wr, but then he just had the french record.. GL in real life hel, very nice quit btw, never thought u could get a xj news for your leave :).

19 Dec 2009, 21:36

that's really sad, I didn't expect this from heL. I think it was the way he wanted to finish his kreedz career. Anyway, good luck in the future! 2

19 Dec 2009, 21:38

Tragedy egg. Add virgin pain

19 Dec 2009, 21:42

nubz pwnedd

19 Dec 2009, 21:56

how to shot web?

19 Dec 2009, 21:56

"Tragedy egg. Add virgin pain" Doubt anyone could say it better, /thread.

19 Dec 2009, 22:02

omg , hell we'll miss you . Bye bye xD

19 Dec 2009, 22:11

heL, okay, you didn't submit it to XJ, it was iLLo, why did you submit the demo to kzfr then? Any of his friends, try to get an answer from him and post it here, I would like to hear an excuse for that one.

19 Dec 2009, 22:14

Lolled at the "jb's". Oh and I really didn't expect this kind of a move from someone as skilled as hel... Once again, awesome fucking job XJ + w1zz and MepH.

19 Dec 2009, 22:21

w8 so admins mean, if some1 wants to do like a 255 slowmo just for fun then ur friend submit it and i get banned? that dosnt make anysence, and that proofs that xj has no overview where the demos come from :S

19 Dec 2009, 22:26

heL leaves = cs loses :( gl in real :(

19 Dec 2009, 22:29

Never though this joke would take this proportion... But who care about this...

19 Dec 2009, 22:31

"Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. [b]There might be another sad newspost soo[/b]n." waiting for that, btw gl heL

19 Dec 2009, 22:31

lol NFS? Why the fuck should someone make a demo with slowmo and then share it? If you want to jump with slowmo "for fun", then you don't make demos and you don't share them either.

19 Dec 2009, 22:31

"Finding evidence that it was actually heL^_x who recorded that demo was not as easy as detecting the plugin/fake, but in the end we found 100% evidence for that, too." Soz for doubleposting but can you show us the evidence if there's one?

19 Dec 2009, 22:47

anny0: http://i49.tinypic.com/24meufq.png Now lets copy it (76561197987145268), and visit steamcommunity http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987145268

19 Dec 2009, 22:58

RemaKe to be frank "why the fuck would anyone do that" isn't a very good argument, someone might be drunk or simply a moron. NFS I'd say the same thing if I was in heL's place so why would we trust him? If someone works that hard just to make himself amused "whee I beated a wr but not really" and even kills himself in the end like you'd do in a wr demo I don't think there should be must trust given to the jumper himself. That's my opinion.

19 Dec 2009, 22:59

bad news , but life goes on:D

19 Dec 2009, 23:01

unban hel_x he would never send a cheted demo's

19 Dec 2009, 23:03

he did send it to kzfr himself tho ..

19 Dec 2009, 23:04

btw xpaw. what it does? shoes that recorder was l33t, and l33t is hel_x .. but but? he did send the demo

19 Dec 2009, 23:07

I just showed what heL recorded the demo..

19 Dec 2009, 23:07

hel idiot

19 Dec 2009, 23:07

fuck heads, can't you understand that hel is someone normal who needs fun sometimes in his life or smth ? lol who never cheated on smth with friends for fun ? wanna know truth ? Kzfr is so weird these days that hel just wanted to have fun kidding them, that's all.. Stop fucking saying that hel is someone fucking serious and all these kind of stuff, no one is serious. just accept it, hel isn't your hero anymore. wtf about fucking the jobs ? fuck head.

19 Dec 2009, 23:08

If you use slowmotion FOR FUN you don't record demos of it and even less you give them to somebody.. in this case, I guess heL got clear plan for submiting this demo.

19 Dec 2009, 23:10

xpaw but his statement says, that he was recording , so no need to worry about, the bad is that his friends submitted his demo, i think anyone had tested what is slowmo or smth like that.. but no friend had sent your demo to XJ, so yeah

19 Dec 2009, 23:11

mxml, your reaction is not really cool. Lolz tried to have some fun with the kz_facility situation if you remember, why are french guys so funny?

19 Dec 2009, 23:17

gj xj

19 Dec 2009, 23:22

I LOVE HEL

19 Dec 2009, 23:31

hel gl. we rly gonna miss ya. :) <3

19 Dec 2009, 23:33

ev! although i wouldn't mind seeing hel back in action (who doesn't love his style?) the quality of the player cannot determine his punishment. i definitely don't agree with a perm ban though, a few months like the other 3 involved seems much more fair.

19 Dec 2009, 23:34

[blockquote]Statement by heL^_x: ... [b]i don't think that spr1n cheated[/b] in his demo, but i don't belive u can make 3jb in arow..[/blockquote] [blockquote]21:57 - 'xpaω: what youre talking about 21:57 - l33t: it's impossible to make 3jb 21:57 - l33t: CHEAT CHEAT 21:58 - l33t: [b]spr1n is cheating[/b] 21:58 - 'xpaω: calm down little boy 21:58 - l33t: and i'll prove it 21:58 - 'xpaω: Okay 21:58 - 'xpaω: good luck 21:58 - l33t: ty[/blockquote] *confused

19 Dec 2009, 23:37

spr1n I caught that too and also the first sentence if a but fuzzy: "i don't think that spr1n cheated" -> "i don't belive u can make 3jb in arow.."

20 Dec 2009, 00:03

crying

Sokta
20 Dec 2009, 00:13

I guess his still the best.

20 Dec 2009, 00:18

Hel.... GL = Good Life !

20 Dec 2009, 00:22

serious.

20 Dec 2009, 00:31

frenchkiss

20 Dec 2009, 00:55

same as tarGet?

20 Dec 2009, 01:27

:/ so bad :(

20 Dec 2009, 01:32

I think heL doesn't deserves a permanent ban, just a 2~3 months will be ok

20 Dec 2009, 01:44

Ev, you stupid? He recorded a cheatdemo with intention. Moreover, he was one of the initiators...

20 Dec 2009, 01:47

ok, thxbye, tardie

20 Dec 2009, 01:56

Lol'd hard.

20 Dec 2009, 02:41

[blockquote]Note²: The LJ page was put down for maintenance. There might be another sad newspost soon.[/blockquote] C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! heL^_x still was, is and will be one of my favourite jumpers. He (in comparison with some of you guys) was just having fun @ KreedZ jumping. And that is what KZ is all about. But... sending (or asking other person to send in) a cheatdemo to XJ was pretty stupid. Waiting for next sad newspost & mapsubmitting rule update newspost.

20 Dec 2009, 03:24

Never saw this coming at all, sad thing to hear, shows that if you "cheat" or whatever he was trying to do, you get caught and punished, no matter who you are it doesnt matter. Simple as that dont "cheat", submit fake demos, whoever did it. Theres gonna be a punishment.

20 Dec 2009, 05:30

@H@H@@H@H@H@H@H@H vot mydak ebaniy , trololo

20 Dec 2009, 05:58

heh))

20 Dec 2009, 07:08

good job ;)

20 Dec 2009, 07:26

hel did wrong things! But I agree with his thoughts Many people use different modes of Cheating Some will be found in Some will always be a secret

20 Dec 2009, 08:02

my idol died in kreedz :(

20 Dec 2009, 08:10

hel,GJ!you are the best

20 Dec 2009, 09:01

why its written cheatdemos while its only 1 ??? its little retarded

20 Dec 2009, 09:11

yYy.Je whats wrong with you?! stupid kid =\

20 Dec 2009, 09:20

there is no perfect lie or cheating in this small world. I love heL^_x and I still don't understand that if he needs to record fake demos. Because if he wants to make a new wr demo, he can make it with even smaller efforts than other jumpers. His sexy jumping style will be missed by everyone. GL heL^_x.

20 Dec 2009, 09:29

delete all hel-x demos ! and peace :D

20 Dec 2009, 09:41

Lol hahaha never expected that one haahahah xDD

20 Dec 2009, 09:44

why delete all his demos if he didn't submit any cheat demo? and all of his demos are clean... there are no stupid comments, just stupid people.

20 Dec 2009, 09:48

hel ;/

20 Dec 2009, 10:11

What you guys aren't understanding, is that KZ is something, basically, made for FUN. For amusing people. You went sooooo far in this "game" that now, you can't escape your little "recorder" world. You guys are only climbing to RECORD. To have a demo on XJ or whatever is your country. Hel sure recorded smth bad, but hey, he wasn't purposing to send it lol ? Atleast not there, he just sended it on a fucked die website where admins don't even check demos anymore. And so ? if hel really wanted to cheat crazily, he would have get a slowmo or smth, not a fucking badhead plugin that is so obvious, don't u think so ? He isn't as dumb as you can think :\. Anyway the demo was accepted on KZFR and further was deleted because the time was lower than the WR time. What a great community. GJ.

20 Dec 2009, 10:13

permban for something he didn't submit is just... although he should be banned for 2 weeks or w/e it is for recording for his friend. i've read the rules but cant remember if youre allowed or not allowed to record for someone else (if it states that clearly)

20 Dec 2009, 10:26

Ggs`, +1, it's not allowed to say such things

20 Dec 2009, 10:30

very sad news :( gl & hf irl

20 Dec 2009, 11:37

btw $iw and Tess had a 2nd chance eventho they submitted the demos by themselves, iiN aswell. Hel didnt submit anything and he's perm? heh lol, just give him another chance wtf

20 Dec 2009, 11:41

aftermatch just made the xj admins type gg

20 Dec 2009, 11:45

[left]unban hel![/left]

20 Dec 2009, 11:48

Good luck, Hel! Have a nice time, then immediately go back to us and make some crazy stuff!

20 Dec 2009, 11:50

word to aftermatch, but i think hel should be banned for like 1-2 months for the friend-demo thing. The cheated demo should be maybe som extra little punishment because you dont know if he wanted to submit it or if it was like he said, and the rest of his wrs wasnt cheated so you should not give him permban for something he didnt submit. Give him something between 1-3 months and dont remove his other wrs imo.

20 Dec 2009, 11:56

tardie? As Hazard would say, you just don't want to see the facts.

20 Dec 2009, 12:04

Pravda za heL-a!!! Brankice kurvo 8|

20 Dec 2009, 12:19

nope, it's just u, stupid hater.. u can't understand rly obvious things, bad for you just read maximalz last post, totally agree with him

20 Dec 2009, 12:28

hahaha you take this game soooooooooooooo serious men :D it's just a joke and A GAME ! if you're life is kz... you're so stupid, social life is better ><

20 Dec 2009, 12:31

[quote]GL in real life hel, very nice quit btw, never thought u could get a xj news for your leave .[/quote] Not exactly the most glamorous way to leave :D [quote]hel should be banned for like 1-2 months for the friend-demo thing[/quote] [quote]although he should be banned for 2 weeks or w/e it is for recording for his friend.[/quote] [quote]I think heL doesn't deserves a permanent ban, just a 2~3 months will be ok[/quote] I'm pretty sure recording a fakedemo is 6 months. That plus the cheated demo... Well I don't know. [quote]What you guys aren't understanding, is that KZ is something, basically, made for FUN. For amusing people. You went sooooo far in this "game" that now, you can't escape your little "recorder" world. You guys are only climbing to RECORD. To have a demo on XJ or whatever is your country.[/quote] True, this is the only way the community can grow. It's not fun either to make cheated demos or demos for other. Just because KZ isn't your life doesn't mean it isn't some other people's life!

20 Dec 2009, 12:39

hah

20 Dec 2009, 12:39

spr1n could you tell me thegirl's name in your pic ?

20 Dec 2009, 12:40

dont so serious so

20 Dec 2009, 13:51

hey faker and wizz, you actually did a good job in making hel look bad, im impressed!!!

20 Dec 2009, 13:52

HEL LOWARA hahahaahh

20 Dec 2009, 13:58

Rofl Ewoud that's the stupidest comment yet... Yeah faker and wizz were here to try and put a stamp: "fucktard" on hel's forehead. But I guess you wanted to see such skilled jumper get away with the stupid thing he did? I do like heL and I can't believe he was so stupid to do anything like this but due to the fact that he DID this newspost was 100% correct and needed. For the perm ban stuff: can't remember anyone not being permed the moment they are "busted" but after a while case is re-evaluated and given a new perspective. So don't worry yet.

20 Dec 2009, 14:22

he allready said he has left kz, did you think that maybe he doesn't even care about the permanent ban ? And no I didn't want to make him look bad, because he was my favourite jumper, why would I want to do that? I just don't think it's fair, especially the part with elfeN's demo.

20 Dec 2009, 14:28

He was also one of my favorite jumpers, I really loved his style, and I did tell him that several time, so he knows that. However, that doesn't put him anywhere above the rules and he has to be punished just like any other user who would have done that. Also... yes, he says he didn't want to submit it. But how are we expected to know he says the truth now? That story with "elfeN's" streetbl0ck doesn't make him exactly very trustworthy... Anyway, we are currently having a look into his bantime in an internal discussion. P.S: Did you all miss the latest rulesupdate? Permban is not forever anymore... People can try to get ther permban removed after 6 months by writing an essay stating why it was wrong what they did.

20 Dec 2009, 14:51

cu hel

20 Dec 2009, 14:57

omg he did streetbl0ck with other nick and took his own record so whats the problem? :/

20 Dec 2009, 15:06

Ye, add a rule, taking your own demos with other nicks is fine.

20 Dec 2009, 15:14

I can understand heL's comment tho. Hopefully noone will think that heL has cheated in the future, just because he did not read this newspost carefully. Since it's named cheating and fakedemos. I know that hel always wanted to work together with XJ to help the community. I just can not understand the move with elfen. Don't know hel, but this was a bit narrow-minded and you know that. Anyways, when you are unbanned in some months you are hopefully a part of this community once again. Once again a very famous and nice player, who was the inspiration and attraction for many new players, has destroyed hisself. I really do not wonder why people loose the interestet in this kreedz world.

20 Dec 2009, 15:18

The best comment here, was last pruno's comment ;D That is what I would really called[b]SAD[/b] (mean kz life) Most of cs 1.6 players are kid atm... Kids are doing allmost anytime mistakes, so just don't speak about hel, ban him for some time and the problem solved. :D

20 Dec 2009, 15:45

maybe i guess hel did it just for fun. it's just games .why u guys take it so seriously? if he wants to leave just let go ,he won't care if he's banned or not . anyway, enjoy the games is the purpose of gaming maybe . but the xtreme-jumps community has it special system of recorcd,everyone who participate in the game do want a wr ,so some guys try to do somthing fake ,that would be fucking disgusting.

20 Dec 2009, 15:45

if noone would've punished for our mistakes we will repeat them again and we will continue to be immature by repeating the mistakes. Better for hel: don't lie , just try to solve this problem. GJ XJ for finding that hel did what he did and he deserves the ban even he is very pr0 and whatever.

20 Dec 2009, 15:59

I needdd to SEE " THE JB x 3 in run, spr1n HANDshow "

20 Dec 2009, 16:07

handshows prove nothing, you can playback a demo and randomly press buttons and move your mouse.

20 Dec 2009, 16:27

That's good because, he stole brian records. :))))

20 Dec 2009, 16:55

That was just heLarious! :)

20 Dec 2009, 16:58

so bad

20 Dec 2009, 17:33

Hel break his own record with another nick,what's the problem

20 Dec 2009, 17:57

hilarious? hahah @dididada stop being so naive plz.. open ur eyes.. do you believe in his statement? LOL

20 Dec 2009, 18:09

flibo : "It's not fun either to make cheated demos or demos for other" @How much did u get for bhop hack ??

20 Dec 2009, 18:47

Cmon, give me a panda.

20 Dec 2009, 19:00

kyser wTF?? who are you? please insect, follow moderating the crappy kz-arg fagg

20 Dec 2009, 19:05

rofl :D

20 Dec 2009, 19:27

warcry GG okeiiii

20 Dec 2009, 19:39

That's the spirit! Keep going, you are doing great!

20 Dec 2009, 20:28

For the people who came to a point in life where they say" hel is my IDOLl", What the buck o.O how can you call a video gamer your IDOL -.-' that's retarded , And stop kissing his ass, maybe he was good, but he made mistakes. everyone must pay for their mistakes !!! Kreedz is just a fun game where you can relax jumping when you get bored of real CS. Some people got this hole idea of game wrong. GEEKS :D

20 Dec 2009, 21:06

"how can you call a video gamer your IDOL -.-' that's retarded" lol there was just 1 guy who said that anyways, the point is that he is the best or 1 of the best in kreedz, not that's kreedz is everything and let's pray on top5 players, and u're kinda stupid if u can't understand what ppl are talking about "Kreedz is just a fun game where you can relax jumping when you get bored of real CS." just lol here

gj hel u got my respect go record 1 wr for me too :(

20 Dec 2009, 21:09

People, lets think about 1 second What did heL do? he recorded a cheated demo that he [b]DIDN'T[/b] submit, how can punish someone who didn't submit the demo? Ok, now the elfeN's case He recorded a demo for a friend... that's has to be punished... but permanent ban for that? that's too much in my way to see the things...

20 Dec 2009, 21:18

I guess you guys started to think a bit too much. Just let it go.

20 Dec 2009, 21:22

@ Ev! if you don't understand what i say, then let me reformulate the sentence for you ! "Stop bitching and complaining over hel's BAN TIME and a video game." Get over it, its a game, if he wants to come back he can just change his nickname. BAN does not means the player its sentenced to death !!!

20 Dec 2009, 21:24

Permanent ban is 6 months if you regret what you did. At least cheaters get unbanned. Don't know about the other permban cases :D

20 Dec 2009, 21:32

<3 hel

20 Dec 2009, 21:33

chrizzo because after 3-4 years active playing you are getting annoyed _-

20 Dec 2009, 21:44

Did hel submit any cheat demos ? no , do submitting for a friend is wrong ? I dont think so as long as it's a legit demo. A not deserved ban ! Just ban the submitter not the recorder.

20 Dec 2009, 21:55

lame

20 Dec 2009, 21:57

@ Whitey why shouldn't ppl talk about video game at this video game website? if u don't want it go to the www.reallifetalk.com and stfu here plz about nickchange: 1st: it's very important to be yourself or start it over again with new nickname, at least as for me it is ;) 2nd: he need another steamid, not just nickchange and as u can see his uniq style was detected, so why shouldn't it be detected another time?

20 Dec 2009, 21:58

dqx: no! it's like i kill a man and a friend goes to the police and tell them that HE killed that man , but the police discover that i killed the man. Now the question: who will the police punish? Me or that friend?

20 Dec 2009, 22:09

no w1zz we not gonna stop we wanna our friend heL^_x get unbaned or make it 2 3 months ;) He just not deserve a perm ban lol i agree with the elfeN's case there he has to be punished :) And yeah i think his statement is true ;)

20 Dec 2009, 22:37

Is Hel^_x banned forever??? And is it really bad? that he records demo for his friend?? PS - Hel^_x, hope you return soon

20 Dec 2009, 22:41

Do you even see what you are writing ? "And is it really bad? that he records demo for his friend??" . How can you even ask something like this?

20 Dec 2009, 22:52

@ Ev! don't act like the big kreedz player, try geeking more, maybe one day you will become just like hel ! i said stop "bitching" about it, not stop "talking", try making the difference ! [blockquote]if u don't want it go to the -link- and stfu here plz[/blockquote] Sings of immaturity! If he wants to came back is no big deal, new steamid = 10 $ wheres the big deal, and about the style, they may accuse him about it but without evidence they can't do anything. [i](but only if he relay wants to do that) [/i]

20 Dec 2009, 23:29

@ ELODIU Rofl murders and records really are the same ? Is it a crime to record a demo with some random cheats to show your friends but not to submit it ? Don't compare such differents things.

20 Dec 2009, 23:52

@ whitey lol where did I act like a "big kreedz player", but I know about kreedz a lot, and still, how should my words depend from my skill? I don't know what for are u talking about it at all ok u said bitching and complaining, actually there is no difference between this 2 words and "talking" in that way, so I still can't understand why should I stop "bitching" about it? and as I said before, but u didn't see it, or didn't want to see it, there is a BIG difference to be in as yourself or as a fake.. and if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he... anyways, it's kinda stupid to talk about this, but I just can't be quiet when I see this u're writing here

21 Dec 2009, 01:24

[blockquote]I know about kreedz a lot,[/blockquote] yeah, i bet you do, [blockquote]ok u said bitching and complaining, actually there is no difference between this 2 words and "talking" in that way, so I still can't understand why should I stop "bitching" about it?[/blockquote] don't take it personal, you can talk about it, for that are the comments here. I was referring to the people, thinking just because he is/was a good player shouldn't get punished and all those "bitching" comments. [blockquote]there is a BIG difference to be in as yourself or as a fake..[/blockquote] we are talking about video games, where you are using a nickname, i bet all of us changed our nicknames at least 1 time in all this gaming "career", so there should not be any problem in creating another fake you again, because in the cyberworld we have all a fake identity [blockquote]nd if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he...[/blockquote] I'll change my nickname, my steamid and my internet provider, i want to see how could u ever find out that i am the same person recording the demos. [i]maybe with the FBI or CIA ^^ [/i] anyway, its getting kind of lame to talk about this, your are right. [b] again, don't take it personal ! [/b]

21 Dec 2009, 01:30

"we are talking about video games, where you are using a nickname, i bet all of us changed our nicknames at least 1 time in all this gaming "career", so there should not be any problem in creating another fake you again, because in the cyberworld we have all a fake identity" I mean, that everybody know him in this little cyberworld allready, and it's sad to begin it all over again ;) "I'll change my nickname, my steamid and my internet provider, i want to see how could u ever find out that i am the same person recording the demos." nobody will find that it's u, cuz u're not so "famous" in kz world, but he is, and have pretty uniq style wich is kinda easy to recognize my last comment in this thread :)

21 Dec 2009, 01:40

[blockquote]nd if someone will accuse him, some uber-super investigation will be and finally they'll find out that it's he...[/blockquote] it was only an example, but it doesn't matter.

21 Dec 2009, 02:24

wizz who da f*** are on this site to judge !? bye

21 Dec 2009, 03:19

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4eocr6 (np_o told me to put this here)

21 Dec 2009, 04:03

:facepalm

21 Dec 2009, 07:10

Np_O: 1) xpaw doesn't have to make plugins for spr1n, spr1n is probably even better coder than xpaw and can make a plugin himself. 2) Even if xpaw has fps-death admin, spr1n has have it for many years since he's a demochecker of kz.ee. 3) Forcing your friend to cheat and make a world record demo with an illegal plugin.. that's just retarded. Were you afraid of recording yourself? And congratulations, you failed proving spr1n cheats by cheating yourself (Go Flibo, prove that fof is using slowmo by making a demo with slowmo!).

21 Dec 2009, 10:25

remake gogo lick it harder xD

21 Dec 2009, 11:32

okay sir XD XD

21 Dec 2009, 11:43

Ev! didn't you say at your previous post that it's your last one in this thread?

21 Dec 2009, 12:14

everybody lies

21 Dec 2009, 12:25

not everyone is lying to himself.

21 Dec 2009, 12:50

LOL what for did u said it? such a fail...

21 Dec 2009, 13:01

Don't let your mom to write comments on this site anymore! Or do you really have problems with your memory? You said you won't post here anymore and still you post senseless "XD" comments in here. [blockquote] can YOU read? he recorded 1 cheated wich he didn't submit.. I believe in his words @ statement, and even if it's not true they should punish demosubmitter, not hel, untill he would say "yes, I wanted that demo be submited" [/blockquote] 1) that demo follows an ident rule for kz demos - killing yourself in the end of the demo 2) he greets communities in the end of the demo 3) he has even spectator who screams "wr" in the end of the demo - and yes, I'd say he was bored and just made that demo for fun and didn't mean to submit it.

21 Dec 2009, 13:15

yes I said it, and then I said that everybody lies.. but ur stupid comment "not everyone is lying to himself. " that's just so funny... I didn't talk to myself instead of you maybe.. the demo follows the rules, so what? he didn't submit it here, just to kzfr as it was said 1234124 times allready plz stop that selfown, it's even not so funny anymore :(

21 Dec 2009, 13:16

bad english imo...sad yourself :D

21 Dec 2009, 13:30

Educate yourself and stop bitching around. And learn to momorize things, changing facts and thoughts in every post isn't cool.

21 Dec 2009, 14:46

I dont think this is sad at all, not like he cheated in his uber records, which THAT would be sad.

21 Dec 2009, 15:40

actually,it is a joke.[

21 Dec 2009, 16:47

I'm not bitching, just discuse, and u're the one who is whining and licking spr1n's ass in every thread at XJ I didn't changed any fact u stupid tard, if u can't understand smthing - it's ur problems

21 Dec 2009, 17:01

Who the fuck are you? You have been defending heL all these days in this newspost and you call me an asslicker? Ever heard of friendship and nationalism? Oh probably no, because you're mentally retarded. Go and make friends with RAJU, you're exactly like him.

21 Dec 2009, 17:08

lol that's thread about him, so what should I say here? my opinion about THAT thread, and u're agring stupid animal, I think u know about spr1n more then he do.. I know the difference between friendship and asslicking and u're just the 2nd one..

21 Dec 2009, 17:16

wow, "stupid animal" :))))))

21 Dec 2009, 17:17

You know nothing, you're a random guy who takes internet too serious and starts flaming if someone says he's not right. And yeah, since you really are mentally retarded (you proved it with your last 3 posts), then you probably have problems understanding what people are talking about too (my reply was to np_o's picture WHICH TALKED ABOUT SPR1N AND XPAW). Maybe just take some medicine and relax?

21 Dec 2009, 17:23

relax relax, exhale and breath !!!

21 Dec 2009, 17:37

lol, u're SO selfowning... 1st of all - before calling some1 "random guy" just think a little bit WHO U ARE?? spr1n's personal asslicker? yes, it's cool, I'll better be a random than like u're. u're just flaming me without any proofs, so who is mentally retarded after that? my opinion is based on real facts and the thing that u're agring on a np_o's statement just prooves that u're true asslicker of the year, gratz

21 Dec 2009, 17:54

[blockquote]lol, u're SO selfowning...[/blockquote] lol, u're SO retarded... [blockquote]1st of all - before calling some1 "random guy" just think a little bit WHO U ARE?? spr1n's personal asslicker? yes, it's cool, I'll better be a random than like u're.[/blockquote] If you read my post again, maybe you're able to notice that my sentence continues after "you're a random guy", so yes basicly you just owned yourself. And I've never said I'm not random. Okay, let's say I'm spr1n's personal asslicker. Thanks for that title, but do you even know heL that you are so sure that I'm an asslicker but you aren't? [blockquote]u're just flaming me without any proofs, so who is mentally retarded after that? my opinion is based on real facts and the thing that u're agring on a np_o's statement just prooves that u're true asslicker of the year, gratz [/blockquote] Do I need to prove anything to you? You're not able to read my posts and memorize things even, what about facts then mr. Iknoweverything? And where are your facts? Oh, you don't have it, so you again owned yourself. And once again, thanks for the title, I'm amazed. If you want to continue this discussion, then reply my PM, I don't need a ban because of you.

21 Dec 2009, 19:47

LOLLLL

21 Dec 2009, 20:25

I did all KeltA's demos, sorry for telling.

21 Dec 2009, 21:08

a lot of jealous guy here on xj :S

21 Dec 2009, 22:39

pz hel

21 Dec 2009, 23:49

lol u're rly stupid, u just skiping all my post and answering some bullshit, thxbye lox, don't wanna waste my time on u anymore I laughed enough from you, but now it's not funny, just redicilous to read ur shit ;) it's very late time here, so there is a lot of mistakes but I hope u will understand, even though u're retard

22 Dec 2009, 10:55

[b]stupid, bullshit, lox, ur shit, retard[/b] Did you miss to take a medicine? You're low and ridiculous and still take internet too serious. Ask your mother to slap you into face and shut your fucking mouth up.

22 Dec 2009, 12:39

Ev! is just *Np_O*'s fake account

23 Dec 2009, 00:10

[quote=RemaKe`]If you want to continue this discussion, then reply my PM, I don't need a ban because of you. [/quote] And yet you continued here, Ev! I think RemaKe` won this rap battle.

23 Dec 2009, 12:44

Neither did, banned :D XJ wins!

24 Dec 2009, 02:01

It's just a mistake,and heL wants to prove himself clean.He is the best

25 Dec 2009, 12:04

play to win man, do whatever it takes ahahah

26 Dec 2009, 17:56

I've nicknamed myself as a SpawN in a cs match, should I get vac-banned? :E

26 Dec 2009, 19:37

wow! heL^_x

30 Dec 2009, 16:41

remake 4mo he asked to continue in PM and still answered here... stupid agring animal

31 Dec 2009, 12:56

don't make me to say something to you again.. onion :<

1 Jan 2010, 18:22

Okay so Hel_x cheated and faked a demo for another climber. So now we look at rules and it say ban ban ban. Are they taking care of circumstances ?... The first point is that he didnt submitting the demo by himself and moreover didnt intend to do it. The demo was on kzfr ? But who submitted ? Then dont forget a important point. Cheaters are humans. There are morons, but not all. Hel_x is surely one of the greatest climber ever. Did he, during his competition's time, make anything very bad, against rules, unfair-play ? I think he contribute more to KZ than bad things he did. When this cheated demo was released, he wasnt in top competition. He faked the demo for what ? A friend, same country, who has no records. So thats why dont forget that if he cheated and faked, it wasnt for cheat and never to fucked up the record's competition. It was some fun, kidding and convictions. Okay it's not a good act, but is that need 6 months or perm ban like all cheaters ?

3 Jan 2010, 03:41

ok sosi :(

3 Jan 2010, 17:23

maybe heL wanted to finish his career this way ? why would he do that he is one of the best jumpers in the world .. hel the best 4 ever :)

24 Mar 2010, 01:13

indeed i did

10 Apr 2010, 02:13

GL % HF IRL :D :D [blockquote]haha this cheated demo, even though it wasnt for a bad reason, obviously showed that you were expecting a perm ban. streetblock, you suck[/blockquote] why so srs?

19 Apr 2010, 21:46

heL the best !!! <--- :)