10 new demos

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Perfo

kz_5trees done in 13:03 ( n/a )
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loty

kz_man_lost_island done in 09:01 ( 09:50 by Millet )

faker

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scary

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klzz

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raYLa

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comegetsome
13/10/2005 21:37:00

1st! 1337 refresher wow i <3 new demos!! ;p

DHT- Tournament #1
13/10/2005 21:55:00

gj, wait for my demos l8r when im @ my real comp

Chrizzy mapper
13/10/2005 22:03:00

gj every1

-nightmare-
13/10/2005 22:06:00

yay, new demos pWn !! good job everyone ^^

comegetsome
13/10/2005 22:18:00

hahah rofl faker 1st try demo lol ;D it was evidently 1st try :D

raYLa
13/10/2005 22:26:00

gj all :)

faker mapper
13/10/2005 22:40:00

yeah two 1st try demos.... 1 under normal conditions (nintendo) and one drunk (temple) :D sry 4 crap shit ^^

HoHo^
13/10/2005 23:20:00

Movie Night :D

elITe^
14/10/2005 00:19:00

gj every1 faker :D !heart u m8 LOOL ;> i laughed so hard dude i fell of my chair =)))

Flipsyde
14/10/2005 00:55:00

gj bitches!

XeopH
14/10/2005 06:15:00

gj all :D

Perfo
14/10/2005 08:57:00

gj loty (tu own) gj the rest too but didn't see the dems yet

elITe^
14/10/2005 11:52:00

[color=violet][size=16]<3[/size][/color] to perfo for finally demo'd 5trees :D

radon mapper Tournament #3
14/10/2005 12:11:00

new maps, means new demos :D GJ everyone!

tsuyosa
14/10/2005 13:11:00

nice demos guys! :) keep 'em coming

Perfo
14/10/2005 14:14:00

tx elITe^ i'll try to make it better this week-end

fuzzerd
14/10/2005 17:35:00

gj guys. loty you missed some shortcuts :D but got a lot I didn't know about

4knuk
14/10/2005 21:52:00

hmm gay demos :D nah n1 demos but faker ur temple demo is gay :D sry ^^

T3dbundy
15/10/2005 02:26:00

hoho is gay :p

PlAyMo
15/10/2005 02:26:00

Good job guys :)

clintmo mapper
15/10/2005 03:16:00

somebody better beat that record on falling :), i wanna see someone edgebug the 4th level... that'd impress me :)

fuzzerd
15/10/2005 06:53:00

I cped there and was trying it for like 15 minutes with out getting it it doesn't take me that long to get edgebugs on accident

clintmo mapper
15/10/2005 07:29:00

:(

fuzzerd
15/10/2005 09:58:00

what if you could hit the timer from off the last slope? awesome shortcut if its legeal and possible.

invert mapper
17/10/2005 15:27:00

nice work scary^^ .. you forgot some sc though :)... and wasnt so much bunny! GJ... u did some sc i didnt know about, like the one at start.. how the F**K is that possible?:P

pp
18/01/2012 14:36:00

Well, the better stats on the same block should qualify for WR in my opinion. Now it doesn't matter who was the first WR on a bkz_goldbhop for example, only the better result (time) that realy matters. But yet the map has still the same texture and lenth, right? So, if better run (better time, better stats- call it whatever you want) on the SAME map gives you the right to be a world recordholder, why it shouldn't be in LJ section with the better stats on the SAME block?..

Phinx mapper moviemaker
18/01/2012 15:00:00

I think it should go to who did it first!

xERAU;*
18/01/2012 16:35:00

Avatar got 0.x jumpoff and fame got 1.x jumpoff, I think that if landing would have been 1 or more, then it should be wr. But in this case avatar landed it in 2009... of course the wr should be for the one who jumped it first... I don't know who started talking about "the best stats have the WR".

hm^ mapper VIP
18/01/2012 17:40:00

Ofc the first one who did it.... In my opinien it is the guy where made the next step. Who is really interested in "stats", i think the blockdistance is the most importent in this kind of jumping. Other notes: Sometimes this plugins are buggy in my eyes, dont know if fpsdeath can "read" distances... hm^

Keo mapper
18/01/2012 18:07:00

Well of course the first one who did the block should get the attention (he's the one who set the record in the first place, didn't he/she?), whereas the LJ top should be classified as it was, "block->stats->..."etc.

ivansky
19/01/2012 01:18:00

Well world record is when somebody pushes the limits a bit more and when this guy do it he is mentioned as world record holder,every other after him doing the same distance (fame)is just tied for wr,if he had 271 block then ok he is wr holder BUT now when you look @ my speech up --^ you can see Avatar still is wr holder even if it says fame ;)

daima
19/01/2012 07:01:00

Guys , its same as world record at athletics,if u get a better time , then it becomes a NEW world record, its normal, once Avatar does a better jump , hell have the record back , but till then,best stats come 1st.

dex7eR`
19/01/2012 11:25:00

ofc. who did it FIRST should be record holder, because he did it first and motivated others to beat him or try to tie his WR. thats my opinion.

Zippow
19/01/2012 11:45:00

To be honest stats don't mean shit when it comes to beating a block. When i saw fames CJ movie i wasn't really paying attention since Avatar really blew my mind. I think it definitely should be about who beats the block first since then that guy is as someone mentioned before the guy who took it to the next level.

Zippow
19/01/2012 11:47:00

(Sorry for doubleposting) But comparing this with athletics or even kz runs is not even merely relevant. This is a stable block with a stable distance. Its about managing to jump from one place to another. If there were blocks such as 270.01 - 270.02 ->>>> I could understand your point but here its really about making the jump 270. Which Avatar managed to do first.

spr1n mapper
19/01/2012 12:10:00

[b]the one who did it FIRST is the wr holder[/b] its block jumping, not the distance jumping! Also distance does not represent result of the jump, there is jumpoff that has strong influence on the block achievement, and idk if something else has also... people who compare it to athletics have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. we have block jumping here, its not correct to compared to timing disciplines in athletics, its more like highjump where improvement has to be at least 1 centimeter (and it doesnt matter how high above it was cleared)... and if you still stuck on your athletics time improvement examples - I have to disappoint you with one example. Usain Bolt did 100m world record in 9.58 seconds, real time is 9.572 (yes iaaf "rounds up" results). in order to beat Usain Bolt's wr someone has to run 9.570 or less (so its 9.57 after rounding up). making it it 9.571 would be considered as wr tie and Usain Bolt would still hold the world record. Anyway obviously this rule was introduced just to attract more people to longjumping and give a chance to give away a wr holder title much more easily. the rest reasons are just poor attempts to justify this made up rule (limits reaching, stats on the same block, athletics comparison...). unfortunately many people are just too addicted to "stats" and dont see (or dont wanna see) the real reasons why people are against it.

susooo
19/01/2012 14:36:00

totally agree with spr1n

KooleN
19/01/2012 18:43:00

agree with spr1n +1

boom.dll
19/01/2012 19:24:00

spr1n wins it!

MrMystery
19/01/2012 19:51:00

spr1n nailed it nd btw: this poll isn't accurate, since at least 20 % of votes are subjective: Avatar vs fame.

lealea
20/01/2012 20:44:00

^ but yea, the first one who did it is the wr holder

assault34
21/01/2012 03:38:00

who did first the block he should have the wr

jYue
21/01/2012 07:58:00

I'm curious as to how accurate the stats really are. Even so, if somebody jumps 271 stats on a 260 block, they only get credit for a 260 block. Same thing here in my opinion. They both did the same block but the first one to do it broke the record. It can't be broken again until you beat a higher block. Just my 2 cents.

nucLeaR
21/01/2012 12:39:00

For KZ maps: Best time For LJ blocks: Who did it first

daima
21/01/2012 14:46:00

•if hed make 275un on a 270 block would that make a difference? •if you would be able to lift 200 kg 10 times but u only need 5 times to win would it make any difference? •if ud make a 11m penalty , but some1 else would score later a 50 m goal , which one would u want to put on replay? Better result = That's What Matters.

MJK
21/01/2012 16:59:00

I think the goal is to jump the block and for me the person who pushed the limit 1st and made the bigger block is the one who deserves to be called a WR holder ... Others Just tie it and the stats is some what a random values unlike seconds and milisecs in kz ... All so since we are talking about 2 praticular jumps ... In my openion avatars jump is more skilled than Fames if you watch the prestrafe and edge ...

spr1n mapper
22/01/2012 14:28:00

[blockquote]Better result = That's What Matters.[/blockquote] exactly! and result is block achievement here. "real distance" is just a [u]part[/u] of jump [u]statistics[/u], it does not represent (fully at least) jump result.

finzer
23/01/2012 00:33:00

Is it possible to build blocks between 270 and 271units ?

Mrego
23/01/2012 20:47:00

Ok, In LJ Record section it has allways been that stats matter who is first (like FoF did 272, and after a while more people did the same block with better distance, so he isn't in TOP 5 @ that section anymore). BUT, the title "world record holder"I think goes for person who did it first (Avatar), all others just tie it.. Like most of the 256 movies (which were made before freestyler did 257) had *tie wr* in their title, not *new wr* When it's about block jumping, WR Holder title goes for one who made it first, that's just how it has allways been and should be in future too. I can totaly agree with spr1n about "its more like highjump where improvement has to be at least 1 centimeter (and it doesnt matter how high above it was cleared)..." /I'm really sorry for my bad grammar/

'mello
24/01/2012 10:53:00

i've never played longjumping more than 10 minutes at one time , so mby im wrong here , but how on earth can u say that if someone jumped 275 on a 270 block , and someone else had jumped 271 on a 270 block before , the first who did 270 block is the wr holder?! it just doesnt make any sense , even if its 1 unit better it must be a wr , thats obviously from my pojnt of view .

ami0
24/01/2012 10:58:00

[b]the one who did it FIRST is the wr holder[/b]

Mrego
24/01/2012 14:04:00

"i've never played longjumping more than 10 minutes at one time , so mby im wrong here , but how on earth can u say that if someone jumped 275 on a 270 block , and someone else had jumped 271 on a 270 block before , the first who did 270 block is the wr holder?! it just doesnt make any sense , even if its 1 unit better it must be a wr , thats obviously from my pojnt of view ." if a person can pull 275 distance it's his problem that he did it on 270block..If It's stats>block, than person who will do 272cj stats on 265block will be a wr holder? silly

'mello
24/01/2012 17:13:00

no mrego , the blocks distances matters the most! but if the blocks are th same , 270/270 , and I've jumped by accident 350(teoretically) , and someone else has jumped on the same block 271 , how can you say that hes better than me?! just bcs he has jumped the frst doesnt make 271 >350 same logic for 271>272

clair mapper
25/01/2012 10:43:00

this isn't a comparison of better time to better stats. better time is the equivalent of better block. if two people hit the same time on a map, it doesn't matter whose run looked better. whoever did it first gets the record.

daima
25/01/2012 14:25:00

clair , outgoing from that , whoever did it with 0.000000000000000000000001 less is supposed to have the record , thus if u improve anything,anywhere,anytim, u will become the wr holder , until some1 else will make it better by 0.0000000000000000000000001 .

clair mapper
28/01/2012 05:15:00

daima, it wasn't improved. It' still the same block distance, which is what the record is based on.

prad
29/01/2012 11:38:00

Sorry to say this, but this is a dumb question. Don't know why the ppl are arguing so much over it. If the first one to do a block is the wr holder, then 1. Records wud never change 2. People wud literally stop geeking [i](As they wud already know, whatever i know, he's already the wr holder. Competition wud die down)[/i] 3. Let's assume for a second, you are awarding the first guy who achieved the block with the wr holder. After that, how are you gonna do the ranking? According to stats obtained? The first historical guy is 257.12, the second guy is 257.34, the third guy is 257.56. So acc. to you, what should the ranking be? 1, 2, 3 or 3, 2, 1? Stats should be the only deciding factor. 4. Let's be very practical. The very first guy to do a block just strikes with the "historical" aspect and the people supports him. It's always mathematics and calculation and statistics that should win the story, not the other.

'mello
29/01/2012 14:29:00

"this is a dumb question. " tahts exactly what ive had in my mind.

Torex-):-D
30/01/2012 19:15:00

prad so ur saying that if i would do 250 block with 258stats ill be world record holder? so fanny first one to do the block is the record holder, like srsly, im so lulzy when i see comments saying fame owned avatar, cmon, ava did it in ~mid'10 also 269 in early'10 and here 2years later some only tieds it...big wow same goes with story about fofs dcjs, people started landing it about year past his jump, funniest thing that fof wasnt even so active at that time if i remember right why would people stop geeking? there are no limits afterall, lol

'mello
30/01/2012 20:31:00

lol torex . the question is : "" Best stats on the SAME BLOCK "" so the stats are being considered only if the blocks are the same! i think all of u who voted for the second answer must have missed the first answer ,there is no way to have such a logic , just bcs avatar did his jump in 1900 doesnt mean he should be the wr holder forever and nothing between 270 and 271 is better than his 270 or everywhere in a normal world 271.252 is more than 270.495, u just saw avatar's name after the second answer an then omg omg avatar avatar is the best yay my idol vote for him

Torex-):-D
31/01/2012 13:50:00

by what i said i ment i wouldnt be a 250block world record holder, nvm, no1 says that avatar's 270 is better than fame's, the thing is its old news, fame can have this 1st place in top but avatar still remains holder of this block, all of you are crying becouse its like really, reallly hard to push longjump limits these days, but so it was in early days lol. yesterday ive read dude writing something about map recording and who made a run on a map first....well people recorded same map with better time and theyr demo was accepted, same logic applies here i guess, avatar did 270 block alot faster than fame, like year and a half faster =D

anonymus_n
01/02/2012 09:44:00

It's obvious that WR is by the one who FIRST made the block, i think it's a good idea to disable ljstats from the wr's, Ljstats shouldn't be valid in a WR since the WR is about the BLOCK distance and not the stats, the stats dosn't matter at all actually. Gj avatar for WR.

'mello
01/02/2012 11:48:00

in highjump the improvements have to be atleast 1 cm bcs there is no way to count how much above that stick an athlete has jumpd , but in lj-ing after blocks there is one more criterion , the stats and its impossible to not care about stats since the name is long-jumping , long stands for the distance between two spots , not between 2005 and 2010. and anonymus_n the stats actually do matters(they are telling u how LONG ur jump is) since the name is "long-jumping" and not "block -jumping"

anonymus_n
01/02/2012 12:24:00

'mello, I know what you mean but the stats are still not needed to do the "long-jump" because it's the block that matters. it's named "long-jump" because it's the technique for the block.

Harley
01/02/2012 19:12:00

If stats don't matter - why on earth do you even a) list the stats on LJ top b) allow more than 1 "WR" for each block c) accept demos on a block that is already recorded? Jumping the highest block that has ever been landed and even ENHANCING the distance - why should this not be credited? This goes beyond my logic.

Dragon
02/02/2012 17:46:00

stats should qualify you for a WR. I suggest this to preserve competition in this area of KZ. as the players' skill evolves, we are closer and closer to reaching the limit. therefore a lot of players would lose motivation to improve this limit.

Raise
02/02/2012 19:27:00

As spr1n stated: It's block jumping, not distance jumping. I know it's quite silly but think of this example--> a 254 block with better stats wins over a 255 block with worse stats? Doesn't make any sense imo.

'mello
02/02/2012 20:01:00

no , its not block-jumping , its long-jumping. and again no , a 255 block would definetely be better than a 254 block even with better stats , but if the block distance is the same , th guy with 275 on a 270 block would without question be better than one with 271 on a 270 block

Mrego
03/02/2012 12:09:00

'mello, ofcourse the one with better stats will be the 1st in "LJ Records" section. BUT, "WR Holder" status should go to person who did it first, who pushed the limit... as I remember all the other 256's after first (oTcHeTo), were called "tie wr", even with better stats, even if these demos were above oTcHeTo demo in "LJ Section".. he still was one who holded the wr untill FreestyleR did 257. If someone would do 275 stats on 270 block, he definetly will be the top1 @ Record section, but the "wr holder" still will be one who did it first.. If he would have done 275 stats on 271 block, he would be one who holds WR. that's just how I understand it.. ofc in "LJ Record" section top1 will be one with better stats (if others have the same block), but still one who is "WR Holder" should be one who did it first, don't matter even if 10people have done the same block with better stats and he is not anymore at "top5" .. one who repeated block with better stats shouldn't be "wr holder" and doesn't deserves movie in front page of xj with title "NEW WORLD RECORD", he tied it. /sorry for my grammar :\

PepoMerca
03/02/2012 14:08:00

option 2, ii ve never trusted lj plug

nobody^
03/02/2012 20:12:00

Totally agree with prad! The competition will definitely get to a real low level as he already mentioned.

etern1ty
04/02/2012 00:29:00

It's same as with map records, you have better time on map you are WR Holder and you have better stats u are WR Holder. My opinion is that WR Holder should be with better stats.

scrap3R`
05/02/2012 04:12:00

fame did 250 cj block no duck, about 1 year ago. he did it twice :D

MuRda #tsmc
08/02/2012 06:57:00

Stats.

KiZZek
09/02/2012 18:19:00

Bibo oTcHeTo FreestyleR Any questions?

Entity.^
09/02/2012 21:09:00

50%/50% :D

badass .
10/02/2012 11:26:00

Avatar is better , and he did 270 first, so i vote for Avatar !

prad
10/02/2012 20:07:00

[blockquote]Torex-):-D wrote: prad so ur saying that if i would do 250 block with 258stats ill be world record holder? so fanny[/blockquote] Did you [b]even understand[/b] what I wrote? I was talking about two guys getting different stats on the same block not getting different stats on two different blocks. [blockquote]Torex-):-D wrote: why would people stop geeking? there are no limits afterall, lol [/blockquote] If you were been a little more observant while reading my post, you would have probably noticed that post concerned with the case of a "particular" block. Acc to your theory if someone makes 257 with more than 257.666 stats, still FreestyleR stays the wr holder? So people already knows no matter if I pwn the 257 block with whatever stats, still FreestyleR stays the wr holder because he did it first.

Welder
11/02/2012 21:44:00

Sometimes you must put logic aside for the greater good - competion level in this case.

ova
16/02/2012 12:43:00

Even in high jump the wr holder is the one who jumps the bar first no mater how close, so imo first one should get it.

PU9makerrecord holder
18/02/2012 21:41:00

My opinion is that The one who did it first is WR holder as long as someone did it with better stats just like in regular kz maps.

'mello
18/02/2012 21:56:00

PU9maker, in regular kz maps if a demo's time is in the same second with the wr , the miliseconds are being considered so "just like in regular kz maps " would be in the situation when there are 2 lj on the same block and the one with better stats would be considered as the wr holder

Cobrex mapper Tournament #2
20/02/2012 16:04:00

Which one is more "amazing" : "i did 270 block,first person in the world" or "i did 270 block ... oh,i'm not the first one" !! ??? It's stupid to rank WRs by their stats. The old system (you did great that you changed it back on) was the most correct one : T3dBundy did 254 LJ = WR (dosn't matter if freestyler does 254 with 257 stats); Bibo did 255 LJ = WR (same stuff i said before) oTcHeTo did 256 LJ = WR (same stuff i said before) Freestyler did 257 LJ = WR (same stuff i said before) Stats are just a way to help you see if you can atleast do the units the block has.nothing more. The block is that counts,because you must remember that jumpoff edge is also important. Let me ask you this : If you want WRs to be ranked by stats,then why not by jumpoff edge too ? and landing edge ? Why not strafes and all other stuff ... There are many thinks to rank by but the real deal is the block distance,not the little things !!

'mello
21/02/2012 13:53:00

what is jumpoff?

Pqst`
23/02/2012 07:37:00

Bibo did it!

unA!med
25/02/2012 23:41:00

+1 Cobrex