34 New World Records

By ndR moviemaker Tournament #2··Demo release
Memories

kz_kzsca_toonworld2 done in ( 05:53.41 ziper )
kz_cup_storage done in ( 02:12.59 KeltA )
kz_conveyor done in ( 02:48.91 mgD )
kz_kzsca_cons done in ( 03:56.54 ePEli )
kz_kzsca_downtown done in ( 04:29.47 jahasunsa )

M@UGLI

kz_dbh_pipehop done in ( 01:48.52 shNz )

koukouz

bk_icerock done in ( 02:10.33 mgD )
kz_christmas done in ( 08:12.22 puppetz )
kz_highblock_xp done in ( 04:28.15 sKiCg )
kz_kzfr_mariocastle done in ( 12:21.53 7D )
kz_kzfr_duke done in ( 09:24.78 puppetz )
nfs_longjumpez done in ( 00:25.85 StormZz )
nfs_longjump done in ( 00:26.81 StormZz )

Chasquido

vee_mojave done in ( 02:19.99 kunqui )

insuline

vee_nintendo done in ( 03:56.15 KeltA )

volte

kz_junglemountain done in ( 04:00.03 koukouz )

Hitlooser

kz_bhopwarehouse done in ( 00:09.83 Supa )

pruno

kzfr_bhop_lamborghini done in ( 00:18.55 JAy )

Osama

clintmo_longjumper[x] done in ( 00:05.96 Hanniball )

Skizo_

kz_kzfr_bhopspace done in ( 00:00.74 Np_O )
clintmo_bhopbarrels done in ( 00:19.91 shNz )
kz_man_bhopocean done in ( 00:00.80 Pulsar! )
kz_man_bhopsnow done in ( 00:00.81 HerloTz )
rpz_downfall[boxes] done in ( 00:05.81 faker )

Cypek

kz_ea_waterfall done in ( 03:42.02 Messing )

w1zz

sx_goldrush done in ( 04:25.22 Flibo )

daza

kz_4caves done in ( 05:16.19 sKiCg )

MepH

kzlv_vaz_ujo_h done in ( 01:33.74 Skizo_ )
kz_cg_holodeck done in ( 04:34.73 7D )
kzlv_vaz_ujo_e done in ( 01:31.56 Skizo_ )
kz_kzdk_delianshop done in ( 02:10.19 mgD )

juanch0x

kz_pacman done in ( 02:43.66 KeltA )
kz_ancientmemories done in ( 02:58.91 KeltA )

kexas

kz_man_bhopdesert done in ( 00:00.89 FuzZerd )

Read the extended news post for demos that were improved or didnt quite make it.

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24 Mar 2010, 02:33

Awesome :x

24 Mar 2010, 02:34

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

24 Mar 2010, 02:35

ARGENTINA -____- !!!!

24 Mar 2010, 02:35

GJ me, good bye

24 Mar 2010, 02:36

Argentina!

24 Mar 2010, 02:36

GJ MEMO JUANCHOX AND CHASQIDO, GJ ARGENTINA!

24 Mar 2010, 02:36

Argentina 2010 (H) gj memories, chasquido and koukouz :)

24 Mar 2010, 02:37

axn destroyer release, koukouz JUANCHOX CHASQUIDO ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 Mar 2010, 02:37

GJ ALL =D MEMORIES <3 JUANCHOXXX <3 CHASQIDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINA ON FIRE!!!!!!! (L kkz

24 Mar 2010, 02:38

gj ndr, good bye gj all, nice release with new system

24 Mar 2010, 02:38

oh, forgot sry daza cypek and meph, :>

24 Mar 2010, 02:38

Gj chasquido and juanchox. GJ ARGENTINA

24 Mar 2010, 02:40

too slow release GJ

24 Mar 2010, 02:40

ARGENTINA WONS THIS REALESE

24 Mar 2010, 02:41

finaly

24 Mar 2010, 02:41

OSAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!! s2222222222222222222222222222222222222222!!

24 Mar 2010, 02:45

Yeah, the Brazilian flag is finally present again. Thats awesome. Awesome job Osama!

24 Mar 2010, 02:46

GJ [b]MEMORIES[/b] & [b]JUANCH0X![/b] Argentina ftw!!

24 Mar 2010, 02:46

Once again, great job ndR. Must comment incredibly lucky demo on kzfr_mariocastle and destroyer demos like pacman. Also, too bad for your fail w1zz, almost 10 seconds gone. Memories, cypek, skizo nicely done! kkz go until you reach 100 :D

24 Mar 2010, 02:49

Big big thumbs up for ndR, amazing work you're pulling of there <3

24 Mar 2010, 02:49

memories juanch0x chasquido and kunqui :D

nplay1
24 Mar 2010, 02:50

nice OSAMA! BRAZIL and all, kkz ,memories,skizo_,cypek,juanchox,daza,meph

24 Mar 2010, 02:50

gr8 release ! gj all esp osama + skizo <3

24 Mar 2010, 02:50

OMGGGGGGGGG ARGENTINA ! NICE MEMORIES NICE JUANCHOX NICE CHASQUIDO GJ SKIZO, MEPH, KOUKOUZ, CYPEK !!

24 Mar 2010, 02:52

ARGENTINA M3N GJ all

24 Mar 2010, 02:52

=* osama. 2010 brazilian year!

24 Mar 2010, 02:54

Uber release! GJ everybody esp kz.random team <3 ! And ofcourse gj ndR!

24 Mar 2010, 02:56

the oldest demo has been beaten yuuppy

24 Mar 2010, 02:58

Fucking aye ndR did a great job! Ty! ^^ So happy to see not so familiar names on the post. Well done! Stormzz :'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( come back you crazy ass bunny.

24 Mar 2010, 03:01

ndR <3 rip hanni :'(

24 Mar 2010, 03:05

t3h argentinian power win!!!

24 Mar 2010, 03:07

gj all! Osama =)))))))

24 Mar 2010, 03:07

ndr take your time ;)

24 Mar 2010, 03:09

ty ndR :) gj skizo!!! <3 \\ Memories machine ;] nice records .

24 Mar 2010, 03:09

I still think demos.txt should be updated to the new time system.

24 Mar 2010, 03:12

wow sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk~

24 Mar 2010, 03:14

M@UGLI !!!!!!!!!!! kuMo !!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB !!!!!!!

24 Mar 2010, 03:20

BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

24 Mar 2010, 03:21

kelta wins

24 Mar 2010, 03:26

fail kumo meph cypek osama skizo pruno arg <3

24 Mar 2010, 03:29

ARGENTINA<3 Chasquido<3:$

24 Mar 2010, 03:35

meph Oo gj cypek

24 Mar 2010, 03:35

Great job everyone, ESPECIALLY mjuuh! clintmo_bhopriver_mjuuh_0019.rar - Wrong filename, read the new demo rules.

24 Mar 2010, 03:42

gj Osama :) Memo and kkz monster

24 Mar 2010, 03:44

ARGENTINAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :) MEMO s2 JUANCHOX s2 CHASQUIDO s2

24 Mar 2010, 03:57

Pruno!! <3 nice

24 Mar 2010, 03:59

just saw pruno's demo, fucking amazing

24 Mar 2010, 04:17

GJ Memo,Juanch0x and Chasqido :D:D::D:D:D: ARGENTINA!!!

24 Mar 2010, 04:34

GJ ndR!!! awesome juanchox! BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLL o//// thanks all

24 Mar 2010, 04:40

funny release :D M@UGLI krasavcheg :P

24 Mar 2010, 04:48

Nice one , but new system is bad . its like "wow , i beat WR in 00.01 sec , i`m better then koukoz , yeah . yeah" Уныло

24 Mar 2010, 04:50

gewd job osama ! x)

24 Mar 2010, 04:52

GJ everyone

24 Mar 2010, 04:53

gj boca juniors

24 Mar 2010, 04:55

welcome Memories

24 Mar 2010, 05:00

ARGENTINA FTW ! JUANCHOX s2 MEMORIES s2 Chasquido s2 !!!!

24 Mar 2010, 05:38

Good Job ALL :-))

24 Mar 2010, 05:44

sick demos:(

24 Mar 2010, 05:44

ARGENTINA NICE! MEMORIES SKIZO <3

24 Mar 2010, 05:48

Pulsar :(((( It was 1st demo from Russia on xj )*:

24 Mar 2010, 05:58

2-3 more releases like that and everything will be on its place(some PERFECT wrs on small maps, so nobody can beat you)

24 Mar 2010, 06:01

nice strafes juanchox ;)

24 Mar 2010, 06:02

best release when i see. [color=#cc0000]Skizo_ [/color] Np_O coming soon on axn ?

24 Mar 2010, 06:28

AWESOOME! nice ndR, Gj Skizo,kkz,Meph

24 Mar 2010, 06:34

Sick!

24 Mar 2010, 06:35

AWESOOME! nice ndR, Gj Skizo,kkz,Meph, M@UGLI

24 Mar 2010, 06:44

M@UGLI nice!

24 Mar 2010, 06:55

<3 [b]insuline[/b], [b]Cypek[/b]!

24 Mar 2010, 07:13

Hitlooser <3

24 Mar 2010, 07:25

kexas! Lithuania has wr again

GJ Hitlooser!

24 Mar 2010, 07:32

hannibal :(:(

24 Mar 2010, 07:42

GJ Memories , M@UGLI , kokouz , insuline , volte , Cypek , w1zz , daza , MepH , juanch0x :)

24 Mar 2010, 07:57

GJ guys. Indeed m0ver, there's a link at the end of the demo with a 0407 fail :\

24 Mar 2010, 08:17

GJ Hitlooser for copying my exact run and not implementing anything different. The new age of kz :)

24 Mar 2010, 08:26

'clintmo_bhopriver_mjuuh_0019.rar - Wrong filename, read the new demo rules.'' BUT ITS MJUUH =(

24 Mar 2010, 08:30

god argentinians are annoying.... "ARGENTINA JAJAJAJAJAJJA HASTA FUEGO JAJAJAJAJ"

24 Mar 2010, 08:34

Good job guys, especially [b]ndR[/b] :) <3

24 Mar 2010, 08:37

Well done ndR. Nice seeing you spending so much time on this community. Wouldn't be the same without you.

24 Mar 2010, 08:45

<3 [b]M@UGLI[/b] <3 :happy: :first:

24 Mar 2010, 09:00

gj skizo <3 w1zz nice run and gj to others that did their 1st wr!

24 Mar 2010, 09:09

wtf billz?

24 Mar 2010, 09:14

Great job ndR.

24 Mar 2010, 09:17

holy shit awesome rls gj ndR` and all jumpers

24 Mar 2010, 09:21

where is kelta? :((((((((((((((( gj all other tho

24 Mar 2010, 09:31

there go the legends, welcome to the " omg i beat the oldest demo, im a legend now, eh, am i? oh fuck im not :( "

24 Mar 2010, 09:32

sry for double, but keep on making new wr movies and battle movies where a demo is 00.00,01 seconds better, goldmine!

24 Mar 2010, 09:44

gj guys . Goodbye Pruno hahahahha

24 Mar 2010, 09:47

GJ ndR :). And bye to some old WR holders ^^ Add kz_aztecblock_b02 also then! Was also removed cuz bugged timer if i remember corectly also.

24 Mar 2010, 10:10

OMG! can't wait to get home and watch them all! sick sick sick! gj ndR! <3

24 Mar 2010, 10:24

gj all, esp ndR!

24 Mar 2010, 10:25

i told you osama! :P

24 Mar 2010, 10:26

Hitlooser GJ for first (CZ)? WR Hannibal :( the oldest demo is gone. GJ others.

24 Mar 2010, 10:33

hanniball :(

24 Mar 2010, 10:39

Best relase of all time

24 Mar 2010, 11:01

volte cypek daza meph <3 gj boyz!

24 Mar 2010, 11:09

gj all! Skizo!

24 Mar 2010, 11:09

oh shit, osama made a record! gj every1. nice that ae_strafers is back, that map is the_funny. :D

24 Mar 2010, 11:23

I thought showpre isn't allowed. :F

24 Mar 2010, 11:30

KEXAS THE HERO !!!!

24 Mar 2010, 11:43

gj hitlooser, supa crymode off pls kthx

24 Mar 2010, 11:53

That's 1337 realise :D gj all

24 Mar 2010, 12:07

Gj daza ! and the rest of you as well :D - To all the world that depend on the decimal system -.-'

24 Mar 2010, 12:10

gj all, nice demos, nice job ndR! @ Adantoud, i thought same as you.

24 Mar 2010, 12:12

gj all esp. ndR! Osama insane clintmo meph<3:D nice :D Hitlooser :D:D:D ;) volte , Cypek very nice !:D but my favorite is kexas ;) very big gj for you :D 0.56 insane on higher bhopdesert

24 Mar 2010, 12:29

Oh! great job you've done ndR` :D

24 Mar 2010, 12:45

[b]Hitlooser <3[/b]

24 Mar 2010, 12:56

[b]INSULINE !!!![/b]

24 Mar 2010, 13:04

RESPECT ALL Q_Q

24 Mar 2010, 13:05

[b][size=36][color=#3399ff][center]ndR[/center][/color][/size][/b]

24 Mar 2010, 13:07

[b]kexas <3[/b]

24 Mar 2010, 13:12

M@UGli !!! ebashor!

24 Mar 2010, 13:15

memories, wow first WRS :D cypek, meph and juan ;)

24 Mar 2010, 13:21

kexas ;oooo gj all ofc

24 Mar 2010, 13:26

congrats hitlooser for your first world record.

24 Mar 2010, 13:26

RIP StormZz, faker and Hanniball

24 Mar 2010, 13:32

STORMZZ,Pulsar,JAy RIP :(

24 Mar 2010, 13:34

Gj insuline for 1st wr!

24 Mar 2010, 13:34

good job ALL !! :]

24 Mar 2010, 13:54

gz , kexas in action !

24 Mar 2010, 14:17

gj all, esp. Hitlooser

24 Mar 2010, 14:29

hands up for mr. kexas! GJ everyone else too XD

24 Mar 2010, 14:45

what happens with showpre?

24 Mar 2010, 14:45

Goodjob ;)

24 Mar 2010, 14:50

sorry, some1 just told me to upload it so I did (without reading the newspost ofc.)

24 Mar 2010, 14:51

great job all!

24 Mar 2010, 14:53

daza :) rising star! I think everyone expected a great release when it took so long, and this indeed was a great realease :)

24 Mar 2010, 15:00

mjuuh:< reupload awmagad!

24 Mar 2010, 15:42

M@UGLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Argentina attack awesomeness!Memories very nice demos.Skizo and juan nice as well.Uber release

24 Mar 2010, 15:51

bhopbarrels=showpre

24 Mar 2010, 15:57

Nice insuline!

24 Mar 2010, 16:04

StormZz, Hanniball, faker = germany R.I.P. :( bye

24 Mar 2010, 16:25

Holy mada fakin release oO GJ ALL !!!

24 Mar 2010, 16:25

gj all! very nice Skizo:dance:

24 Mar 2010, 16:25

gj all and ndr

24 Mar 2010, 16:33

gj all esp kkz & meph.

24 Mar 2010, 16:35

[blockquote]Dragon: supa crymode off pls kthx [/blockquote] lol another e-peen boy.

24 Mar 2010, 16:37

gj memories ! & juanch0x

24 Mar 2010, 16:52

cant wait to watch another rpz downfall next release !!

24 Mar 2010, 16:57

[b]KEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!![/b][u][/u][color=#cc0000][/color]

24 Mar 2010, 17:09

[b]KEXAS N1[/b] [flag]lt[/flag]

24 Mar 2010, 17:11

Yeah, the Brazilian flag is finally present again. Thats awesome. Awesome job Osama!

24 Mar 2010, 17:26

mjuuh is back? :o

24 Mar 2010, 17:42

juanchox! <3 Memories! <3333333333333333333333333 puto Chasquido ;D

24 Mar 2010, 17:45

[size=36][b]Go random![/b][/size]

24 Mar 2010, 17:45

kz_kzsca_downtown done in 04:22.39 ( 04:29.47 jahasunsa ) jaha will take it back!

24 Mar 2010, 17:57

M@UGLI First pulled) gj! :up:

24 Mar 2010, 17:58

insuline , cypek <3 :D

24 Mar 2010, 17:59

gj kexas !!

24 Mar 2010, 18:04

KZCZ <3 Hitlooser

24 Mar 2010, 18:07

mjuuh is not back, year old demo. And yeh gogo top5 with 10s demos! ...:S

24 Mar 2010, 18:10

:( M@UGLI, gj!!!

24 Mar 2010, 18:33

Congrats, kexas!

24 Mar 2010, 18:40

gj ndR ;)

24 Mar 2010, 18:55

Good job, kexas!!!

24 Mar 2010, 18:58

mephhhhhhh S2 ndrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr S2 Nice on pacman and pipehop.

24 Mar 2010, 19:02

haha skizo noob

24 Mar 2010, 19:03

GJ memo :0 congrats

24 Mar 2010, 19:14

I lulz at Supa's impotency.

24 Mar 2010, 19:25

gj all esp argentina

24 Mar 2010, 19:26

cry more supa pls , we have good fun from you on kzsk :D look how many people lost their records in a retarded way but you're the only one complaining :D

24 Mar 2010, 19:51

skizo nice fail kz_man_bhopsnow_Skizo__0000.69.rar kz_man_bhopsnow__Skizo_0000.69.rar

24 Mar 2010, 20:10

M@UGLI!!!!!!!!

24 Mar 2010, 20:11

Dragon, it was Supa's record so it's up to him to decide wether to complain or not. Who are you to judge him? Why don't you go laugh at kzsk and mind your own business?

24 Mar 2010, 20:31

[blockquote]I lulz at Supa's impotency. [/blockquote] Another 10 yr old e-peen trying to use big english words that make no sense. :facepalm:

24 Mar 2010, 20:32

Stefkicha he wanted to point out that Supa is ~24 yo and this is just a game so it was a lame whining.

24 Mar 2010, 20:47

[blockquote]GJ Hitlooser for copying my exact run and not implementing anything different. The new age of kz[/blockquote] +1

24 Mar 2010, 20:51

haha supa rofl :D:D:D:D

24 Mar 2010, 20:57

w00t demos! all under 20s maps pwned

24 Mar 2010, 21:00

gg noobs! gj ndr :)

24 Mar 2010, 21:07

buena chasquido!

24 Mar 2010, 21:23

In this demo archive kzlv_vaz_ujo_h_MepH_0133.16.rar Its also added kz_kzdk_delianshop_MepH_0210.06.rar :d

24 Mar 2010, 21:34

KEEEEEEXAS

24 Mar 2010, 21:41

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24 Mar 2010, 21:50

weeeeeeee me likes this xDD

25 Mar 2010, 00:23

gj memories, chasquido and juanch0x <3 argentina ftw <3 finally juanch0x u did a great run with my sc in pacman! :D

25 Mar 2010, 00:54

Thanks, Skizo, but that is probably the lamest wr on xj :)

25 Mar 2010, 01:51

osamaaa !!! brazil ! finally : )

25 Mar 2010, 07:29

volvio Argentina :O

25 Mar 2010, 07:52

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25 Mar 2010, 08:16

Supa are you serious? He was 0,5 seconds faster than you in a 9 seconds long map. You don't think that's enough of an improvement?

25 Mar 2010, 08:24

*SADFACE*

25 Mar 2010, 09:28

wow nice esp meph

25 Mar 2010, 12:02

We're nothin' to you but we're the fuckin' shit in they eyes That's why we seize the moment try to freeze it and own it, squeeze it and hold it Cause we consider these minutes golden And maybe they'll admit it when we're gone Just let our spirits live on

25 Mar 2010, 12:30

Goodbye hanniball :)

25 Mar 2010, 12:42

M@UGLI gj gj all nice relize Ukraine <3

25 Mar 2010, 13:23

[blockquote]Supa are you serious? He was 0,5 seconds faster than you in a 9 seconds long map. You don't think that's enough of an improvement? [/blockquote] never said anything about his time not being fast enough... another :facepalm: .. but I did say something about how KZ is going to become a lot less innovative now with people only COPYING other peoples runs without haveing to think of new jumps... new blocks to start from.. and alll that jazz. Doesn't take much effort to watch a demo and then copy it tbh and hope for .5 second better.

25 Mar 2010, 13:59

Well the fastest time is the world record, no matter if it has some different stuff implemented in the run. Its how it should've always gone. :-=SAD

25 Mar 2010, 14:19

I see that logic what Supa is saying, Tonic had similar reaction when I told that XJ implemented decimals to world records. "Thats stupid, it only means who has more luck in the end." And he's kinda right... Both can do 100 runs and the one with few better or just one better bhop can win the record. And yes it's skill to bhop really fast etc but nobody is perfect at doing so, that's why some of it is luck. For my part, couldn't care less for <25s maps, they show zero of your actual talent in KZ.

25 Mar 2010, 14:48

Supa, I see your point. Whenever I want to beat a map, I most definitely mustn't watch the world record demo because that would be uninnovative. So basically, I have to find all bhops and shortcuts myself. I don't think that was ever done in the past though, so I don't get why you're saying that KZ is becoming uninnovative, as if it ever was. Since when innovativity has had any worth in the KZ climbing scene anyway? It's a 9 second map, why do you expect him to do anything different from you? I didn't see the demo but quite surely there aren't many new things to find in that map anyway, it's probably damn hard to find one at least. My point wasn't that he was necessarily fast, but his time differed 0,5 seconds in a 9 second map. Percentually that is a damn huge improvement comparing to the other records in this release, how can you even claim that he didn't find a new way to do something? It's not like he just hoped for a 0,5 seconds better time... That just sounds weird. People copy everybody else's runs in practically every single world record demo, I don't see how this is the "new age of KZ", it's always been this way. As for Gargoyle, there's no such thing as luck in the KZ world (except for a few maps such as clintmo_falling and kz_mages_courtyard) as there are pretty few things that depend on chance, it's all skill. I thought it was obvious that the one who gets the fastest time is the most skilled, not the luckiest, guy. The effect of the new rule is actually the perfect opposite of what you said. Before it was completely about luck whether you get a xx:xx.99 real time or get a timerbug to show a smaller time in the timer, now it's completely about the real time, everyone has equal chances. I have to disagree with your opinion about <25s maps, they just showcase a different style of KZ. It's all about very economic movements and making every strafe perfect. <6s maps mostly are quite tasteless though (clintmo_longjumper is an exception in my opinion) because they rely mostly on pressing the timer on the exact right time. [/facepalm]

25 Mar 2010, 16:27

Yeah well I must disagree with you on the "I thought it was obvious that the one who gets the fastest time is the most skilled" I really doubt that Hitlooser is in Supas level of KZ skill yet. By "really doubt that" I mean not even close. But he can get better, just not that hes better. And yes there is a shit load of luck in the KZ world, you cannot say it's 100% skill when ANYONE does a perfect run in any map. There is luck in every demo out there, it might just be minor and insignificant but human is not a robot who can execute every command at the exact time and place for the rest of the eternity. A human cannot bhop perfectly everytime for 10 straight hours. Just because some people are better then others doesn't mean they are more lucky, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if there is 0 luck in KZ human would be a robot... But seriously I think it's naive to believe KZ has no luck, ofcourse it has luck. Life has luck and all that luck just dissapates when in a game?

25 Mar 2010, 17:12

I'm not saying that human is a robot or anything, but sure, a human is inconsistent. You can practise consistency so it's not the same thing as luck. I guess you could say that if someone is inconsistent but nevertheless manages to pull out a nice run, he is lucky, but I don't see how that relates in any way to the the new rule. It all pretty much depends on how you want to imagine the situation. One could say there is no luck because very few things in KZ depend on random factors, nothing happens unless the player does it, right? Everything is directly controlled by the player (on most maps, that is). That's the situation when you only take in account what happens in the computer. However, you can bring it further by taking in account biological limitations of a human being; A player most probably can't replicate the exact same movement twice, there is always an inconsistency of a sort. These inconsistencies are quite uncontrollable and random, so depending on your definition of luck, they can be called luck. I agree, my example wasn't good, judging by a single result it's hard to say who is the most skilled player. Nevermind that. Definitely the player isn't necessarily the luckiest either, though. Although this goes terribly off-topic, I have to say I personally think luck or chance doesn't exist, everything that happens is based on something logical. It's very close to chance/luck/randomness, but it's not that.

25 Mar 2010, 17:15

Supa, ok i agree that i copied your style, imo fastest way than you've invented isn't here, but it's not exactly same run as your, i improved last jump and get faster. Sorry for it

25 Mar 2010, 17:38

True Flibo, I don't like the word "luck" cause it doesn't describe the situation fully, like you said it's much more then a single self explanatory words, consisting of many variables. What I was trying to say that no demo has ever been made that was: 1. unbeatable 2. absolute perfect time 3. measure of how good jumper anyone is. Every recorder could improve their time, it's just about how much are you willing to work for it. To achieve all of those three things you need 'luck'. And that is everything you described above. Because you can get close to filling those three things I like to say there is 'luck' in this game we play. And yes, truly off topic ^^ sorry for that.

25 Mar 2010, 17:49

Hitlooser, don't be sorry for taking this world record. Its just so crystal clear to me that the fastest time deserves to be the world record. Its pure stupidity to say otherwise, even if it has something to do with luck or not. In my opinion its never entirely luck, but any map always requires a small hint of luck. I kind of agree with your offstopic statement about you thinking that luck/chance/randomness doesn't exist and they are all based on something logical. The definition of luck can be quite loose if you inspect it further, you can claim anything as skill even though it contains some of this "luck". For example today I threw a snowball and aimed at a flagpole, I hit it with the first throw from ~20 meters RIGHT in the middle of the flagpole. That was, in my opinion, lucky, since there are many factors that affect the snowballs "way of behaving" whilst airborne, however subconsciously my brains might've calculated everything up and made the throw "completely controlled and skillfully mastered" - as you said earlier, humans are inconsistent, attempting to throw snowballs at a certain target requires a certain amount of luck even if you are good at throwing/aiming. P.S: Funny note, usually when I write a comment/post/thread I regret it instantly after submitting it, I'm sure this will happen right after I click "Submit comment" now.

25 Mar 2010, 21:39

i never said the fastest time shouldn't be the wr.. its just sad to see world records beat without anything new in them.

25 Mar 2010, 21:44

but it was bit different

25 Mar 2010, 21:59

OSAMA BINLADEN

25 Mar 2010, 22:01

Take a look at those car racing games. The runs are about always "the same".

25 Mar 2010, 22:44

good job ndR.

25 Mar 2010, 23:51

GJ ARG GJ BOCA JUNIORS 2 RIVER 0 :D

26 Mar 2010, 11:46

It's matter of few short maps that are less than 10% of all maps which will be improved by copying almost the same way. Other maps still have place where we will see many innovative/nice elements though.

26 Mar 2010, 16:45

I never copied anyone on short maps. so there. @hitlooser you started on the same fu cking block as me and went the same direction and used the same blocks. What is there unique? nothing!

26 Mar 2010, 19:20

@ supa , disagreed. i think doing the exact same run as the previous record holder and doing it faster, shows way more skill of a kzer. Anybody can implement a new 2+sec shortcut or a bhop combo that no one else was aware of and establish a new record. I understand it might be exciting for you to watch, but skillwise it doesn't show much, if anything at all. On the other hand, if someone were to watch a record, imitate it completely jump for jump AND finish faster, well that's a different story. This is why kelta's goldbhop demo amazed me so much. Not only did kelta not introduce any new bhop combos/scs he even made LESS bunny hops than hel^_X, and still finished 1 second faster! Kelta convincingly demonstrated that he is one level above everybody else in bhopping with that demo, imo.

26 Mar 2010, 19:46

GJ All

1 Apr 2010, 04:39

my record! D:

1 Apr 2010, 16:04

osamaa! brazil!!!

4 Apr 2010, 02:44

Crazy

3 Oct 2010, 12:21

woohoo nice release 34 demos!!