34 New World Records

By ndR moviemaker Tournament #2·
Memories

kz_kzsca_toonworld2 done in ( 05:53.41 ziper )
kz_cup_storage done in ( 02:12.59 KeltA )
kz_conveyor done in ( 02:48.91 mgD )
kz_kzsca_cons done in ( 03:56.54 ePEli )
kz_kzsca_downtown done in ( 04:29.47 jahasunsa )

M@UGLI

kz_dbh_pipehop done in ( 01:48.52 shNz )

koukouz

bk_icerock done in ( 02:10.33 mgD )
kz_christmas done in ( 08:12.22 puppetz )
kz_highblock_xp done in ( 04:28.15 sKiCg )
kz_kzfr_mariocastle done in ( 12:21.53 7D )
kz_kzfr_duke done in ( 09:24.78 puppetz )
nfs_longjumpez done in ( 00:25.85 StormZz )
nfs_longjump done in ( 00:26.81 StormZz )

Chasquido

vee_mojave done in ( 02:19.99 kunqui )

insuline

vee_nintendo done in ( 03:56.15 KeltA )

volte

kz_junglemountain done in ( 04:00.03 koukouz )

Hitlooser

kz_bhopwarehouse done in ( 00:09.83 Supa )

pruno

kzfr_bhop_lamborghini done in ( 00:18.55 JAy )

Osama

clintmo_longjumper[x] done in ( 00:05.96 Hanniball )

Skizo_

kz_kzfr_bhopspace done in ( 00:00.74 Np_O )
clintmo_bhopbarrels done in ( 00:19.91 shNz )
kz_man_bhopocean done in ( 00:00.80 Pulsar! )
kz_man_bhopsnow done in ( 00:00.81 HerloTz )
rpz_downfall[boxes] done in ( 00:05.81 faker )

Cypek

kz_ea_waterfall done in ( 03:42.02 Messing )

w1zz

sx_goldrush done in ( 04:25.22 Flibo )

daza

kz_4caves done in ( 05:16.19 sKiCg )

MepH

kzlv_vaz_ujo_h done in ( 01:33.74 Skizo_ )
kz_cg_holodeck done in ( 04:34.73 7D )
kzlv_vaz_ujo_e done in ( 01:31.56 Skizo_ )
kz_kzdk_delianshop done in ( 02:10.19 mgD )

juanch0x

kz_pacman done in ( 02:43.66 KeltA )
kz_ancientmemories done in ( 02:58.91 KeltA )

kexas

kz_man_bhopdesert done in ( 00:00.89 FuzZerd )

Read the extended news post for demos that were improved or didnt quite make it.

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24/03/2010 02:33:00

Awesome :x

24/03/2010 02:34:00

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

24/03/2010 02:35:00

ARGENTINA -____- !!!!

24/03/2010 02:35:00

GJ me, good bye

24/03/2010 02:36:00

Argentina!

24/03/2010 02:36:00

GJ MEMO JUANCHOX AND CHASQIDO, GJ ARGENTINA!

24/03/2010 02:36:00

Argentina 2010 (H) gj memories, chasquido and koukouz :)

24/03/2010 02:37:00

axn destroyer release, koukouz JUANCHOX CHASQUIDO ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24/03/2010 02:37:00

GJ ALL =D MEMORIES <3 JUANCHOXXX <3 CHASQIDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINA ON FIRE!!!!!!! (L kkz

24/03/2010 02:38:00

gj ndr, good bye gj all, nice release with new system

24/03/2010 02:38:00

oh, forgot sry daza cypek and meph, :>

24/03/2010 02:38:00

Gj chasquido and juanchox. GJ ARGENTINA

24/03/2010 02:40:00

too slow release GJ

24/03/2010 02:40:00

ARGENTINA WONS THIS REALESE

24/03/2010 02:41:00

finaly

24/03/2010 02:41:00

OSAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!! s2222222222222222222222222222222222222222!!

24/03/2010 02:45:00

Yeah, the Brazilian flag is finally present again. Thats awesome. Awesome job Osama!

24/03/2010 02:46:00

GJ [b]MEMORIES[/b] & [b]JUANCH0X![/b] Argentina ftw!!

24/03/2010 02:46:00

Once again, great job ndR. Must comment incredibly lucky demo on kzfr_mariocastle and destroyer demos like pacman. Also, too bad for your fail w1zz, almost 10 seconds gone. Memories, cypek, skizo nicely done! kkz go until you reach 100 :D

24/03/2010 02:49:00

Big big thumbs up for ndR, amazing work you're pulling of there <3

24/03/2010 02:49:00

memories juanch0x chasquido and kunqui :D

nplay1
24/03/2010 02:50:00

nice OSAMA! BRAZIL and all, kkz ,memories,skizo_,cypek,juanchox,daza,meph

24/03/2010 02:50:00

gr8 release ! gj all esp osama + skizo <3

24/03/2010 02:50:00

OMGGGGGGGGG ARGENTINA ! NICE MEMORIES NICE JUANCHOX NICE CHASQUIDO GJ SKIZO, MEPH, KOUKOUZ, CYPEK !!

24/03/2010 02:52:00

ARGENTINA M3N GJ all

24/03/2010 02:52:00

=* osama. 2010 brazilian year!

24/03/2010 02:54:00

Uber release! GJ everybody esp kz.random team <3 ! And ofcourse gj ndR!

24/03/2010 02:56:00

the oldest demo has been beaten yuuppy

24/03/2010 02:58:00

Fucking aye ndR did a great job! Ty! ^^ So happy to see not so familiar names on the post. Well done! Stormzz :'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( come back you crazy ass bunny.

24/03/2010 03:01:00

ndR <3 rip hanni :'(

24/03/2010 03:05:00

t3h argentinian power win!!!

24/03/2010 03:07:00

gj all! Osama =)))))))

24/03/2010 03:07:00

ndr take your time ;)

24/03/2010 03:09:00

ty ndR :) gj skizo!!! <3 \\ Memories machine ;] nice records .

24/03/2010 03:09:00

I still think demos.txt should be updated to the new time system.

24/03/2010 03:12:00

wow sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk~

24/03/2010 03:14:00

M@UGLI !!!!!!!!!!! kuMo !!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB !!!!!!!

24/03/2010 03:20:00

BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

24/03/2010 03:21:00

kelta wins

24/03/2010 03:26:00

fail kumo meph cypek osama skizo pruno arg <3

24/03/2010 03:29:00

ARGENTINA<3 Chasquido<3:$

24/03/2010 03:35:00

meph Oo gj cypek

24/03/2010 03:35:00

Great job everyone, ESPECIALLY mjuuh! clintmo_bhopriver_mjuuh_0019.rar - Wrong filename, read the new demo rules.

24/03/2010 03:42:00

gj Osama :) Memo and kkz monster

24/03/2010 03:44:00

ARGENTINAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :) MEMO s2 JUANCHOX s2 CHASQUIDO s2

24/03/2010 03:57:00

Pruno!! <3 nice

24/03/2010 03:59:00

just saw pruno's demo, fucking amazing

24/03/2010 04:17:00

GJ Memo,Juanch0x and Chasqido :D:D::D:D:D: ARGENTINA!!!

24/03/2010 04:34:00

GJ ndR!!! awesome juanchox! BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLL o//// thanks all

24/03/2010 04:40:00

funny release :D M@UGLI krasavcheg :P

24/03/2010 04:48:00

Nice one , but new system is bad . its like "wow , i beat WR in 00.01 sec , i`m better then koukoz , yeah . yeah" Уныло

24/03/2010 04:50:00

gewd job osama ! x)

24/03/2010 04:52:00

GJ everyone

24/03/2010 04:53:00

gj boca juniors

24/03/2010 04:55:00

welcome Memories

24/03/2010 05:00:00

ARGENTINA FTW ! JUANCHOX s2 MEMORIES s2 Chasquido s2 !!!!

24/03/2010 05:38:00

Good Job ALL :-))

24/03/2010 05:44:00

sick demos:(

24/03/2010 05:44:00

ARGENTINA NICE! MEMORIES SKIZO <3

24/03/2010 05:48:00

Pulsar :(((( It was 1st demo from Russia on xj )*:

24/03/2010 05:58:00

2-3 more releases like that and everything will be on its place(some PERFECT wrs on small maps, so nobody can beat you)

24/03/2010 06:01:00

nice strafes juanchox ;)

24/03/2010 06:02:00

best release when i see. [color=#cc0000]Skizo_ [/color] Np_O coming soon on axn ?

24/03/2010 06:28:00

AWESOOME! nice ndR, Gj Skizo,kkz,Meph

24/03/2010 06:34:00

Sick!

24/03/2010 06:35:00

AWESOOME! nice ndR, Gj Skizo,kkz,Meph, M@UGLI

24/03/2010 06:44:00

M@UGLI nice!

24/03/2010 06:55:00

<3 [b]insuline[/b], [b]Cypek[/b]!

24/03/2010 07:13:00

Hitlooser <3

24/03/2010 07:25:00

kexas! Lithuania has wr again

GJ Hitlooser!

24/03/2010 07:32:00

hannibal :(:(

24/03/2010 07:42:00

GJ Memories , M@UGLI , kokouz , insuline , volte , Cypek , w1zz , daza , MepH , juanch0x :)

24/03/2010 07:57:00

GJ guys. Indeed m0ver, there's a link at the end of the demo with a 0407 fail :\

24/03/2010 08:17:00

GJ Hitlooser for copying my exact run and not implementing anything different. The new age of kz :)

24/03/2010 08:26:00

'clintmo_bhopriver_mjuuh_0019.rar - Wrong filename, read the new demo rules.'' BUT ITS MJUUH =(

24/03/2010 08:30:00

god argentinians are annoying.... "ARGENTINA JAJAJAJAJAJJA HASTA FUEGO JAJAJAJAJ"

24/03/2010 08:34:00

Good job guys, especially [b]ndR[/b] :) <3

24/03/2010 08:37:00

Well done ndR. Nice seeing you spending so much time on this community. Wouldn't be the same without you.

24/03/2010 08:45:00

<3 [b]M@UGLI[/b] <3 :happy: :first:

24/03/2010 09:00:00

gj skizo <3 w1zz nice run and gj to others that did their 1st wr!

24/03/2010 09:09:00

wtf billz?

24/03/2010 09:14:00

Great job ndR.

24/03/2010 09:17:00

holy shit awesome rls gj ndR` and all jumpers

24/03/2010 09:21:00

where is kelta? :((((((((((((((( gj all other tho

24/03/2010 09:31:00

there go the legends, welcome to the " omg i beat the oldest demo, im a legend now, eh, am i? oh fuck im not :( "

24/03/2010 09:32:00

sry for double, but keep on making new wr movies and battle movies where a demo is 00.00,01 seconds better, goldmine!

24/03/2010 09:44:00

gj guys . Goodbye Pruno hahahahha

24/03/2010 09:47:00

GJ ndR :). And bye to some old WR holders ^^ Add kz_aztecblock_b02 also then! Was also removed cuz bugged timer if i remember corectly also.

24/03/2010 10:10:00

OMG! can't wait to get home and watch them all! sick sick sick! gj ndR! <3

24/03/2010 10:24:00

gj all, esp ndR!

24/03/2010 10:25:00

i told you osama! :P

24/03/2010 10:26:00

Hitlooser GJ for first (CZ)? WR Hannibal :( the oldest demo is gone. GJ others.

24/03/2010 10:33:00

hanniball :(

24/03/2010 10:39:00

Best relase of all time

24/03/2010 11:01:00

volte cypek daza meph <3 gj boyz!

24/03/2010 11:09:00

gj all! Skizo!

24/03/2010 11:09:00

oh shit, osama made a record! gj every1. nice that ae_strafers is back, that map is the_funny. :D

24/03/2010 11:23:00

I thought showpre isn't allowed. :F

24/03/2010 11:30:00

KEXAS THE HERO !!!!

24/03/2010 11:43:00

gj hitlooser, supa crymode off pls kthx

24/03/2010 11:53:00

That's 1337 realise :D gj all

24/03/2010 12:07:00

Gj daza ! and the rest of you as well :D - To all the world that depend on the decimal system -.-'

24/03/2010 12:10:00

gj all, nice demos, nice job ndR! @ Adantoud, i thought same as you.

24/03/2010 12:12:00

gj all esp. ndR! Osama insane clintmo meph<3:D nice :D Hitlooser :D:D:D ;) volte , Cypek very nice !:D but my favorite is kexas ;) very big gj for you :D 0.56 insane on higher bhopdesert

24/03/2010 12:29:00

Oh! great job you've done ndR` :D

24/03/2010 12:45:00

[b]Hitlooser <3[/b]

24/03/2010 12:56:00

[b]INSULINE !!!![/b]

24/03/2010 13:04:00

RESPECT ALL Q_Q

24/03/2010 13:05:00

[b][size=36][color=#3399ff][center]ndR[/center][/color][/size][/b]

24/03/2010 13:07:00

[b]kexas <3[/b]

24/03/2010 13:12:00

M@UGli !!! ebashor!

24/03/2010 13:15:00

memories, wow first WRS :D cypek, meph and juan ;)

24/03/2010 13:21:00

kexas ;oooo gj all ofc

24/03/2010 13:26:00

congrats hitlooser for your first world record.

24/03/2010 13:26:00

RIP StormZz, faker and Hanniball

24/03/2010 13:32:00

STORMZZ,Pulsar,JAy RIP :(

24/03/2010 13:34:00

Gj insuline for 1st wr!

24/03/2010 13:34:00

good job ALL !! :]

24/03/2010 13:54:00

gz , kexas in action !

24/03/2010 14:17:00

gj all, esp. Hitlooser

24/03/2010 14:29:00

hands up for mr. kexas! GJ everyone else too XD

24/03/2010 14:45:00

what happens with showpre?

24/03/2010 14:45:00

Goodjob ;)

24/03/2010 14:50:00

sorry, some1 just told me to upload it so I did (without reading the newspost ofc.)

24/03/2010 14:51:00

great job all!

24/03/2010 14:53:00

daza :) rising star! I think everyone expected a great release when it took so long, and this indeed was a great realease :)

24/03/2010 15:00:00

mjuuh:< reupload awmagad!

24/03/2010 15:42:00

M@UGLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Argentina attack awesomeness!Memories very nice demos.Skizo and juan nice as well.Uber release

24/03/2010 15:51:00

bhopbarrels=showpre

24/03/2010 15:57:00

Nice insuline!

24/03/2010 16:04:00

StormZz, Hanniball, faker = germany R.I.P. :( bye

24/03/2010 16:25:00

Holy mada fakin release oO GJ ALL !!!

24/03/2010 16:25:00

gj all! very nice Skizo:dance:

24/03/2010 16:25:00

gj all and ndr

24/03/2010 16:33:00

gj all esp kkz & meph.

24/03/2010 16:35:00

[blockquote]Dragon: supa crymode off pls kthx [/blockquote] lol another e-peen boy.

24/03/2010 16:37:00

gj memories ! & juanch0x

24/03/2010 16:52:00

cant wait to watch another rpz downfall next release !!

24/03/2010 16:57:00

[b]KEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!![/b][u][/u][color=#cc0000][/color]

24/03/2010 17:09:00

[b]KEXAS N1[/b] [flag]lt[/flag]

24/03/2010 17:11:00

Yeah, the Brazilian flag is finally present again. Thats awesome. Awesome job Osama!

24/03/2010 17:26:00

mjuuh is back? :o

24/03/2010 17:42:00

juanchox! <3 Memories! <3333333333333333333333333 puto Chasquido ;D

24/03/2010 17:45:00

[size=36][b]Go random![/b][/size]

24/03/2010 17:45:00

kz_kzsca_downtown done in 04:22.39 ( 04:29.47 jahasunsa ) jaha will take it back!

24/03/2010 17:57:00

M@UGLI First pulled) gj! :up:

24/03/2010 17:58:00

insuline , cypek <3 :D

24/03/2010 17:59:00

gj kexas !!

24/03/2010 18:04:00

KZCZ <3 Hitlooser

24/03/2010 18:07:00

mjuuh is not back, year old demo. And yeh gogo top5 with 10s demos! ...:S

24/03/2010 18:10:00

:( M@UGLI, gj!!!

24/03/2010 18:33:00

Congrats, kexas!

24/03/2010 18:40:00

gj ndR ;)

24/03/2010 18:55:00

Good job, kexas!!!

24/03/2010 18:58:00

mephhhhhhh S2 ndrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr S2 Nice on pacman and pipehop.

24/03/2010 19:02:00

haha skizo noob

24/03/2010 19:03:00

GJ memo :0 congrats

24/03/2010 19:14:00

I lulz at Supa's impotency.

24/03/2010 19:25:00

gj all esp argentina

24/03/2010 19:26:00

cry more supa pls , we have good fun from you on kzsk :D look how many people lost their records in a retarded way but you're the only one complaining :D

24/03/2010 19:51:00

skizo nice fail kz_man_bhopsnow_Skizo__0000.69.rar kz_man_bhopsnow__Skizo_0000.69.rar

24/03/2010 20:10:00

M@UGLI!!!!!!!!

24/03/2010 20:11:00

Dragon, it was Supa's record so it's up to him to decide wether to complain or not. Who are you to judge him? Why don't you go laugh at kzsk and mind your own business?

24/03/2010 20:31:00

[blockquote]I lulz at Supa's impotency. [/blockquote] Another 10 yr old e-peen trying to use big english words that make no sense. :facepalm:

24/03/2010 20:32:00

Stefkicha he wanted to point out that Supa is ~24 yo and this is just a game so it was a lame whining.

24/03/2010 20:47:00

[blockquote]GJ Hitlooser for copying my exact run and not implementing anything different. The new age of kz[/blockquote] +1

24/03/2010 20:51:00

haha supa rofl :D:D:D:D

24/03/2010 20:57:00

w00t demos! all under 20s maps pwned

24/03/2010 21:00:00

gg noobs! gj ndr :)

24/03/2010 21:07:00

buena chasquido!

24/03/2010 21:23:00

In this demo archive kzlv_vaz_ujo_h_MepH_0133.16.rar Its also added kz_kzdk_delianshop_MepH_0210.06.rar :d

24/03/2010 21:34:00

KEEEEEEXAS

24/03/2010 21:41:00

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24/03/2010 21:50:00

weeeeeeee me likes this xDD

25/03/2010 00:23:00

gj memories, chasquido and juanch0x <3 argentina ftw <3 finally juanch0x u did a great run with my sc in pacman! :D

25/03/2010 00:54:00

Thanks, Skizo, but that is probably the lamest wr on xj :)

25/03/2010 01:51:00

osamaaa !!! brazil ! finally : )

25/03/2010 07:29:00

volvio Argentina :O

25/03/2010 07:52:00

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25/03/2010 08:16:00

Supa are you serious? He was 0,5 seconds faster than you in a 9 seconds long map. You don't think that's enough of an improvement?

25/03/2010 08:24:00

*SADFACE*

25/03/2010 09:28:00

wow nice esp meph

25/03/2010 12:02:00

We're nothin' to you but we're the fuckin' shit in they eyes That's why we seize the moment try to freeze it and own it, squeeze it and hold it Cause we consider these minutes golden And maybe they'll admit it when we're gone Just let our spirits live on

25/03/2010 12:30:00

Goodbye hanniball :)

25/03/2010 12:42:00

M@UGLI gj gj all nice relize Ukraine <3

25/03/2010 13:23:00

[blockquote]Supa are you serious? He was 0,5 seconds faster than you in a 9 seconds long map. You don't think that's enough of an improvement? [/blockquote] never said anything about his time not being fast enough... another :facepalm: .. but I did say something about how KZ is going to become a lot less innovative now with people only COPYING other peoples runs without haveing to think of new jumps... new blocks to start from.. and alll that jazz. Doesn't take much effort to watch a demo and then copy it tbh and hope for .5 second better.

25/03/2010 13:59:00

Well the fastest time is the world record, no matter if it has some different stuff implemented in the run. Its how it should've always gone. :-=SAD

25/03/2010 14:19:00

I see that logic what Supa is saying, Tonic had similar reaction when I told that XJ implemented decimals to world records. "Thats stupid, it only means who has more luck in the end." And he's kinda right... Both can do 100 runs and the one with few better or just one better bhop can win the record. And yes it's skill to bhop really fast etc but nobody is perfect at doing so, that's why some of it is luck. For my part, couldn't care less for <25s maps, they show zero of your actual talent in KZ.

25/03/2010 14:48:00

Supa, I see your point. Whenever I want to beat a map, I most definitely mustn't watch the world record demo because that would be uninnovative. So basically, I have to find all bhops and shortcuts myself. I don't think that was ever done in the past though, so I don't get why you're saying that KZ is becoming uninnovative, as if it ever was. Since when innovativity has had any worth in the KZ climbing scene anyway? It's a 9 second map, why do you expect him to do anything different from you? I didn't see the demo but quite surely there aren't many new things to find in that map anyway, it's probably damn hard to find one at least. My point wasn't that he was necessarily fast, but his time differed 0,5 seconds in a 9 second map. Percentually that is a damn huge improvement comparing to the other records in this release, how can you even claim that he didn't find a new way to do something? It's not like he just hoped for a 0,5 seconds better time... That just sounds weird. People copy everybody else's runs in practically every single world record demo, I don't see how this is the "new age of KZ", it's always been this way. As for Gargoyle, there's no such thing as luck in the KZ world (except for a few maps such as clintmo_falling and kz_mages_courtyard) as there are pretty few things that depend on chance, it's all skill. I thought it was obvious that the one who gets the fastest time is the most skilled, not the luckiest, guy. The effect of the new rule is actually the perfect opposite of what you said. Before it was completely about luck whether you get a xx:xx.99 real time or get a timerbug to show a smaller time in the timer, now it's completely about the real time, everyone has equal chances. I have to disagree with your opinion about <25s maps, they just showcase a different style of KZ. It's all about very economic movements and making every strafe perfect. <6s maps mostly are quite tasteless though (clintmo_longjumper is an exception in my opinion) because they rely mostly on pressing the timer on the exact right time. [/facepalm]

25/03/2010 16:27:00

Yeah well I must disagree with you on the "I thought it was obvious that the one who gets the fastest time is the most skilled" I really doubt that Hitlooser is in Supas level of KZ skill yet. By "really doubt that" I mean not even close. But he can get better, just not that hes better. And yes there is a shit load of luck in the KZ world, you cannot say it's 100% skill when ANYONE does a perfect run in any map. There is luck in every demo out there, it might just be minor and insignificant but human is not a robot who can execute every command at the exact time and place for the rest of the eternity. A human cannot bhop perfectly everytime for 10 straight hours. Just because some people are better then others doesn't mean they are more lucky, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if there is 0 luck in KZ human would be a robot... But seriously I think it's naive to believe KZ has no luck, ofcourse it has luck. Life has luck and all that luck just dissapates when in a game?

25/03/2010 17:12:00

I'm not saying that human is a robot or anything, but sure, a human is inconsistent. You can practise consistency so it's not the same thing as luck. I guess you could say that if someone is inconsistent but nevertheless manages to pull out a nice run, he is lucky, but I don't see how that relates in any way to the the new rule. It all pretty much depends on how you want to imagine the situation. One could say there is no luck because very few things in KZ depend on random factors, nothing happens unless the player does it, right? Everything is directly controlled by the player (on most maps, that is). That's the situation when you only take in account what happens in the computer. However, you can bring it further by taking in account biological limitations of a human being; A player most probably can't replicate the exact same movement twice, there is always an inconsistency of a sort. These inconsistencies are quite uncontrollable and random, so depending on your definition of luck, they can be called luck. I agree, my example wasn't good, judging by a single result it's hard to say who is the most skilled player. Nevermind that. Definitely the player isn't necessarily the luckiest either, though. Although this goes terribly off-topic, I have to say I personally think luck or chance doesn't exist, everything that happens is based on something logical. It's very close to chance/luck/randomness, but it's not that.

25/03/2010 17:15:00

Supa, ok i agree that i copied your style, imo fastest way than you've invented isn't here, but it's not exactly same run as your, i improved last jump and get faster. Sorry for it

25/03/2010 17:38:00

True Flibo, I don't like the word "luck" cause it doesn't describe the situation fully, like you said it's much more then a single self explanatory words, consisting of many variables. What I was trying to say that no demo has ever been made that was: 1. unbeatable 2. absolute perfect time 3. measure of how good jumper anyone is. Every recorder could improve their time, it's just about how much are you willing to work for it. To achieve all of those three things you need 'luck'. And that is everything you described above. Because you can get close to filling those three things I like to say there is 'luck' in this game we play. And yes, truly off topic ^^ sorry for that.

25/03/2010 17:49:00

Hitlooser, don't be sorry for taking this world record. Its just so crystal clear to me that the fastest time deserves to be the world record. Its pure stupidity to say otherwise, even if it has something to do with luck or not. In my opinion its never entirely luck, but any map always requires a small hint of luck. I kind of agree with your offstopic statement about you thinking that luck/chance/randomness doesn't exist and they are all based on something logical. The definition of luck can be quite loose if you inspect it further, you can claim anything as skill even though it contains some of this "luck". For example today I threw a snowball and aimed at a flagpole, I hit it with the first throw from ~20 meters RIGHT in the middle of the flagpole. That was, in my opinion, lucky, since there are many factors that affect the snowballs "way of behaving" whilst airborne, however subconsciously my brains might've calculated everything up and made the throw "completely controlled and skillfully mastered" - as you said earlier, humans are inconsistent, attempting to throw snowballs at a certain target requires a certain amount of luck even if you are good at throwing/aiming. P.S: Funny note, usually when I write a comment/post/thread I regret it instantly after submitting it, I'm sure this will happen right after I click "Submit comment" now.

25/03/2010 21:39:00

i never said the fastest time shouldn't be the wr.. its just sad to see world records beat without anything new in them.

25/03/2010 21:44:00

but it was bit different

25/03/2010 21:59:00

OSAMA BINLADEN

25/03/2010 22:01:00

Take a look at those car racing games. The runs are about always "the same".

25/03/2010 22:44:00

good job ndR.

25/03/2010 23:51:00

GJ ARG GJ BOCA JUNIORS 2 RIVER 0 :D

26/03/2010 11:46:00

It's matter of few short maps that are less than 10% of all maps which will be improved by copying almost the same way. Other maps still have place where we will see many innovative/nice elements though.

26/03/2010 16:45:00

I never copied anyone on short maps. so there. @hitlooser you started on the same fu cking block as me and went the same direction and used the same blocks. What is there unique? nothing!

26/03/2010 19:20:00

@ supa , disagreed. i think doing the exact same run as the previous record holder and doing it faster, shows way more skill of a kzer. Anybody can implement a new 2+sec shortcut or a bhop combo that no one else was aware of and establish a new record. I understand it might be exciting for you to watch, but skillwise it doesn't show much, if anything at all. On the other hand, if someone were to watch a record, imitate it completely jump for jump AND finish faster, well that's a different story. This is why kelta's goldbhop demo amazed me so much. Not only did kelta not introduce any new bhop combos/scs he even made LESS bunny hops than hel^_X, and still finished 1 second faster! Kelta convincingly demonstrated that he is one level above everybody else in bhopping with that demo, imo.

26/03/2010 19:46:00

GJ All

01/04/2010 04:39:00

my record! D:

01/04/2010 16:04:00

osamaa! brazil!!!

04/04/2010 02:44:00

Crazy

03/10/2010 12:21:00

woohoo nice release 34 demos!!