Rules update regarding milliseconds, Update*

By faker mapper·
Hey guys,

due to recent developments 2 new rules had to be implemented.

1. The first rule is covering the situation when two records with the same times up to two decimal places (00.00.50 for example) get submitted in the very same release. What to do in such a situation?

New set of rules:

The XJ record system is using a real time time-measurment system allowing millisecond times up to 2 decimals!
It's not possible to beat demos with faster times in the third decimal place (.00x), if there are two demos with the same times in the first two decimal places the first submitted demo will be accepted (first come first serve).
-> This is based on the fact that the demand interval of the hl engine is not capable of giving solid and valid times beyond the second decimal place 100% of the time (then again timeshifts would be happening in some cases, which would be way harder to determine than the old timerbugs, since they are happening in the decimal areas): Because of the quantization of time measurement in the hl engine in 0.01s intervals the mean error of one time measurement is 0.005s. So the statistical variance for the measured record time is Sqrt[2*0.005^2] = 0.0071. Every time difference smaller than the statistical variance is not significant and only based on statistical effects so it is likely to have occurred only by chance.


2. Obviously the rule that forbid all AMXX plugins was an April Fool that was related to kz.ee's April Fool (newspost). Too bad only a few people understood the connection, that's probably why most of you though it's a boring joke.

/!\ APRIL FOOLS /!\

You are NOT allowed to use metamod or AMXX plugins in your record demos in any way!

/!\ APRIL FOOLS /!\

3. However, I want to use this chance and newspost to explain a few other things. Due to the recent poll simple switch-binds won't be forbidden and won't fall under the following rule:

You are not allowed to use any script or metamod or amxx plugins that give you an advantage to other jumpers.

Please note that scripts with +use;wait etc., however DO fall under this rule rule.

This rules is also relevant when talking about plugins such as jump_prestraf.amxx, which falls under this rule, too. Two demos including this plugin were accidentally accepted by one of our demo admins in the previous releases, probably because he didn't think about this problem: Obviously, all other jumpers didn't have access to this plugin before it was released, also it gives you information about your strafes that are not available with default cs configuration. This information can be used to estimate and see how you have to strafe to get a perfect bhop pre or lj pre (on small areas or maps with bhop ljs)... next time you try to copy it to get the same pre. This makes it two advantages and explains why the plugin never was and never will be allowed.

Note: The two corresponding demos on clintmo_bhopbarrels kz_bhopwarehouse will be removed and the old records will be restored.

Best regards,
XJ Staff

P.S: To read the full text of the edited rules check the extended newspost!

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01/04/2010 12:51:00

?

01/04/2010 12:52:00

Sad news :(

01/04/2010 12:52:00

:D

01/04/2010 12:53:00

lol i don't quite get everything does this mean we can't use any plugins in record demos at all? not even /start ?

01/04/2010 12:54:00

Gj for the news. Can we still use "Official XJ AMXX pack v2.1" while recording ?

01/04/2010 12:55:00

why not allowed to use amxx plugins but timer plugin, which is amxx plugin too, is allowed? gay :ASD

01/04/2010 12:57:00

Hello`

01/04/2010 12:58:00

1st april, the plugin thingy is one of them jokes ( I THINK)

01/04/2010 13:00:00

Wait, What? U guys serious? :O

01/04/2010 13:05:00

isn't joke :D faker did tell for me he will post this after on kz_man_Bhopocean was the same time for me like wameras my time was 0.501 his 0.502, but after he did talk with eDark and he said for him , 3rd decimal always buggy in 75% , so isnt joke :)

01/04/2010 13:08:00

we'll see tomorrow... :D

01/04/2010 13:11:00

AMXX thingy is a joke fosho.

01/04/2010 13:14:00

hopefully

01/04/2010 13:29:00

fagz :)

01/04/2010 13:29:00

wtf no /start , no nothing ?

01/04/2010 13:32:00

you are NOT allowed to use Counter-Strike in your record demos in any way!

01/04/2010 13:45:00

Hope You Ill Not. Your April joke will be fun. Sorry eng

01/04/2010 13:46:00

Looks like 1 April joke lawl

01/04/2010 13:46:00

hahah hoLy, at least as funny as the amxx thing :D btw the joke is kind of obvious :/ something more subtle and worked like the spr1n joke would have been more credible

01/04/2010 13:46:00

Last year's joke was kicking butt, this is just weak xD GJ anyway ;)

01/04/2010 13:47:00

oh shit :D

01/04/2010 13:58:00

APRIL FOOLS

01/04/2010 13:58:00

its already old about spr1n

01/04/2010 14:00:00

+ the forbidding of metamod or amxx plugin has all to do with the haxx possible to script -.-

01/04/2010 14:07:00

akkord explain this monster then. [b]To check the real times performed in your demos either use the Official XJ AMXX pack v2 in your run[/b], or use the DemoChecker after the demo was recorded (or both, if you want to be sure). -> If different times are shown (caused by massive ingame lags, for example) the DemoChecker time will always be more accurate and therefore overrule the plugin time. - Demo rules [b]// General rules You are NOT allowed to use metamod or AMXX plugins in your record demos in any way![/b]

01/04/2010 14:09:00

to the second rule: nice joke, but improveable...it's kinda obvious :)

01/04/2010 14:18:00

April Fool's Day :)

01/04/2010 14:19:00

big care fish april jokes are dead for me and i dont really car if i fall for them cause i dont even know what day is when i wake up the next morning

01/04/2010 14:25:00

fail joke.

01/04/2010 14:39:00

APRIIIIL :D

01/04/2010 15:19:00

no more interesting joke than removed lj-thread last year ^^

01/04/2010 15:44:00

That joke was invented in a rush, I hope atleast, because it's a big controversy to the 'actual' news you've provided. Or maybe that was the point! Mrrr. I'd guess they're leaving spr1n and xpaw scoop for tomorrow so people wouldn't believe it's an april fools joke. If it's really true, those who believed that spr1n was cheating (as far as I know not so many people) are going to have a field day going: "I TOLD YOU SO". Rofl, can't wait for the flame in the comments. But yeh, the real rule update kinda sucks, but, what can you do when the 3rd is buggy :< never liked the "dibs"- rule, anyways most likely this will only affect the 0000 maps, so who cares? ^^

01/04/2010 16:07:00

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH APRIL FOOL XDDDH HAHAHHAHAHAAHA

01/04/2010 16:08:00

shit :D

01/04/2010 16:13:00

fail april fool are fail.

01/04/2010 16:20:00

Is it just me or the italic text in the newsposts is kinda hard to read?

01/04/2010 16:23:00

It will be funny tomorrow, rule wont be removed

01/04/2010 16:25:00

haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha... this...... didn't make my day

01/04/2010 16:53:00

kai bai

01/04/2010 16:58:00

nubs.

01/04/2010 17:14:00

fail

01/04/2010 17:14:00

h, xtrm jmps scks, b

01/04/2010 17:25:00

cool story bro fail

1st april without joke on XJ? never

01/04/2010 17:47:00

New set of rules: You are NOT allowed to use metamod or AMXX plugins in your record demos in any way! thats all because of spr1n ...

01/04/2010 17:51:00

failz0r? You are [b]NOT allowed to use metamod or AMXX plugins[/b] in your record demos in any way! To check the real times performed in your demos either use the [b]Official XJ AMXX[/b] pack v2 in your run, or use the DemoChecker after the demo was recorded (or both, if you want to be sure).

01/04/2010 18:42:00

[color=#cc3399][size=18][b]spr1n motherf*cker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b][/size][/color]

01/04/2010 18:48:00

you guys are making us sick with this kind of jokes...

01/04/2010 18:57:00

i dont care if this is or not a joke .... [color=#0099ff][b][size=22]SPR1N HAX0R[/size][/b][/color]

01/04/2010 19:02:00

[size=36]SPR1N FUCKING NOOB CHEATER, OMG[/size]

01/04/2010 19:15:00

Weak. You tried though. 10/10 for effort.

01/04/2010 19:31:00

Sure sure sure.

01/04/2010 19:49:00

didnt understand a shit.. hope it is a joke

01/04/2010 20:06:00

APRIL FOOLS !!

01/04/2010 20:44:00

enjoy your ban pizza we all know you cheat fgt

01/04/2010 21:11:00

[size=18][b]...[/b][/size]

01/04/2010 21:13:00

haha, i hope it isn't about me, about Talent Cacalau, because i never cheated ! :D:D But i really hope it will be funny.

01/04/2010 21:13:00

cmon xj admins, we all know its april fools! nobody believe what u say! u've been doing this for yearS!

02/04/2010 00:24:00

yumm

02/04/2010 00:34:00

lol

02/04/2010 01:13:00

spr1n isn`t a cheater.

02/04/2010 02:03:00

word to cAhz0r. between the RL april fools and this one, the most believable was surely the one about a surprise exam. nice try, please come again.

02/04/2010 02:31:00

It would be awesome if they don't remove the rule tomorrow.

02/04/2010 04:07:00

I think the rule that disallows plugins in game is an april fool joke, but the two cheaters are not.

02/04/2010 11:33:00

they will wait 2-3 days for us to start beleve in this xD..... and then.... [size=36][color=#ff0000][b]APRIL FOOL!!![/b][/color][/size]

02/04/2010 11:50:00

ahhaha so dumb joke .. Then WRs like risk_compound and kzno_xtremeblock will be removed? Because it was used the CP/TP thing in the beginning,just to improve the run. LOl,fail. Spr1n is not a cheater(i think so).

02/04/2010 12:44:00

Cobrex, it was an april fool from kz.ee that with spr1n cheating.

02/04/2010 13:20:00

lol, I read this news 2nd of April so I almost believed in it.. xd

02/04/2010 14:40:00

not funny

02/04/2010 14:59:00

Go hitlooser! you can beat it back

02/04/2010 15:08:00

Lol how many people are STILL confused:D

02/04/2010 15:21:00

i hate xj jokes |-(

02/04/2010 15:28:00

what about kz_kzfr_bhopspace_skizo_00:00.67 was that also removed?

02/04/2010 15:40:00

..and zhady does it again, stating the obvious advantage of jump_prestrafe and it changes the admins thoughts about it, and what do I get? I get thrown on the ground, kicked at, spit on... No retreat, technique speak, I'm rather unique.

02/04/2010 15:44:00

Nice rule changes :) GJ zhady

02/04/2010 15:46:00

sad news for me, but i will get it back! no way to stop me

02/04/2010 15:59:00

psychicx that was started from space part :D and thats not legal start position, you need start from stone. :) but dont worry Btw hitlooser for me sad too :( that was my best wr i cant do it again :) Whatever, the kreedz world knows, i have better time, and its the important :)

02/04/2010 16:04:00

It was removed in a previous release already, because he teleported to the right spot on the "boosting ground".

02/04/2010 21:11:00

xD faker u got us !!!

02/04/2010 21:18:00

No he didn't.

03/04/2010 00:59:00

:DASF:ASDF

03/04/2010 08:04:00

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03/04/2010 13:46:00

Yes because bhopping sucks when you have to know how to bhop... -.- Hate all this new shit being integrated to kz these days :/ if it wasn't for XJ's rules, skill would be determined by how well you find or do plugins to help you kz, instead of how well can you climb.

04/04/2010 02:37:00

I knew it!

07/04/2010 21:38:00

:c

08/04/2010 10:29:00

D: