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Another cheater has been found. He's a really famous jumper and also an admin of Xtreme-Jumps. Target- has used a bhopscript in some of his demos. To be exact, in 7 of his 25 demos. Which is 28 percent.

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A statement from Target- is now availible.

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OddYsseus
19 Oct 2005, 20:49

sad, he s a nice guy.

faker mapper
19 Oct 2005, 20:56

yeah he is, what a pitty :(

4knuk
19 Oct 2005, 20:57

he is a Pretty n1 guy ... i cant believe it :(

fischauge
19 Oct 2005, 20:59

i knew it l

4knuk
19 Oct 2005, 20:59

what ?

ernstaugust
19 Oct 2005, 21:01

I can't understand why a pr0gamer like target use such a script -.-

wima
19 Oct 2005, 21:04

hm target u're good guy :( <3

tarGet
19 Oct 2005, 21:04

it was nice to meet u guys.. some of u might call me a cheater.. but i didnt mean to use it on purpose.. it was only to change the colour.. i told the guys but it seems they dont believe me.. doesnt matter now.. cya guys around...

faker mapper
19 Oct 2005, 21:06

yeah it changes color and makes you bhop easier.... edark checked it several times (very deep checks) :(

KNiFEAR
19 Oct 2005, 21:20

lol target r u stop playing kz?, come whit me to teh light side.. KA_ maps ;D, but kz is still fun <3 !dodge

Moos3d
19 Oct 2005, 21:23

Well, maybe you can now jump in my server more often and join PhooGi. :P But if we can't get this FPS death, how do we know admins aren't conspiring to cheat on demos? Uh oh.

HoHo^
19 Oct 2005, 21:23

i still love you .

4knuk
19 Oct 2005, 21:25

ye u right Moos3d :D

crack
19 Oct 2005, 21:26

Moos3d .. nothing more than "+jump" is allowed to bind to your jump key ..

-nightmare-
19 Oct 2005, 21:27

arrr, Target-. i can't imagine you cheated, i think you are pr0 enough to know cheats from crosshair-color-change-scripts :(. keep on playing kz_maps dude, you're still on fire =)

moejoe
19 Oct 2005, 21:35

Why does this script make the bhop easier ? I just use "+jump" but i want to know it =D Hm... Target... :(

p3tsin
19 Oct 2005, 21:42

"with +jump binded on mwheel it takes 3-5 frames to jump again." huh? actually u can jump on every frame with just +jump bound to mwheel. also, i dont get the effect of "wait" in this case, it just doesnt jump till next frame? so the only thing he did wrong was changing the crosshair color..? :O

p3tsin
19 Oct 2005, 21:44

oh, and of course the real bhop-script in greatwall :(

omilo
19 Oct 2005, 21:50

to bad :/ thought he was really good..

donak0s !
19 Oct 2005, 21:54

cheater, ouned

wima
19 Oct 2005, 22:01

omilo, he was and still is really good ! -.-

omilo
19 Oct 2005, 22:19

yeah thats true wima but he still used illegal commands in some demos, wich makes him alot worse :/

fuzzerd
19 Oct 2005, 22:29

he used auto bhop on a demo, I don't think he would have been banned if it wasn't for that 1 demo with auto bhop

insen mapper
19 Oct 2005, 22:30

hmm yeah its the same if u played 100 matches and u cheated in the 51th if the notice it u will be banned because u used cheats it doesnt matter if u played 100000 matches and cheat in just one and so it is in jumping... sv_english 0 ^^

elITe^
19 Oct 2005, 22:55

fuzzerd said: "he used auto bhop on a demo, I don't think he would have been banned if it wasn't for that 1 demo with auto bhop" I'm not sure if that is true, they said it's still a cheat that he used that crosshair thingy.. and they said "a script is a script" But that 1 demo (greatwall) was the 1 demo that makes him a "cheater" :( Only cuz he (cheated, used bhop script) it doesn't make him less good of a player than he already is >.< just like moos3d said b4, Target- ur welcome to PhooGi if u want [size=16]^_^[/size]

ThEBiShOp mapper
19 Oct 2005, 23:10

pls don't scan my demo :s ** joke ** it's sad, as elITe^ said, even if he has cheat in one demo, he's still one of the best jumpers. But a cheater is a cheater :s

moejoe
19 Oct 2005, 23:33

The best way: NEVER TRY A BHOP-SCRIPT ! FikoN said, that it is easier to jump with that strange command... I believe him... cuz he is a pj =D Maybe Target didnt know/notice it.... It didnt know anything like that b4 these news... Target =(!

T3dbundy
19 Oct 2005, 23:43

maybe target is good but the cmd makes bhop easier and on the greatwall demo he used an another script that was a really hardcore bhop script and thats not fair 2 the other jumpers cuz they want records 2 :/

steve
19 Oct 2005, 23:45

agree with ted but i like him anyway

moejoe
20 Oct 2005, 00:01

T3dbundy =(! Ado =(! I also still love Target =(! Target... why ? =(!

Mephisto
20 Oct 2005, 00:23

Target dont ignore this people who stand behind you :). Its a good idea to create these demos again and post it on the forum. Then they will see that you are a non script usin pro jumper. Dont give up and fight for ur right ;)

sucky`tearz
20 Oct 2005, 00:28

i still dont see how you consider anything but the script "cheating", i dont think i would ever consider a key bind a script =p, anyway targets still one of the best and coolest jumpers out there, whatever, you have the support of the phoogi clan if you wanna stop in later :'(

veechee
20 Oct 2005, 00:34

It's okay target, I feel your pain, but they made it a bigger issued than it needed to be, you only really scripted one demo but they said 7, which is not really true. You're still a good jumper and a good guy, but you should'nt of let your demo be put up if you knew it was scripted. hehe oh well, shit happens, much <3! -VeE

s0liD mapper
20 Oct 2005, 06:13

CAn't believe this :(

tsuyosa
20 Oct 2005, 06:46

The one who has no sins may throw the first stone NOW! If there are rumors ppl cannot think on there own. It's easier to believe the rumors to not get punished by others. After the rumors get true all ppl are going to take a stone. They are throwing it on the one which are the rumors about. And that even without thinking about there own sins. And thats everywhere on the world. Think about it. I know a lot of ppl are very young here but i think you guys can understand me. @Target-: Don't give up being a nice person :)! Live in peace. greetz

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 07:28

Would be good if you would stop talking bullshit about that he didn't use a script in 6 of his demos. It gives you an advantage and that is not allowed according to the rules. And we follow the rules.

fuzzerd
20 Oct 2005, 07:41

mwheel gives you an advantage

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 07:57

"Any kinds of jumpscripts (bhopscript, doubleduckscript etc) are strictly forbidden! The only command that your jump key is allowed to be bound to is "+jump"." bind "mwheeldown" "+jump" bind "mwheelup" "+jump" bind "space" "+jump" etc. Those are allowed binds. Everyone can learn to jump with mwheel. Using space would be a disadvantage I guess. But you can suit yourself if you're using it imo.

Perfo
20 Oct 2005, 08:56

Well Target-, I believe you when you say that you did not make it on purpose (except for the script on greatwall). You showed amazing skills on totally legit demos like cathedral_e or redrock and that sounds to me like you can make the 6 wrong demos (I don't count greatwall) again proving people who don't believe you that it was an error you made simply because you only wanted to change the color of your crosshair without knowing it would give you an advantage over other jumpers. To me, you have proved enough with the other great dems and when I have played online with you to show that you are legit and that it was just an error you did without knowing you were using a script (excet greatwall). To me, you are still one of the best jumpers and I wait for your dems in the forum to prove everyone that what I think is the truth. This was only my opinion ;)

clintmo mapper
20 Oct 2005, 10:59

omg, his poor demos, i cant see how using a wait command on bhop can make it any easier, in fact one would think it would make it harder to bhop... as for the chagne crosshair colour, im sure everyone has given that a go, i have, just not in any demos. i think he should be able to post records, hes one of the best jumpers in the world, give him a 2nd chance, im sure everyone has even learnt a thing or two off him, i know ive learnt off his demos. its sad to see someone as good as him banished for what seems a simple mistake.

clintmo mapper
20 Oct 2005, 11:02

and the owtcity demo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i looooove that demo :(, at least i know it can be done that fast :P

comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 12:39

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comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 12:47

and that thingy about cross color change, I can see it (dunno why) when ima viewing that demos (c.h. is changing colors when he use use jump) so if you can see that too than why you just wasnt interested about it and why you didnt ask himself sth as this "why is ur c.h. chaning when u jump/how can u do it..../ what u have binded..." and he would say "i have binded @ my mwheel "+jump;asda;wait" to make ch color change possible" than you would say "sorry but that is not allowed, please redoit w/o this shit kthx gg cu bb np" OMG WTH WTF ROFLOL

DHT- Tournament #1
20 Oct 2005, 13:35

BUHUU :( but your so fking good :)

tsuyosa
20 Oct 2005, 13:45

@Fikon: I don't know if you mean me but if yes I have to sorry, because you did not understand.

raYLa
20 Oct 2005, 13:59

to the other cheaters u say bad words like "burn in hell" and so on. and to target ?! omg ... a script-user is a script-user ...

DHT- Tournament #1
20 Oct 2005, 14:02

raYLa, why ppl say to klzz that his a noob and so on, so on. they say so cuz his not famous but target is.

raYLa
20 Oct 2005, 14:48

learn english .. then i can understand u

DHT- Tournament #1
20 Oct 2005, 14:50

u cant understand me? you should learn english ;)

raYLa
20 Oct 2005, 15:16

omg nc ...

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 15:39

zAnkOkU, I didn't mean you. And I'm asking myself the same question as raYLa...? Why are you telling other cheaters to burn in hell when your telling us to unban Target-? Doesn't matter if Target- is famous. Sure, he's a really good jumper, but that doesn't mean he's allowed to cheat. And it doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not. We can't judge people over the internet if they're speaking the truth or not. Let me make a comparisation. If a sportsman would've eaten drugs to run faster, and when the administration saw his drugs in his test. Would you believe him if he said: "Oh, that must've been from the potatoes I've eaten. And I only ate those for fun. I didn't know someone had put drugs in them."? yeye potatoes sounds lame and isn't really an appropriate thing to compare with because this with the sportsman could've been his wife or something putting it there. But I REALLY doubt that someone else put this in Target-'s config. And if you put something like this in your config, you must check first if it is allowed or not. And remember, people that have been permanently banned from XJ before, have been unbanned... Not saying that Target- will get unbanned but he might.

omilo
20 Oct 2005, 15:40

keep him banned pls...once a cheater always a cheater :).

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 15:42

btw, about the comparisation. (for you who didn't understand) Potatoes = bind "mwheeldown" "+jump; adjust_crosshair; wait" "For fun" is there because Target- said it was fun. "I didn't know it was drugs in them" = I didn't know it wasn't allowed.

raYLa
20 Oct 2005, 16:03

I agree FikoN ... its my opinion, too! I can't say it better.

comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 16:12

yes, agree, but I think that you gave him a good lesson and he will never (and nowtimes with new fpsdeath cannot) cheat, please give him 2nd change (and all others who cheated) and PLEASE let him/them post demos to prove that they r good w/o those shits.

H.o.r.s.t.
20 Oct 2005, 16:17

simply put this into ur cstrike/userconfig.cfg ;) // script alias m_pitch "frase" alias frase "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase1" alias frase1 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase2" alias frase2 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase3" alias frase3 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase4" alias frase4 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase5" alias frase5 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase6" alias frase6 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase7" alias frase7 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase8" alias frase8 "adjust_crosshair; alias m_pitch1 frase9" alias frase9 "alias m_pitch frase" // script ende

comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 16:20

keep it real, this comunity is for fun, with lot of cool ppls who can jump with each other and compare jump skills and learn another one to jump better, it isn't about big money or something else, so imo you may give em 2nd change to be a part of this comunity once again. Now everyone knows that they r fucking abusers or cheaters and thay had a good lesson for future already, give em 1month ban penalty or sth. Imho that will be ok.

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 16:52

They can post demos in the forum whenever they want to :) We can't make them do demos...

maiN
20 Oct 2005, 18:07

target was your friend, right? and now? u banned him out of your life? or what? only because he used a script i a demo? when you are really good friends, you would forgive it him! maybe some other xtj admins used a script? whats happenend, when another admin use a bhopp script on one of your servers, when u played on it and when he is a good friend of u? would u post it??? dunno.... he makes a mistake! every1 makes mistakes! forgive it him sry 4 bad eng :(

comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 18:39

target was admin also lol :)))

invert mapper
20 Oct 2005, 19:17

i always knew this about you target.. and your personality man- change it... this is so lame.. i always knew t3d rocked:P

comegetsome
20 Oct 2005, 19:19

invert my personal opinion about you is that you sux @ all, no offence lol

invert mapper
20 Oct 2005, 19:21

and by the way man, i always knew there was something about that owtcity demo,, it was just too damn bunnyed.. but cheer up man, its gonna be ok! Looks like target isnt so good afterall ;)

4knuk
20 Oct 2005, 19:36

but i dont know ? target got kicked because bhop script and crack joined and he used bhop script , too ? wtf

ernstaugust
20 Oct 2005, 19:57

or just alias m_pitch adjust_crosshair ò_Ó

invert mapper
20 Oct 2005, 20:01

comegetsome, do I know you? Think twice before write little words on your computer... Haven't ever heard about you, that's more sucky in my opinion;)

invert mapper
20 Oct 2005, 20:09

Comegetsome: GIVE HIM THE 2ND CHANCE OMFG SUCKERS AS HE SAID "ernstaugust knew about it, t3d knew about.. " so I logical question 2 ernst and t3d: Did you knew about it ? if yes than why you ppls just didn't removed that FUCKING demo and said him that he had 2 redoit w/o that fucking script you morons??? and I'm sure that didn't know that the stupid crosshair change thingy can give you any advantage! I was trying it @ hopez with and w/o t3h fucking crosshair thingy right now and I dind't noticed anything!!!!! so if it can jump with it better most ppls will probably don't notice it!! why you can't just remove that stupid ''''cheated'''' demos, fuck him off from the admin crew and make news that he was using ilegal scripts and give him a 2nd change. I think that now EVERYONE have a good lesson from it and will never use any kind of autobhop/scri pt/otherforbidenshit . Just delete that demos and give him 2nd change 2 redoit that dems and change 2 post some demos again. Ey guys vote for target's 2nd change! --- Wanna start a fan club? :/

klz
20 Oct 2005, 20:20

Target- , ur cool guy , i understand u cause that happened to me too -.-'. i didnt know that "+jump; wait; -jump" was cheat .. a friend said that to me and i started using it.. didnt know it was cheat.. and now im known as a cheater...

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 20:24

RECH3R, do you read before you post? Obviously not... Who said that we banned Target- out of our lives? We're still friends as far as I know.

silver-
20 Oct 2005, 20:50

HAHAHAHA !

fuzzerd
20 Oct 2005, 21:48

I thought klzz used autobhop from your conversation with him that you posted, now I think klzz should be unbanned.

FikoN
20 Oct 2005, 22:08

the script "+jump; wait; -jump" has been questioned in the chatbox before and the users that asked have been told that this wasn't allowed by an admin. He's just too unlucky to miss it then...

eiRa mapper
20 Oct 2005, 22:14

wow, thats sad...

t0ffo
20 Oct 2005, 23:39

ah 2bad m8 ;/

MASTA_BLASTA
21 Oct 2005, 02:31

i belive in U Target- i was trying that and i never seen diferent between "+jump; adjust_crosshair; wait" and "+jump"

G_nocid[KZFR.net]
21 Oct 2005, 08:12

Try to use a bhop script; develloper 1 or low fps on the KZFR' s serv :) U' ll have a little surprise, that will be even more fun with time

maiN
21 Oct 2005, 13:48

@fikon: it was a question, no predication

KNiFEAR
21 Oct 2005, 14:49

how can u get a perm ban and then l8r get unbanned?, i mean a perm ban is a perm ban aye?, but i think target should get 2 submit demos, he had about 12 demos and now he can't send em in :P wanna see some pwnag3 demos ;)

FikoN
21 Oct 2005, 17:13

Oh! Great argument knifear! I'll make 7 demos with cheat and 12 without cheats, and I'll submit the ones with cheats. And I won't get banned! This is actually the greatest idea I've ever heard! (Make sure that you've noticed the sarcasm before you post.)

comegetsome
21 Oct 2005, 17:32

fikon is scared that his demos will get pwned ;DDD

pyro
21 Oct 2005, 21:46

In memoria of Target- =) cool guy, 2 bad though :(

MASTA_BLASTA
21 Oct 2005, 22:54

maybe somebody don't like [b]rivals[/b]...

FikoN
21 Oct 2005, 23:19

hahahahahaha :D I love these kind of guys :D I hope that was a joke Kapok :D hahahahha The thought of us banning him because we don't want competition when we make records is bizarre :D rofl :) hahahahah

KNiFEAR
22 Oct 2005, 10:06

no fikon u get me wrong, woot i meant was that i like pie

elITe^
22 Oct 2005, 13:30

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KNiFEAR
22 Oct 2005, 17:49

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KNiFEAR
22 Oct 2005, 21:25

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(M.E.O.)St. Jimmy
14 Jan 2007, 06:49

word omilo: "once a cheater always a cheater" and... target -> BURN IN HELL :P

ZombY^_-
21 Mar 2008, 22:03

jimmy you deserve to die no1 has the right to say that target is cheater he doesnt deserve this go hell

iNsprate moviemaker
9 Jul 2013, 10:40

A damn terrible idea imo.

perd0 mapper
9 Jul 2013, 11:00

I can't see how this may be even in consideration.. chatbox and forums are two different things, people will never post the same thing via shoutbox as they would do via forums. Honestly if you close chatbox, I believe you only will raise the level of inactivity. If you want to make the forums popular, or at least try, then yes remove that news banner from there, which looks nice but after couple of site visits is not usefull anymore.. Or tell the design guy to make it smaller (in terms of height) and put both forum bar and the banner on the front page.

amiGGo
9 Jul 2013, 11:14

Yeap perd0 said it all! Closing the chatbox will bring more inactivity than ever.

hm^ mapper VIP
9 Jul 2013, 12:11

I voted for "Terrible idea". Closing the chatbox doesn´t mean, that the forum will become more activity... Closing the chatbox will bring fewer visitors and activity. Really stupid poll, sorry guys.

memekrecord holder
9 Jul 2013, 14:28

Terrible idea, agree with pedro.

ShoCkrecord holder Tournament #2 VIP
9 Jul 2013, 14:29

It initially was me who came up with that idea, after I realized that chatbox kinda hinders forums activity. I bet many of you visit other gaming sites (besides kz ones) none of which have this chatbox thingy but yet people open various threads and the duscussions are going along in a full swing, no matter if it's important news or just a youtube video. Forums have much more space to put your thoughts in properly and not miss a shit, while chatbox's stuff kinda fading away pretty fast and important suff all along with it. Chatbox can't be concetrated on one subject since it's always being discussed various stuff that mixes up and therefore interesting stuff is fading away pretty fast, as a matter of fact. Ofcourse it should be covered up with the latest forum activities in a prominent corner. I do believe it could be a success.

propanelj record holder
9 Jul 2013, 19:35

Closing chatbox will probably double the inactivity on the site. well, closing the chatbox is like removing text messages from phones and starting to use email to communicate.

finzer
9 Jul 2013, 22:21

chatbox is full of worthless crap most of the time. but heh, thats where the fun is. i highly doubt removing it will increase the forum activity. u can always try tho. remove the chatbox for a month, and then weight the pros and cons.

perd0 mapper
9 Jul 2013, 23:05

.. or start some funny small games in the forums, like hide 10 symbols (images) into random posts, set rules and let visitors find them for small prizes, be original ffs. People will discover threads this way and who knows maybe start posting in them again. This was just an example, good one tho :-D

Gargoyle
10 Jul 2013, 20:02

Yeah, well do what you want but chatbox and news releases are the only thing that keeps me still visiting this site. Forum is and always should be an option for those who seek it. Terrible and a dumb idea.

pyro8
11 Jul 2013, 01:41

Bring back old chatbox messages! Past messages erase themselves.

Mehrshad3D
18 Jul 2013, 09:11

What the hell Xj without Chatbox Completely Dead X_X

PepoMerca
19 Jul 2013, 20:10

NO WAY, chatbox is epic

Mallee mapper
22 Jul 2013, 20:49

Might be some good advice, but use more of the pixels on our screen? i see two big black spots that can be filled with [b]information[/b].

Mallee mapper
22 Jul 2013, 20:50

"might [b]not[/b] be some good advice, ..." inbefore: double comment, punish this kid you as much you want.

Acelamb
29 Jul 2013, 04:54

Instead of removing the chatbox, you should consider reverting to the "recent posts"-header. Imo the newspost imageslider is far less useful and much harder to keep updated than the forum-integration that used to be there.

nerv.
8 Aug 2013, 03:41

terrible idea, but i never seen one poll that staff work around. Like the mapdestroyers.

cC|Nikolaa
9 Aug 2013, 13:46

Terrible idea

A3TIUS
12 Aug 2013, 06:43

Once could always shift the chatbox to the forum section i.e. start a thread named chatbox in the forum section. Guess it'll be a win-win situation then :D

InfinityBG
27 Aug 2013, 17:42

Alfuw idea.

Lelekolkosamdobar
31 Aug 2013, 15:35

INSANELY HORRIBLE AWFUL STUPID DUMB TERRIBLE IDEA!

HaMMa mapperrecord holder Tournament #3
31 Aug 2013, 20:48

good idea like in hltv.org

cahz0r Tournament #3
13 Sep 2013, 20:11

:lol: troll poll?

nobody^
23 Sep 2013, 13:14

No chatbox = no soul Same happened with kz-pictures before some time.

ModelQa
2 Nov 2013, 22:22

Good idea.