New tied CJ World Record

By faker mapper·
Hey everybody!

once again it's time to take a deep breath and prepare to see something astonishing, as LyNn is setting up a new tied world record with an amazing 270 units Countjump with 271.168 units stats.

As usual we are, in association with Airwalk Media, going to provide a high quality clip which is showing the amazing jumpto those who would rather see it in a short movie instead of watching the demo.
The clip was made by Torex and is definitely a highlight!

We are aware that the rumors were already spread over the whole website and basically everybody knows that some other records has been set as well. Those are going to follow within the next weeks and are going to get their own little presentation - they deserve it!

Anyway, it's time to sit back and enjoy some amazing skills! Without further ado:



youtube iconYoutube Link
youtube iconown3d.tv Stream
youtube iconXtreme-Jumps Download Link (VIP only)
youtube iconDemo Download

Total jump lenght: 271.168 units | Prestrafe speed: 293.109 units/s / Topspeed: 362.559 units/s

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24/01/2013 23:36:00

I'm aware that the own3d.tv mirror isn't working yet. I had to re-upload the clip several times before it even appeared in the video list. It doesn't seem to play back (yet) but it might start working in a few hours though. The own3d.tv support is contacted as well, as we had issues with our latest 3 uploads. Anyway, congrats [flag]cn[/flag] [b]LyNn[/b] fo your amazing perfomance! [b]Please keep the comments clean, any insults, flames or accusations will be punished! We checked these demos as good and as thorough as possible![/b]

24/01/2013 23:36:00

Hahahahahha he's clean =))

24/01/2013 23:40:00

Seems like a new generation of kreedz with LyNn , gj ! :)

24/01/2013 23:44:00

and the 275? :P

24/01/2013 23:50:00

wait275 hha

24/01/2013 23:54:00

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

24/01/2013 23:59:00

gj LyNn!

25/01/2013 00:07:00

lololololoolololool

25/01/2013 00:08:00

:OO gj LyNn

25/01/2013 00:09:00

After accepting demo on clintmo_longjumper[x] I knew that you're gonna accept his longjumps too. I feel sorry for the all people who spent their time trying to accomplish something without any ,,help''. Never gonna happend.

25/01/2013 00:10:00

length* :p

25/01/2013 00:17:00

We are now witnessing the extinction of longjumping

25/01/2013 00:19:00

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25/01/2013 00:33:00

here's to hoping eDark can develop an up-to-date program to deal with the new surge of cheaters!

25/01/2013 00:34:00

I am praying to NFS get unbanned and teach those noobs to cheat, no offense :D Great movie Torex!

25/01/2013 00:37:00

gj

25/01/2013 00:44:00

:second:

25/01/2013 00:48:00

@faker i don't think you should bother too much with the own3d.tv upload, since it was leaked today that they will be shutting down within the next 2 weeks

25/01/2013 00:48:00

And 275dcj? 258lj? 246hj? Why not put all of Lynn records together?

25/01/2013 00:52:00

tenkae: Sounds interesting. Do you have a link with further information about that "leak"? I would love to learn more about that.

25/01/2013 00:53:00

congratz to LyNn, very impressive. and great work by Torex.

25/01/2013 00:54:00

WHat's up with the whining. The guy is Chinese, he's a mad marauding godless longjumper. If a Chinese can create a computer in under 30 seconds at a random Foxconn factory, why wouldnt he be able to geek longjumping. It's key to get ANY record nowadays, whereas it used to be different. His strafes look like bibo's. Looking forward to see him beat a 3 minute+ map.

25/01/2013 01:37:00

Nice edit!

In our time here Last night I was more than 1 wait for XJ updates... .. So I always refresh " F5 XJ " But because the surrounding is horrible and dark and drop sound I was too sleepy and went straight to bed ._. haha..

25/01/2013 02:18:00

its just a pitty

25/01/2013 02:29:00

What did I just read.

25/01/2013 03:53:00

own3d doesnt work

25/01/2013 04:16:00

momoda~~~

25/01/2013 04:55:00

Nice edit torex, gj lyNn if thats clean. cya xj lj records :D

25/01/2013 05:14:00

Congrats LyNn :)

25/01/2013 06:50:00

LyNnTERNET OH LyNnTERNET

25/01/2013 07:22:00

i don't know if it's the song or the effects, but the clip seems a bit simple, or something is missing....

25/01/2013 08:44:00

faker, https://www.facebook.com/AdventSugar/posts/544015192283694

25/01/2013 09:13:00

Great job, XJ. You just fell on the ground.

25/01/2013 09:23:00

nice edit

25/01/2013 09:27:00

LyNn jj Exploded

25/01/2013 09:45:00

niubility (__)    /oo\\________   \ /     \---\   \/    /  \  \    \\_|___\\_|/  *     ||  YY|     ||  ||  B

25/01/2013 10:54:00

WR is coming soon infa 100%

25/01/2013 11:06:00

Are you kidding me ? ..

25/01/2013 11:33:00

A frontpage post for a tied WR? Kind of pointless?

25/01/2013 11:56:00

I don't want to live on this planet anymore (c) ... bb longjumping

25/01/2013 12:16:00

Eey what the fuck.. why in all of a sudden ya'll loose ur faith in edark, he'll fucking figure out smth..

25/01/2013 12:25:00

every1's pussy hurts so much over a TIED wr, avatar made that in 2010, nubz clip released in september, its like 2,5 years past so....srsly xdd i myself not even being good at ljs and stuff, i suck at cj ALOT, and even i managed to hit 271stats, so lol

25/01/2013 12:27:00

system is broken :\

25/01/2013 12:35:00

Yay.. Good job unknown boy!

25/01/2013 12:36:00

eDark u need work harder.

25/01/2013 12:39:00

amazing clip torex, nice to see something new from you

25/01/2013 12:47:00

seems legit

25/01/2013 13:50:00

nice clip :)

25/01/2013 14:04:00

Torex his 270 cj is nothing compared to 275 dcj and 258 lj which he also sent and if they accepted this one there is no doubt that they will accept the others...

25/01/2013 14:08:00

it didnt even beat fame's stats, so it doesnt need to be in the frontpage

25/01/2013 15:07:00

gjj ;-)

25/01/2013 15:09:00

nice, gj :) LyNn record some more kz wr's

25/01/2013 15:12:00

rad clip torexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx !!!!!!!!!

25/01/2013 15:27:00

Why it's so hard to understand? There is absolutely nothing that refers to the LyNn has used any kind of cheats performing these jumps or any demos he has sent to XJ. I doubt there's anyone in this worlds who knows more than eDark about checking hl1-engine demos. Of course everybody can express their opinions but you just have to face the fact that LynN is clean or one of the smartests cheaters in history of this scene or the whole game. By the way, the clip was edited with a bit more radical alternative style than usually, but I liked it a lot. Very fresh, cinematic and fits perfectly to the soundtrack!

25/01/2013 15:40:00

ZippoW lets which StormZz make it :D

25/01/2013 15:44:00

sickness

25/01/2013 15:53:00

fuk you ;)

25/01/2013 16:03:00

I'm with jusuuh on this one. It's no use blaming him unless you have proof. /ot GJ LyNn :)

25/01/2013 16:14:00

znx it's all about facts, sometimes the pure logic is better than best programmes from eDark... I mean, have you seen his 275? Look, most jumpers when they beat one WR they beat it with 272.3/4 (272 block ofc there are exceptions) but he beated the 275 with 275.7! it's like almost 276 stats lol... The best double counterjumpers failed the 273 hard as hell and this guy comes here and lands 275 with 275.[b]7[/b] Just facts znx, I mean, if he did the 274 with 274.3 I wouldn't being here wishing StormZz to do LyNnternet.

25/01/2013 16:27:00

U MIRIN BRAHS?

25/01/2013 16:31:00

zythH^ agree with you about that logic is better then eDark. + We all know that edark failed in past. And it was not 1 time. Like MoNk,NFS i beat there was other guys. I don't think that edark updated his program but new hack's coming every day. I heard that some1 gonna make hack via driver for a mouse.This staff gonna be undetected, maybe lynn have some kind of this shit to.

25/01/2013 16:41:00

@defusion, china is one of the most advanced countries in the whole world, that is obvious that chinese can make some undetectable shit ..

25/01/2013 16:46:00

cheats running outside CS, detectable? I think not!

25/01/2013 17:04:00

Really nice edit, can anybody tell me what is the name of this amazing song? :) thanks :)

25/01/2013 17:11:00

wait eDark

25/01/2013 18:02:00

zythH, it's time to push lj into a new level, what i mean is that, lj style was same in last few years and it's time to push into a new level. lyNn just did it, he's some kind of leader of new generation. Same thing was with Bibo, he was fucking unbeatable and he pushed lj into a new level, but that was five years ago and it's time for some changes. Jusuuh, we are lucky we have someone like eDark but is he the best it's hard to say, for example soulfather has pretty good knowledge in hl1-engine, he clould be a good demochecker but he has less of time and he's now on source(hl2) engine. All i can say about this is, good edit torex, you're doing this right and lyNn gj for this.

25/01/2013 18:04:00

+1 N3M0N

25/01/2013 18:11:00

First to defusion, I didn't say eDark fails, I said logic sometimes beat democheckers, eDark is great as fuck so don't flame him please, he can ruin ur life in internet in 1 minute, and N3M0N, don't even compare LyNn to Bibo! Bibo was just one of the other guys like zhady, Brian, zyllEE, otcheto, StormZz, who could have pushed the skill to the highest level! Some in kz, some in lj, some in trickjumping and some in this fucking amazing art which is called of kreedz! LyNn? What have he made? A 275 stats? Best longjumpers did such stats tho but the thing is land the block! I mean, if he is clean jesus christ, kz will die now but wtf man, it's so obvious what's going there! I am not a Sherlock Holmes but I've the enough QI to say that LyNn isnt clean, MAYBE, the 270 and the 246 are clean due to such new ways to land (270 already done and that new HJ it makes it easier) but the 275 is just lol of the month, no, decade! I am not jealous, I am proud of what I am, a totally clean trickjumper who can find such good trickjumps, a jumper who jumps for fun and teach newcomers, to havin' fun with guys like nobody^, stabilot and others! The thing is, for me, kz died with this shits, from now on, I won't even talk more about LyNn. I am dead when the theme is LyNn, goodbye.

25/01/2013 18:33:00

I believe LyNn.

25/01/2013 18:41:00

zynthh, following ur "LOGIC" 2meters can be equal to 1meter BECAUSE F*** YOU THATS WHY srsly? what kind of logic are you talking bout? ur stating that 275DCJ cannot be beaten, but in next sentance ur saying that OTHER longjumpers have made these stats before. at the moment u have ZERO evidence that he is cheating, and still your butthole IS SOOOOO HURT because it LOOKS like cheated. take a look at FoF's story, look at his 243HJ, doesnt that LOOK cheated to you? ohoh, those "robotic" strafes ar absolutely clean isnt it ?

25/01/2013 18:46:00

goodbye zythH, but who cares? proud? lol . may be poor… if u are a cheater, why u straight to 275? why not 273.5 u are so funny :D

25/01/2013 18:53:00

i would rly like to see someone do 260ljblock with 15strafes with an undetected hack, then it got to be released, since its possible alright!

25/01/2013 18:56:00

[b]Please keep this website clean, any hacks, cheaters will...wait a minute... Nevermind it's over. [/b]

25/01/2013 19:25:00

Torex wtf? First I am zythH^, learn to have a bit of respect, just because you can jump 256 longjump doesnt mean you are superior, secondly, I said a NEWCOMER (3 weeks or 1 month here) can't beat a 275 even he geeks, he is 13 years old, and he plays since 10 or 9, tell me, I've 2 chinese mates in my town, in China they are really sever with games, how can a 9 years old kid start playing one of most violent games in history? :) That's a fact, k1ngway who the fuck are you man? Did I say I was a cheater? I said I was clean, wtf this new chinese gang is retarded, I miss the 26, k3g, tragedy and the real pro chinese team ffs... Also I know FoF cheated, also I'm not a FoF fanboys as most of people, he is good and what? I really never loved him as most XJ, yes he is the great moviemaker, mapper and jumper, ok and now look to the sky and count how many shits I give about. He is good yes but I will not love him so I DONT CARE about his history and 243HJ which was obviously cheated. Yes Torex, NFS was clean tho, untill he got caught. I am with proppan and _Lolz, go support the haxers while I've fun readin' this mad guys while try to hurt my feelings talking about my ass :DAD

25/01/2013 20:05:00

look zythH^,hope u can read my explanation of the possibility of doing 275 DCJ be4 u leave.check the present LJ RECORDS and u will find : in LJ and CJ sections,they all gained more than 60 units/s by strafing and Deathclaw did the most with 67.715 in LJ section,lyNn did the most with 69.450 in CJ section; however,in DCJ section,only mF and trancer did more than 60.even more,Pu9 did the WR with the least,55.988; well,suppose some1 gets 299+ pre in DCJ and does 65 or more with better strafe, which would lead to a 10 units/s higher maxspeed than current WR on 273 block,how's the jump stats gonna be?even me,a noob who cant DCJ at all,could realise:“oh,in this way,land on 275?quite possible and reasonable!” and why they can do 60+ in LJ and CJ but cant make it in DCJ?the answer imo is that they get perfect pre and it's much harder to perform good strafe as they do in LJ.in other words,we havent reached a closely perfect level in DCJ at prensent.and isnt this the same when we faced LJ a few years ago that the best jumpers got 275 pre couldnt gain more than 60 by strafing? i think i've myself clear :D PLEASE NOTICE that I'm just explaining the possiblity of 275 DCJ instead of defending lyNn. u can disbelieve lyNn or eDark's work or … XJ,even u are and will be visiting the site.That's none of my concern.but I CANNOT tolerate some of u to say smthing bad about China with nonsense.it's very annoying for us chinese to hear :( @faker, such as badass saying"China is so advanced tha chinese can make undetative shit" and ivansky saying"retarded chinese faggot" should be considered as rasism and get punished,isnt it?hope I dont mistake the meaning of rasism, my english isnt so good that I dunno this word be4.

25/01/2013 20:20:00

Mik0 I said the new chinese gang, like k1ng and others, I know what you are trying to tell me and I agree with you in the aspect of possible stats but Mik0 think with me, 299+ pre is like 1/20 (299.8 for example) and get those strafes, even you are a perfect player, is always hard, I mean, you can't do everything perfect, sometime ago someone said to wils, "give me ur pre and I do CJ WR" that's not true aswell, you need all points of the jump to have distance and just rape the 275 with 275.7 is just too ironic for me, I won't quit XJ, but I will quit the LyNn theme here, because this is just too hard to "eat", for me there ain't any clean demo from him and I won't support him, but that's me and I respect everyone who is his fan, actually I never liked the mainstream, that's why my favourite jumpers are almost unknown or oldschool guys, I used to believe in his 274 jump but in the 275 I just can't believe it, sorry. Even it was a great jumper like PU9maker I would not trust at 100%, not because he cheats but it's because of the 273 to 275. Try to understand that as I understood all of you and after all, it's just opinions. Going to play AC now, cya and nice post Mik0 and sorry if I was racist, didn't want to.

25/01/2013 20:50:00

not even suprised that chinese ppl get top wr's. just about times when they get every single demo!

25/01/2013 21:07:00

Gosh. This polemic can be stopped easily.. If I would beat an LJ WR and community start to talk slanderously about my skills, cheats and other shit - I would do my best to completely destroy them with a indeclinable proof. Chinese are ruling this world.. Almost. Chinese hackers can beat a shit of a FBI satellite. Chinese programmers create a lot of software we use. And know what? There are so many of them, good as fuck at what they do, because there is a really hard competition in China. 1.35 billion people is freaky powerful machine. eDark is the only wall against cheaters. And not the Great one. He is doing right thing and we all rely on him. But he's not reliable any more. I would say the hole bunch of methods is not reliable if they based only on virtual numbers - even Adobe, Microsoft and Apple can't protect their software. Are you kidding me? Demo is clean 'cause eDark said that? It's a weak proof. There is one 100% precise proof - make LyNn do his WR in the presence of trusted incorruptible witnesses, check controller drivers, possible programs in-between and hl engine right before and after jump, and ask some trusted incorruptible longjumper to check whole configuration for "feeling right". Well this will be 100% precise proof... Almost. There are still some possibilities to get unfair advantage. This method is complete madness. It's unacceptable. And we will never know is LyNn cheater or not. But... There are some proofs that are MORE reliable than just eDark. And I'am talking about handshow. No, not about that existing handshows of LyNn doing something with his hands and mouse somewhere there. I mean CLEAN HANDSHOW. Mount camera somewhere above the mouse mat so we can clearly see how EXACTLY hand moves. Demo and handshow side by side will give an acceptable proof. It will not be 100% reliable. I do video rotoscoping, masking, tracking - video can't be completely reliable as well. But it's pretty hard and time consuming to fake clear handshow. LyNn if you want to convince everyone that you are the one. The clean one. If you want fame, respect and legendarity - do it. Jump 256 or 257 block lj or 273-274 dcj with a clear top view handshow - and all the haters will be destroyed and you will win. Otherwise all your world records this world will not accept. TOP VIEW HANDSHOW + DEMO is a reliable proof. I said all.

25/01/2013 21:16:00

yes zythH,it could be very hard.but since u mentioned lynn's 270CJ seems clean in which he gained 69+,so it may be not so hard for him ez to perform nice strafe that gains like 65.and ye i'm not interesting taking part in lynn theme either,so pointless for both sides.u see,i still dont say a single word about lynn cheating or not,even some folks from my country with bad english have been arguing here for days. oh,dude,i'm not saying u are racist,that part was to others.sry if i make u misunderstand.i'm just discussing with u about the possiblity of 275 block. and i gotta go sleep :) traveled on train for hours to get home today and stay so late ,4 am now.so long ))

25/01/2013 21:25:00

I forgot to explain the method itself. If we get the top view clear handshow with borders of the mouse mat than any video-editor that knows video tracking software as powerful as Mocha for instance can provide eDark with tracked numbers and those numbers can be approximately compared to demo strafes and we get proof that new WR holder is enough skilled to do actually do a WR.

25/01/2013 21:29:00

As I said, you did that too, the 270 wasn't prolly that hard for him because 270 was already done by 3 or 4 jumpers but the 275 is just idk! Have a good night bro

25/01/2013 21:57:00

everybody who thinks that 270 is not a big deal anymore just becouse it was already done is just dumb! it took me thousands of hours to reach this level. I don't want to say anything against his records but to me it seems pretty unrealistic that people just appear and break world records. Just saying...

25/01/2013 22:10:00

avatar owned the commentbox !

25/01/2013 22:16:00

@Avatar, like someone said before, LyNn has 1500+ hours played in cs STEAM in less than a year, so if you count the time he spent playing in NONSTEAM before he buys his steam account, that is a considerable ammount of time he geeked. And btw, there are thousands of great players out there, just a few are "popular" because they have appeared on youtube clips or movies. The best example is LEWLY, he just played on pub servers, never heard about it in any youtube video or something, and then he started recording here and reached top#1 in 3 releases... So my point is that "unknown" players must not be called cheaters until someone proves it. Peace.

25/01/2013 22:19:00

avatar you did the same thing after you were caught cheating, now i know you geeked cj since me and bananus pretty much taught you to start with but you did do 270 pretty randomly, just because people don't know his name doesn't mean he cheats, lewly situation all voer again

25/01/2013 22:32:00

leggie, even if some people know the name it doesn't guarantee anything it just decreases chances that record is cheated. I think discussion is not about faith. It's about truth and confidence. I am not confident that LyNn is clear. Are you?

25/01/2013 22:44:00

im on xj since pretty long time but in 2007-2010 i cant remember that a guy entered xj and just broke lj-record without being know by at least some guys for a few years! even the unknown players (like fame was at the beginning) that are at a high level are known by some people just becouse they are better than other ones. im 100% sure that there are nonames outside that could beat our asses in lj/kz (like LEWLY) but the skill level this guy pretends to have just seems not really realistic to me.

25/01/2013 22:44:00

1ove, by your logic, if you're Chinese then you're cheater ? Yes, Chinese people are good in hacking, but they won't bother themselfs with pc gaming, and tbh scripting level is too high that everybody can make cheat or script...

25/01/2013 22:44:00

Avatar I am not saying 270 is easy but 270 seems more "easy" than a 275 dcj, at least we already saw 2 or 3 270cj but we never saw a 274dcj so it's kinda different, if you thought I was saying 270cj is easy I didnt want to say that because I know how hard it is

25/01/2013 22:46:00

N3M0N you got my logic wrong.

25/01/2013 22:47:00

btw im really happy that i have other problems than cs now ;)

25/01/2013 22:47:00

Im not sure, but have any admin at all voiced their opinion about lynns demos? everything that seems to be said from admins here is: eDark said so

25/01/2013 23:07:00

my opinion is there isn't really anything suspicious about lyNn's demos from a checking point of view, but there are maybe 5 other people that are 100x more suspicious but nobody says anything about them :P

26/01/2013 00:15:00

Once upon a time one wise man said : If you can't see it, doesn't mean its not there. Anyway if XJ decided those records are for real we just have to deal with it. And with all due respect leggie, imo your knowledge about demo checking isnt good enough to judge this objectively. Correct me if im wrong. And could you explain this sentence ? [b]there are maybe 5 other people that are 100x more suspicious but nobody says anything about them[/b] Does that mean they are not going to be released, or they are cos it can't be proven they are hacked ?

26/01/2013 01:50:00

xERAU;* thx for the kind word, i am on LYNN's side because he is quite a hardworking Chinese boy. Checking his Steam Profile just now :155 hrs past 2 weeks,1500 hrs past 7 month... he is trying hard to get some WRs, we should respect hardwork and talented people

26/01/2013 01:56:00

Ah god hundred of campaths in this short clip but [b]no ingame view with stats[/b] shown. Without these stats it is for me just one pointless vid, sorry Torex.

26/01/2013 02:07:00

leggie who is x100 times more suspicious than a chinese guy that you never heard of, appearing out of nowhere and raping all lj techniques possible for a really short amount of time + one of the hardest kz maps in the whole jumping scene? You said there are 5, please name at least one...

26/01/2013 02:21:00

zythH^, what you are calling for is not a use of logic, but a use of unfounded assumption. It's not logical to toss away a demo that has been checked time and time again for cheats, thoroughly, by the mathematical wizard eDark. He's checked it to the best of his boundless abilities, and you are still saying we throw the demo out on the basis that it's "not possible" to beat a WR with such an astounding leap. Sorry, that's not the right move here. Honestly? We're lucky to have eDark. Every time eDark is called upon to check a demo or called out for letting someone like MoNk pass through as clean, he's chastised for being wrong, or lazy, or whatever. eDark is all we have right now, and he's the best. It's not wise to dig into him constantly. Here's to eDark, for years of dedicated service to this community. And here's to LyNn for seriously impressive jump skills. GJ guys.

26/01/2013 03:07:00

This game is coming to its limits imo.. honestly i feel happy for that, watching more and more almost perfect demos is really enjoyable.. but is hard to believe it sometimes, and apparently not hard only for me, just for everybody.. day by day new players are appearing in scene, showing everybody their skills, and for a person who is visiting this website for more than 5 years (like me), who could detect all the times the game "leveled up", it seems very very difficult to see all these new guys making disaster in KZ (disaster in the good way of the word). Its sad to read all the bad and hate comments toward the "new generation boys" or dunno how to call them, but it is really understandable. ps: sounds weird but the guy who created that funny thread about killing kz to make all the people move to kzmod, was not that crazy xd

26/01/2013 03:47:00

So leggie paid chinese to make an undetectable hack and also paid eDark to not find it so the kz will be killed and thus people shall move to kzmod.Uhm interesting fantasty. By the way i want to share my opinion about this thing too..When i watched some of lynns demos i didnt know what to believe.High level of skill/maybe high level of geeking and then i thought about it again.Maybe lj can be pushed to higher limits if geeked properly but as a player i know the sound of "perfect" or perhaps very good stand up bhops and normal bhops.They have a specific sound in cs.Considering that i've never seen a player through the xj history having like 90%+ perfect bhops even on small maps.Even shnz considered as the best bhopper doesnt have that many perfect stand ups.He is very good and consistent at pulling very good bhops but they are not perfect.Now.. lewly doesnt do that either or perhaps any player on xj because thats pretty hard and lets assume that every human makes mistakes.Its very hard for me to believe that he is clean.I dont say he cheats its just hard to believe he doesnt as it is for everyone here.Perhaps with the time his demos will either be believable or cheated.Time will show

26/01/2013 05:33:00

If it weren't for cheaters infiltrating our online communities in the first place, there wouldn't be enormous distrust of new good players. Blame them first. This guy however is not a proven cheater so he's innocent until proven guilty. Granted, his jumps seem very suspicious but, are they impossible? The best age to get good at video games seems to be the age this guy is at. If he's somehow extremely talented and has played as intensely as his friends say he has played, then it seems like it just may be possible. He may also have discovered superior techniques that the wider community is not aware of (this is never impossible). Also, to be fair, there are lots of things I've seen well-known players do in this game that seem....questionable to me, yet it seems illogical that they cheat because their accomplishments are accepted widely and understood by better players than me. Sometimes you just don't understand the limits and you are liable to misjudge a situation. On the other hand it is just hard to believe - the best cheating is done flirting at the boundaries of impossible rather than blatantly crossing them. I respect the long jumpers here who have come out against LyNn and it would be their opinions that we should look to. But they must not be influenced by their own bias or disappointment at someone being so easily better. It would be interesting to here the consensus of the rest of the record holders on the likelihood of his accomplishment, and to come to those conclusions in an unbiased way. If there is enough evidence to suggest his jumps are not possible, then that's pretty much all the evidence you need. I would like to see this happen but, until there is firm proof in the form of circumstantial or direct evidence, he's just as legit as anyone else on XJ who has had their demos cleared and should be treated as such. Flaming and hostility is not productive in any case - polite expression of your opinion I believe is quite welcome. It's just the nature of these online gaming communities that there is no way to be completely sure of someone's legitimacy. Besides, if he cheated, oh well - shame on him and he'll carry his shame forever. No amount of ill-gotten online status can account for such shame. Just remember that in declaring guilt before proof, your actions have bad consequences as well.

26/01/2013 05:56:00

what w/ chip 270 ?

26/01/2013 09:38:00

The only fact sadder than there are obvious cheaters in lj tops is that admins strongly defend them.I know you admins can't admit something that you haven't proved, but it is redicilolus to tell that the white is black and continue arguing with everyone. At least stay quite or say some,how do i say it, "random" comments about this.Anything will be better than defending cheaters. Nothing personal.

26/01/2013 11:37:00

how the f is that EVERY LyNn lj records (like dcj lj hj cj) is his sync 90 ? (except HJ, then the sync was 91), its not a coincidence anymore.

26/01/2013 13:04:00

[quote1359201862=FLP] [quote1359201002=- nympho -] leggie who is x100 times more suspicious than a chinese guy that you never heard of, appearing out of nowhere and raping all lj techniques possible for a really short amount of time + one of the hardest kz maps in the whole jumping scene? You said there are 5, please name at least one... [/quote1359201002] You explained everything. It's funny how most of the people are saying that he is Chinese and like that's gonna help him to beat 275 dcj... Ffs people he is CHINESE not an alien,he is human just like all of you!Chinese people don't have some special longjump abilities... I really respect eDark and everything what he did for this community but he is not god and he can make mistakes(like he did before).As zythH^ said pure logic beats any programmes... [/quote1359201862]

26/01/2013 13:08:00

This situation is like a magican shows us that he can make an apple flies itself in the mid-air. We all know that it's impossible, right? But the magican is so smart, we cannot find any tools from his body and the stage so we cannot really prove that he is "cheated". A human can't do it without tools, maybe the only possibility is....he is an alien! Having some special power to control objects! Although we can't prove LyNn is cheated, it doesn't mean he is not. If he wants us to trust him that he is an "alien"(clean), I hope he could also show some evidences like handshow. btw, I wonder if someone could upload 260LJ with undetectable cheat to XJ, would XJ release it?

26/01/2013 13:09:00

So if I jump a 260 Longjump and no one catch me I will be legit, brb! LyNn I give you my iPhone and now gimme ur hax!!! Just l0l! By the way, quotting someone really smart and unique. [quote=miskee12]LyNn is my favourite longjumper. Good job.[/quote] Bye

26/01/2013 14:14:00

zythH, your logic is fucking hilarious haha. how old are you? gj Lynn, great job torex! (awesome song!)

26/01/2013 14:18:00

I am 12 like LyNn

26/01/2013 14:22:00

my question was pointless, just like your arguments ;)

no .. I 16 .

26/01/2013 14:51:00

Yes, I'll make an acc with new hax and do 260 and you will say I am not cheater because they can't bust me. As I said, cya.

26/01/2013 14:54:00

gj lynn! for cheats or skill, doesn't matter :p

26/01/2013 14:58:00

zythH, we are waiting for your new hack…maybe you will be another heL_x

26/01/2013 15:04:00

boom just btw, pizza, Lolz, and other pros think LyNn cheat tho but why you don't "try to troll" them too? Ah ye they are better than you so better don't troll them but why you troll (not even close) an Heman's fan? :DD

26/01/2013 16:30:00

PU9maker: I can confirm what leggie said as well if that helps to appease you. zythH^ + FLP: I wonder how your rate of success (of checking the demos with "logic") would look like, if I'd send you 10 demos - 5 legit and 5 with nasty hacks like strafe emulator or good slowmo :o [size=1] I bet you can't tell the difference.[/size]

26/01/2013 17:01:00

"bet you can't tell the difference." faker as I said, I don't care anymore about LyNn, accept his incoming 277 dcj with 280 stats, since he is really great and pushed the limits (i am not being sarcastic or troll, really serious now)

26/01/2013 18:06:00

lol zythH, i thought u were off the lynn theme. and cowoncrack owns the most sensible opinions here,well said

26/01/2013 19:34:00

zythH, they don't "troll" you because you are not recordholder, they "troll" you because from what you said we all can see that you hate lyNn, what is completly normal but better keep that in secret. Stuff like this better let to people whos job is this, and yes your logic is wrong, everything is possible. There's so many hidden superstarts who are not so popular and famous, actually speaking about this is useless...

26/01/2013 21:46:00

ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? why do you people consume yourselves with this crap? what ever happened to "it's just a game, lets have some fun"? i'm not trolling you, i'm sorry if you felt offended, but your logic is truly faulted. either come up with real facts or shut up. it makes you look wiser ;)

26/01/2013 23:12:00

faker if you send me 5 demos which include 275 dcj and 258 lj of an unknown player I can tell you already that they are cheated... There hasn't been done more than 10 275+ dcj stats(not wj where is much easier to gain pre) from all the players around the world.Now ask yourself how hard could it be for somebody to land 275 dcj block...

27/01/2013 02:13:00

@FLP I wonder why is that unknown players who did amazing stats are definitely cheated... i cant understand ur logic

27/01/2013 11:35:00

[quote]Now ask yourself how hard could it be for somebody to land 275 dcj block...[/quote] and to quote someone else: [quote]impossible but very very hard[/quote]

28/01/2013 09:17:00

now go and see lyNn's show on the map. he is not only good at LJ CJ etc..

28/01/2013 20:23:00

prout caca prout

29/01/2013 03:40:00

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29/01/2013 15:49:00

On the night like the easy man !

30/01/2013 17:19:00

LyNn_cheat 1 bind 1 godone_DCJ275 bind 2 godone_CJ270

30/01/2013 17:21:00

ljHack_killing_eDark.exe MADE IN CHINA <3 Taiwan's jumper like 7D & Dizzy & mai

30/01/2013 18:43:00

Taikee, it seems like you don't like chinese people...

01/02/2013 11:17:00

LyNn ,he looks likes a god!

01/02/2013 13:11:00

@N3M0N yep 275dcj possible but it is not now.

06/02/2013 19:06:00

Do not think for an insult, but I think the Chinese are already everywhere, like their records;D

07/02/2013 20:03:00

please tell me the name of the song!! good job man

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