WR Release #633 - 29 New World Records

By faker mapper·
LEWLY

bkm_problock done in ( 02:34.70 Memories )
kz_dimblock done in ( 07:12.25 koukouz )
kz_kzdk_templebhop done in ( 05:01.90 kayne )
kz_kzlt_dementia[-tranquillity] done in ( 02:18.02 round )
kz_kzse_toonworld done in ( 02:25.16 novice )
kz_owensvalley done in ( 02:17.36 pizza^ )
mto_desolate_h done in ( 02:50.75 LEWLY )
qsk_qube done in ( 05:05.78 ANger )
risk_lego_firehouse done in ( 01:47.78 koukouz )
stf_creepytemple done in ( 01:43.16 VNS )

ShoCk

bkz_pyramidblock done in ( 03:49.28 scmb )

memek

cg_xmasjourney done in ( 04:59.62 KeltA )

mgD

kz_cfl_jost_ez done in ( 06:31.41 Lolz )

Gene

kz_cg_extreme done in ( 07:01.06 LEWLY )
kz_christmas done in ( 07:21.90 novice )
kz_xj_3ways[xtreme] done in ( 03:57.36 LEWLY )
kzno_xtremeblock done in ( 01:54.84 LEWLY )
kzsca_broken done in ( 04:11.95 koukouz )

akkord

kz_cxg_jekyll done in ( 02:39.69 akkord )

kropeq

kz_dirtblock_hard done in ( 09:22.32 puppetz )
kz_kzfr_darktree done in ( 04:29.52 novice )
kz_kzsca_bastion done in ( 10:40.16 Spider1 )

eclipzh

kz_dp_medieval done in ( 02:09.89 ducu )

ram009

kz_ezboulder_b01 done in ( 04:24.40 Toffifee )
kz_man_eznasa done in ( 00:39.67 Np_O )

DeathClaw

kz_kzsk_desperados done in ( 04:47.08 SAMNY )

volte

kzcn_brickblock done in ( 03:27.43 duct1 )

Pizzookie

kzsca_valley done in ( 02:37.33 neXt. )

g-Lp

rpz_downfall[boxes] done in ( 00:05.17 chip )

Read the extended news post for demos that were improved or didn't quite make it.

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26/07/2013 20:31:00

LEWLY is just unstoppable

26/07/2013 20:33:00

lol'd @ pl1's times, gj for 1st recs gj everyone

26/07/2013 20:34:00

wonderful job guys!

26/07/2013 20:38:00

btw what kropeq did on forgeblock? opened door before starting timer? if yes - then its legit demo.

26/07/2013 20:40:00

GJ Gene, deathclaw and others :D :D

26/07/2013 20:40:00

Nice to see you back gene, you still amazing player !

26/07/2013 20:46:00

[b]DeathClaw:[/b] Maybe such demos were accepted under other demo admins, and I'm very sorry for that, but opening that door before starting the timer is clearly not legit according to our rules.

26/07/2013 20:47:00

shock akkord back :O pyramindblock 8sec wtf and the famous mgD recorded again gene is da boss hardass maps lewly 111 WRs uber toonworld aint a big deal for u we have to admit kzsca_valley belongs to pizzookie =) Deathclaw, i remember that was a map with WR but some annoying sc, gj for improving

26/07/2013 20:51:00

hm, what about kz_spain then?

26/07/2013 21:04:00

dat release! GJ ALL

26/07/2013 21:05:00

gj on broken, gene

26/07/2013 21:13:00

Please fix Akkord's demo on frontpage... I keep getting this error while trying to download that demo " This WR has been broken and therefore it is not available anymore. VIP Gold members may find the demo in the VIP demoarchive. If you want to become a VIP Gold member please click this link"

26/07/2013 21:19:00

kropeq :D

26/07/2013 21:19:00

[size=20][center][b]mgD!!![/b][/center][/size]

26/07/2013 21:20:00

Where do I get the good hack, I want to jump high too pls respond

26/07/2013 21:20:00

release without Lynn , YES YES YES!

26/07/2013 21:26:00

@faker: How are you supposed to get to the timer then? Teleporting/using checkpoints shouldn't be mandatory in a mod that claims to be all about default settings and gameplay. Nice to see mgD back! GJ insilio guys.

26/07/2013 21:32:00

Really nice demo guys, some of those times are really impressive(LEWLY, kropeq :O). It's also cool to see Gene fighting to get his WRs back! GJ gLp also!! (soon 05.11 LOL!) About the risk_forgeblock case, there was a demotalk on it some years ago: http://xtreme-jumps.eu/news.php?extend.1389 Still sad to see that demo rejected as it's obviously faster than the current record, but that's indeed against the rules...

26/07/2013 22:01:00

novice :((( gj all! nice demo!

26/07/2013 22:08:00

ahh, a breath of fresh air with mgD and akkord sending in demos. nice work on firehouse.

26/07/2013 22:10:00

So maaany good maps taken. Gene, good job dude :)

26/07/2013 22:17:00

wow gene, GJ!!!! :o

26/07/2013 22:22:00

Gene, LEWLY and mgD!!!!, NICE GUYS... thank you for seeing these wonders :up: :dance:

26/07/2013 22:22:00

♥ kropek ♥ memek gj insiliokzpl!

26/07/2013 22:31:00

gj all, lewly go both extreme`s in live :D

26/07/2013 22:31:00

kropeq and insilio team <3 sadly, we can't see this amazing forgeblock... what about neXt's demo? :(

26/07/2013 22:32:00

gj all! btw i'd love to see a perfect dimblock run)

26/07/2013 22:33:00

oh, I forgot about Gene! You did awesome work dude!

26/07/2013 22:35:00

valley belongs to me :))) gj kropeq , memek , SHOCK !!! what a demo .

26/07/2013 22:50:00

mgD freakin 1 week comeback! also good job pl1! Gene u r awesome, gj everyone else, I'm happy LyNn's demos are not released, lol :D

26/07/2013 22:59:00

gj insilio team! :)

26/07/2013 23:01:00

gj Lewly,akkord,Shock,DC :),leggie & faker for release,Gene, volte and esp mgD for comeback and others too!

26/07/2013 23:02:00

GENE ♥

26/07/2013 23:05:00

Nice to see this game is alive :)

26/07/2013 23:19:00

Great release... Gene, LEWLY, all as well, great records !

26/07/2013 23:23:00

I'm so disapointed that my demo from risk_forgeblock wasn't accepted... First of all, I didn't even know about news like "DEMO TALK #1". How can I know about this rule if I didn't read this news 3 years ago? Where is it marked/highlighted if I want to record wr on this map? Shouldn't be it added to the demo rules to show players that this rule was introduced? And what does it change that you decided to introduce this rule? Does anyone avoid any part of the map? No, so why do we have to wait for this ******* door? I was sure that if I recorded demo 4 years ago and it was accepted, now in the same way should be accepted too. Secondly, I don't understand why do you try to change intentions of mapper who built that map? If all of the respawns are before the door, it's logical that we can go to the start timer, push it and back to the run... with the door which are opened. Thirdly, as leggie said, if some admin goes wrong and accept demo with some mistake like clintmo_pentablock( but on forgeblock this isn't even a mistake for me... ), it should be accetped for all players, not selected. Apart of this, good job to all recordholders, especially my lovely memek, DeathClaw, Gene, g-Lp, akkord and mgD.

26/07/2013 23:45:00

gj climbers!

27/07/2013 00:06:00

Gene amazing jumper. Nice demos ^_^

27/07/2013 00:10:00

nicely done [flag]bg[/flag] [size=18 pl1][/size] :happy:

27/07/2013 00:11:00

nicely done [flag]bg[/flag] [size=18] pl1 [/size] :happy:

27/07/2013 00:25:00

gj kropeq, volte and luli.

27/07/2013 00:33:00

Oh,toonworld ,gj lewly,it's never easy to beat it.

27/07/2013 00:37:00

Gj all !!!!

27/07/2013 01:03:00

mgd, gene, akkord

27/07/2013 01:07:00

yay,mgD is back

27/07/2013 01:21:00

woow volte!! impressive run. i hope we'll see more runs from you. firehouse was probably kkz' best demo imo, even a tiny improvement is smtg huge, so gj lewly! gene, you got some splendid demos, esp on kz_christmas. amazing speedclimb, too bad u had this fail! didnt watch other demos, but gj everyone, nice to see mgd's name in this release!

27/07/2013 01:27:00

kzsca_broken unbeatable run :first:

27/07/2013 01:33:00

quite interesting wrs ;) night even watch these tomorrow

27/07/2013 01:50:00

maybe "xtreme" should be called “xgene” <3

27/07/2013 02:10:00

Gene awesome !!1

27/07/2013 03:03:00

gj all esp gene and lewly New battle will occur ???

27/07/2013 03:59:00

faker, risk_forgeblock demo should be accepted.. its the same case as kz_spain.. when u restart the round, the respawn spot is outside the room where the start button is.. so imagine the oldschool times, where there were NO plugins like /gocheck or /start, u were forced to go through the door to press the start button to start the run.. so its just a mistake of the map and the mapper, not the climber.. take a look again and accept the demo because is legit even when the rules say that its not allowed (this is just an exception). about the release, many great maps, i like it, gj everyone

27/07/2013 04:03:00

Thanks, lewly. You too on desolate.

27/07/2013 04:24:00

nice sc on ezboulder pl1!

27/07/2013 04:58:00

mgD ftw !

27/07/2013 05:19:00

bkz_pyramidblock demo by koukouz ? the kkz strafe WoW

27/07/2013 05:22:00

[b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b] [b][flag]it[/flag] Gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]

27/07/2013 05:28:00

where is LyNn ? :(

27/07/2013 06:57:00

nice to see mgD and akkord still recording

27/07/2013 07:06:00

mgD :3

27/07/2013 07:27:00

gj gene and LEWLY

27/07/2013 07:37:00

welcome back mgD, gj pl1.. and gj for this fuker akkord ! :D Lewly monster.. ;x

27/07/2013 09:06:00

Awesome demos all, gj pl1 for your first wrs, now go improve nub:) <3

27/07/2013 09:32:00

Welcome back mgD, just to know we missed you a lot. So many amazing demos, gene at cg_extreme is something worth watching, good job buddy for this. Also good job to kropeq for taking dirtiblock_hard with a pretty big improvement, you rock buddy and keep it up, i hope we will see more from you in near future. Lewly, i'm speechless about your demos, everything i thought about you and your demos i've already wrote. Also good job to shock and memek... Impressive release, i must admit...

27/07/2013 09:49:00

GJ All guys. Esp. [b]mgD[/b] pizookie, akkord, gene GREAT JOB.

27/07/2013 10:18:00

super rlz lewly akkord gene

27/07/2013 10:21:00

LEWLY :first: GodLike

27/07/2013 10:42:00

gene v lewly, its on! GJ akkord sex run :) and woww didn't think valley could be beaten by that much pizzookie grats! :D

27/07/2013 10:45:00

*meanwhile in Gene's head* " ITS PAYBACK TIME BITCHEEEES"

27/07/2013 11:12:00

its allowed record with a timer now? lol... =/

27/07/2013 11:34:00

gene amazing :o

27/07/2013 12:15:00

If somebody asked me before this release what's the best demo on xj that would definitely be kzsca_broken... Although you used scs I have to say great fucking job Gene :)

27/07/2013 12:37:00

About forgeblock: The rules are pretty clear about such situations: [quote=XJ Rules]You may not destroy breakable objects (like bridges for example) or push buttons (with an exception for HP boosters), or push movable objects, before you have pushed the start button.[/quote] I'm not going to deny that previous demo admins made a mistake and allowed such demos, which I'm very sorry for, but this is definitely not legit. Right behavior, if not using a plugin: Opening the door by pushing the button, waiting for it to auto-close. Then starting the run with the start button. Bad behavior, if not using a plugin: Opening the door by pushing the button and starting the run whilst the door is still open.

27/07/2013 12:43:00

I love you akkord

27/07/2013 13:02:00

GJ X-GENE , U ROX !!!!

27/07/2013 13:13:00

SAMNY :( gj all

27/07/2013 13:53:00

Does someone dare to say that KZ is dying?

27/07/2013 14:43:00

mgD and pl1 !

27/07/2013 15:46:00

LEWLY, Gene, [b]DeathClaw[/b] .. finally one of my maps made it to the release :-D

27/07/2013 15:56:00

@CamelCloud if Lolz's thread is telling the truth - the KZ is already dead.

27/07/2013 16:06:00

gj Gene i knew it,that kz_cg_extreme is pussy for you :D

27/07/2013 17:28:00

gj all :up: i feel really bad for kropeq though :gah:

27/07/2013 17:39:00

[b]Faker:[/b] If you force me to wait until the doors will be closed, why don't you force players to not use a shortcut for example, on risk_compound? I don't want to argue with you because I like it but because I really don't see your point that you didn't accept my record. If map is in this way built, I can't understand, why did you change intention of mapper and you didn't change anything on maps, where is it really important. These doors didn't change anything and shortcut on risk_compound change everything. Where is the logic?! And one more time, I don't care that much about this demo, because I can record on this map even much better time, but... I feel really cheated by you. And please don't copy/paste the rule, which for me doesn't match to this map. It still doesn't convince me, because without plugin I have to open this door and don't see logic in waiting for moment, when they are closed.

27/07/2013 19:15:00

so now the player who want to beat kz_spain has like ~1s of disadvantage cuz he must wait the door gets closed ?! (or just use /start or /gocheck to inside the house and loose time waiting the door gets opened?).. isnt fair imo... if things are being wrong done for long time and previous demoadmins, makes no sense of being that strict right now

27/07/2013 19:22:00

if we want to follow this old rules like they are, i can assure you will end up losing faker... rules were avoided many many times in different cases just because they were "old" and they could be updated to the kreedz's present (i have many situations in my head right now).. think about it.. sorry dp

27/07/2013 20:52:00

Heh you guys are giving faker some hard time here :) but this is when the quality of an admin shows up - to do the right decision. From my point of view - I stand behind faker, if theres a rule then follow it, but here we come, kyser's comment really has a point, as there really is that disadvantage. So faker? Can you do the right decision? :-P

27/07/2013 21:00:00

And the funny thing is.. If the door were set to STAY OPEN after touching them on kz_spain (because there is such an option in VHE) what would the solution be? You couldnt enter the room and get to the timer without plugins if you wanted the door to stay closed. Well, lot of thinking here about this, but some step should be done :-)

27/07/2013 21:02:00

gene...... so kzsca_broken can be improved 5 sec maybe more?

27/07/2013 21:08:00

nice to see akkord recording and mgD :)

27/07/2013 21:59:00

gene and lewly making unbeatable demos, mgd make more

27/07/2013 22:02:00

KZ is alive and KICKING! We might have ourself a mexican standoff! Gene vs LEWLY, some intense demos back and fourth so far!

27/07/2013 22:57:00

GJ All! esp mgD!

28/07/2013 00:06:00

welcome back mgD!! and a very nice job gene! :D

28/07/2013 02:07:00

@faker: Why don't you just add it as an exception to the rule? It's not reasonable to expect people to be reading 3-year old newsposts or knowing what to do when it's impossible to get to the start button without breaking the rules.

28/07/2013 09:04:00

sad

28/07/2013 09:39:00

+1 remake!!!

28/07/2013 12:20:00

pl1 n1 :D

28/07/2013 12:51:00

kz_cg_extreme is mindblowing demo

28/07/2013 14:17:00

[b]kropeq[/b]: No offense, but maybe you'll start seeing the logic behind it if you stop making illogical assumptions such as comparing functional elements of maps to shortcuts - which makes no sense at all. I'll try to explain the reason of this rule in other words: To ensure a fair competition that is based on the same chances for everybody, the maps have to be in their default condition when starting a run. This means no opening doors, no smashing bridges (with traps and breaking planks on it) and no moving vehicles (if existing). Hence... if you open this door, because you are playing without plugins, you need to wait for the door to close again. [b]remake:[/b] There is no need for an exception regarding this rule, it's just basic text comprehension (don't want to sound arrogant, but for me this is pure logic): Push the button to open the door and let it close again => Button had no effect on the map condition and it is like you would have never pushed it. But if you start the run whilst the door is still open, your button push had an effect on the map and the map is not in its default state any longer (giving you a slight advantage). - About [b]kz_spain[/b] I must admit that I'm not up to date. I will take a look at the previous records and see what's happening there.

28/07/2013 14:20:00

what about timer faker? its allowed record with a timer?

28/07/2013 14:46:00

I think for kz_spain is not problem to open the door from inside and start the timer.If I remember right when you open the door from outside and start the timer you have time to go outside because door stays open. Look at Messing's demo :) (bad eng)

28/07/2013 14:58:00

kz_spain doesn't have a button and opening the door is not violating against our current rules.

28/07/2013 16:28:00

Faker, you're being illogical here. You're just making this more complicated than it really is. You are just trying to [img][/img]limit the player to chase a stupid rule, while he is basically playing by default standards

28/07/2013 16:33:00

Not even a rule perhaps, just a technicality

28/07/2013 16:47:00

Thanks for your irrelevant input without any argumentation structure.

28/07/2013 16:48:00

[b]faker:[/b] What is the difference? It sounds so funny. You think that if you will open the door with usp or by pushing the button or just touch, they are three other situations? Doors behavior is the same, so, what is the difference? Still can't understand why risk_forgeblock with opened door is illegal, and kz_spain with opened door is legal. As you wrote, "the maps have to be in their default condition when starting a run", so, how could you explain it for me? This difference of course ;) And of course I will record forgeblock again, it's not a problem, but I just want to know, why this map is treated by another rule than for example kz_spain.

28/07/2013 16:55:00

You are right, kz_spain should be illegal as well due to that logic. However, there was and still is a loophole in the rules regarding that. But that doesn't mean that the other rules is less good or right or necessary (there are other maps with the same issue and a bigger time difference than forgeblock).

28/07/2013 17:06:00

[b]Faker[/b]: Look, how was it difficult to explain it for us. I think it should be added to section "demo rules", maybe just link to news which was named "DEMO TALK #1". I think it could prevent situation like this. Thank you for explaining and I'm sorry if I sounded sometime arrogantly.

28/07/2013 17:09:00

risk_forgeblock is the same case like kz_spain. When you start lan server and load the map you have to press the button from outside room and then go to the little room and start the timer and if you do that fast you have enouph time to go outside till door get closed!

28/07/2013 17:18:00

Everything had been said before. I'm just commenting about your ideas of logic. How spain and forgeblock aren't comparable is a mystery to me

28/07/2013 18:03:00

They are not comparable because the door in kz_spain does work without a button. @kropeq: Cheers. Thanks for your understanding.

28/07/2013 18:46:00

g-Lp also nice one DC, tried to beat it and failed it all day because of lame sc :/ sad for sam

28/07/2013 19:05:00

@faker: I'm not arguing that letting the door close before you start the run may be the most logical thing to do, but I think rules should be as clear and free from misinterpretations as possible. In this case, getting to the start button implies breaking a rule, and since a record on that map already exists, it wouldn't be very illogical to think that forgeblock would fall under an exception. The easiest solution would be to just add it to the rules that the door in forgeblock must be closed before pressing the start button (or more broadly that if getting to the start button requires opening any doors, they must be left to close before starting the run).

28/07/2013 20:39:00

puppetz :'(

29/07/2013 07:52:00

Like i said, you're just chasing a technicality. The situation is exactly the same

29/07/2013 13:46:00

Wow this release actually made me want to come back to playing kz again :o seems like it's more alive than ever! Well done lads! and Gene, boy am I glad to see you back in action!

29/07/2013 17:46:00

mgDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <3

30/07/2013 06:37:00

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30/07/2013 07:18:00

good to see you back

30/07/2013 23:25:00

eclipzh !!! nice and clean run :) gj alll jumpers

31/07/2013 13:39:00

[blockquote] yik on 07/27/13 - 09:03 gj all esp gene and lewly New battle will occur ???[/blockquote] Really ??? :D

03/08/2013 11:14:00

Can't wait to get back home after couple of weeks, the first thing I'll do is watch some of these demos. :-P