Tournament #8: Grand Final

By ShoCkrecord holder Tournament #2 VIP·
Ready for the Grand Final huh? But let me start off by presenting you the Bronze Winner - shooting-star who, at least judging by our big poll, impressed and surprised a good part of us. To take 3rd place in such a big tournament as this one is certainly one should be proud of. So, congratulations, you made it very far. And thanks for the spellbinding match, it's hardly forgettable.

And here is the very final step, the final match and the Grand Final. The clash of titans where Bibika and pizza^ will fight each other in order to reveal an absolute champion of this long-lasting event and to take the $100 of a prize sum.

Match will be played in Bo9 format and Bibika will have an advantage of 1 map game beforehand.

Map pool (in special order):

bkz_forestrace
kz_sandblock
kz_cg_gloomy
kz_kzdk_radiobase
kz_kzfr_rabbithighwayez
kz_highlands
kzblt_zigzaghop
kzsca_dawn
kz_kzsca_oasis
sn_noobbean_2
risk_simpsons

Good luck and see you on the battleground ;)

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19/11/2013 15:45:00

gl both

19/11/2013 15:50:00

good luck for d battle( ru vs us)

19/11/2013 15:55:00

almost every map that pizza had wr! nice!! good luck players

19/11/2013 16:50:00

That does not mean so much...

19/11/2013 17:04:00

Actually, there is no a single wr in this pool that pizza have and bibika doesn't.

20/11/2013 02:57:00

who said that? :/

20/11/2013 10:39:00

Players info. Although there is indeed kz_kzdk_radiobase which pizza has and bibika doesn't/didn't, but he knows the map quite good, so there shouldn't be any problem with it, Or are you referring to anything else?

20/11/2013 16:48:00

nono, my post was pointing that pizza had many of those wrs, i didnt mention anything about bibika..

20/11/2013 17:23:00

Oh, thought you were pointing out an unfairness that pizza holds almost all wrs on these maps, being unaware that they have them in common :)

19/11/2013 16:36:00

gl!

19/11/2013 16:54:00

Good luck and may the best one win !! rUs

19/11/2013 17:34:00

So [flag]us[/flag][b]pizza^[/b] need to win 2 times if he want to win tournament?

19/11/2013 17:52:00

We made it another way. There will only be one match no matter who wins and the match starts with Bibika being in the lead of 1 map beforehand.

19/11/2013 18:06:00

That is so stupid, so everyone will have 1 lost match expect bibika? 1 map advantage is nothing, why not finish tournament as he needs to be? If i was [flag]ru[/flag][b]bibika[/b] i wouldn't play final at all.

19/11/2013 18:31:00

Advantage of applied system is that versus yours we don't need to wait another month (in case that pizza^ wins) while players learn next big map pool. I disagree that one map gives you nothing of advantage but small and fair. Also, both Bibika and pizza^ don't mind it.

19/11/2013 18:39:00

Funny thing is that tournament running almost 3 months, so why not wait one another month?

19/11/2013 19:39:00

Because it has already delayed quite a big time.

19/11/2013 19:04:00

so they're gonna play 8 maps?

19/11/2013 19:38:00

yep

19/11/2013 19:40:00

can you please change it to "Grand Final". awkward as fuck reading superfinal for some reason. as far as map advantage, kz is kinda weird in those regards. i was originally thinking to make it two bo9s or whatever with one entire set advantage for bibika, meaning whoever made it from the loser's bracket to play him would be down 0-1 and have to win two entire bo9 whereas he would need just one. question is whether you keep the same map pool for all sets or have a second one. i think both of us would be fine playing two bo9 as far as time constraints go aswell as the same maps and it gives bibika a much bigger advantage instead of a flimsy 1-0 map advantage. anyway it's not my tournament so it was up to shock to come up with the winner bracket advantage and this was the alternative. seems bibika is fine with any type of advantage so it will still be fun i think. also if bibika has 1-0 map advantage does he dismiss two maps of his choice? also nice maps i see you picked ones we both had the WR on. ;) hope it will be awesome

19/11/2013 20:06:00

Actually that changes everything, with the same map pool for all matches. Should be applied. Changed to grand final as requested.

19/11/2013 20:07:00

And yeah with the applied system, 3 maps are desmissed, 2 from bibika and 1 from you.

19/11/2013 20:25:00

I think is too many advantages for Bibika...why dont you think the 1 who came from loser's bracket should have the advantage? dont think is pizza[a great player] ->think is a normal player who lost in a match and then very hard he wins till the grand final..why a super pro[dont think at bibika{who also is a very good player},just a super mega pro lets say kkz] should have advantage over a player who didnt win everything to be in the top group of winners? I really think pizza should have some advantage...just from a simple reason that he played more matches than bibika:)

20/11/2013 03:04:00

sory but this makes no sense.. so Spain should have had advantage from 1 goal against Netherlands in the SouthAfrica world cup final, cuz they lost against Switzerland in first match.. it has to be a single match, 1 dismiss each other, no advantages for anyone, and do their best in 7 maps.. thats all.. stop making bullshits

20/11/2013 03:26:00

yea kyser,you are right but i dont think will be without advantage:(---if there really is with that thing in final-pizza should have the advantage,he played more matches than bibika... going on a longer path[if you really want to put it like this:P] And stormzz :D please take few minutes to understand the way i had this thing in mind before put "roll something and face dont know".Im not saying it again or going for another example,please read again->think[more minutes should help]-and just if you want post again whatever "appear".

20/11/2013 03:49:00

i know what you mean, but in my opinion, the fact that pizza has played more matches is because he "lost", (he shouldn't be playing at the moment because of that, but the tournament was made just for giving a second chance to the ones that lose at least once), so he also has that "advantage" since he lost against shooting-star the first time they met.

20/11/2013 10:41:00

Yeah Spider1, it has always been like that and not for no reason.

20/11/2013 12:02:00

pizza is the loser, losers dont get a reward, winners do. always been like this and it always will be like this.

19/11/2013 21:06:00

yeah right ... bibika should get the disadvantages because he beat everyone on his way through the winner-bracket, i.e. not losing a god damn single match *rolls eyes* .. makes sense ... *facepalm*

19/11/2013 21:38:00

Rocky Balboa vs Ivan Drago :D

19/11/2013 22:11:00

bibizza > pizzika ( I guess)

19/11/2013 22:50:00

gl :)

20/11/2013 06:42:00

goodluck guys :) shooting-star grats on getting bronze

20/11/2013 10:17:00

That's a great decision I think. Bibika wins everything so far and pizza^ lost against shooting earlier, so if the rules of this cup would be the same as a previous tournament, pizza^ shouldn't have the possibilities to win with Bibika, especially in the final round. That's why Bibika has advantage and I totally agree with this idea. For me it's more fair.

If it is necessary to give bibika an advantage, i would only let him dismiss 1 more map, 1-point advantage AND dismissed map is simply too much... another idea i have is that bibika has 1-0, but pizza will dismiss 2 maps... this seems a lot more ballanced

20/11/2013 12:21:00

We have just changed format from what you said to what we have now. We tried that already. And with second idea, I see what you're trying to balance chances but it's exact contrary, Bibika has to have an advantage. You are inventing and complicating things imo.

No doubt bibika have to have an advantage... but you give him huge advantage of 2 points, 1-0 for score and -1 for pizza because bibika will dismiss a map which would pizza probably win. I dont want to complicate anything, i just want to watch regular final match. If it is supposed to be a shorter way of 2 two chances for bibika in two ballanced bo9 matches, my first idea is: Are that personal or national preferences what decreases probability of pizza's victory <<0.5 before the match starts? Anyways, I want you to know that you did great job with this tournament in my eyes, no matter how disrespectable the final battle is...

20/11/2013 16:13:00

How is that 2 points of advantage when both dismiss a map, not only bibika. And you could as well apply your words "bibika dismisses a map that pizza could probably won" (which alone is illogically) to pizza in the exact same exponent. You want to see a regular final match but that is exactly how they have always been handled in double-elimination bracket. If by disrespectable you meant disrespectful.. well I have to once again say that that's how double-elimination bracket works and that's what two of finalists agreed on (even though there can't really be other options, except for the one I tried to get to work originally).

20/11/2013 12:09:00

Great maps!

20/11/2013 13:10:00

when final match will be played? cant find any information aboout time and date

20/11/2013 13:50:00

It is not scheduled yet.

20/11/2013 14:18:00

where is pizza vs shooting star demo links? demos for VIP?

20/11/2013 17:13:00

Awwww, totally forgot about demos but it looks like hltv fucked things up again :/ No saved demos in the DB. Sorry.

20/11/2013 23:45:00

pizda pizde