Cheating: Banned for life #4: VNS

By Ovidiu Dumitru··Announcement
Hello community,

To be quite honest, when we first started this we thought it will be enjoying cleaning up the community. The thought of starting fresh was overwhelming. But now, we have come to realize that our actions will also do some damage. We already knew that, but somehow, as we go deeper into the problem we get that feeling of awareness and suddenly everything feels more "real".

I guess this is because we kind of have the first major player about to be banned. VNS is considered, more or less, by a considerable proportion of our audience, as an iconic players. And when this happens to someone like that, dark feelings are also bound to happen.

However, we would like to think that all this is for a greater good. So, with this being said, let's get into some facts. We will reveal as much as we can, without mentioning sensitive informations about our checking procedure.

Before going any further, we would like to mention that we had to discuss this matter with the well known eDark before taking any decision. We felt that it is important to find out his opinion and eventually to have his blessing, more or less, because we wanted to be absolutely sure of our findings. In the end, this was his conclusion:

[quote="eDark"]eDark: overall i would say the hacking part is solid
eDark: yes for the hacking part it s enough[/quote]
So, between the years of 2012 and 2015 he used 4 different bhop hacks and he recorded 64 cheated demos. You may also ask yourself what does the "hacking part" means. Well, beside the cheating proofs we had there were also other suspicious facts, but those do not concern Xtreme-Jumps and due to this reason are left out.
All of his demos will be deleted and he will be permanently banned.

This is an unfortunate case, as the player in question had a special place in our hearts and he was on the way to really leave a mark in our KZ community.

However, our journey doesn't stop here and we are really working on possible solutions to change this community for the better. These things require time, but we are confident we will manage to accomplish some of them, at least.

Thank you for your attention and see you soon!

Best regards,
Xtreme-Jumps.eu

Read the extended news post for demos that were restored.

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1 Apr 2015, 21:02

aha

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

old news

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

ayy lmao

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

old joke)

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

GG

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

Dat April fools with Edark quote to make it more valid.

1 Apr 2015, 21:03

finally

1 Apr 2015, 21:04

hahahahahaha, im sry but someone getting banned always makes me happy. i basically become a littlebit better player overall :D

2 Apr 2015, 18:00

I love the way you think :-)

1 Apr 2015, 21:04

"the strafe machine" HAHAHA IMAO

1 Apr 2015, 21:14

Joke :D

1 Apr 2015, 21:04

LONG TIME COMING KNEW HIS BHOP WAS TOO GOOD (btw u guys cant be taken seriously after pu9 and LOLLYs post.....................)

1 Apr 2015, 21:05

actually if its april fools i take it back xD

1 Apr 2015, 21:05

April 1sttttttttttttt

1 Apr 2015, 21:05

now you wouldnt joke about it, would you?)))

1 Apr 2015, 21:07

nice prank XJ

1 Apr 2015, 21:08

shoudve written about bibika, would be more convincing.

1 Apr 2015, 21:09

so smart XJ for 1st april :o

1 Apr 2015, 21:12

Finally! Nice job :)

1 Apr 2015, 21:12

"/ And if it was planned and aDmins already found his cheat and decided to release it on 1st of April? What then "/

1 Apr 2015, 21:14

eDark : Last visit: ( 8 months, 2 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes, 9 seconds ago )

1 Apr 2015, 21:16

fail

1 Apr 2015, 21:15

Should have been posted tomorrow to avoid people thinking that's a joke. Nonetheless, great job and keep it this way.

1 Apr 2015, 21:18

im having a hard time to believe it for some reasons. 1.rotw had only 1 day uptime, and you are very sensitive about rotw uptime cyclopp. 2. its 1st. April. 3. eDark hasnt visited this page for a long time which might not be relevant but I highly doubt he would bother to deep check any demos these days when we consider his super busy real life. I think this is just another desperate try to bust VNS w/o a solid proof cuz of some personal stuff between staff and VNS. My opinion.

1 Apr 2015, 21:27

srsly .. try to be more creative

1 Apr 2015, 21:30

i told u ice you shouldn't share ur hack

1 Apr 2015, 21:38

hahaahhahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

1 Apr 2015, 21:39

lol'd

1 Apr 2015, 21:41

i'lll believe it tomorrow

1 Apr 2015, 21:44

Too bad it's 1st April...

1 Apr 2015, 22:12

#iwanttobelieve

1 Apr 2015, 22:45

so many smarties fools here who think this is 1 april joke? :d

1 Apr 2015, 22:49

Best prank EVER.

1 Apr 2015, 22:56

it would be even better prank if it were true haha

1 Apr 2015, 23:33

i like the part where vns' demos are removed.

2 Apr 2015, 10:31

Usually it's not that easy to do and takes some time. However now all cheated demos are removed, so don't worry.

2 Apr 2015, 11:50

cool (y)

1 Apr 2015, 23:58

pff...now i guess i'll have to download some vns demos, just for the memories...

2 Apr 2015, 06:11

i already did :) coz i admired him :(

2 Apr 2015, 00:19

xddddddddddddddd

4 different hacks is a strong attitude. btw his players' profile sums up his all time demos in 68 http://i.imgur.com/6C7pvjZ.jpg and in the post it says 64, there were clean demos from him?

2 Apr 2015, 08:54

Yes, the ones from 2010-2011 are clean.

So you actually got to check all of the 68 demos? WOW. Or you went smarter and distributed demos by small groups of years or time periods. Either way good job mate, I appreciate community has the guy like you especially in these hard times :)

2 Apr 2015, 15:43

I'm just a retarded guy who keeps reading old posts for fun, when I have nothing to do I've seen those fame's posts during in chopping block, about VNS Proofs were OBVIOUS, and even ingenious, I was like ''what the fuck man, this dude is a scientist'', but for some reason he got banned afterwards I don't know what you guys think about science and stuff, but things fame did are as difficult as publishing an average scientific article (in chemistry at least, I know about that lol) And on top of everything, fame is a great guy I sent him 3 demos to check for cheats, and he actually did that, and did a great job, not only just one look at the demos, and replied me just a few hours I sent him those if XJ ever removes him from his admin position, I will quit this corrupted shit for sure, I hope with many others who think like me (or how fame would say, ''guys who thinks like me'' :D

2 Apr 2015, 00:41

It's easy to think that this might be a joke, so i understand everyone saying april fools. We will see tomorrow or the day after that if this was just a joke or not.. and even if it was a joke, it's a fail. Good try XJ, nonetheless. :P

2 Apr 2015, 00:42

they said he cheated in 64 tho gj for the 4 clean dems :D and nice april fools joke admins :D

2 Apr 2015, 00:42

bruh end my carreer but why destroy my life? / VNS

2 Apr 2015, 00:46

inb4 64 replaced with 68

2 Apr 2015, 00:46

hey vns

2 Apr 2015, 00:48

hello

.........

2 Apr 2015, 01:44

I Can't Belive This...

2 Apr 2015, 02:33

finnaly good job

2 Apr 2015, 02:36

LOL

2 Apr 2015, 02:48

gj!!!

2 Apr 2015, 04:42

finishin

2 Apr 2015, 05:24

stop killing kz more than it already is, morons.

2 Apr 2015, 06:12

now shxkh is the new boss

2 Apr 2015, 06:21

FINISH HIM! [b]MORTAL KOMBAT X[/b]

2 Apr 2015, 07:46

02/04/15 - 02:24:11 ? If it's april's fool then it was too late.

2 Apr 2015, 09:03

I FUCKING KNEW IT! BURNN GJ admins!!!!

2 Apr 2015, 09:23

old news for me. gj democheckers

2 Apr 2015, 10:05

gj

2 Apr 2015, 10:50

holy shit demos are removed. loooooool.

2 Apr 2015, 10:59

gz shnz top2

2 Apr 2015, 11:47

not playing for years but this made me happier))

2 Apr 2015, 11:55

good job [flag]Ukraine[/flag] fame

2 Apr 2015, 12:01

Joke or not? i don't get it...

2 Apr 2015, 12:13

Sweden cs/kz players = all cheaters ;)

2 Apr 2015, 12:15

i mean, couldn't you have chosen another day for this instead of the day when no one believes anything?

2 Apr 2015, 12:23

you had potential fame... shame you've wasted it, i also don't believe for a second that is a quote from eDark. maybe i should just give you guys the tools to stop you all being so clueless? meh you'd probably still be clueless anyways... oh well GL recording guys

2 Apr 2015, 12:35

Hmmm, u uploaded it before so...

2 Apr 2015, 13:01

1) You uploaded the demos, which means your demo checking isn't the best, not even close 2) You keep coming after every news post saying you know all the stuff and have all the tools and everyone else is just stupid. You seem like those naked 12-14 old girls on Facebook seeking attention.

3 Apr 2015, 18:10

[blockquote]2) You keep coming after every news post saying you know all the stuff and have all the tools and everyone else is just stupid. You seem like those naked 12-14 old girls on Facebook seeking attention.[/blockquote] thats all i want to say.

2 Apr 2015, 14:12

You are right, I had potential. But you, you didn't have any potential. All what you had is eDark's tools (which you likes so much to brag) and his trust. And what you decided to do with all of these? Instead of doing something good, you decided to cover asses of your friends while they were cheating. You was too confident that eDark left us, so you thought you are in safe and can do whatever you want without a threat of being caught. It wasn't that hard to make people believe in your words when I started this thread about VNS last year. I had less than 1 year experience in demochecking back to then and learned all the stuff about it on my own. And you was a person who ostensibly has a lot of knowledge because eDark taught you everything, so you was able to say that I'm not experienced enough and my proofs are false and everyone will believe you. That's exactly what you did back to then. At first I didn't understand anything, I was like "WTF, how he can't see what I'm talking about?". You looked like a nice guy, who told me several times that I'm a decent demochecker so I thought I just need to explain you everything in a better way. But later I understood that you are phony and you will protect your friends at any cost. I really don't know if it's that strong friendship or something else like money was involved. But now, when eDark confirmed himself that VNS is a cheater, what you will say now? Of course, you will say that it's fake and it's not his words. But you know, now you and your words worth nothing. Even when you left demo admin position all what you could is write under every single newspost that you have tools which no one else has (you did it this time too, that's just ridiculous). But what you did with all these tools and knowledge? You did nothing good comparing to the all shit you did. Without any doubts it was a big mistake that you ever was accepted on demo admin position and I really hope now people will see who you actually is. Anyway, I feel sorry for those who were fooled by you. P.S. For those who thinks that chatlog is fake because eDark wasn't logged in here for 8 months: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0eefeeodw4dxtk/2vu0rh4.jpg?dl=0 The conversation was in steam a couple of months ago. P.S.S. The goal of posting it on 1st April was to make people think that it's a joke while actually it is not. Glad to see that at least someone got it :)

2 Apr 2015, 15:27

Quote: The conversation was in steam a couple of months ago. You were not telling us the truth "a couple of month", just waiting for the 1 april?

3 Apr 2015, 10:46

We don't have unlimited amount of cheaters to post, that's the reason why we can't post them every week. Also we didn't wait for 1st April, idea to do it came to mind only 2 weeks before it.

2 Apr 2015, 21:22

Not to be that guy, but nowhere on the screen shot is VNS mentioned, you could've been talking about anyone, just saying.

2 Apr 2015, 21:31

true, must have banned him, because he is from Sweden fucking eastern european fags !!!11

2 Apr 2015, 12:34

I started screaming when I saw the post and I don't think banning cheaters is sad news, especially banning VNS, because everybody kept complaining he was a cheater, so I guess people would be happy and I don't think it's a joke, it would be mean to VNS to joke like that if he wasn't a cheater also, I had a secret report from someone ''inside'' (months ago) that VNS was about to get banned And to all who keep saying ''why did you post this on april 1st?'', well that was the point, so we are not sure if it's real or not, nice humour by xj staff there

2 Apr 2015, 12:43

The restored demos were added to newspost, click "Read the rest..." to see them.

2 Apr 2015, 14:56

Thank you!

2 Apr 2015, 12:55

Lol'd at Leggie whining about stuff he was suppose to see (since it was obvious).

2 Apr 2015, 13:34

+1 always feels great to see leggie whine :D he so mad

2 Apr 2015, 13:06

Well now i know it's real and i'm so happy :) when i chatted with VNS and i asked him why everyone call him cheater , he said: "because im the best bhopper" well the best cheater maybe :D shNz is the best everyone know that <3

2 Apr 2015, 21:28

how about kelta ?

2 Apr 2015, 21:45

For sure KeltA is one of the best ever but for me shNz is the best .

2 Apr 2015, 13:23

Well, this is the first time VNS is caught right? According to the rules he have one chance to prove to the community that he will not cheat anymore and a paper to write. After 6 months ofc. So is he really banned for life?

2 Apr 2015, 14:03

We should also unban LyNn then?

2 Apr 2015, 14:33

Ofc not but he should also get a chance as the rules says.

2 Apr 2015, 14:34

If he wants to explain about the cheats and write that paper. As the rules says.

I'm sorry but he has been cheating for 4 years before he was caught, 4 years mate. It beats all the records that has been set by any other cheater in whole XJ's existence and he certainly did the most harm in recording than anyone else did. I get your point that rules must be followed mo matter what but I think some cases are more special than others. But whatever will be decided, he doesn't stand a chance to be forgiven even after an essay. He is simply done and does not belong here.

2 Apr 2015, 16:57

Yeah I get that to. Well, whatevs I guess you're right.

2 Apr 2015, 13:44

WeMeRa,when you cheat using 4 different hacks in 64 demos and say in forum its "scroll bug on g400" you are definately banned for life el negro

2 Apr 2015, 14:39

However, we offer every cheater a one-time chance to convince us that he changed after a period of 6 months. This will happen over an essay written for us admins, including the motives of cheating, the way of cheating (including detailed explanation of which programs were used and how they work) and some words about what caused a change of thinking. Any attempt to avoid the bantime by creating new accounts, or using the accounts of a friend, will blast this chance.

2 Apr 2015, 13:58

now ban leggie

2 Apr 2015, 14:30

Thank you XJ For Busted This Cheaters Now True Jumpers Can RIse

Now true jumpers can rise... I like the sound of it :)

2 Apr 2015, 20:09

It reminds me of the movie "The Dark Knight Rises".

2 Apr 2015, 14:32

April FOoooools Detected ^^^^^^^

2 Apr 2015, 14:41

gj XJ :)

2 Apr 2015, 15:29

Finally ! Good Job

2 Apr 2015, 16:41

so that's really true? lol bullcheat!

2 Apr 2015, 16:59

wow!

2 Apr 2015, 18:18

xj literally deded.

2 Apr 2015, 18:50

so shNz beated cheated demos , nice :D

thats what i thought too lol :D

2 Apr 2015, 18:51

Cmon VNS, can't you tell me how wrong I was again all the times on public when I said you were a cheater !? Fuck You. *Waiting for more of these glorious posts*

2 Apr 2015, 19:24

As i see it was a good deal to shNz :D

2 Apr 2015, 19:27

shNz: Not even cheaters can fuck with me. *pff*

2 Apr 2015, 20:51

Something like that haha

2 Apr 2015, 19:46

at least he is a friendly dude :D

2 Apr 2015, 20:21

gozpo!

2 Apr 2015, 20:26

gizpO! :]

2 Apr 2015, 20:25

Haha VNS ;) I guess i always had an idea about it, in the back of my head. Anyway you are a nice guy, unlike pricks like shnz. So just gonna say GL in life bro, Maybe it's time for some LoL duoQ? :)

5 Apr 2015, 08:40

Good to see that people have respect for cheaters :D

5 Apr 2015, 12:29

I don't know if VNS is a good guy, never talked to him but calling shNz a prick? He is one of the best guys here, always is willing to help and replies to every pm with lots of dedication, not like most guys who don't even bother to reply at all

2 Apr 2015, 21:02

SICK RELEASE SHNZ!!!!

2 Apr 2015, 21:04

Pathetic... There isn't anything to gain from KZ anymore, there is literally no reason to cheat now.

2 Apr 2015, 21:31

pls unblock me. not getting u internet points is not a valid reason to destroy a real friendship. pls fix ur mistake ok thanks

2 Apr 2015, 21:38

he had a good run 3 years undetected gj, gl in the future

2 Apr 2015, 21:49

leggie if u knew about this you are a grade a c*nt - straight up

2 Apr 2015, 21:59

ahhahahaha yesterday nobody cant bilieve that :D

2 Apr 2015, 23:02

nice avatar

3 Apr 2015, 08:52

Thanks, I tried

4 Apr 2015, 09:59

haha, love your avatar

2 Apr 2015, 23:28

Somehow it is funny... He fooled you guys [b]5[/b] years and had at least [b]64[/b] cheated demos here. No demoadmin was able to detect it. GJ VNS, harhar

3 Apr 2015, 00:47

[b]Three[/b], not [b]five[/b].

3 Apr 2015, 00:04

When someone push the delet button to lewlys demos?

5 Apr 2015, 20:21

Unlike VNS, which i admired, I don't think LEWLY is a cheater... I mean.. LEWLY just isn't a .. strafing machine.. n'or has extreme stats... He just plans his jumps very good. I think :D I can be wrong too

3 Apr 2015, 00:12

GJ Fame, but why did u wait so long? i remember that news was online for some minutes at the end of december :O Pls check leggies other mates now ;)

3 Apr 2015, 10:56

We decided to wait until we get confirmation personally from eDark to let people understand that there can't be any mistake.

5 Apr 2015, 20:22

Fame are you RO ? I see it says "februarie"

5 Apr 2015, 21:04

The chatlog is between Ovidiu and eDark.

3 Apr 2015, 00:25

But the really interesting thing for me is. What is about all the other players where beated his demos?? :D I am sure that was not the last one in the record list. MEH

3 Apr 2015, 01:30

[img]http://memecrunch.com/meme/3AVAJ/just-came-to-read-the-comments-bill-hader-popcorn/image.png[/img]

3 Apr 2015, 01:39

so, wasnt it a joke? then u admins owe us some stuff for april 1st

3 Apr 2015, 01:41

omg I shouldn't have deleted my venice demo of 1:19 then...

I was smarter to save my luonto especially for the occasion :D

3 Apr 2015, 10:53

yea and i lost my kz_kzsca_research .... rip next v2

3 Apr 2015, 09:46

been some months since my last visit here those news makes me want to get on the track again doing my thing you know, even tho i knew this since a long time its probbaly the best news this year.. fucking love it keep the good work upp you make me proud of beeing apart of this community!1

3 Apr 2015, 10:18

Yeah it's time the swedes get a new #1 ;)

4 Apr 2015, 21:27

Go for it bro!

3 Apr 2015, 12:10

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEGGIESFAVORITEPLAYER

3 Apr 2015, 12:13

aka I do records first try

3 Apr 2015, 12:16

i just wanna say:"good job"

3 Apr 2015, 15:47

glad to see this post. keep up busting dem assholes

3 Apr 2015, 22:17

1st april fool's prank Gone wrong! anyway, good job shNz for top5 =)

3 Apr 2015, 22:19

oh shit, *top2*, sorry

5 Apr 2015, 11:40

ok, so, someone saw more then 64 cheated demos and said ok? srl? :D

5 Apr 2015, 15:49

nice cheat machine

5 Apr 2015, 19:08

HAHA another swedish hacker they just cant play without hacks? lewly next when?

5 Apr 2015, 19:17

LEWLY not cheater

5 Apr 2015, 19:24

kayne didnt cheat vns didnt cheat monk didnt cheat swedish ppl just cant play this game without some advantage

5 Apr 2015, 20:22

Are you serious? What's the difference, that he lives in Sweden. There are good players and cheaters in any country. So please, stop making such unfounded and insulting statements.

5 Apr 2015, 21:36

iiNyourface (

7 Apr 2015, 12:16

No, Sweden having so many cheaters is cs history.. So i think there is more in this scene 8)

7 Apr 2015, 19:46

Sooner or later everything falls in place :).

7 Apr 2015, 20:37

soulz0rftw where are you ? tell them i've never cheated!

8 Apr 2015, 01:11

gj staff old news for me

8 Apr 2015, 08:28

"Scroll bug on g400" laughing my ass off at that haha Lrs, shock, shnz cmon guys... Go beat some bitches now! gj admins. But seriously don't post those vague "the hacking part is solid" type of chat logs. If it's such sort of "world would undergo a nuclear warfare if we release our super secret cia chatlogs" please don't post anything from now on. We would believe anyway with what you write. cause we don't have any other options anyway.

11 Apr 2015, 17:22

LyNn,VNS,kabeN† Next» kayne

16 Apr 2015, 08:32

rofl