Cheating: Banned for life #4: VNS

By Ovidiu Dumitru·
Hello community,

To be quite honest, when we first started this we thought it will be enjoying cleaning up the community. The thought of starting fresh was overwhelming. But now, we have come to realize that our actions will also do some damage. We already knew that, but somehow, as we go deeper into the problem we get that feeling of awareness and suddenly everything feels more "real".

I guess this is because we kind of have the first major player about to be banned. VNS is considered, more or less, by a considerable proportion of our audience, as an iconic players. And when this happens to someone like that, dark feelings are also bound to happen.

However, we would like to think that all this is for a greater good. So, with this being said, let's get into some facts. We will reveal as much as we can, without mentioning sensitive informations about our checking procedure.

Before going any further, we would like to mention that we had to discuss this matter with the well known eDark before taking any decision. We felt that it is important to find out his opinion and eventually to have his blessing, more or less, because we wanted to be absolutely sure of our findings. In the end, this was his conclusion:

[quote="eDark"]eDark: overall i would say the hacking part is solid
eDark: yes for the hacking part it s enough[/quote]
So, between the years of 2012 and 2015 he used 4 different bhop hacks and he recorded 64 cheated demos. You may also ask yourself what does the "hacking part" means. Well, beside the cheating proofs we had there were also other suspicious facts, but those do not concern Xtreme-Jumps and due to this reason are left out.
All of his demos will be deleted and he will be permanently banned.

This is an unfortunate case, as the player in question had a special place in our hearts and he was on the way to really leave a mark in our KZ community.

However, our journey doesn't stop here and we are really working on possible solutions to change this community for the better. These things require time, but we are confident we will manage to accomplish some of them, at least.

Thank you for your attention and see you soon!

Best regards,
Xtreme-Jumps.eu

Read the extended news post for demos that were restored.

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01/04/2015 21:02:00

aha

01/04/2015 21:03:00

old news

01/04/2015 21:03:00

ayy lmao

01/04/2015 21:03:00

old joke)

01/04/2015 21:03:00

GG

01/04/2015 21:03:00

Dat April fools with Edark quote to make it more valid.

01/04/2015 21:03:00

finally

01/04/2015 21:04:00

hahahahahaha, im sry but someone getting banned always makes me happy. i basically become a littlebit better player overall :D

02/04/2015 18:00:00

I love the way you think :-)

01/04/2015 21:04:00

"the strafe machine" HAHAHA IMAO

01/04/2015 21:14:00

Joke :D

01/04/2015 21:04:00

LONG TIME COMING KNEW HIS BHOP WAS TOO GOOD (btw u guys cant be taken seriously after pu9 and LOLLYs post.....................)

01/04/2015 21:05:00

actually if its april fools i take it back xD

01/04/2015 21:05:00

April 1sttttttttttttt

01/04/2015 21:05:00

now you wouldnt joke about it, would you?)))

01/04/2015 21:07:00

nice prank XJ

01/04/2015 21:08:00

shoudve written about bibika, would be more convincing.

01/04/2015 21:09:00

so smart XJ for 1st april :o

01/04/2015 21:12:00

Finally! Nice job :)

01/04/2015 21:12:00

"/ And if it was planned and aDmins already found his cheat and decided to release it on 1st of April? What then "/

01/04/2015 21:14:00

eDark : Last visit: ( 8 months, 2 days, 23 hours, 34 minutes, 9 seconds ago )

01/04/2015 21:16:00

fail

01/04/2015 21:15:00

Should have been posted tomorrow to avoid people thinking that's a joke. Nonetheless, great job and keep it this way.

01/04/2015 21:18:00

im having a hard time to believe it for some reasons. 1.rotw had only 1 day uptime, and you are very sensitive about rotw uptime cyclopp. 2. its 1st. April. 3. eDark hasnt visited this page for a long time which might not be relevant but I highly doubt he would bother to deep check any demos these days when we consider his super busy real life. I think this is just another desperate try to bust VNS w/o a solid proof cuz of some personal stuff between staff and VNS. My opinion.

01/04/2015 21:27:00

srsly .. try to be more creative

01/04/2015 21:30:00

i told u ice you shouldn't share ur hack

01/04/2015 21:38:00

hahaahhahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

01/04/2015 21:39:00

lol'd

01/04/2015 21:41:00

i'lll believe it tomorrow

01/04/2015 21:44:00

Too bad it's 1st April...

01/04/2015 22:12:00

#iwanttobelieve

01/04/2015 22:45:00

so many smarties fools here who think this is 1 april joke? :d

01/04/2015 22:49:00

Best prank EVER.

01/04/2015 22:56:00

it would be even better prank if it were true haha

01/04/2015 23:33:00

i like the part where vns' demos are removed.

02/04/2015 10:31:00

Usually it's not that easy to do and takes some time. However now all cheated demos are removed, so don't worry.

02/04/2015 11:50:00

cool (y)

01/04/2015 23:58:00

pff...now i guess i'll have to download some vns demos, just for the memories...

02/04/2015 06:11:00

i already did :) coz i admired him :(

02/04/2015 00:19:00

xddddddddddddddd

02/04/2015 00:36:00

4 different hacks is a strong attitude. btw his players' profile sums up his all time demos in 68 http://i.imgur.com/6C7pvjZ.jpg and in the post it says 64, there were clean demos from him?

02/04/2015 08:54:00

Yes, the ones from 2010-2011 are clean.

02/04/2015 15:18:00

So you actually got to check all of the 68 demos? WOW. Or you went smarter and distributed demos by small groups of years or time periods. Either way good job mate, I appreciate community has the guy like you especially in these hard times :)

02/04/2015 15:43:00

I'm just a retarded guy who keeps reading old posts for fun, when I have nothing to do I've seen those fame's posts during in chopping block, about VNS Proofs were OBVIOUS, and even ingenious, I was like ''what the fuck man, this dude is a scientist'', but for some reason he got banned afterwards I don't know what you guys think about science and stuff, but things fame did are as difficult as publishing an average scientific article (in chemistry at least, I know about that lol) And on top of everything, fame is a great guy I sent him 3 demos to check for cheats, and he actually did that, and did a great job, not only just one look at the demos, and replied me just a few hours I sent him those if XJ ever removes him from his admin position, I will quit this corrupted shit for sure, I hope with many others who think like me (or how fame would say, ''guys who thinks like me'' :D

02/04/2015 00:41:00

It's easy to think that this might be a joke, so i understand everyone saying april fools. We will see tomorrow or the day after that if this was just a joke or not.. and even if it was a joke, it's a fail. Good try XJ, nonetheless. :P

02/04/2015 00:42:00

they said he cheated in 64 tho gj for the 4 clean dems :D and nice april fools joke admins :D

02/04/2015 00:42:00

bruh end my carreer but why destroy my life? / VNS

02/04/2015 00:46:00

inb4 64 replaced with 68

02/04/2015 00:46:00

hey vns

02/04/2015 00:48:00

hello

02/04/2015 01:13:00

.........

02/04/2015 01:44:00

I Can't Belive This...

02/04/2015 02:33:00

finnaly good job

02/04/2015 02:36:00

LOL

02/04/2015 02:48:00

gj!!!

02/04/2015 04:42:00

finishin

02/04/2015 05:24:00

stop killing kz more than it already is, morons.

02/04/2015 06:12:00

now shxkh is the new boss

02/04/2015 06:21:00

FINISH HIM! [b]MORTAL KOMBAT X[/b]

02/04/2015 07:46:00

02/04/15 - 02:24:11 ? If it's april's fool then it was too late.

02/04/2015 09:03:00

I FUCKING KNEW IT! BURNN GJ admins!!!!

02/04/2015 09:23:00

old news for me. gj democheckers

02/04/2015 10:05:00

gj

02/04/2015 10:50:00

holy shit demos are removed. loooooool.

02/04/2015 10:59:00

gz shnz top2

02/04/2015 11:47:00

not playing for years but this made me happier))

02/04/2015 11:55:00

good job [flag]Ukraine[/flag] fame

02/04/2015 12:01:00

Joke or not? i don't get it...

02/04/2015 12:13:00

Sweden cs/kz players = all cheaters ;)

02/04/2015 12:15:00

i mean, couldn't you have chosen another day for this instead of the day when no one believes anything?

02/04/2015 12:23:00

you had potential fame... shame you've wasted it, i also don't believe for a second that is a quote from eDark. maybe i should just give you guys the tools to stop you all being so clueless? meh you'd probably still be clueless anyways... oh well GL recording guys

02/04/2015 12:35:00

Hmmm, u uploaded it before so...

02/04/2015 13:01:00

1) You uploaded the demos, which means your demo checking isn't the best, not even close 2) You keep coming after every news post saying you know all the stuff and have all the tools and everyone else is just stupid. You seem like those naked 12-14 old girls on Facebook seeking attention.

03/04/2015 18:10:00

[blockquote]2) You keep coming after every news post saying you know all the stuff and have all the tools and everyone else is just stupid. You seem like those naked 12-14 old girls on Facebook seeking attention.[/blockquote] thats all i want to say.

02/04/2015 14:12:00

You are right, I had potential. But you, you didn't have any potential. All what you had is eDark's tools (which you likes so much to brag) and his trust. And what you decided to do with all of these? Instead of doing something good, you decided to cover asses of your friends while they were cheating. You was too confident that eDark left us, so you thought you are in safe and can do whatever you want without a threat of being caught. It wasn't that hard to make people believe in your words when I started this thread about VNS last year. I had less than 1 year experience in demochecking back to then and learned all the stuff about it on my own. And you was a person who ostensibly has a lot of knowledge because eDark taught you everything, so you was able to say that I'm not experienced enough and my proofs are false and everyone will believe you. That's exactly what you did back to then. At first I didn't understand anything, I was like "WTF, how he can't see what I'm talking about?". You looked like a nice guy, who told me several times that I'm a decent demochecker so I thought I just need to explain you everything in a better way. But later I understood that you are phony and you will protect your friends at any cost. I really don't know if it's that strong friendship or something else like money was involved. But now, when eDark confirmed himself that VNS is a cheater, what you will say now? Of course, you will say that it's fake and it's not his words. But you know, now you and your words worth nothing. Even when you left demo admin position all what you could is write under every single newspost that you have tools which no one else has (you did it this time too, that's just ridiculous). But what you did with all these tools and knowledge? You did nothing good comparing to the all shit you did. Without any doubts it was a big mistake that you ever was accepted on demo admin position and I really hope now people will see who you actually is. Anyway, I feel sorry for those who were fooled by you. P.S. For those who thinks that chatlog is fake because eDark wasn't logged in here for 8 months: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0eefeeodw4dxtk/2vu0rh4.jpg?dl=0 The conversation was in steam a couple of months ago. P.S.S. The goal of posting it on 1st April was to make people think that it's a joke while actually it is not. Glad to see that at least someone got it :)

02/04/2015 15:27:00

Quote: The conversation was in steam a couple of months ago. You were not telling us the truth "a couple of month", just waiting for the 1 april?

03/04/2015 10:46:00

We don't have unlimited amount of cheaters to post, that's the reason why we can't post them every week. Also we didn't wait for 1st April, idea to do it came to mind only 2 weeks before it.

02/04/2015 21:22:00

Not to be that guy, but nowhere on the screen shot is VNS mentioned, you could've been talking about anyone, just saying.

02/04/2015 21:31:00

true, must have banned him, because he is from Sweden fucking eastern european fags !!!11

02/04/2015 12:34:00

I started screaming when I saw the post and I don't think banning cheaters is sad news, especially banning VNS, because everybody kept complaining he was a cheater, so I guess people would be happy and I don't think it's a joke, it would be mean to VNS to joke like that if he wasn't a cheater also, I had a secret report from someone ''inside'' (months ago) that VNS was about to get banned And to all who keep saying ''why did you post this on april 1st?'', well that was the point, so we are not sure if it's real or not, nice humour by xj staff there

02/04/2015 12:43:00

The restored demos were added to newspost, click "Read the rest..." to see them.

02/04/2015 14:56:00

Thank you!

02/04/2015 12:55:00

Lol'd at Leggie whining about stuff he was suppose to see (since it was obvious).

02/04/2015 13:34:00

+1 always feels great to see leggie whine :D he so mad

02/04/2015 13:06:00

Well now i know it's real and i'm so happy :) when i chatted with VNS and i asked him why everyone call him cheater , he said: "because im the best bhopper" well the best cheater maybe :D shNz is the best everyone know that <3

02/04/2015 21:28:00

how about kelta ?

02/04/2015 21:45:00

For sure KeltA is one of the best ever but for me shNz is the best .

02/04/2015 13:23:00

Well, this is the first time VNS is caught right? According to the rules he have one chance to prove to the community that he will not cheat anymore and a paper to write. After 6 months ofc. So is he really banned for life?

02/04/2015 14:03:00

We should also unban LyNn then?

02/04/2015 14:33:00

Ofc not but he should also get a chance as the rules says.

02/04/2015 14:34:00

If he wants to explain about the cheats and write that paper. As the rules says.

02/04/2015 15:37:00

I'm sorry but he has been cheating for 4 years before he was caught, 4 years mate. It beats all the records that has been set by any other cheater in whole XJ's existence and he certainly did the most harm in recording than anyone else did. I get your point that rules must be followed mo matter what but I think some cases are more special than others. But whatever will be decided, he doesn't stand a chance to be forgiven even after an essay. He is simply done and does not belong here.

02/04/2015 16:57:00

Yeah I get that to. Well, whatevs I guess you're right.

02/04/2015 13:44:00

WeMeRa,when you cheat using 4 different hacks in 64 demos and say in forum its "scroll bug on g400" you are definately banned for life el negro

02/04/2015 14:39:00

However, we offer every cheater a one-time chance to convince us that he changed after a period of 6 months. This will happen over an essay written for us admins, including the motives of cheating, the way of cheating (including detailed explanation of which programs were used and how they work) and some words about what caused a change of thinking. Any attempt to avoid the bantime by creating new accounts, or using the accounts of a friend, will blast this chance.

02/04/2015 13:58:00

now ban leggie

02/04/2015 14:30:00

Thank you XJ For Busted This Cheaters Now True Jumpers Can RIse

02/04/2015 15:19:00

Now true jumpers can rise... I like the sound of it :)

02/04/2015 20:09:00

It reminds me of the movie "The Dark Knight Rises".

02/04/2015 14:32:00

April FOoooools Detected ^^^^^^^

02/04/2015 14:41:00

gj XJ :)

02/04/2015 15:29:00

Finally ! Good Job

02/04/2015 16:41:00

so that's really true? lol bullcheat!

02/04/2015 16:59:00

wow!

02/04/2015 18:18:00

xj literally deded.

02/04/2015 18:50:00

so shNz beated cheated demos , nice :D

02/04/2015 19:13:00

thats what i thought too lol :D

02/04/2015 18:51:00

Cmon VNS, can't you tell me how wrong I was again all the times on public when I said you were a cheater !? Fuck You. *Waiting for more of these glorious posts*

02/04/2015 19:24:00

As i see it was a good deal to shNz :D

02/04/2015 19:27:00

shNz: Not even cheaters can fuck with me. *pff*

02/04/2015 20:51:00

Something like that haha

02/04/2015 19:46:00

at least he is a friendly dude :D

02/04/2015 20:21:00

gozpo!

02/04/2015 20:26:00

gizpO! :]

02/04/2015 20:25:00

Haha VNS ;) I guess i always had an idea about it, in the back of my head. Anyway you are a nice guy, unlike pricks like shnz. So just gonna say GL in life bro, Maybe it's time for some LoL duoQ? :)

05/04/2015 08:40:00

Good to see that people have respect for cheaters :D

05/04/2015 12:29:00

I don't know if VNS is a good guy, never talked to him but calling shNz a prick? He is one of the best guys here, always is willing to help and replies to every pm with lots of dedication, not like most guys who don't even bother to reply at all

02/04/2015 21:02:00

SICK RELEASE SHNZ!!!!

02/04/2015 21:04:00

Pathetic... There isn't anything to gain from KZ anymore, there is literally no reason to cheat now.

02/04/2015 21:31:00

pls unblock me. not getting u internet points is not a valid reason to destroy a real friendship. pls fix ur mistake ok thanks

02/04/2015 21:38:00

he had a good run 3 years undetected gj, gl in the future

02/04/2015 21:49:00

leggie if u knew about this you are a grade a c*nt - straight up

02/04/2015 21:59:00

ahhahahaha yesterday nobody cant bilieve that :D

02/04/2015 23:02:00

nice avatar

03/04/2015 08:52:00

Thanks, I tried

04/04/2015 09:59:00

haha, love your avatar

02/04/2015 23:28:00

Somehow it is funny... He fooled you guys [b]5[/b] years and had at least [b]64[/b] cheated demos here. No demoadmin was able to detect it. GJ VNS, harhar

03/04/2015 00:47:00

[b]Three[/b], not [b]five[/b].

03/04/2015 00:04:00

When someone push the delet button to lewlys demos?

05/04/2015 20:21:00

Unlike VNS, which i admired, I don't think LEWLY is a cheater... I mean.. LEWLY just isn't a .. strafing machine.. n'or has extreme stats... He just plans his jumps very good. I think :D I can be wrong too

03/04/2015 00:12:00

GJ Fame, but why did u wait so long? i remember that news was online for some minutes at the end of december :O Pls check leggies other mates now ;)

03/04/2015 10:56:00

We decided to wait until we get confirmation personally from eDark to let people understand that there can't be any mistake.

05/04/2015 20:22:00

Fame are you RO ? I see it says "februarie"

05/04/2015 21:04:00

The chatlog is between Ovidiu and eDark.

03/04/2015 00:25:00

But the really interesting thing for me is. What is about all the other players where beated his demos?? :D I am sure that was not the last one in the record list. MEH

03/04/2015 01:30:00

[img]http://memecrunch.com/meme/3AVAJ/just-came-to-read-the-comments-bill-hader-popcorn/image.png[/img]

03/04/2015 01:39:00

so, wasnt it a joke? then u admins owe us some stuff for april 1st

03/04/2015 01:41:00

omg I shouldn't have deleted my venice demo of 1:19 then...

03/04/2015 02:09:00

I was smarter to save my luonto especially for the occasion :D

03/04/2015 10:53:00

yea and i lost my kz_kzsca_research .... rip next v2

03/04/2015 09:46:00

been some months since my last visit here those news makes me want to get on the track again doing my thing you know, even tho i knew this since a long time its probbaly the best news this year.. fucking love it keep the good work upp you make me proud of beeing apart of this community!1

03/04/2015 10:18:00

Yeah it's time the swedes get a new #1 ;)

04/04/2015 21:27:00

Go for it bro!

03/04/2015 12:10:00

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEGGIESFAVORITEPLAYER

03/04/2015 12:13:00

aka I do records first try

03/04/2015 12:16:00

i just wanna say:"good job"

03/04/2015 15:47:00

glad to see this post. keep up busting dem assholes

03/04/2015 22:17:00

1st april fool's prank Gone wrong! anyway, good job shNz for top5 =)

03/04/2015 22:19:00

oh shit, *top2*, sorry

05/04/2015 11:40:00

ok, so, someone saw more then 64 cheated demos and said ok? srl? :D

05/04/2015 15:49:00

nice cheat machine

05/04/2015 19:08:00

HAHA another swedish hacker they just cant play without hacks? lewly next when?

05/04/2015 19:17:00

LEWLY not cheater

05/04/2015 19:24:00

kayne didnt cheat vns didnt cheat monk didnt cheat swedish ppl just cant play this game without some advantage

05/04/2015 20:22:00

Are you serious? What's the difference, that he lives in Sweden. There are good players and cheaters in any country. So please, stop making such unfounded and insulting statements.

05/04/2015 21:36:00

iiNyourface (

07/04/2015 12:16:00

No, Sweden having so many cheaters is cs history.. So i think there is more in this scene 8)

07/04/2015 19:46:00

Sooner or later everything falls in place :).

07/04/2015 20:37:00

soulz0rftw where are you ? tell them i've never cheated!

08/04/2015 01:11:00

gj staff old news for me

08/04/2015 08:28:00

"Scroll bug on g400" laughing my ass off at that haha Lrs, shock, shnz cmon guys... Go beat some bitches now! gj admins. But seriously don't post those vague "the hacking part is solid" type of chat logs. If it's such sort of "world would undergo a nuclear warfare if we release our super secret cia chatlogs" please don't post anything from now on. We would believe anyway with what you write. cause we don't have any other options anyway.

11/04/2015 17:22:00

LyNn,VNS,kabeN† Next» kayne

16/04/2015 08:32:00

rofl