New rule against timerbugs

By faker mapper·
Hi guys,

first of all big thanks to ndR who helped us to realize the full scale of the problem of the timerbugs and helped us to find out how to cause these timerbugs.

First of all a little explanation:
The KZ Timer isnt 100% exact, there are time shifts of 0,1-1 seconds on small maps (under 2 min) and shifts about 2-3 seconds on bigger maps (under 5 minutes) and time shifts up to 6 seconds on really big maps (5-15 minutes).

A timerbug occurs with a probability of 90% if the server is running longer than 60 minutes: The timer will show a better time than you actually achieved. (about 5-15 seconds better).
The probablity that a timerbug will occur if your server is running for less than 60 minutes is 0,0%.

Thats why we want to announce a new rule against timerbugs:
If a demo contains a timerbug, it will not be accepted. To prevent timerbugs please restart your server every 60 minutes. The probability that a timerbug will occur if your server is running for more than 60 minutes is about 90%. (FAQ: What is a timerbug?)

All current record demos will be checked for timerbugs and removed if they are bugged of course. This will probably take some weeks and affect 20-30 demos.

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26/08/2006 19:00:00

emos with higher viewdemo times than 60:xx aren't accepted. so nobody is allowed to do a record of a map with climbtime of 61mins for example? i know the really world records aren't so long climb time. but maybe if someone want to do the kz_cg_extreme for first person who does a record on it and he heave over 60 mins. so normally it would be a record cause nobody others send a better time but it is now new not a record because he have over 60 minutes? lol hope you understand this english it looks stupid :D

26/08/2006 19:03:00

<3 :D

26/08/2006 19:04:00

1. If you restart the server your viewdemo time starts @ 00:00. And thats the important thing (not the viewdemo time at the end of the demo). 2. The KZ timer changes from 59:59 -> 00:00. => Wont be accepted anyway if its "01:05" instead of "61:05" 3. I know about 2 persons who did kz_cg_extreme under 20 minutes but don't send their demos cause they think "they are bad". I dont think someone will send in a 59:50 demo ^^

26/08/2006 19:04:00

hm...stupid for these 20 to 30 demos....but it would be unfair otherwise :( stupid hl :D

26/08/2006 19:08:00

Good rule GJ...but to bad for those who will loose one or more demos :/ but faire is faire...

26/08/2006 19:12:00

ah k didn't know that by restart the viewdemo time start @ 00:00 ye don't think too that a person will send a long time record on extreme but was only for interesting the question.... i think those both who did it under 20 mins (we saw it in thopa demo of in_extreme) fells a lot but still have a good time. but probably they think we want to have much less fells :D

26/08/2006 19:14:00

Good rule :)

26/08/2006 19:15:00

And the 30 demos will be removed from target :DD

26/08/2006 19:18:00

@kuttaja : i don't think so...

26/08/2006 19:22:00

It is going to be more and more complicated :> Sometime we have to follow 50 instead of 23 rules :/ good job anyway

26/08/2006 19:32:00

lol kutajja

26/08/2006 19:34:00

one day can u make a news with all the rules please!! :p :p

26/08/2006 19:38:00

ehm.. you know the rules-page?

26/08/2006 19:39:00

examine all demos? gj :D <3

26/08/2006 19:47:00

Updated the rules text: [i]If a demo contains a timerbug, it will not be accepted. To prevent timerbugs please restart your server every 60 minutes. The probability that a timerbug will occur if your server is running for more than 60 minutes is about 90%. (FAQ: What is a timerbug?)[/i]. Should be better to understand now. Thx to FikoN

26/08/2006 19:48:00

hmm i dont know why, but i like jumpin more and more, when rules are getting stricter... ndR for president!!! xD i mean GJ

26/08/2006 19:49:00

gj finding that bug

26/08/2006 20:00:00

I don't have anything else to say... maybe that [link=http://breda.guillaume.free.fr/useless.mp3] ... [/link]?

26/08/2006 20:00:00

lal kimo!

26/08/2006 20:53:00

by restarting ur server u mean: disconnect > new game > kz_hax_2k6 > record w99t ?

26/08/2006 20:58:00

good rule i agree totally with it all will be really wr after the rule application

26/08/2006 21:19:00

gj hf checking up all demos^^

26/08/2006 21:45:00

KNiFEAR: Yes, restarting means quit the game. Enter again and load the map again. Changelevel should work too, but for 100% guaranty restart the whole server

26/08/2006 22:04:00

mh ... if the demos are dll ive got a chance ^^o.O

26/08/2006 22:34:00

oh well, fair is fair, but if important demos like t3d's sandblock are lost ...... good rule

FikoN
26/08/2006 22:39:00

"Important demos like t3d's sandblock"? I don't see why one demo would be "more important" than any other?

26/08/2006 23:27:00

You cannot compare ted's sandblock or target's owtcity with some random demo.

26/08/2006 23:49:00

fikon: because teds sandblocks demo quality is so high that its worth 50 any other demos... you pick ever since i saw that demo (which was the first demo i saw on this site) i was so amazed.. i thought it was like hacked edited demo, and after that no other demos impressed me even alittle.. well maybe a couple of target demos so quality > quantaty... you can be the best jumper with 5 demos or be "ok" with 40 demos :D but dont get me wrong... you can imrpess on easy maps too, doesnt have to be a hard map. just has to be an amazing time which is very hard to do regardless of the map

27/08/2006 00:00:00

sandblock can still be done like 20 secs faster though :D

27/08/2006 02:00:00

thank you with ndr to have been indirectly the instigator of this new rule ^^ gj man

27/08/2006 05:26:00

good rule, lets hope not too many demo's are bugged :(

27/08/2006 07:56:00

nice rule...sorry to the guys who will lose their demos :( ...but this is a lousy advantage...

27/08/2006 09:43:00

Hmm why would t3d's sandblock being deleted when the demo view time or what ever is 28mins-36mins (?) and demos only over 60mins server running time are going to be deleted :D? sry for sucky english

28/08/2006 21:52:00

oh no, my self-esteem went downs 90% :( jk :P mwahahah more demo openings for meez but doubt ill get it :( i use weapon skins anyways, so :P