tarGet reloaded

By faker mapper·
Hi guys,

unfortunately there are sad news again:

Due to the re-check of all demos caused by the discovery of the timerbug, I've found some more cheat demos by tarGet.
Both demos are old demos and have been recorded before tarGet was banned the first time and weren't detectable at that time. He knew it all the time but kept silent :(

kz_man_bigezclimb_tarGet_1156 - Used Bhop hack
kz_wsp_islandclimb_tarGet_0536 - Used Speedhack

After he was confronted with the accusations he confessed everything and told us about 5 other cheatdemos which are current world records:

clintmo_pentablock_tarGet_0500 - Used a Gravity hack (~793-795)
kz_faw_cathedral_e_tarGet_0324 - Used a Gravity hack (~793-795)
sn_ezycity_tarGet_0253 - Used a Gravity hack (~793-795)
rpz_downfall[boxes]_tarGet_0005 - Used a Gravity hack (~793-795) + Speedhack
sn_nanoblock[easy]_tarGet_0425 - Used a Gravity hack (~793-795)

This 5 records got removed of course.

All of these demos are old demos that have been recorded before he got banned, so he didnt cheat again - he "just" didn't tell us the truth when he got banned the first time.
Because of these facts and because he confessed that he had cheated and helped us the find out the truth we decided to give him another chance and ban him for 3 months (until 01.12.2006) and not permanently.

Big thanks to eDark who helped me a lot with checking the demos.

To read tarGet's statement check the extended news.

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17/06/2006 09:47:00

no offence but that vid is deff not worth the download good knoledge just aint as good as jumping as u guys tbh :p

17/06/2006 15:13:00

I guess you don't even know SuPa.

18/06/2006 16:45:00

yea,its a GREAT movie :)

18/06/2006 21:12:00

nah i dont, shud i?

23/06/2006 11:00:00

god.. nubblets...

23/06/2006 11:27:00

"cough"

26/06/2006 14:58:00

no you shouldnt... but if you dont know dont critizice =/

27/06/2006 06:46:00

i dont like the vid end of stop moaning

16/07/2006 17:35:00

SuPa ftw :)

30/08/2006 20:11:00

muhhhhhhhhh?.... in any case tarGet is No.1

30/08/2006 20:14:00

Very sad news... This is actually biggest news i've heard in a while...

30/08/2006 20:16:00

lol target u retard xD

30/08/2006 20:16:00

rofl OMG why tarGet whyyyy :( :(

30/08/2006 20:19:00

noob

30/08/2006 20:20:00

i still think he is one of the best jumpers

30/08/2006 20:20:00

At least you can't cheat when swimming!!!! :P:P

30/08/2006 20:23:00

:/

30/08/2006 20:23:00

i didnt expected that from him but i think everyone get a second chance. ;/

30/08/2006 20:25:00

ok there are 2 sorts of haxx0r the ones which haxx and haxx and haxx and the other ones which learn that he do shit and stop with hax. so and all this demos are not actually recorded the actually don't have hax inside so he is one of the persons which stop hax and suree its not great that he hax before but stop hax also gets a kind of respect... i know the most think now "what the shit does TROUbl3m4k3R say" but i think in this way that my own opinion.... and tarGet show us that he after stop hax also are a n1 jumper without hax :)

30/08/2006 20:25:00

rofl though @ gravity hack in rpz_downfall[boxes] Hahaha. Legend

30/08/2006 20:27:00

wtf :S lol!! targ0at :D stop it allready ;p <3 gj eDark

30/08/2006 20:28:00

wayne?! target is still the number two and number one is alvin007 :D

30/08/2006 20:29:00

Kinda like finding out your favorite basketball/basball/football/soccer etc etc.. uses steroids but then stoped.

30/08/2006 20:30:00

yeah i think he still one of the best jumpers :) and troublemaker it's wright

30/08/2006 20:31:00

and again xD sure he`s still teh no.1 but i`ll laugh in 2 years - when eDark finds out he cheated in his new demos, too <3

30/08/2006 20:31:00

Target is very fortunate that they didn't found out at the time he submitted all these demos cause he would have been definitely banned for life and we would've never seen the real talent he has.

30/08/2006 20:33:00

lolol , so if i hax and stop next day , u respect me even more ?? men loool.. he should have just confessed when he was caught the first time..why keep it for himself this long time and then confess now :s thats not respect :/

30/08/2006 20:41:00

makes me sick that so many people use to cheat at online games.... go cheat at singleplayergames so no one care..... damn it! im pissed!

30/08/2006 20:44:00

fuck you target this statement sucks target 3month ban ?? is too litle for so many cheating but its "target" omg thats sucks

30/08/2006 20:45:00

so sad.. "once cheater, allways cheater" thats 1 and only fact

30/08/2006 20:48:00

In case some of you are blind: He did these demos roughly a year ago (I think), at the time when he was banned the first time. He hasn't cheated in a single demo since.

30/08/2006 20:50:00

hm...he's pro, did a mistake, stoped making mistakes! basta -.- It's really stupid to judge someone who cheated if you are a noob yourself! blaah blaah. don't wanna read things like "he should get banned permamently" ! basta basta basta

30/08/2006 20:50:00

lol ufui..take it easy...but he has a point...he did infact cheat on 7 demos...and the other ones the first time..3 months is too little.. trix got banned for 3 months + 5 for cheating on one single demo :/

30/08/2006 20:53:00

"guess uhmm.. Frei.. u were right after all ;P" Yes, but I'm not the only who think so 3months ? -_- permanent ? :)

30/08/2006 20:56:00

2year ban should be enough. mhh i know let's make a virtual court.. who's the judge? then we need jury mhh like some random script pic's 10guys jury and then to ventrilo.. target need's also a lawyer and some 1 have to be a prosecutior. faker maybe? and also court police officer t3dbundy to remove huligans.. aight!

30/08/2006 20:57:00

i`m to agree with jim bean

30/08/2006 21:00:00

:D (L) tarGet. I hope the admins don't check my demos :O *whistle*

30/08/2006 21:00:00

"one mistake isn't mistake two mistakes are two too much" how 7+3 or sumthing like that can be "mistake"?

30/08/2006 21:01:00

(L) HoHo^ :D

30/08/2006 21:04:00

2 questions : Why didn't target say on the 1st news other demos were cheated ? Why is he banned for 3 months (+1st ban) only for average 15 demos cheated with both news. I remember about a "cheat board" which was saying 4 demos cheated = ban for life. o_O

30/08/2006 21:04:00

I disagree with banning him because hes the best active player today, he did that when he was a noob, he earned the right not to be banned and i think you should let him continue with his demos because they are cool to watch, in 3 months time when hes unbanned hes gonna have like 30 demos ready to show at a time, just unban him and let them come every now and then

30/08/2006 21:07:00

word kimo

30/08/2006 21:07:00

<3 tarGet, ur still the best :). And lets not forget that these demos are very old :o. Shouldnt get banned at all imo! :P. He just did a small misstake and didnt tell admins about these demos when he got caught the first time :P. He will be back even stronger and BETTER! mohahah.. <3<3

30/08/2006 21:08:00

agree with kimo!!! btw gravity hax @ rpz_downfall >> :E >> <faker> haha sensless gj eDark faker and target for ur memory

30/08/2006 21:10:00

^^ care he proved enough..

30/08/2006 21:10:00

is it like know banners who's "pro" can cheat cos it looks "nice" but when some nub come's and does 1 demo he got 6month -> permanent ban. AND no 1 forced tarGet to jump with cheat.. its every1 own decision wheter jump with cheats or not..

30/08/2006 21:14:00

<3 tarGet

30/08/2006 21:15:00

hiGGe you are talking like he cheated again...he didnt...he just didnt tell admins about the other demos...im not saying it was ok to do that but, its not like he made new world record with cheat. 3 months is enough imo :E

30/08/2006 21:18:00

omilo where i am talking he cheated again.. i said only some facts but if like 10cheat demo holder get out without permanent bans and some 1 get permanent only with 1/2 demo is it right..? tarGet didnt get permanent only that why he didnt tell about other demos.. and now time has gone and ppl dont care but what a about some noob who wanted to be pro and cheated, busted and got banned.. now he hasent ever chance to proof he's after 6month training or sumthing like that..

30/08/2006 21:20:00

hes become pro "without" cheats i meant to say.. too tired so much typos

30/08/2006 21:22:00

omg tarGet you gansta ^^

30/08/2006 21:26:00

agree with hiGGe.... <3 :) rules are rules and every one should be handled the same way!?

30/08/2006 21:27:00

if he doesnt get perm ban........... its bullshit....

30/08/2006 21:29:00

oh jOa^ my honeybunny<3<3 :DDD

30/08/2006 21:30:00

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30/08/2006 21:33:00

bhaal your english roxx xD but 3month its not enough

30/08/2006 21:34:00

@hiGGe: its target's choice to cheat right ? well its xj admins choice not to perm ban him

30/08/2006 21:34:00

tarGet ever1 makes a failure still love you

30/08/2006 21:34:00

ban for 3 months (until 01.12.2006) you mean 2007? also guys to remove all of the confusion - target didnt get banned permanently because hes famous and randoms like trix and adrenaline get treated more harshly... yes thats life, it sucks & its not fair. So try to get born with talent, learn to run your mouth wisely (know who ur talking to, if its admin - suck up to him, if its a random flame him or dont say anything) then you'll make alot of friends, become famous, have alot of power and you might even get to be a forum mod! wicked eh? also ppl will support you, notice how when a random gets busted EVERYONE says noob, fag, loser... but not here. so go go go

30/08/2006 21:36:00

<3 tarG33k

30/08/2006 21:37:00

I am happy that it is not a permanant ban, otherwise tarGet would stop kreedzing *w00t* => the funny time on ventrilo and surfing and swimming and everyting will go on! :D <3

30/08/2006 21:37:00

to answer some questions: 1. Trix was banned permanenlty caused he created new account(s) and kept spamming and lying ("I haven't cheated"). 2. Yes, you are all right due to the rules we had to ban tarGet permanent (with the 1. ban). But that's like half a year ago but the decision was made like this and we wont permban tarGet now only cause he was lying about the amount of demos (even too we are very disappointed, too). And tarGet is in fact one of the best jumpers at that time, it would be sensless to ban him because his last 20 demos were all clean and just amazing. 3. Ill take your posts as insipiration and talk to the Managment about that permanent ban rules. Everybody deservs a second chance. amen

30/08/2006 21:38:00

same to me indeed.. dont care a bout.. its only fun to chat here.. and do arguments.. that usually get's ppl talking a lot :)

30/08/2006 21:40:00

damn, it was so funny to read this ;DDDD but rly fuck it.... tarGet` is pro and no matter if he cheated :O

30/08/2006 21:40:00

perm ban is ridiculous in this little scene should be one year enough for a "perm ban"

30/08/2006 21:40:00

amen hallelujah now c.s.i gn8 <3

30/08/2006 21:41:00

lol bhaal =) tarGet...

30/08/2006 21:41:00

word raYla :D

30/08/2006 21:42:00

[b]1. Warning for bhaal[/b] Talking another language. 2nd Warning -> 1 Week ban.

30/08/2006 21:47:00

and one more, i just dont get it why tarGet` got banned ... imo kinda pointless !!!

30/08/2006 21:51:00

i cant understand target he is so good but this isnt fair what ha has done .... I hope he will be back soon without any cheats :)

30/08/2006 21:54:00

aw man. this news has really really disappointed me :( i thought tarGet was completely legit and the epitome of jumping but today i find out he has hacked....and hacked ALOT. tis a pity =/ xtreme-jumps CANNOT perm ban him simply because he is one of the most known and spectated jumpers and to lose him from the community would be taking one of the biggest names out of the scene. this website is for entertainment and needs to stay that way. It is still targets fault for cheating in ALOT of demos and he should be extremely ashamed but i guess he can change. just keep extra watch over him in future. peace out

30/08/2006 21:55:00

HoHo^ u have no demos ? :P

30/08/2006 22:23:00

omg .. i realy like tarGet but ..he should get banned perm :s u just dont want to ban him cauz he is famous .. that isnt right dudz..

30/08/2006 22:27:00

i think the same thing kimo thinks..

30/08/2006 22:57:00

haha the most known when a progamer like heaton would cheat u cannot say that hes pro and u cannot ban him(nopt a perm ban like i said some posts before) :D

30/08/2006 23:08:00

once a hacker always a hacker :o ... But i still think youre one of the best jumpers in the world!!! try to get your records back :D (legit this time ;)) im sure you can do it even faster :P

FikoN
30/08/2006 23:26:00

Really, I disagree. Sure, target is a good jumper. But who gives a shit if he is when he's cheated in ____15____ of his demos? Summing up his cheat demos: 2 bhop script demos = 4 months ban time 6 demos with +jump;wait;-jump = permanent (4 demos with this type of cheat is enough to get permanently banned) 2 demos with speedhack = undecided ban time but let's say 2 weeks per demo to keep it simple. = 1 month ban time 5 demos with grav hack = undecided ban time but let's say 2 weeks per demo to keep it simple. = 2 months 2 weeks The summed up ban time from last year plus the one that he will recieve now is exactly 5 months and 5 days. He got a 4 month's ban time last time, but he was unbanned after 2 months and 5 days on christmas eve as a christmas gift. And not telling us that he was cheating in more demos is, in my very humble opinion, FUCKING RUDE. It's like spitting the XJ crew in the face when we're treating him nicely. So his total amount of ban time will be 5 months and 5 days. But according to the rules he should've gotten banned for, if not permanently, about 10 months. At least say fucking thanks -.- I tell you what I would've done in Target's situation: I would've quit kz. Sure, he's probably the best jumper out there, but to have some dignity left, I would quit kz forever. KTHX.

FikoN
30/08/2006 23:33:00

Sorry for the double post but I just saw this: [blockquote]Everybody deservs a second chance.[/blockquote] This was his second chance. Not banning him permanently now is giving him a third chance.

30/08/2006 23:36:00

nice FikoN ...

30/08/2006 23:44:00

"DX"

31/08/2006 00:13:00

<3 faker.

31/08/2006 00:27:00

target ftw

31/08/2006 00:30:00

a 1 yr ban should be reasonable

31/08/2006 00:53:00

FikoN: [quote=FikoN] This was his second chance. Not banning him permanently now is giving him a third chance.[/quote] Not at all, he only cheated 1 time (these demos are old demos from the 1. ban). He just lied to us about the amount of cheat demos, which really sucks, but he didn't cheat a second time.

31/08/2006 01:00:00

i dont care , i <3 him u_u tarGet 1# =)

31/08/2006 01:08:00

target is able to pWn fps-death :)

31/08/2006 01:21:00

i can only say this.... 1. He deserve this ban for cheating before and not telling about the other demos... 2. Its good that he stoped doing it after his first lecture... This event should learn players who cheats that if u wanna reach for the top. Just stop cheating and practise or you will get banned...

31/08/2006 01:40:00

in my own humble oppinion i feel really down knowing that he kept silent all this time, anyway im glad he wasnt permanently banned, he didnt cheat a second time he lied thats for sure is lying a permanently ban cause? (dont know im asking) anyhow <3 anyway target ;) im dissapointed but <3 u still, i believe he is not a better person or human being just because he lied, we all lie and he is just human.. show some humanity

31/08/2006 01:59:00

Its a shame target :( But you came out stronger and better than ever. The ban is justified and imo he shouldnt be banned permanent just because he ONLY CHEATED ONCE not twice. And get on msn target <3

31/08/2006 03:10:00

lol i dont get it..he used cheats in about 15 demos??? wtf is it u dont understand?? tell me why it isnt a perm ban..

31/08/2006 03:15:00

Tell me why you care? It's a game people. And don't tell me some of you have never used one single cheat in any game EVER.

31/08/2006 03:20:00

To add to my post, tarGet is a good person and a good friend to me. So what if he cheated in demos he made months and months ago? He's proven that he can do it without cheats, and some of you have bummed him when he's done it. But yes....IT'S A GAME. Blimey McLimey why are you all getting so worked up about it? He doesn't care about it so why should you all? Now he gets to focus on real life more and school work rather than sit on his ass doing demos to make your lives a little bit more enjoyable... But meh.

31/08/2006 03:26:00

who cares soul|ftw...i know hes a good person and hes my friend too. but its perm ban....thats it..

31/08/2006 05:51:00

poll! perm ban him..

31/08/2006 06:14:00

faker, first of all, he cheated in 15 different demos, how can you give him a 2nd chance after that? soul, Who cares if it was months ago. they were still world records right? :S Dont treat him better just cause hes one of the best. I dont want him banned but he deserves it. FAIR is FAIR.....10-4 out!

31/08/2006 06:18:00

"admins are always rigth" =D

31/08/2006 07:06:00

"last 20 demos were all clean and just amazing" who knows that the new demos r all clean faker!? maybe u'll find out in some month he's cheating again -.- oh ok let us give him a "fourth chance" sure, he's just awesome, it's incredible fun too watch his demos, but guys ... we're talkin about 15 demos ... 15!!! "It's like spitting the XJ crew in the face when we're treating him nicely." damn, i'll never ever do it again, but i f**kin agree to fikons whole statement.

31/08/2006 07:24:00

omg target -.- omg xj... -.- agree with #91 (kekse)

31/08/2006 08:50:00

omg chance for cheaters :E its funny...

31/08/2006 08:53:00

u should change ban rule like: if u send one (1) demo with any cheat.. it give's u 2month ban and and if u send again/many demo(s) with cheat that lead's to a permanent ban.. cos this gives wrong image to pll.. when pro player send's 15cheat demo's and only get's only 4month ban or something like that.. so they think "ohh i can try to hax fps-death and if i only send 1 demo i cant get banned"

31/08/2006 08:58:00

ok he made these demos before there was even a ban time table so the table doesnt really aply to these demos imo

31/08/2006 09:30:00

surprised....tarGet u must record more demos

31/08/2006 10:09:00

i lost respect for him

31/08/2006 11:10:00

Aura : why ? he dont cheat again , only he didnt say all the true =S .. u dont know he's history ? u_u

31/08/2006 11:24:00

faker said : " Not at all, he only cheated 1 time (these demos are old demos from the 1. ban). He just lied to us about the amount of cheat demos, which really sucks, but he didn't cheat a second time." In that case why doesn't he get a permanent ban for 15 demos?! oO a cheater become, be and will be a cheater...

31/08/2006 11:32:00

Alright he should have gotten a perm ban when he first got caught.. But seriously would you rather have a good jumper dissapear from the scene forever or have a litle bit of injustice here on xj?.... Why do you really care anyways? Its a game you play on the damn internet, which we all enjoy doing so why take that away from someone for 1 mistake ? And above hes a great guy. So just let it and respect the admins decisions.

31/08/2006 11:38:00

OMFG. target is still the best, i cannot believe this. it's like SK confessing to useing hacks to win cpl winter 05 (different but similar)

31/08/2006 11:55:00

i belive i remember from his first ban, that because the rule come after the cheats where detected he didnt get perm. or? (i donno) If thats the case, 7 more old demos done before the rule came.. Imo tarGet should not get perm now eigther, and im glad he didnt. <3 tarGet cant wait to December

31/08/2006 11:57:00

omg target :( why?

31/08/2006 13:03:00

tarGet will come back n pwnz us all

31/08/2006 13:21:00

banned & write

31/08/2006 13:35:00

omg! -.- word fikon there are enough other good jumpers.. we dont need any cheaters here .. you said he cheated only 1 time .. u realy know maybe u'll find more and more cheat demos of tarGet ... PERM BAN! (:

31/08/2006 13:43:00

@Malvin he pwnd fps-death more than one year ago and it wasn t really difficult that time. Compared to now fps-death was nothing when he sent in these demos. I could see the cheats in the demos with the latest fps-death at once. Perhaps u understand the news wrong. The cheats weren t undetectable, the demos just weren t checked again. I think we learned from this and will go through the whole demos again now.

31/08/2006 13:45:00

too bad :< still love u target <3 ps. love u thopa too <3<3<3 D:

FikoN
31/08/2006 14:14:00

fuzzerd, the last 7 demos were discovered after the time table was created. Why would they not apply to the rules? Starz, not 1 mistake. 15 mistakes. If he is a good person or not is irrelevant. Doesn't mean he's allowed to cheat more than other people because he's a nice guy.

31/08/2006 14:32:00

Well your right aswell, you can look this from diff sides.. And im not saying he can cheat more cause hes a nice guy..

31/08/2006 14:34:00

its a difficult situation because xtreme-jumps might just find themselves receiving more and more cheat demos and banning an 'unknown jumper' permanently for sending in 2 demos. in this situation, the 'unknown jumper' would have been COMPLETELY discriminated against and trust me the comments would create another huge argument. no-one would know who to trust, who to make decisions and in general its as though... THE BETTER YOU ARE AT JUMPING, THE LIGHTER YOU ARE PUNISHED.

31/08/2006 15:19:00

lol @ target :>

FikoN
31/08/2006 15:58:00

well said oli99. If an unknown jumper would submit 15 demos with cheats in them, he would definately get a permban.

31/08/2006 16:37:00

fikon refer to my other post. i explaied why famous ppl get treated better like 2 days ago. anyways why you all want him perm banned? hes an entertainer and makes some really entertaining demos. do you all want the best jumper ever gone forever and lower the level of all pros and demos? if hes gone then the number 1 after him wont be the real number one. i say because he didnt cheat in his late demos and they were impressing to say the least, who cares if he cheated 10 years ago? @glibba no there arent LOL, name one jumper thats close to being as good as target... kimo was but he quit, no active jumpers are even close to being as good as him. I SAY HE DOESNT GET BANNED AT ALL. why waste the damn time? he will be back sooner or later with 50 demos, i want to be entertained now so dont ban him at all, you are making everyone wait for amazing entertainment and for what? for NOTHING aka cheated demos 10 years ago who no1 cares about.

31/08/2006 16:50:00

a 3 month ban is a ok desicion for a lie imo. <3 jason :D

31/08/2006 17:02:00

i dont care if he lied, cheated in 50 demos, didnt cheat at all or whatever. so what if he lied, so now if you send in a demo you have to say you cheated or not? and if u said u didnt cheat everyone should believe u and put the demo up? no... the admin has to check it and see for himself if he cheated or not. how did you guys not see his cheats back then? thats pathetic... so its fps-death's fault imo. not targets. Of course he will lie... like every cheater does... what do u think all cheaters sends in their cheat demo and state they cheated or not? then he got absolutly no chance at all... target was no different from a typical cheater, but now he doesnt cheat at all and has changed. im sure all of you would lie too

31/08/2006 17:14:00

[i]Starz: "But seriously would you rather have a good jumper dissapear from the scene forever or have a litle bit of injustice here on xj?...."[/i] 1st of all.. tarGet said himself he was a NOOB when he used those hack's and WHEN he caught he stopped to use them and LEARNED to jump without hack's and became pro.. so that means like any noob can cheat and if they made them pro after 1year?(not sure how long time is it) they wont get banned or the bantime is small.. is it ok to you? if so let's start every 1 cheat demos and saying "i will be pro after a year, so dont ban me" OKI i know that the cheat rule wasen't there when he made those but is it like "what isn't denied u can do?" sry if typos

31/08/2006 17:22:00

u cant be sure that tarGet wont cheat someday. I dont know any "pro-level" cheater who hasen't used cheats after busted. If u count even smallest cheat's, hack's etc... cos as it allways goes.. someone invent a good anti cheat and sooner or later some one will hack it and does a cheat wich that prog can't detect.. and that will continue as long as human is coder..

31/08/2006 17:29:00

let's start every 1 cheat demos and saying "i will be pro after a year, so dont ban me" rules were different back then. why do you think he wasnt banned for 8 demos he cheated in? let's start every 1 cheat demos and saying "i will be pro after a year, so dont ban me" orly? you havent? well i have, and its target. "u cant be sure that tarGet wont cheat someday." im pretty sure. "and that will continue as long as human is coder.." back then fps death was a new thing, but now its at a pretty high lvl and can detect everything so theres no way you can cheat once again why do you care or want him banned perm? hes here for enternaiment, the better the demos the more entertainment you get, thats right... you, not the ppl on the street who dont give a shit... so would u rather watch shit demos or targets demos to get entertained? id rather watch targets,,, idk about u

31/08/2006 17:29:00

he still can submit his demos to the "jump" section in the forum in order to slake the thirst for entertainment of people like "hii"

31/08/2006 17:32:00

no real thirst of entertainment, im just pointing out common sense. but yes his demos are pretty fun beucase they are much better than other demos.

31/08/2006 17:42:00

haha oh dude...

31/08/2006 18:06:00

@hii zhadz,a0ke,ndr etc .. maybe 1 admin can make a vote or somthing like this ^^ ..would be pretty cool :D btw cheatz0r = perm ban (: no matter when they cheatet ;)

31/08/2006 18:09:00

:( ...

FikoN
31/08/2006 18:14:00

hii, 1 year ago, not 10. And what do we really know? He fooled FPS-death once, why not twice? He got caught with 7 demos both times, not 8. Seems to me like you're just a fan who has no idea what you're talking about. You're just looking for entertainment. Would you still enjoy the entertainment if it was faked entertainment?

31/08/2006 18:27:00

fikon im not a fan... just here for entertainment :).. thats different, i may hate target but it happens to be he makes best demos. and i already answered all those questions... "He got caught with 7 demos both times, not 8." last time was 8, now its 7... 7 + 8 =15 right? didnt you say 15 in your last post? now you say 14... "Would you still enjoy the entertainment if it was faked entertainment?" No. but as i said fps death was new back then, but now it detects everything, theres no way in hell to cheat and im sure 100% target didnt in his new amazing demos. id like him banned too but that just wouldnt make any sense! (refer to previous posts as to why)

31/08/2006 18:29:00

pffffffffff su!!!! he cheats, he lies, he should be perm ban!! end of this!

31/08/2006 18:30:00

"@glibba no there arent LOL, name one jumper thats close to being as good as target... kimo was but he quit, no active jumpers are even close to being as good as him." t3d, a0ke.

31/08/2006 18:33:00

word anny0 PERM BAN basta! :p

31/08/2006 18:35:00

t3d = inactive, a0ke... yeah i forgot about him sry, hes kinda close to being as good. well okay you named 1 person... ONE!! lol if you lose target thats 50% of currently active amazing jumpers.. thats huge. xj, xj demos and xj pro's will die without target, end of story.

31/08/2006 18:38:00

omg .. @hii niconen , faker , ndr , seak and there are much realy talentet ppl too how will be pro soon ;)

FikoN
31/08/2006 18:42:00

15 was a typ0. Meant 14. But really, you're right. Let's just trust your instict and assume target isnt cheating in any of his new demos. xj won't die without target. xj demos won't die without target. xj pro's (??????) won't die without target.

31/08/2006 18:42:00

T3d = active enough 254, valleyclimb.... Perfo pwns.... Himuraken.... donakos.... Enough names for now?

31/08/2006 18:49:00

"Admins are always right" (aomewhere in rules ;) ) I agree with admins decision to give him a second(third) chance. As I realized, tarGet had already been in ban for cheating. And these demos are from those ban. He must be punished for his lies, but not for the cheat-demos that he was already been pushed by. (english...oops)

31/08/2006 19:11:00

ok i hate to do this and no offense but @glibba niconen - amazing longjumper but what else? seak- probably better than target at extreme maps but on easy-average-hard maps no challenge the rest are not close sry @soul t3d- lets just say inactive enough perfo - laff, cant compare to target sry, his demos dont make me go wow when i watch them donakos - only reason hes in top 5 is because every1 went inactive (t3d,kimo etc)... plus target seomtimes manages to beat him at what hes best at (bhopping) himuraken - seak can own every demo of his demos but he doesnt for some reason conclusion : no.. not enough names sry and again im comparing to target... those jumpers are sure as hell good though @fikon xj demos will sure die, they will be at a lower lvl if target is gone sry but ask any other smart person, they will say target is better by far than others. so dont perm ban him :D target and a0ke are strongest at this present moment.

31/08/2006 19:46:00

blablabla

31/08/2006 20:17:00

says hii WHO the fucking noob u are? and try to understand what i writed and then come back her.. nob

31/08/2006 20:26:00

here* and ffs u are cheater too cos u attitude to cheating is "it's ok" ? and u say u cant cheat fps-death? [i]"someone invent a good anti cheat and [b]sooner or later[/b] some one will hack it"[/i] yes fps-death is now good.. but im 100% some one will do a hack that fps-death dont notice.. example: here in Finland we have a SSC wich mean "ScreenShotClient" dunno if u know it.. it is a tool wich caught cheaters about 2 month and after that there has been seasons when it caught cheaters and seasons when some1 made cheat that 100% woks with it so every thing is possible..

31/08/2006 20:31:00

HoHo^ is better than tarGet Proof: kz_man_bigezclimb done in 11:38 by HoHo^ kz_man_bigezclimb done in 11:56 by tarGet (with bhop hack) (L) Hoho^ :D

31/08/2006 20:33:00

HoHo^ pWnz cheater <3

31/08/2006 20:34:00

HoHo^* :o

31/08/2006 20:40:00

HoHo^ is t3h t3h t3h jogga pojkerna

31/08/2006 20:50:00

@ hii : Sorry guy if we are n00bs. I have just two things to say: STFU JERK Thanks.

31/08/2006 20:53:00

hii is t3h pro record holder :D and he can say who's the best and who's not :DD

31/08/2006 22:04:00

@hii: "Joined Wednesday 30 August 2006 - 21:26:15 ( 1 days ago ) " You have learned alot about kz, xj and all the jumpers in one day, nice job mate! [size=9]I wonder what you'r realnick is :>[/size]

31/08/2006 22:08:00

hahahah this is funny. higge ur mentally retarded but its ok ndR you're bad zhady pwned like 8 of your records in 2 days, that means its low quality trash btw higge how are you better than me? ur a nobody with 0 demos... LOL

31/08/2006 22:10:00

hii stfu pls!!

FikoN
31/08/2006 22:45:00

Ok, hii, since you obviously think it isn's ok when hiGGe is calling you a noob because he has got no world records, I'm gonna tell you that you're a noob. You're a noob. In fact, you're probably the biggest noob I've seen on this website. Is that better?

31/08/2006 22:56:00

hii target isnt "the best jumper ever" what about t3d and kimo and a0ke higge both t3d and a0ke used fps_max 40 before it was detectable. a0kes probably the only active jumper better then target right now but zhadys starting to get really good and might even surpass target someday.

31/08/2006 23:00:00

yay! thx fikon <3 :D, but fikon... you gotta agree that everything i said was the truth, and truth hurts, thats why everyone is so pissed @fuzzered when did i say target is the best jumper ever? t3d is inactive and i said that he and a0ke are currently the best of all active players.. not all time. but whether u think target or a0ke is better that depends on you... perosnally i pick target

FikoN
31/08/2006 23:06:00

No. Truth doesn't hurt in this case. Your opinions aren't the truth. What hurts in this case is nothing but your stupidity :p

01/09/2006 01:19:00

very sadly ... target should recive for his sh** what all cheaters deserve: - disrespect - If he´s best in the world , i will watch the second . His new demos are ?without? sh** , but -15times he tried to fool the whole xtreme-jumps-community, especially the admins. Fikon said: "I would've quit kz. Sure, he's probably the best jumper out there, but to have some dignity left, I would quit kz forever." At least he shouldn´t try to bother the community by beating all records , the "records" - section should be free from guy´s who did such massiv cheating . But since targed said: "i dont care what u think of me, i dont care if u gonna bitch me about it, if u do so, i'll just ignore u, no matter what u say.. " So I do the same , just ignore his stuff , no rofl , no lol...

01/09/2006 01:48:00

a0ke is alot faster than target, if he bhopped more he would be #1 ^^

01/09/2006 02:06:00

no offence to tarGet or anything but jesus...is that how he talks normally? :D but anyway back on topic @hii ur obviously COMPLETELY clueless since ur spouting out utter horsesh*t. go fill buckets u down syndromed little f*cking pr*ck faced w*nker. :sorry about that everyone i could not control myself: i dont know HOW ur classing how good someone is at jumping but a0ke is a speed demon, zhady is a pink bunny rabbit, t3d is a freakin grasshopper and seaK is just uhhh seaK? i dno but still, they're all improving by the day and releasing demos that never fail to entertain me. You're implying u watch their demos and fall asleep because their so sh*te compared to tarGet's demos and im sorry mate but **WAKE UP CALL** their not. now shut up and go back to hiding in your little hole that u came out of. or just die. either way im happy. toodles.

01/09/2006 02:26:00

@oli hahah enraged random. see all these newbs like oli are getting pissed cause they know im telling the truth. targets demos are better lol. plz slit your wrists now loser. bye

01/09/2006 02:39:00

:'( target :(

01/09/2006 02:45:00

Best demos ever are T3d on tropiclimb and proclimbing IMO

01/09/2006 03:17:00

across the road? or down the river? im raging because i know ur right? LOL sort urself out dear, what kinda classes did u go to at school? im an enraged random? do i give a shit if im a random? no i dont. i may be a random on kz but im no random at cs. but wait a minute... WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? and plus im on a winning team.

01/09/2006 03:36:00

Whos hii .. tbh hes either an old reg or a target fan.. Anyways cant we just let it rest cause we clearly are not getting to an end. Just let the xj admin decide this in peace and quiet. After all its up to them, do you honestly thinkg that if you whine enough they wont ba n target ? No.. And who cares if ppl are randoms or just noob, they ll fit in eventually.. (hope i will :P) Anyways take care target i know ull be working on alot of demo's during ur absence. @ xj admins you guys would be wise to lock this as its turning in to an unending discussing.

01/09/2006 03:36:00

im sure t3d and a0ke are amazing jumpers, imo i dont believe a0ke or t3d would be able to do demos as target... with all those sc's.. neighbourhood, cliffez, dunno nolve etc..

01/09/2006 04:44:00

fuzzerd: "higge both t3d and a0ke used fps_max 40 before it was detectable. " That's so not true.

01/09/2006 07:13:00

hii you need to shut up :)

01/09/2006 08:05:00

strange thing hii that u say every1 here noob but u cant even speak with ur real nick.. but i KNOW a lot more than u from this community.. if u aren some fagg0t who's fake nicking wich i think u are.. some facts: Member 22575: hii Member 385: hiGGe

01/09/2006 09:45:00

maybe I'm thinking of toffo but I thought you did too, sorry I might still be mixing it up somehow.

01/09/2006 13:26:00

toffo didnt use 40 fps :/

01/09/2006 15:03:00

hii is from canada or using a canadian proxy, still no clue who he could be :E

01/09/2006 15:05:00

silver i heard t0ff0 used bhop script back in the days ( when there were no banning sys) but i aint got no evidence. heard it from an xj admin if that makes it more beliveable :E

01/09/2006 15:12:00

quote faker ( or fikon cant remember) : t0ff0 is some hardcore scripter. I remember them saying they checked old demos and found something they wouldnt have liked to find

01/09/2006 15:26:00

hii = fagwire, oldings know who!

01/09/2006 15:37:00

Jagwire? He didn't die? xD

FikoN
01/09/2006 16:17:00

Yes, t0ffo used a bhop script using special commands in most of his demos. And it wasn't t0ffo who used low fps. It was silver. I don't remember what it was set to but it was at most 60. He used low fps in his 331 volcano demo for example.

01/09/2006 16:29:00

Silver you bad boy, you go mouthing off target when you were "cheating" urself in the old days ^^

01/09/2006 16:34:00

pfff, the only reason i used that in the demo was cause the record holder was using low fps :/

FikoN
01/09/2006 18:33:00

If I remember it right, there were no rules against low fps back when he submitted his demo. So, he wasn't really cheating :p

01/09/2006 18:50:00

what advantage does using low fps give? *confused*

01/09/2006 19:09:00

"target must be glad to have a fan as devoted as you hii brings to him you of the crescents and its slipper like the good doggie which you are " concerning this history, it does not look at me, admins XJ are only judges and must make the decision which they think of being best

01/09/2006 19:10:00

The lower fps the less speed you lose when you land, and it gets easy to bhop with space. FikoN you're right, i remember when silver had the 3:31 demo and some noobish w-strafer sent in a 20 fps demo 3:2x and it got accepted, when the whole community protested against it the admins on kzmaps said like: "There isn't any rule against it, sorry we didn't know that we don't accept lowfps demos" and it got removed and some days after that the 100 fps rule was made.

01/09/2006 19:30:00

Wasn't it eDark who submitted the low fps volcano demo?

01/09/2006 21:05:00

HAHA i hope not, i really don't remember and if it was him i just called him "noobish w-strafer" and if it is so im sorry.

01/09/2006 23:09:00

eDark submitted a low FPS demo at one point i'm pretty sure.. I remembre thinking wtf he submitted low fps demo and now's making a program to catch low fps? lol

02/09/2006 00:38:00

I agree with hii ... In my opinion he really says the truth!

02/09/2006 00:45:00

@a0ke, Taffat, gangien yes i submitted a 20fps demo on volcano when there wasn t really a rule about that. (have u ever made a demo with 20fps? i had a headache after that ^^) this demo was to show that every noob can be better on such a map if he uses lower fps and it was the first demo that got banned because of low fps. i think without that demo there wouldn t be a program like fps-death today.

02/09/2006 01:03:00

Yeah, no rule so we werent cheating !! :P and besides..Starz, are you comparing my low fps demo ( NO RULES ) with targets 15 CHEAT *DOWNLOADED* demos? :)

02/09/2006 01:19:00

lol edark try playing aqualand or man_climbers with my comp. I get as low as 10 fps and rarely get above 50 on aqualand.

02/09/2006 10:36:00

ok shit man .. u was ub0r dumb :)

02/09/2006 11:23:00

hm..)) He cheated in 5 demos? ok? now he should do 5 record demos with gravity about 805-810 ^.^

02/09/2006 14:39:00

word oddy :P

02/09/2006 16:50:00

I was just kidding silver :P

02/09/2006 18:51:00

im sorry, but you guys cant deny that what hii is saying is kinda true, i know im new at xtreme-jumps, but target demos got me going, i watched them and wanted to be just like him, and because of that im improving quite fast, a0ke is great too, but tarGet > a0ke i vote unban target, kz is all about fun, banning him = decreasing amount of fun

02/09/2006 18:53:00

tarGet is hoooooooot, and he has already been forgiven!

02/09/2006 19:38:00

It's one thing if you cheat just for kind of fun. I mean everybody (at least me) tried aimbot, speedhack and stuff one just to see how that works. But he actually sent in demos claiming world records. That's a shame. tarGet, maybe you were just too young, but your statement is very dislikable: > but.. i'll say the same thing as the 1st time i got banned: > i dont care what u think of me, i dont care if u gonna bitch me about it, > if u do so, i'll just ignore u, no matter what u say.. > if u think ur better then me now, just proof it with sum demo's :) I think I'm better than you. You know why? Because I never cheated claiming I didn't. You were a damn cheater and I believe you are a kind of idol for the comunity. So all I would expect is at least a normal apology in full sentences. At least if you are not already foobar.

02/09/2006 19:41:00

I have no time to read all posts but.. I know he is very talented jumper, so why didn't he confess those demos back then or re-record clean ones till now. He said he is better w/o cheats..

02/09/2006 21:48:00

acidburn : I think I'm better than you. You know why? Because I never cheated claiming @i dont know why u say that , first.. that its not true .. AND -if u think ur better then me now, just proof it with sum demo's :) aaapo:because sometimes its hard say the true .. =/ if u are in he's position u can say "i cheat in this this this and this demo , please remove" when u are the actually best kz player active in the world ? =/ its hard im sure about that

03/09/2006 13:05:00

You know what? Learn English and than read what I wrote again.

03/09/2006 20:01:00

oops u_u .. srry xDDDDDD

03/09/2006 21:06:00

yes he should had tell the truth.. what give's him some special rules if he is a idol? [i]i know he is very talented jumper, so why didn't he confess those demos back then or re-record clean ones till now. He said he is better w/o cheats..[/i] I Agree with aaapo.. he had 6month time to jump those again but he didn't. Maybe that why he's still using cheat's or he is too noob w/o them..

05/09/2006 16:25:00

again:S... aehea --- tarGet is the master anywayz..

05/09/2006 19:00:00

hohohoahah tarGet cheator mhhh.. target is pwnage for me i like target strafe ;D~ tarGet make new records on this demos.

04/10/2006 11:16:00

cooL o.O

14/11/2006 03:14:00

hii said : "target was no different from a typical cheater" Everything else is bullshit. so... cheat = ban that's what the rules say, and no matter if he made some "funny" demos, he's just a fuc**** cheater... so I'll be happy if people like him dies

23/11/2006 16:31:00

bullshit movie

24/11/2006 00:40:00

It's a great movie! I enjoyed it.

02/01/2007 18:52:00

really nice movie, but very short. i still waiting for number #2.

13/02/2007 17:24:00

Miss tarGet so much~~~~~~~~~~~~~!

05/04/2007 03:34:00

tarGet <3 only t3d is better :P

10/07/2007 21:00:00

How i can download the Soundtrack ? :)

10/07/2007 21:01:00

ohh .. sry where i can download the soundtrack ? .. of course ;)

08/08/2007 21:51:00

:D LoL Maps :}

12/08/2007 23:11:00

:Dgg

16/08/2008 15:31:00

it should be good movie.

05/05/2009 22:00:00

LOL

04/02/2011 14:51:00

This is probably one of the best movies ever released!

04/03/2011 08:49:00

Great! :first: