And the winner of the Mapping Contest is...

By faker mapper·
... Draw!

Congratulations :)

Full ranking:

#1 Draw 8/10
#2 inSaNe 7,77/10
#3 dEMolite 7,33/10
#4 Maniac 6,55/10
#5 rad0n 6,375/10
#6 h1m1 4,22/10
#7 thopa disq.

*Update2: thopa got disqualified because he decompiled a de_ map without telling it to XJ and using some foreign signs to minimize his own work. This isn't tolerated, of course.
The new winner is the old "2nd Place" Draw! Congratulations! :)

*Update3: Finally it happend, kz_longjumps is released!

You can get it in the Download Section of course! [registered members only].

Please use kz_longjumps for your future Longjump/Bhop LJ/Highjump records (and for the LJ Record Sticky), XJ won't support any custom LJ maps like kzfr_longjump or kzno_longjump anylonger!

have fun :)

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fischauge
17/09/2006 20:29:00

gj :)

kewl mapper
17/09/2006 20:29:00

gj ² :)

AverageFreak
17/09/2006 20:29:00

omg nice thopa! [color=green][size=28]GJ!!![/size][/color]

Mr. p!nk
17/09/2006 20:30:00

gh thopa :) plz faker hurry up xD ;)

Hanniball
17/09/2006 20:30:00

nice :)

HoHo^
17/09/2006 20:30:00

OMG you guys!! thats sweet

maniac
17/09/2006 20:30:00

gj all

Jim Beam
17/09/2006 20:30:00

gooooood job

donak0s !
17/09/2006 20:31:00

gj thopa :D

Tarantu1a
17/09/2006 20:31:00

[u][b]G00d j0b [/b][/u]

theL0w^
17/09/2006 20:31:00

[size=11]GJ[/size]

tracey blast mapper
17/09/2006 20:31:00

Gj

crack
17/09/2006 20:31:00

gz thopa

NiconeN
17/09/2006 20:33:00

thopaaaa <3 :) u really deserved the win, gratz mate !

soul v2.0 mapper
17/09/2006 20:34:00

Thopa you are Swedish and for that I have this to say to you: DDDDD:::D::: D:AS:AD:A:S:AD:AS:AD:SDSDSDASD:D:D:D: D:AD:A:DS:D:ASD:ASD:AD:A: AD:A:SA:D:AS:D:D:A D:ADA:D:DS:D:SD:AD:D: GJ you legend!! May the wind of silence guide you to making more pwning maps! <3 NiconeN <3 Thopa more :D

iv4n
17/09/2006 20:34:00

my tip won :) GJ thopa

tracey blast mapper
17/09/2006 20:35:00

but demolite has nice map 2 :/

knoxville
17/09/2006 20:36:00

nice! w0000000t

ScooteR
17/09/2006 20:36:00

nice thopa <3

ndR Tournament #2
17/09/2006 20:37:00

GJ GJ :D huhu I've t3h map! guys don't cry :p

flobo
17/09/2006 20:39:00

gj ThOPa

AverageFreak
17/09/2006 20:40:00

yeah,finally i can go to bed GJ again thopa you are thA mAn! :D

ichirou
17/09/2006 20:49:00

Yay! Gj mappers. And gj thopa! I was hoping you would win :)

spolix
17/09/2006 20:50:00

gj mappers :]

hiGGe
17/09/2006 20:50:00

Thopa <3.. i knew it couple weeks a go when i played it that u will win :p so GJ.. some day we have to go again jump :p

s0liD mapper
17/09/2006 20:53:00

Gj thopa .. never would have guess u will win this :]

PrEn1uMz
17/09/2006 20:57:00

good job @all esp thopa for #1

h1m1 mapper
17/09/2006 20:59:00

ndR dunno about the rest of the guys but i wont cry :p i said i will be teh last in this contest and it happens :p GJ thopa ! damn man ur map is looking so cool xD

madturtle
17/09/2006 21:02:00

Gj thopa ...:)

DHT- Tournament #1
17/09/2006 21:11:00

(L) Thopa [#kz.se] :P

remo
17/09/2006 21:40:00

gj thopa respect

insen mapper
17/09/2006 21:44:00

omg that map sucks -.- and on that map u have to make lj recs omg omg omg -_________- dont see the reason y this map won :/ the other maps are much better

Sprite mapper
17/09/2006 21:45:00

i agree with insen : S

lphoenixl
17/09/2006 21:46:00

looks rly nice but hows the fps in it? Seems like a map w/ low fps. We'll see.

Chrizzy mapper
17/09/2006 21:50:00

I gotta say i agree a little with insen.. although i havent tried it but judging from the screens some of the maps looked a little better to have all the longjumps on etc.. sorry, no offense.

Malvin mapper
17/09/2006 21:51:00

totally agree with Chrizzy!

inSaaaNe
17/09/2006 21:52:00

O M G he stole my textures in the big hall and didn't ask me (the longjumps textures are made by me) and the highjumps textures of the jumpblocks are stolen of kz_cg_extreme too (the textures in the lj room) and in my opinion the jumprooms look ugly too, the textures doesn't fit together

soul v2.0 mapper
17/09/2006 21:54:00

Awww.... Just because you didn't win :(

flobo
17/09/2006 21:55:00

i just wanna play the map then we see

radon mapper Tournament #3
17/09/2006 21:57:00

gj all the mappers that didnt win, the maps are uber nice :D

dEMolite mapper
17/09/2006 22:03:00

sure there was nice :) but anyway gj thopa :D

inSaaaNe
17/09/2006 22:08:00

@ soul nope but i am angry cuz he stole my textures he are screens of it! [link=http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=stolentextures.jpg ]screen[/link]

insen mapper
17/09/2006 22:08:00

chrizzy i played all maps and i can say that this isnt the best map imo dunno the criterions of the admins .... and radons map on 6th palce man its much better i thought it could be #1 :/

inSaaaNe
17/09/2006 22:09:00

http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=stolentextures.jpg sry the other link doesn't work

soul v2.0 mapper
17/09/2006 22:24:00

rad0n's map has a highjump bug where if you left-strafe 221, 231, 241 etc, you hit the ceiling. Also the map isn't very creative (sorry rad0n :(). inSaNe, even with permission, you stole invert's in_extreme, a map he apparently took 3 months to think out and make, and didn't even get onto custom. Then you and InseN came along, changed the textures, fixed fps, and made the map slightly easier, and got it kz'd. Mappers take things from other mappers all the time. It's just what happens and you'll have to learn to deal with it I'm afraid :/

inSaaaNe
17/09/2006 22:29:00

but we asked him before if could make that map! he never asked for my textures i think you don't undestand how i feel atm :\

soul v2.0 mapper
17/09/2006 22:34:00

If you had won the contest, and thopa hadn't, would you have still complained?

insen mapper
17/09/2006 22:42:00

an unknown release of the assessments would be cool coz we have to live with the decision of some peeps which cant give us the criterions of the map and so on y is this so and the other thing like that n stuff

Proche
17/09/2006 23:13:00

hm... i wanna first see the maps, then ill judge, but gj thopa

Murvelman
17/09/2006 23:20:00

thopa was my favorite from the beginning,but i don't understand how draw placed so high. Of course i haven't played the maps but...

Maxohhz
17/09/2006 23:20:00

gj thopa :D

Reno
18/09/2006 00:35:00

gj thopa ;)

fuzzerd
18/09/2006 04:51:00

wheres the map?

groove
18/09/2006 06:16:00

gratz thopa

s0liD mapper
18/09/2006 07:15:00

and wtf is this ? the map isnt ready ? .. oh man .. dont understand

omilo
18/09/2006 08:10:00

Gj mappers, 2 #kz.se @ top :D. I thought Draw would win but then again i never tested thopas map :P. Off to school then..later!

medu-
18/09/2006 11:34:00

Looks good, but too hard for me I think.

Draw mapper
18/09/2006 11:48:00

imo the map should be finish @ deadline = no changes after that, but that is admins decision...... :/

Malvin mapper
18/09/2006 12:46:00

omg :O , insanes map is sooooooooo nice!! cant believe it :(

Thedy
18/09/2006 13:41:00

nice longjump minimap thopa

faker mapper
18/09/2006 13:47:00

Draw: The map was finished and free of bugs and the votes based on that version, but we had some extra ideas which will make the map even better. So 1 day waiting will give a better map for us all, so it's not a that big problem imo

pHs^
18/09/2006 15:45:00

very nice thopa

iv4n
18/09/2006 16:06:00

but the other LJ maps which didnt win... where can we find/dwnld them?

raYLa
18/09/2006 16:06:00

Damn, it is not right to use inSaNes textures without any demand or permission... (very)³ unfair btw inSaNe, I am going to use your map on our internet server and for my own records because that one is just toooooo nice <3

inSaaaNe
18/09/2006 16:46:00

thx raYLa and some others for ur nice feedback <3 i still can't believe that thopas map won dEMolites, Draws and rad0ns map ftw don't think that i'm participating on a mapping contest @ XJ again cuz imo the other maps are much better than the winning map and that sucks -.-

soul v2.0 mapper
18/09/2006 16:53:00

Thopa's only been mapping for about 2 months, so of course he's going to want textures because he wants to make maps that people enjoy. rad0n told me that you didn't even make those textures inSaNe. He has those textures too.... But meh. Admins are always right, so of course, you'll have to live with the decision :)

maniac
18/09/2006 16:55:00

If inSaNe don't agree that thopa uses his textures, thopa is not allowed to publish his map. Have you ever heard about copyright? If you de-compile textures of other mappers is the first rule to ask them if u r allowed to use their textures.

inSaaaNe
18/09/2006 17:15:00

soul i think thopa can do a statement about that on his own but i think he is never gonnna do it.. maybe he could still have asked me or say "sorry about that" but i don't think it is happenning...

faker mapper
18/09/2006 18:10:00

inSaaaNe: plz stop whining like a little kid. 1. thopas map isn't the best looking map fo sure, but the idea is very creative and the jumps are uber (!) nice, and thats why it won (you can't see it on the screenshots of course but you will feel it soon)! 10-12 admins, which are experienced players, voted for all maps - there is nothing like "corruption" if you want to indicate that. 2. You didn't create the textures on your own for 100%, rad0n has the pretty same textures on his hammer, and he didn't steal or decomplie it. You just grabbed it on some public or private (dunno) place where he grabbed them too (coincidence) and made some slight changes maybe. 3. I can understand you complains about the stolen unit signs, that would have pissed me off, too. He should had asked at least... 4. Taking over some textures isn't a SUCH big deal and was pretty common in the "goold old days". 5. It would be sad if you won't participate in the contest cause I like your maps and I know that you are a good mapper, but to loose despite you had give your best and created something very nice, too, is a good experience for life (even though you can't understand it now). But do me one favour: Don't say that it is our fault (that we voted for the map we enjoyed the most) or stuff like that, cause thats just "arrogant" and immature imo. I/we spent a lot of time to create this contest and to get a nice official longjump map and that fucking flaming (no matter which map would have one... somebody would have started flaming anyway) just destroys the whole thing. You say maybe you won't participate in the next contest? Maybe there is no next contest.... Cause it isn't fun to work a lot of hours and to get big flaming as reponse. Think about that... Peace out

insen mapper
18/09/2006 18:25:00

the jumps are ubernice :D the jumps are all the same on each map 250 untis are 250 units :D and not 248 or so either u can longjump or not :D

eiRa mapper
18/09/2006 18:25:00

thopa also copied or just decompiled de_museum and took it's textures .... which isn't very cool too imo...

faker mapper
18/09/2006 18:28:00

InseN: no, its not, 250 on kz_alpin for example is harder than 250 on kzfr. Ask T3dBundy, seaK or Count (who did 250 on all existing kz maps :D), they will certify it.

insen mapper
18/09/2006 18:52:00

ye coz the jumps are really small but on that maps all blocks are really large and i never saw a ppl who makes such a big prestrafe theres only one important thing @ prestrafing but i wont tell it here :D and that u also can do on small blocks but u are right its really hard on small blocks :D

NiconeN
18/09/2006 19:00:00

"don't think that i'm participating on a mapping contest @ XJ again cuz imo the other maps are much better than the winning map and that sucks -.-" Dude, thats damn pathetic, most of the people voted for thopa's map, u can't always get what u want. I understand you in some way, but if you had won, I'm 90% sure that you wouldn't have said anything about that thopa stole your textures, you are just damn pissed off cuz you made a map (which I like much, too) and you didn't win.

kuttaja
18/09/2006 19:29:00

I liked insane's map :\

johnnyboy
18/09/2006 19:31:00

The maps i've played so far are really awesome, I especially like the secret room in inSaNe's map :D

Draw mapper
18/09/2006 19:32:00

eiRa | 18 Sep : 18:25 "thopa also copied or just decompiled de_museum and took it's textures .... which isn't very cool too imo..." http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demuseum0000yk9.jpg

insen mapper
18/09/2006 19:42:00

LOL hardly cheeky

r0fl
18/09/2006 19:51:00

rofl draw... i knew i saw that room from somewhere (just couldnt remember exactly which map... i played museum like 2 years ago) so is thopas map just one big rip?...

inSaaaNe
18/09/2006 19:53:00

loool -____- @ Draw @ faker i never wanted a redecision or so it was just my opinion about his map, i accepted the admins decision i just wanted a fuckin statement of thopa about the textures cuz it pissed me off and i never said i created the textures on the lj blocks, i just said that i created the lj units and i know many textures get copied but in some textures you have to ask the mapper imo (for example custom timer textures or so) but anyway, after i saw the sreen of draw i'm not gonna say any word anymore about this map greetz

raYLa
18/09/2006 19:56:00

Wow, I am pretty speechless. *irony: 1* GJ THOPA *irony: 0*

s0liD mapper
18/09/2006 19:58:00

wooooot xD hehe awesome draw :D

ScooteR
18/09/2006 20:18:00

omfg almost about everything for this map is stolen ..

acidburn
18/09/2006 20:42:00

Ok than the name is quite clear: kz_de_museum_longjump :D If he asked the other mapper, I think there is just one problem with this: some of us feel a bit fooled.

Jurpo
18/09/2006 20:47:00

HAHA gj draw :P

flobo
18/09/2006 20:49:00

gj draw ^^ lol

maniac
18/09/2006 20:50:00

nice... gj eiRa. i knew that i saw this room before ^^

r0fl
18/09/2006 20:50:00

draw wins lol

NiconeN
18/09/2006 20:52:00

...

iv4n
18/09/2006 20:52:00

1) what isnt forbidden is allowed 2) release the map asap 3) i'd close this mess right now...

tracey blast mapper
18/09/2006 20:54:00

rofl gj draw

insen mapper
18/09/2006 20:55:00

gj draw hope ull fix the "lowfps" at some places

h1m1 mapper
18/09/2006 20:56:00

yay i'm not teh last xDDD gj Draw , lol thopa i didn't expect this kinda thing from you :/ very sad :|

kewl mapper
18/09/2006 20:56:00

congratz draw :) xD

Defari
18/09/2006 20:57:00

When i saw this map (thopa), the first thing i said was hmmmz that looks like de_museum.. But it actually shocked me that he copied the whole room O_O Im srry for thopa but Draw is the true winner here. Congrats to Draw!

s0liD mapper
18/09/2006 21:06:00

lol Gj djaaaaw :p

ScooteR
18/09/2006 21:07:00

ye ye draw ftw :D

ZYPER Tournament #2
18/09/2006 21:10:00

gj draw :P

SooouuuL
18/09/2006 21:43:00

Is it possible to get thopa's map ?

delete_pls
18/09/2006 21:51:00

nothing to say except : lol :E

waRi mapper
18/09/2006 21:54:00

what a big mess ://///

thopa
18/09/2006 23:13:00

Hi, i read this selfmade mess some hours ago, but didnt have time to write a comment cause i was at work. Most parts of the texturing are taken directly from de_museum, which i thought all CS players knew about since its one of the top10 most downoaded map ever. Therefore i didnt tell ppl about it, cause its very obvious. Atleast thats what i though. Sentence from the creator of the map and the textures: "Museum Textures to be Released: Call me crazy, but I plan to give away the textures used to create DE_MUSEUM. Check back here for their release in the next few weeks...and think of it as my way of giving back." written 2002. As for insen and insane that felt they were heavily affected by the stealing of their textures. I truly appologize to you, i really do. The reason i used textures from you is that i found them very nice and very good for longjumps. Of course i could make similar ones, but the lazy man in me works just like anyone else. The unit texturing is now removed. But the ones in the high lj room is still there, and i plan on letting it be that way to. Even if i stumble across a map done by a good mapmaker i cannot be sure if its really he/she that made the textures. Of course i could ask, but this time i didnt, and im also not familiar to the mapmaking rules - as you've whitnessed. Now its the opposite. I cant count all maps ive played. But very often ive stumbled across maps which has the same texturing as another, without any dedications. Making textures isnt really my kind of hobby, nor is mapmaking. But some months ago i wanted to try this, and it turned out to be a lj map which ive created on my own, measuring units and copying stuff i think is beautiful and cant be done better. If u count units in the main room youll see that the distances mostly are not at all the same. I wont defend the way i used de_museum and im not planning on hiding it, since the world knows about whats already obvious. The map turned out really good anyway. And ive both won and lost... The mainhall isnt a lj room. Its just a _main hall_ which can easily be deleted. But i wont do that either, i really dont see why. Moral opinions doesnt affect me concerning questions about this since its just a small map of a big game. Win or loose. This project started way before this lj competition (names can stregnth that) and i just joined because i was mostly done with "my" map. Ppl dont even have to play it if they dont want to. Admins doesnt have to let me win/loose if they dont like it. Anyway, i appologize about this mess, but i still think the map is great. Ppl can play the map if they want to. [b]My name is totally erased from the map[/b], so its now a noname map. Which i doesnt bother me since i want ppl to play what they think is good and fun. Its all about the individual. At the same time i removed my name i wrote down dedications to the original mapmaker and named it more appropriate. The kz tags are all removed. Again I appologize all affected and i congratulate draw to his win. :P:P

r0fl
18/09/2006 23:36:00

"ppl can play the map if they want to" wheres the link? :D

maniac
18/09/2006 23:38:00

Informative text thopa... now you know some of the most important rules. It's a pity that you got disqualified, but thats fair because you have stolen the main room of de_museum. I wanna test the map anyway... gl in the future! maniac

Volsfootball
18/09/2006 23:42:00

gj draw, and gj everyone else. tsk tsk tsk thopa. . .tsk tsk tsk

Proche
18/09/2006 23:43:00

there is only one problem with draw's map.... i dont like the teleport thing when you miss a jump, i like to fall and try it from the other side, imo that should be removed... well... thats it, other than that gj, nice map

Proche
18/09/2006 23:47:00

can we submit demos already?

maniac
18/09/2006 23:49:00

no we can't! thats not the final version of draws map i think.

faker mapper
18/09/2006 23:55:00

Proche: 1. Draw removed them and changed some other things! 2. How do you want to submit demos without having the maps? dEMolite's pack isn't official. The map changed a lot... it's not the "kzse_longjump" of the package...

dEMolite mapper
19/09/2006 00:38:00

i removed the link cause faker told me that i'll release a new ones later when draw updated his map i hope that thopa send his map too.

MaanneT!
19/09/2006 01:41:00

gooodJoooB Draaw! :))

VanillaTwist
19/09/2006 02:10:00

Ahh oh well Thopa. Better luck next time. I still want to play your map though.

Orblah
19/09/2006 03:43:00

so were do we aussies download the maps from ?? i cant read any other languages

Sleijeri
19/09/2006 09:20:00

I want Thopas map back!! I have played CS since -99 december and i can't remember better CS map than de_museum. Only for good old times, bring the Thopa's map back.

Jim Beam
19/09/2006 09:47:00

yeah...that's hard :(

Aura
19/09/2006 10:39:00

:( InSanes map looked insane i wanted 2 have that as the lj map. But meh, i really dont mind. GG draw

elITe^
19/09/2006 12:04:00

Draw should've won in first place, but thopa's map wasn't bad at all (only copied stuff etc) and i had a feeling that Draw would win one way or the other ;p For me he was #1 qll the time =o <3 gombiz btw, @ work ;(

ellak
19/09/2006 12:07:00

Hahaha disqualified because he didn't do the textures himself. OMG like no one of all 300+ maps has a copied texture. Really bad call by the admins imo. His map was the best and won, what more do you need?

waRi mapper
19/09/2006 12:37:00

thopa thats sad for u man ... wtf ... : / Using other peoples textures is not bad imo... all custom mappers do that... When you release a map or a mod you give away all the materials at the same time anyway... if its sounds 3d or textures. Ask the author next time... it is the right way to do it. Anyway my favorite map was Demolite's... he seriously owned everybody imo ... so. Congrats to Draw...

faker mapper
19/09/2006 12:53:00

ellak: learn to read, thx. the textures were not the reason.

flobo
19/09/2006 13:01:00

i wanna play thopas map ^^

waRi mapper
19/09/2006 13:11:00

yes the "textures" is not a good ennough reason ... decompiling someone elses map to rob architecture truly sucks. anyway ...

dEMolite mapper
19/09/2006 13:27:00

thx waRi my head is now red for feeling better :D

acidburn
19/09/2006 13:30:00

If you use the work of somebody else, you don't have to ask the author/copyrigh-holer as long as you don't take money for what you created. But of course it is nice to give credits and you can't claim that it was made by you.

cr4sh
19/09/2006 16:50:00

Do you remember some Maps with logos of big companies in? Some of them must have been deleted from downloadservers because the companies did not want to have their logos in an egoshooter. The Copyright is on the author/companies side and only they are entiled to give somone the right to use them. For sure it is hard to manage it in the internet, but if the author sees someone breach the copyright he is allowed to restrict them to use his work.

madturtle
19/09/2006 23:20:00

Congratz 2 Draw :)

Tibbles
20/09/2006 00:33:00

I'm guessing random people are playing these maps.... where did you guys dl the maps from? been waiting on a map pack for like 2 days now

dEMolite mapper
20/09/2006 05:56:00

link is removed of some changes like that draw has won now and so on.

DHT- Tournament #1
20/09/2006 10:45:00

Tibbles: Cuz we know Thopa -.- He gave us the map

macman90
20/09/2006 13:34:00

i want to play all the maps :) ...

flobo
20/09/2006 14:19:00

i have the maps ^^ all without thopas :P

faker mapper
20/09/2006 14:37:00

nobody has the final version of kz_longjumps. A lot of things have changed since "kzse_longjump". We hope to release it today.

Scary Tournament #2
20/09/2006 16:42:00

I still think radon will win

AverageFreak
20/09/2006 16:49:00

no he wont,the competition is over :E

fuzzerd
20/09/2006 22:43:00

radons map was bad getting 60 fps in a longjump map sucks no matter how bad your comp is.

fuzzerd
20/09/2006 23:31:00

I demand a recount this map sucks. I can't even do 240 on this gay map

VanillaTwist
20/09/2006 23:43:00

wait soo..T3d has to re-make 254? damn that must suck.

Volsfootball
21/09/2006 00:22:00

Eh. . .i think this map looks cool . . . i just can't make ljs anymore on this map :/

HoHo^
21/09/2006 05:55:00

Can't do 245units on the map :( WierdiscH

Xeltic Tournament #1
21/09/2006 11:22:00

the longjumps suck! i tryed like 245 for ages then i did 248 1 try. now i cant do 230 :S WTF? :S

kuttaja
21/09/2006 12:59:00

I do much better on kzfr_longjump than in draw's map :/

Scary Tournament #2
21/09/2006 14:37:00

People can't do ordinary jumps on this map? Then I would prefer that you made Kz_longjumps Kz_Bhoplongjumps Kz_Highjumps That would in my oppinion be smarter, and that would be 100fps certaincy

DHT- Tournament #1
21/09/2006 16:30:00

imo this map wasnt so good, im just honest.. :/ Thopa's map was better, inSane's 2...

faker mapper
21/09/2006 17:24:00

Yes, thopa's map was better, but we cant accept ripped maps :( Somehow I like the kzfr longjumps more than the kz_longjumps longjumps, too, but we just have to get used to it. (as we did on kzfr) Mapping Contest is Mapping Contest and votes are votes ^^

Tafatt
21/09/2006 20:08:00

I think the new map is good. My computer is old but I still have 100fps on it. :)

DHT- Tournament #1
21/09/2006 20:22:00

Ye, I understand faker, but I just said my opinion..

delete_pls
21/09/2006 23:18:00

kzfr_longjumps will always be #1 for me :p <3 muska!! btw we just have to get used of this new lj map..

PrEn1uMz
23/09/2006 21:27:00

thopa's map was really nice, sure he decompiled a map but he made a lot of work on it, for sure thopa's map is the best, and Dr4w's one is not really good imo but the admin decided !