Big changes in the KZ World

By faker mapper·
Hi guys,

there is another bad news today, sorry for that :(

Moxx and some of the XJ admins (soul|ftw and stukad) have decided to leave #Xtreme-Jumps because of some internal problems and start over again with kzmaps! ernstaugust will help them to create their webiste but he also will remain a part of XJ (as honorary member) and continue his work on #Xtreme-Jumps v2 (a complete new layout and theme which was planned to be a suprise and will be released soon).

We are not going to give up and continue our work as usual.

Of course we've realized that the atmosphere on XJ was going down lately and I have to apologize for being pretty harsh and strict to all these people which asked "newbie questions" which have been asked for 1000th times (what was one of the points of criticism Moxx had against XJ).

After we've got some suggestions by our users (scary, elIte or ndR for example) I've worked out a plan to improve all these things on XJ and get back the old and peacfull XJ we had some months ago.
Unfortunately Moxx and his friends decided to leave and dont share this attempt.

However, here are our new ideas/changes for you:

- New Forums have been added (called Help Zone) where you can ask every question you want to ask and where we are trying to help you as soon as possible. This will be the main place for questions and help; solved problems will be made Sticky.
- XJ will be pick up 2-3 new admins within the next days (an extra application form will be online soon) to get help out of the community.
- There will be newsposts about the Community and "Scene News" (if a famous jumper decides to retire for example) in the future.
- The Rule about fagsmiley will get removed. You can express yourself in the way you want to do. (Note: Spamming will be punished of course).
- The FAQs and the Rules will get updated so it's easier for you to read/understand them.
- We are thinking about a new IRC Channel policy (+v for important people like top5 jumper or mapper) which will be announced on an extra news, too.

Moxx is planning to take the further mapreleases to kzmaps, but the next Maprelease will be done by XJ (all the maps that have been submitted so far) and we are waiting for a Statement by Kreedz before we stop checking Maps for kz_ Tag.
Maybe there will be another decision though, like working hand in hand with kzmaps to get the best result for you guys out there, but we don't know yet and this will be discussed later so only time can tell what happens in the end...

Anyway, we hope that you are going to support us, because we support you!

To read the Statements by Moxx and XJ check the extended news:

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15/09/2006 00:16:00

n1 Movie :DD Download!!! ^^ <3 MoeJoe for that

15/09/2006 00:21:00

jop geiles movie und ein gruß an fikon :D yes nice movie and a greeting to fikon

15/09/2006 01:05:00

530mb? I'll give this a miss. :(

15/09/2006 01:28:00

omfg this movie FUCKING OWNED !!!! <3

15/09/2006 01:42:00

soul take a look in it. good movie and many extras :D and not the ulgy x256 codec

15/09/2006 02:03:00

Very nice movie!!! 10/10 :D

15/09/2006 03:18:00

Cool movie. But the size of that is way too huge :P

15/09/2006 09:35:00

NICE, downloading now @ 850kb/sec constant :)

15/09/2006 12:27:00

downloading teh pwnage movie :)

15/09/2006 12:36:00

omg!!!! best quality ive ever seen :o good job this has probably set a new record in movie making :p, ps. what is the song prodigy - voodoo people i have this song already but the one in the vid sounds like a remix

15/09/2006 12:47:00

Thats right Read, The Prodigy - Voodoo People (Pendulum Remix) Thats the whole name of the song.

15/09/2006 13:00:00

ty very much:)

15/09/2006 13:01:00

nice dude :D

15/09/2006 14:23:00

u think moejoe will mind if i use that song in my next vid:p its prozor

15/09/2006 14:30:00

would be a bit lame..

15/09/2006 14:33:00

u think so? ok i wont use it

15/09/2006 16:59:00

downloading now but it comes inly with 100KB/s WTF?

15/09/2006 17:37:00

think urself lucky i get 80 max:(

15/09/2006 21:12:00

245Kbt/s 10 Points!!!

16/09/2006 00:40:00

600+ kps :D cant wait to see it, but i think i can alreay say: WOWOWOW ownage-movie!!!! omg 1337!

16/09/2006 20:25:00

Damn Straight its good.. Simply teh best :D 10/10 :D

17/09/2006 16:16:00

good jump

18/09/2006 02:40:00

dl :)

18/09/2006 07:27:00

GJ alL > Spec GJ 4 [b]MoeJoe[/b], 4 th!s !ncr3d!bl3 bhopS :).

18/09/2006 22:20:00

Very nice Movie ^^ i love it (Für die deutschen = For the germans)

19/09/2006 18:23:00

2 mb/s

19/09/2006 19:30:00

nice :D

22/09/2006 12:34:00

the whole movie is about that imposs jump with 3 edgebugs, imo. dun like music \\ Imo, X-J2 are muuuch better

30/09/2006 08:27:00

yeah good movie :) jumps : 10/10 soundtracks : 7/10 over all : 10/10

reinis6
05/10/2006 15:08:00

Movie i would say 10/10 The best !!! faker nr1 :)

05/10/2006 15:47:00

994 /kbs

05/10/2006 23:31:00

Great edition!!!! All the effects are GREAT... I just spected more from a 530Mb movie... but it's good anyway ;)

05/10/2006 23:32:00

... And I don't like all that Slow-Motion...

06/10/2006 08:28:00

the movie is so nice gj man

10/10/2006 10:23:00

indeed jimmy.. too much slow motion :P nizzle 257 bhop faker :D but awesome movie :) gj

12/10/2006 12:53:00

doesn't work right ["Die Datei ist fehlerhaft" (The File is broken) ]. :(

15/10/2006 19:10:00

good movie but 530 mb omg !!

16/10/2006 09:59:00

Just amazingggg

24/10/2006 21:40:00

sweet

24/10/2006 21:41:00

hardluck

24/10/2006 21:41:00

gl soul, stukad & Moxx!

24/10/2006 21:46:00

I support XJ, I can't see the reason to do anything else.

crack
24/10/2006 21:48:00

would be good to disable comments for this newspost.... if i'd be a leading person, i would not want to read this..

24/10/2006 21:50:00

this is going to be nice....maybe

24/10/2006 21:56:00

gl XJ and kzmaps

24/10/2006 22:01:00

i support XJ now since a very very long time and i will not stop with it im still behind ya XJ <3 !

24/10/2006 22:04:00

let's see what will happen :)

24/10/2006 22:06:00

If there are problems with the community, you guys will leave. Nice admins .... -.- *I hope you've recognized the irony* Afterwards you guys say that some XJ admins do not respect new users and stuff like that, but why the hell don't you discuss it in the intern XJ channel to change this instead of simple leaving. I don't get it. Anyway, I hope you (soul|ftw, stukad,moxx and ernstaugust) will not be successful in the future with kzmaps but I think you will because of Moxx' situation to determine the kz tag for new maps. Again, I wish you no luck and I will of course support Xtreme-Jumps as good as possible as usual. I can tell you, I won't visit your kz_maps blblablabla site and I wont use your forum. I appreciate the work of xtreme-jumps and I surely appreciate the new changes. Good luck to the new Xtreme-Jumps! I know you as the official jump community and it will remain like this. Pff if there are problems I will run away. thats funny, maybe my little sister acts in that case as well but you... cant believe, cant be but I hope you will not succeed. I hope you know my opinion now. peace

24/10/2006 22:06:00

xj>kzmaps

24/10/2006 22:08:00

100% agree @ raYLa

24/10/2006 22:10:00

i hope and think XJ will only be better from now on : )

24/10/2006 22:17:00

ye knifear if i become admin :D

24/10/2006 22:24:00

very bad news :( <3 XJ

24/10/2006 22:24:00

word rayla!

24/10/2006 22:25:00

hard for XJ.. btw good luck to kzmaps

24/10/2006 22:27:00

Wtf!? totally agree with raYLa, try to find a solution, don't just run away from the problems.

24/10/2006 22:28:00

wow.. big changes :o I wish moxx and the crew good luck for sure, and i will support both no matter what. GL XJ with the new layout and stuff :)

24/10/2006 22:34:00

BTW BTW..is there any chance xj has got the old layout for this site? i wanna remember how it looked back in the old beautiful days :P cuz i really can't remember :P

24/10/2006 22:36:00

i totally agree with raYLa :E

24/10/2006 22:42:00

faker & Oddy & CG ftw ^^

24/10/2006 22:49:00

[size=20][color=indigo]who wants where, help him there[/color][/size]

24/10/2006 22:52:00

remembers me at the SPD a year ago... (Germany) ;)

FikoN
24/10/2006 22:55:00

Oh, we might as well shut our mouths now when raYLa, who seems to know quite a lot about things which happened in something he is no longer part of... For example, there has been many discussions about the fag smiley rule. Another example: the last time I spoke to faker, I told him that the part where a timer bug is being explained is unclear and should be re-written (in a quite rude way but I think he got the point xD). There has been no changes about that section in the FAQ since then. Don't judge Moxx, soul and stukad because they're starting up kzmaps again. Neither me or anyone of you know what has happened in XJ lately so we might as well leave our own opinions out of this. They obviously just didn't agree with oddy and faker about how a community should be handled. Anyway, I think it will be good for kz with some competition between the two biggest communities again.

24/10/2006 23:00:00

I cant really see how splitting the kz-community in half would be good for anyone.. The ones who left xj, were all admins on XJ, even head admin. They had the oppertunity to change things as they wanted.. In the last months i'v only seen one admin who have been really active and have tryed to change things, thats faker.

24/10/2006 23:01:00

xj ftw <3;)

24/10/2006 23:02:00

Big word to eXcaL!!

24/10/2006 23:07:00

omg childrengarden

24/10/2006 23:09:00

please no comments about "u could discuss" or saying "why didn't u do anything with ur high rang in xj?". cause nobody of you (except the admins for sure) know what happened the last months. go on..

24/10/2006 23:16:00

Us admins were all just regular users at some point. w0rd to ernstaugust; you people don't know what's been happening in the last month or two. We put in a fair chunk of effort on your behalf and it didn't work. Splitting the kz-community eh? Didn't XJ do that in the first place? Didn't that take a turn for the better? You're here now and defending it, so fair enough. On the other hand, others have noticed that this just isn't the same XJ anymore and are doing something about it. Call it "running away" if you will, but this is what we thought would make kz better again, with a better community. It seems to have made XJ FINALLY remove some stupid rules and improve the community again so I don't see why you're blaming us. We just want the best for kz and kzmaps was the original community so...

24/10/2006 23:24:00

xtreme-jumps ftw. kzmaps is bull**** :)

24/10/2006 23:37:00

Fuck! :P

24/10/2006 23:38:00

ernstaugust, what a contradiction... fakers first two sentences: "In my opinion it is very sad that Moxx, stukad and soul|ftw decided to leave XJ and try to fix the things on their own instead of helping me out in the past. I've asked for help or criticism pretty often and nobody came up with his ideas" He is an admin, he knows what has happened and he tells us that some admins did not do much work. And now they go away and try to do as much as possible (reviving an old community). Tell me if I am wrong but everybody should have seen it: faker was the one who came up with new ideas (e.g. longjump thread with records), faker was the one who has made nearly all newspost recently, faker was the one who has checked alot of demos(world records and lj demos). Do not get me wrong, you have done alot considering the homepage, there is no question about it, but as a simple xj member ( not admin ) I can tell you that you can nearly feel the inactivity of some admins. What about the map admins? They check maps ok, but did they do more? faker was nearly on his own in the past to change something and he has done his job quite well. btw FikoN, you say I am not able to judge their behaviour. I have daily conversations with faker and I just tell my opinion because everybody is alowed to do this. And everybody can see that some were just INACTIVE and now they go away because otherwise you should have seen some CHANGES in the past. Im tired, good night

24/10/2006 23:41:00

at base XJ is the German community of the kz and not the world reference, somebody who wishes to create his own community and which more is Moxx which with receipt of kreedz itself the capacity to choose such or such map is completely honourable. I will not forsake XJ for as much. they will have both of the interest for me and like Moxx kz is for fun said and has to make discover with the greatest number

24/10/2006 23:42:00

Word to raYLa. Moxx says in his statement that you were tired of how XJ was been managed. But how i have seen it the last months, you have been the management of xtreme-jumps....

24/10/2006 23:56:00

To be honest, us leaving XJ has saved it. There is one particular person who was going to leave XJ and it was all going to go downhill from there. Now this person has a reason to stay. Of course we hadn't planned that but that just happened ^^. About 2 months ago a thread was posted in the admin forum about removing the fagsmiley rule. EVERY SINGLE ADMIN was against it, bar OddY and the inactive few. Did he remove the rule? No. In fact, he kinda removed it, then added it again as a 3 warning = kick ban system. It's taken 4 of us to leave the community to FINALLY get it removed. What chance did we have of changing anything else if we threatened to go to that lengths to remove it? Why we haven't really tried to change anything else? Try looking at the intern chan when 90% of the text is in German and you don't speak German at all, and when OddY wouldn't change things (the fagsmiley rule). OddY even THREATENED to remove ernstaugust's +o because he came up to OddY amd complained to him about the fagsmiley rule. What the hell is up with that?! About a week ago, when mypTx FOR ONCE came in the channel, I asked him why he still has the fagsmiley rule on his bot. His response: "cuz it's lame". Err....PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU CREATE A RULE BECAUSE IT'S LAME. When I complained to him about what he said, he just said "don't flame on me, thx". Ok, so you wanna change XJ against the most stubborn headadmins? Well some of you are getting appointed soon. I wish you fucking good luck because you probably won't get far. Although this has probably opened OddY's eyes a little and made him more lenient. So whinge, moan, and flame all you want. This always happens on a big newspost and then after a week everyone's fine with it. I'm not gonna bother arguing anymore because this is bullshit. You're just flaming without any knowledge of anything that's gone on (and I've not mentioned everything) so I don't see why the hell you even bother.

24/10/2006 23:57:00

really bad news :/ good luck to kzmaps.org i think, i will support both communitys :E

25/10/2006 00:07:00

hm... :( maybe/hopefuly a new start

25/10/2006 00:11:00

that was some bad news ... :\

25/10/2006 00:14:00

kzmaps tfw. XJ gl and do your best to get better =)

25/10/2006 00:14:00

i meant , kzmaps FTw. xd

25/10/2006 00:59:00

ok soul|ftw, even though you are right, about everything, dont you agree that there should still be one official place for the kz community. Somewhere where you can compare player with player, where you get to know exactly whats going on with the community. Because now with what you are doing if people want to keep up with whats going on its going to be hard cause they are gonna have to keep reading 200 different websites and forums, and thats gonna make kz become boring for many. The point of xtreme-jumps is to put it all together, and if key members like the ones that are leaving start all this nonsense then youre gonna create chaos, because now youve also started some hate for yourselves and pretty soon its gonna be a war XJ vs KZMAPS. Even though its been hard for u guys to help or make a difference, well now youve made your point, maybe you should have tried it differently in the first place. In my opinion you guys should come back with your heads up and have a nice LONG talk with all the admins at once and come to a decision. This is like politics, you will never be able to please a whole country at once, you try to please the most you can. Well, this is it, i do hope you change your minds and come back, i wont support your new website, not because its crap but because im aggainst it. Yes it probably will be cool, and even maybe better than XJ, but come to your senses and save all the hard work for the XJ website. I still have hope you guys will come back =)

25/10/2006 01:05:00

I sure wouldnt judge Moxx and others of "running away from the problem". this is only good for all the climbers because both XJ and kzmaps are doing their best to make jumping more fun.

25/10/2006 01:06:00

There are already talks going on :)

25/10/2006 01:43:00

I like new ideas they are sweet :) good luck Moxx, sukad, soul|ftw. GL XJ :)

25/10/2006 07:37:00

gl 2 all :) XJ ftw :D

25/10/2006 09:45:00

I also speak a lot with faker, and the biggest frustration for him was that he was the only headadmin which were doing things. When he asked moxx about things that needed to be changed, he never got an answer. soul|ftw, I wanna hear about some arguments, some real arguments, and I don't wanna hear about the fagsmiley! That is one simple rule, and if 4 admins retreat from one rule, I'll say that is four pretty bad admins. Come with some arguments, you say that users on XJ don't have freedom, explayn me that, when I surf around XJ, I feel I have all the freedom I wan't too, I just have to obey the rules like in so many other big sites (fragbite, xplayn, gotfrag etc.), a site with such big number of users need to have a stricht pair of rules, without that the site couldn't survive. In my oppinion I don't feel that the rules are a heavy burden on my shoulders, I think it's nice that lamers, and people who make the work lack for the XJ admins, get banned or at least get a warning. Look at the latest, faker has given +10 people warnings, where they should have been banned, because it's a large site, you can actually do pretty many things that you aren't allowed to without getting banned. You make it seem like faker WANTS to ban users, I can only laugh about that, he is the only admin who is active, none of you other guys have been doing anything, not comming with ideas or helping out faker, look at the latest 50 news, it's all faker - Where are you moxx? Where have you been? He must ask himself. I know that fakers biggest intention is to make this site as good as possible for everyone. I think some people should remember that he is doing a work for free, and he is putting so much time in it each day. I would say that he deserves more respect than what you lowsy admins give him! I'll support XJ! I can't see ANY reasons to support Kzmaps.

25/10/2006 09:53:00

You're just flaming without any knowledge of anything that's gone on hehe, that's true. most of the "xj ftw" are some kind of childish "I want to be an admin" shouts ;). I think many things went wrong in the past on xj. I hope this split will make it better.. ps [IRC]<Guenhwyvar> xD ;)

25/10/2006 09:54:00

I agree with scary

25/10/2006 09:58:00

This is just my opinion so don't care :P Lately I've been inactive with kz, one reason cuz of the stupid rules and mean comments by admin(s), thats not the main reason, but it helps my inactivity for sure. I don't even get the fagsmiley-rule, is it that just some smileys are looking too ugly so u can't STAND them with no matter what. I'm not oldschool, but I feel it too, its not the same XJ what it was ~year ago, rulesrulesrules blablabla, even the cl_lw 0 rule exists, dont get the point of it either. I've seen mean comments from faker, BUT, I totally understand him cuz he's making so much work on his own and should I say, doing the best job in here (I know that other admins are also doing nice job, but I can see only faker's job.) so big r5pect to faker. I don't know all the things and details so I might be wrong, but this it how it seems to me. Anyways, I'm gonna support both communities, maybe its good to have competiting as FikoN said. So GL XJ and GL KZMAPS, <3 soul|ftw (tbh I hate u =DSA___B)

25/10/2006 11:01:00

i dont think that those guys leave xj cos they have ONE problem and leave the comunity about that, i think that this happend cos they have more than one little discusion.. maybe they cant do some things that they want to do.. maybe they cant do that things cos another person have more "authority".. how knows, any simple user like me can know that.. the same happend in the teams in nomal cs, one person is an asshole, and others leave the team, or one maybe more than one, have "x" problems, and others leave the team too.. so.. that things happend, and i think its better that these things happend, because one comunity (or team) have to be comunicated to grow up.. if that not happend... it fall down.. so.. i wish gl too xj, and kzmaps, and i hope that both have a good cometition, whitout any argue..

25/10/2006 12:02:00

Wll, i didnt read all the reactions, but as far as i can see. Its better that the kz-scene split up O_O If the admins cant even listen right to eachother, solve problems(i kno its hard to satisfy everyone) and work together, then its better to split up... GL to XF and kzmaps such a shame this happened though, i dont see a bright future coming for on of these communities.

25/10/2006 12:36:00

xj is the one and only <3

25/10/2006 13:28:00

Have you ever heard of the BIG SPLIT in the IRC world? Well I think we call this the BIG SPLIT of the KZ world. :O Before XJ I visited kzmaps a lot. Until Kreedz said he was going to "retire" and the site began to use that 1280x1024 layout. Is that still on there? Please remove that. :D

25/10/2006 14:10:00

it's the same shit between counter-strike 1.6 and counter-strike source i hope that nobody go to kzmaps gl as full leader faker

25/10/2006 14:27:00

yeah! so on and so on! why dont you let me roll on! WELL HELL HERE I GO: FIRST OF ALL FICKOOON : when i wuz readin dis news , i wuz lookin 4ward to ur ugly comment rite here and I knew dat u will be sayin bshits like dis and yo kno why? bcuz I (and most of da guys here) know dat u hate faker, and u wont use your brain for a mature opinion.. and so I didnt really expected aneythin else but this watt u have written here. 2 ALL LOOSERS HU LEFT BECOZ OF BIGBALLS: you were a admins rite here, you COULD discuss, you COULD sort out the problems here, you COULD make it a lot better (like faker was trying to) and you COULD change a lot of things here, if you think this was discused enough, than faker is a liar! just say that!! I fully agree with both your comments rayla! - YOU TOOK MY WORDS! (fikon, yes, he said his own opinion, and maaan believe me - ur lucky that the world is online nowdays) Faker was doing most of the job here (last (yeee few) days), you all was a lordly lazy fags. I agree with the changes (and improvments) that faker did now, I dont think this couldnt be done without your (great) decision. Yeah, Im not a pro-climber - I've been never jumping climb maps somehow active(just rarely) but I like this community and im visiting it since of the kzmaps times quite often so I've seen how it was and now I see how it is - back the days it was a (maybe nooblike) very friendly community with a lot of fun in etc (yeah maybe thats missin here, but the problems are here for sorting them out) nowdays its much more known, more international, more pro-like, a lot of thinks are improved here but some things are lost.. Im visiting this site because I love this shit, strafes n bhops - dats my passion, dats my style in real cs! GL XJ, go faker! - u can do much more, you can do it! [b]maaan u did a LOT! but you can make it HOT! website more addictive lika drug as soon as the beat drop show 'em how you rock and you'll be on top kzmaps said NOT! messin wit XJ is like sayin uuunhh fuck give 'em some proof bills with some real skills to show 'em they suck! Here you got my useless opinions, I dont give a F U C K! Just gimme a block! I wont stop![/b] Im about millions and here are my opinions! If I die for one of my statements! Than all of my haters will lay down killed on pavements!

25/10/2006 14:48:00

GL XJ & KZMAPS

25/10/2006 15:25:00

ohh oRioN stop talking shit like in your 2) part. we TRYED it, but we COULDN'T!

25/10/2006 15:26:00

word to my "nigga" oRioN! <3 ya faker all bitchass cowards die

25/10/2006 15:29:00

Sorry if we don't try to act black and act hard, but this is the solution for us that ACTUALLY CHANGED SOMETHING IN XJ, too.

25/10/2006 16:17:00

'we TRYED it, but we COULDN'T! ' if you really do, you could make a forum (FOR EXAMPLE) 'who wants a better xj?' with thingy lika: ------------ Hi kids, we have a serious probs in xj management, eveythin sux, everybody fucks, some things have to be changed or we will create another own project which we think should be far better. changes that XJ needs to be better are: -fuck faker -fuck fagsmiley -change this -add fikon as a the best inactive jumper -make it more fun by adding/removing this and this and changing this.. -change another thingy etc etc etc... faker doesnt share the same opinions with us, we think he is retarded, we think this and this things r goin bad here, and here are the possible solutions which should fix it, how about you folks? Vote! ------------- This is just example (one of the billion possible mature solutions). Ok i dont care, if you hate eachself, its better to split of course, but please dont try to fool us, that you were doing your best in sorting this probs out and doin anything that was possible for XJ to make it even better than it is now. Lay low and stay low! Peace!

25/10/2006 16:25:00

I didnt plan to write anohter statement about the situation, but some statements just aren't true. It's very sad what happend in XJ the last time and there was a lag of engagement, especially on the admins that formed kzmaps now. A little example: I've talked 10x longer to Moxx yesterday after he left XJ (to discuss what will happen in the future) than I've taked to him when he was an admin. (I often tryed but he rarely replied or just said that he doesn't agree. There were VERY FEW discussions.). Ernstaugust really tryed to change some things like the fagsmiley rule but there were some problems with OddYsseus and I can somehow understand his fustration. stukad was a busy cupadmin (thanks for the many cups again), but he never was concered about other things like the IRC channel or whatever... soul|ftw tryed to get the IRC channel more vival again, but it was all about the fagsmilie rule again - and only ernstaugust replied on that issue; not even stukad or Moxx really cared about it (nowadays kzmaps admins)... Moxx told me that he has no time for XJ (selling stuff @ ebay and making a website and stuff...) whenever I tryed to talk to him... So you guys are doing pretty easy to say it was my fault or OddYsseus' fault... I always was concernd about ur opinions, but most of u guys just weren't motivated enough to change things (except of ernst) at XJ and I wonder why you you should find this motivaton at kzmaps...

25/10/2006 16:27:00

Yes, and big word to oRioN's last post. They never said anything about their plan to leave, so this action is still back-stabbing (as I already told them) in my opinion.

25/10/2006 16:32:00

faker I made a thread in the admin discussion about how to improve the IRC channel and get it busy again. I got 4 replies, 1 of which was by me. We came up with some good ideas too. Did any of the ideas go through? Nah. Did that make me lose motivation because if I wanted to change things, I didn't feel I had the backing of the management? Yah.

25/10/2006 16:34:00

And even if I didn't do as much work as I could've (moderating the forums from time to time, running cups), I helped the users personally. I made people feel like they could come to me and talk to me and they wouldn't get insulted or anything. And you were one of those people, faker. So was OddY once. So were a lot of others. The users were important to me, not the website as such. I just wanted to make as many people as happy as I possibly could and make them enjoy their stay :(

25/10/2006 16:51:00

HAHAHA : for the ppl who think faker is a mean admin : try going to myg0t forums.. now thats mean... and look - their forums are still interesting and very fun to visit, they are doing fine with more active members than xj. xj is actually the most peaceful website ive ever known, but imo if its fun to visit or not matters more than being nice/peaceful

25/10/2006 17:10:00

btw faker, this is back-stabbing? This doesn't even compare to that time where I lost all my trust in you. The time when you revealed what you really are, what you did and how much of an ass you had been? Remember? I respected you for coming to tell me, and I forgave you instantly. I didn't tell ANYONE. I just moved on with my life and let you move on with yours. This is COMPLETELY different. This is me making my own decision that is trying to benefit as many people as we possibly can. Yes I didn't tell you, but it wasn't my plan. I just don't trust you anymore after that day. Yes I have moved on from that incident but I will never forget the day when one of my best friends in the community revealed that he's not all he's cracked up to be..

FikoN
25/10/2006 17:21:00

raYLa, faker told you the story from his point of view. I bet you haven't heard it from any of the leaving admins...? scary, the reason I decided to tell faker and oddy what I think is that I also was unhappy with how the community was being handled. And don't tell me ernst, soul, moxx and stukad are bad admins. They're all good admins. And for the people who "doesn't wanna visit 200 sites and forums to get updated". Yeah I admit it's comfortable and easy to be able to visit only one site and get updated. But I'll tell you one thing, the community has been split much longer than it has been one part. It has worked before, why not again? oRioN, you seem like an intelligent man. I won't even try to read what your writing... I've got better things to do. Stop thinking that you're an american gangstah or whatever. Go to school and quit smoking marijuana... I don't hate faker. I went over the line when I flamed him. I admit that. I think faker is a nice guy. The only problem is that we have different opinions about how a community should be handled and it's the same thing with ernstmoxxsoulstukad and faker & oddy. Someone mentioned politics before. It's the same thing here. faker and oddy has one opinion and ernstmoxxsoulstukad has another one. They do not share opinions about how a community should be handled, so I don't see any reason why they should be admins in the same community. And pleeeease. People who have not ever been part of XJ, you can't form an opinion from what you see as a regular user. No disrespect but it's impossible to see all the facts if you haven't been an admin. And don't think you know things because you've seen logs or been told what's happened from one admin. That's his version of it, not always what really happened. (BTW, I'm not saying I know what's been going on lately in XJ. When I'm posting, I'm posting from what I saw when I was part of XJ)

crack
25/10/2006 17:35:00

There's nothing more to do than to agree and share Fikon's oppinions. Why are some of u such haters? I can't understand that, most of u say: Fuck xj, kzmaps ftw. others say the straight opposite.. Before kzmaps and XJ became one, the community wasn't splitted.. so I don't even understand why you're all talking about a "split". Just a "big change" as the topic says, but its not a split. What keeps you away from supporting both communities? You can do cups, map uploads and all the stuff anyways! Aggrendising yourself can make u freakin' delirious... talking crap that makes no sense just to aggrendise yourselves.. man, keep this real and just keep on jumping, 2 communites = 2x more cups :) try to see things from a positive point of view..

25/10/2006 17:39:00

What the hell does aggrendise mean?! Who taught you that word? :P It doesn't exist :D

25/10/2006 17:40:00

"I made people feel like they could come to me and talk to me and they wouldn't get insulted or anything." soul thats bullshit :D u always insulted me in the channel and I'm bitter and I still haven't forgive you. And you all make faker look like bad dude with your comments, thats very sad, WAKE UP FFS !! for me it's great to see someone with so much passion for the community.. FOR US ffs... think ppl... think... Now I'm not gonna open my heart anymore for this topic, and soul dont get me wrooooong <3 =DSA____B

25/10/2006 17:43:00

NiconeN it was only because you started it! :D I blame you entirely! x___D

25/10/2006 17:47:00

whats the "fagsmiley rule"? can someone explain please? thanks!

25/10/2006 17:53:00

soul|ftw You'r a r'cunt [color=red][/color] <3

25/10/2006 17:56:00

FikoN you know I respect you more than any other person in this KZ-world, but I still think that it would be better to form one community instead of two. Maybe it was too much too say that stukad, ernst and soul was bad admins, but I'll still hold on too my first opinion that moxx is a very lowsy admin. I can explayn why if you wan't too.

25/10/2006 18:00:00

FikoN wrote :[b] oRioN, you seem like an intelligent man. I won't even try to read what your writing... I've got better things to do. Stop thinking that you're an american gangstah or whatever. Go to school and quit smoking marijuana...[/b] -------------------------------------------------- U dont know oRioN so shut the fuck up fikon and dont tell people what to do .. u seem pretty retarded to me .. u should go to school and learn to be a normal human been ..

25/10/2006 18:04:00

And soul|ftw, I've always could speak too faker if I had a problem, and he replied with entuisiasm. I really felt that I could seek help in faker.

25/10/2006 18:06:00

wow guys lets just all calm down and think of the greatest kz player ever! (tedbundy) and how skilled and talented he is... its mind blowing. i mean how can a person be so damn good? usually ppl who are good at hard maps are bad at easy maps or the other way around... but not him.. this guy got no weaknesses! :D :D

FikoN
25/10/2006 18:06:00

Moxx is quite frankly lazy :) But he's still a good admin imo. haha and orion knows me? gg solid. You also seem very intelligent.

crack
02/11/2006 19:41:00

holla holla holla! i keep thinkin' if it was good to leave the comments disabled...

02/11/2006 19:49:00

So what is happening with KZMAPS atm.?

03/11/2006 21:49:00

PLEASE GUYS ITS THE XJ WEEKLY AND NOT THE KZMAPS VS. XJ WAR NEWS! PLEASE PLEASE SHUT UP GUYS I CAN'T HEAR IT ANYMORE! GO HOME KIDDYS AND PLAY WITH YOU LITTLE DICKS!

06/11/2006 15:15:00

i cant download :(

09/11/2006 09:11:00

I wil support both XJ and kzmaps,so good luck to both of you :) :D

09/11/2006 09:19:00

L.O.L :o This is one great movie! <3 :)

01/12/2006 02:01:00

first things first: lol secondly....this is what happens when i take a break from keeping the peace in this community as i have for about 4 years now. i consider myself a problem solver but i didnt see this going on cuz i wasnt around. in all of the little bit of worldy wisdom i have about games,thier forums, thier communites, and thier clans/clubs/guilds........this what you are doing is a big mistake. kreedz left at somepoint.....and since we had dickbags for admins the likes of mcsk8r and bambi at the original kzmaps(which made the fitrst competition for kreedz own site).......everything has gone nothing but uphill since they finally left. and they were threatened by for thinking i was trying to "take over" looooooool XJ took over and thats a fact.....because they had much cooler people running the show. sadly most of them are gone now because of new additions. i still say you all made a huge mistake by not placing me(with all my experience in these things/issues) as a head admin. i ouwld have controlled the assholes.....i would have chosen the right bpeople by hand who should run the shit.....simply because of the way they were....i would never in my life open applications for soemthing as touchy as a community.....i would have hand picked them...making sure i chose guys who would get along...and if i find one of my descisions were wrong...id kick that one dude with out thinking twice. remember: those who apply for an admin position may not have the same goals as you...he might be a control monger....he might be just looking for acceptance....he might be real and want to do something for this community as i ALWAYS HAVE FROM DAY ONE......you all sort of ignored me and i hate you all for doing that too me. i am one of the most engaged people in this entire community if you would have let me......look what i did when you didnt? of course i failed a bit too in some way although i did reach my own personal goal of releaseing a MOD(didnt matter what kind). in the end here....it is sad to see this get split back up to only cuase more confusion and arguements...the arguements for this split do not stick only with the admins....you are also gathering your entire community to argue amongst themselves which will in turn ruin the community more than help it....look simply at this thread.... those who spoke more than 5 words at the beginning of it....had people who agreed until someone else wrote more than 5 words with different thoughts...then they all went to that guy.....its obvious...read the comments from top to bottom to see what i mean. this is not good. one thing is interesting.....i told moxx a long time ago he wouldnt stay :) just because he wasnt as well accepted among xj admins as he was when he was placed in charge of the original kzmaps. it was me who pushed for the fusion of one site.......you all went my way....i talked to many of you in single conversations and planted that "one site" seed...i let you do the rest. now im gone for a while and it breaks the fuck up.......DAMN Sad truth to all of you: without OddySeus...there would be no kz anymore because no one is willing to pay what hes paying for all these sites and space for these unbeliecvable amount of maps and demos and movies. you all need to thank him 20 times before you go to bed tonight. excuse me for saying this too and im not trying to hurt anyone by saying it: DO NOT....i repeat...DO NIOT let people under 20 run your community. me?...i would never in my life let Fikon on as an admin. its not that hes a ugly person or a dick or whatever you might think....its simply because of his age....(dude im only using you as an excample) people under 20 do not have the "air of responsability" to run communities for a long term basis. and as a slight fact...many of the younger ones are those who create the turmoil. this is just simply a fact of life. why do you think presidents have to be over 45 years old......because younger than that they dont have the experience and charisma to make it happen with confidence. thier descision making abilities are not yet honed. motto how ever you break this shit up guys.......stop getting young ass admins...get responsible people that you hand pick and not as a popularity factor let them apply for the job. splitting the community is ugly ugly ugly news for my head. notice i didnt smack anyone in particular in this post...i just spoke some wisdom to you, hoping that it sits well with you higher ups and can make some sense. im even quite suprised if Kreedz himself is having any say in any of this since he left it. he left me personally too. said this and that he would do for kzmod...not one promise was fullfilled....is that trustworthy enough to let him make descisions? i showed him what i made of his concept on source....."nice1" was all he had to say about it.....sorry Pat...you lost me right there buddy. i put your shit on TV..in magazines.......whats going on right now is fucking totally retarded childish bullshit. im actually mad now sorry....i dont talk much ..but when i do....its because yer fuckin up("you" is: the admins of any of these 2 sites) and yes...faker is mad active for this....i knew it back then and still know it. hes the right guy...but you have others in your shit that are not the right guy. you fucked up by not letting the right guy IN that would be me peace and good luck in your endeavors.....lets hope it works out for both of you and peace can remain although i highly doubt this....it will take a lot of time to heal these wounds on EVERYBODY who knows about it.

01/12/2006 02:15:00

you are only as strong as your weakest man get rid of the weak man splitting the sites up also splits the community and my original goal was to have them all at one place. i cant believe this..another sleepless night for me then...accepted

01/12/2006 02:17:00

yes i know im late with this upsetness about this topic...but its new to my ears :)

21/12/2006 01:19:00

nice movie thx by Brazilian player =]

11/01/2007 16:06:00

gnnaar only 500 kb/s ;( need better internet.. downloading though ;O

12/01/2007 00:16:00

1600kb/sec ftw!

01/03/2007 17:05:00

och nice video 1 hod 25 minut down :D:D

13/03/2007 09:44:00

bonus stuff.......music-???

Corey_Taylor
13/03/2007 23:16:00

i think it is Andy Hunter - Alive but i dont really know!

18/03/2007 13:39:00

Cant u make it a torrent file?

16/04/2007 10:06:00

slow!slow!!!!

03/05/2007 22:57:00

Decent movie. 3-4 minutes credits which is kinda sucky :/

07/09/2007 00:15:00

Gj team :) <3 :)

21/01/2008 09:26:00

where can i find those Hanniball demo's from in dust2 and inferno ??

06/02/2008 10:17:00

m i think its cool but I will give a miss two with soul ftw :) <3 [code][/code] [code][/code]

20/05/2008 22:45:00

time 13:37 =)))

03/12/2009 14:40:00

2.5 mb/s 0/10