My retirement

By faker mapper·
Hey,

this may come very surprising for most of you guys, but believe me - it's no joke and im totally serious about it. I started losing the fun in playing kz_ maps and doing the work for XJ about 2 months ago, but it's getting worse and worse everyday. When im heading out for this page these days, I just get annoyed and angry about the (demanding and kiddy) attitude of some of the users. They take all the work we do as self-evident and start immediately to flame and cry if something isn't working that perfect. Another aspect is that I've been around for a long time and did a lot of work, but after all the time, I just feel empty and without any new motivation. I just can't go on with these things anylonger. Live goes on, and so does my real life. I won't have much time to spend in front of my computer in the future anyway. Time to move on to the next stage of life - so I guess this is a good moment to say goodbye and make room for new persons who want to contribute to the community.

Live long and in prosper

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16/03/2007 22:49:00

bye :)

16/03/2007 22:49:00

hf pwning the rest of my records brian :E

16/03/2007 22:49:00

:( thx for all yaa work

16/03/2007 22:49:00

<3 notredam.. by brian... :PWND <3 u faker

16/03/2007 22:50:00

cu ! gl in future

16/03/2007 22:51:00

this is a great pity to hear... but.. when we all think honest to us.... then we know... real life is much much more important than some internet stuff.... so big thx to u faker for ur rly good work here :) and good luck and stuff in rl... sure we hear from u anyway :) <3

16/03/2007 22:53:00

GL faker in real life.. Im quiting this virtual life soon too :[

16/03/2007 22:57:00

Gl faker in youre real life, and gj in all the work youve done:)

16/03/2007 23:00:00

We have apreciated what you've done all the time! GL faker!

16/03/2007 23:01:00

thx for all you've done for kreedz maps, u were the only one than kept this site moving some months ago c u in another life

16/03/2007 23:03:00

Wow :( very sad news.. kz wont be the same without you.. one of the best administrators in here.. Bye and good luck in your life

16/03/2007 23:08:00

very sad :( but u're right live goes so on so GL and keep up with the passion that you devoted to run this site best wishes

16/03/2007 23:10:00

no :( :( :( bye faker... much love and good luck in life

16/03/2007 23:14:00

faker <3 Have fun and gl with your life :)

16/03/2007 23:16:00

8 months and about 4 other quitting times later, it's finally happened. Thanks for all your work man, for helping me and others along the way in the kz world :) hf in your life (wtf is a life?!!?!?!?!?!?!? k) and stay in contact :) And if you're back tomorrow, I will actually stab you in the face :D

16/03/2007 23:19:00

another old climber go away ! bye faker

16/03/2007 23:22:00

<3 cya boy :)

16/03/2007 23:22:00

:S

16/03/2007 23:23:00

gl faker, your work is much appreciated <3

16/03/2007 23:25:00

it's hard to say goodbye, faker :(

16/03/2007 23:31:00

faker SUX!!!! :P

16/03/2007 23:37:00

Thanks faker for all your work. I hope you will visit us from time to time :) I wish you the best for your life ;) cu <3

16/03/2007 23:47:00

You'll be missed, both as a person and for the things you have done. Have fun.

16/03/2007 23:48:00

well everything can't be forever.. now i just hope some1 else will take such big responsibility as u did 4 the community, otherwise things would move slow i guess.. glhf with rl stuff anyways:))) u did n1 jobs at xj faker:D!!

16/03/2007 23:50:00

cu -.-

16/03/2007 23:55:00

Bye and good luck faker. I hope you stay in contact with the community and visit the site now and then. ;)

16/03/2007 23:55:00

all good things come to and end :/ gl faker in rL and i hope we will stay in contact :)

16/03/2007 23:58:00

Yo faker. All I can say is that your work here was always the best. After 2 years it is no wonder to lose motivation. Live on man. Good luck on whatever you are doing. You are the best! THATS A DAMN COMPLIMENT MAN!! BE PROUD FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE! VitriN you better shut the fuck up b*tch :) (if your are a friend of faker, i'm sorry).

16/03/2007 23:59:00

GL irl faker ! ...other admins better start working harder beacuse i think faker did alot of work himselfe ... much love faker :)

16/03/2007 23:59:00

bye faker! i know everybody said that already but i have to say it again. you did a very nice job on xj and i you have my best wishes for your life :)

16/03/2007 23:59:00

gl in real life faker

17/03/2007 00:01:00

sad news, you were pretty much the only one who ever did any work around here.

17/03/2007 00:08:00

good bye. It was really fun having you around and I think that everybody will miss you. You have done great things for this community and for all counter strike climbers. I think all of us are really greatfull for all your work here. Everybody knew that this day would come. And now we have to help out together to get this side still active. Well Good luck and live long.

17/03/2007 00:11:00

What will xj do with out faker?? :o gl with your RL

17/03/2007 00:16:00

I bet my guts that vitrin = rixpler (or something)

17/03/2007 00:19:00

Z0ck3rOO7: all good things come to an end :/ So true. <3 faker.

17/03/2007 00:23:00

faker, i have quastion: If T3dbundy is start another play Kz_, you come back :D?

17/03/2007 00:46:00

Good bye and thanks for your work. Your work was really great!

17/03/2007 01:03:00

hard job to replace faker. he did it quiet well, mostly... ;p byebye

17/03/2007 01:05:00

faker <3 Thank you for all the time you have put into making kz what it is today.. You will be missed..

17/03/2007 01:19:00

[b] [color=blue]Good Bye Faker..gL in ReaL Life..[/color] [/b]

17/03/2007 01:20:00

GL faker! and HF.

17/03/2007 01:21:00

i knew it.. good job :>

17/03/2007 01:35:00

Thank you faker! You pwn3d in our heart and mind 4ever

17/03/2007 01:47:00

good luck in real life man!!

17/03/2007 01:48:00

[color=blue]GL faker and THX FOR YOUR ALL GREAT WORK you're the best admin~~~ [/color]

17/03/2007 02:22:00

GL faker, bye

17/03/2007 02:23:00

First of all, THANKS for your work faker! You teh man lo<3 ! :) I don't know what else to say mate, everyone here has said what i wanted to say. I wish you all the best irL!! And i truely mean it -.- ( Im still there for you, if you know what i mean :) ) @zAnkOkU <3 & omilo <3 .. worD! XJ team, show your respect towards faker for what he has done for the community´, you know what i mean (hopefully) keep it alive and keep developing. Peace faker :)

17/03/2007 02:24:00

<- drunk ^^

17/03/2007 02:35:00

See ya faker...

17/03/2007 02:48:00

Sorry to hear that you lost all the interest, but I can imagine it though. You´ve been the most active admin around for a long time and did a nice job. I wish the best for you IRL, thanks. :)

17/03/2007 02:51:00

I although heel how did you once get in touch with not.But I feel you are an employable managing person.You deal with affairs justice.I admire you very much.The xj needs the managing person that you are such. Is it all right to not walk.Don't mind the words that the FIR says.He is a not reasonable kid

17/03/2007 03:00:00

GJ, you did alot of good work hf in rl ^.^

17/03/2007 03:22:00

Thanks alot for everything you have done.

17/03/2007 04:47:00

bye man <3

17/03/2007 05:52:00

:( Goodbye and take care. You've done alot for xj.

17/03/2007 07:39:00

bye faker. i doubt kz will be the same without you. :/

17/03/2007 07:44:00

gl

17/03/2007 08:37:00

we will miss you, have phun in your real life

17/03/2007 08:40:00

I really appreciate the work you've done here faker :)

17/03/2007 08:43:00

[color=green]:D[/color] :(

17/03/2007 08:48:00

<3 faker ur so good , plz dont go >.<

17/03/2007 09:04:00

bye :(

17/03/2007 09:08:00

bye faker you were the only good administrator xj won't be the same :(

17/03/2007 09:23:00

bad news because i liked fakers work i hope there will be a guy who lead the xj crew now...

17/03/2007 09:37:00

Don't delete your movie on your harddrive :D Be good and take care <3

17/03/2007 09:46:00

take care in your RL hope you come back eventually to pwn some ass again :)

17/03/2007 09:50:00

thx for faker your strength gl in your rl

17/03/2007 09:55:00

:( really sad news GL in rL i wish you to concor a lot of pussies :D

17/03/2007 10:05:00

I think you know exactly what I think about you and your work, we've talk many times about that, useless to say it here! I just hope that XJ won't die... Because you're ~70% of the XJ work! Good luck in your real life, maybe I'll travel to Germany with my family in the future, I hope I'll meet you ;D

17/03/2007 10:20:00

just wanna c faker's picture

17/03/2007 10:20:00

First of all, thanks for everything faker, u were always so helpful and friendly towards me =) I'll remember that always. Imo u were one of the greatest things in this community, so much work and dedication. GL and HF in your life and dont quit the whole online-world! ;P so cya my friend! <3

17/03/2007 10:25:00

yeah faker u did many for the community and also for me .. u remember how i was submitting my first kz Map ? it was full of stress and happyness after it was accepted .. and that day u was still with me writing and organizing stufff =) I remember that day like today.. It was really cool to hang with u.. And i think everybody apriciate the things that u did.. faker bye and hf .. the real life is much better and i think u know that better than me =).. Anyway.. i quited making maps for cs 1.6 So its like my own good bye.. Faker the legend..!

17/03/2007 10:39:00

Sad news but I understand you.You have played for a long time so it`s normal to retire.I hope you will come back one day! :(

17/03/2007 10:40:00

Very sad news :( We have had some bad times (maybe someone can remember it) :P . But imo you ARE XJ and I really hope that XJ stays alive but gl in real life. :)

17/03/2007 10:56:00

You did alot for X-J. I miss you :[ Though you hate me :|

17/03/2007 10:57:00

Sad news. I will miss you faker <3

17/03/2007 11:43:00

<3 faker hf in real life. I found out some months ago that its actualy fun, a bit scary though. <3

17/03/2007 11:46:00

glhf

17/03/2007 12:01:00

omg no faker :( :( :(

17/03/2007 12:19:00

aye, you've done a lot for the kreedz community and without you and XJ, it would've folded when kzmaps went down - so you've been absolutely vital to all of us. Take care, don't get too drunk ;D

17/03/2007 12:37:00

:/ <3 faker gl in your rL

17/03/2007 12:55:00

great

17/03/2007 13:20:00

We all will miss U :)

17/03/2007 13:50:00

You have done great job for this community and I hope that other admins will do ur job as well as u did <3 Your a nice person without a doubt... GL in ur RL! Peace c^^ ,)

17/03/2007 14:00:00

Thanks for the flowers people. It really means much for me to see that the work I did wasn't wasted. You are a good community, go on with being like that (except of the kiddies!!! :mad:) :) <3

17/03/2007 14:26:00

thanks for contributing so much to the community. I just hope XJ can find someone else as enthusiastic as u. :] gl faker :P

17/03/2007 14:28:00

the best decision you've ever made :) <3 faker

Corey_Taylor
17/03/2007 14:34:00

we won't miss you

17/03/2007 14:36:00

We won't miss you either when you get banned punk!

17/03/2007 14:39:00

dont make me cry!

17/03/2007 15:03:00

gl & hf :) Bye

17/03/2007 15:12:00

gl. we won't miss you

17/03/2007 15:13:00

hf for futher :)

17/03/2007 15:31:00

thank you for everything :) hf for the future, I'm sure ull come 'round sometimes. :) Once addicted... :P

17/03/2007 15:47:00

bye faker

17/03/2007 16:02:00

bye man :/.

17/03/2007 16:07:00

<3 faker bb

17/03/2007 16:44:00

it becomes clearer and clearer to me what this means for xj... a big losing...

17/03/2007 16:46:00

Take care mate u were the best

17/03/2007 17:18:00

To all the guys who said "faker sucks" or "we wont miss you" You dont know who faker was. I strongly reccomend you just to look at the last 300 newsposts... faker has 90% of them.. maybe more. He is the person who contributed the MOST for the community.. unlike you. He had dedicated more than his free time, I'm sure, just to make you guys happy. Check out the Longjump recs thread for example. Who kept it alive? -faker. And the thanks he gets is "faker sucks" . This is pretty unfair imo.

17/03/2007 17:34:00

word bl00d, all who said that should get a perm ban -.-

17/03/2007 17:45:00

faker you did a geat job for whole kz world. gl in RL and bye bye

17/03/2007 18:57:00

*SORRY! I can't speak english very well. correct word 'won't' -> 'will' Sorry, faker. gl and bye..

17/03/2007 19:02:00

Really sorry about this sentence... 'we won't miss you' i was confused.

17/03/2007 20:37:00

You are the best honorary member ;) gl in rl (alles gute^^)

17/03/2007 20:50:00

<3 faker take care

17/03/2007 21:07:00

thx 4 all and take care ...and who measure dems now? :D

18/03/2007 00:07:00

It's about time you left this community!! I mean it's nothing personal at all.. I just hate you, and I mean you faker! Now I can finally try to get a good night sleep after this traumatic experience that went on for this period of time. I like a guy with motivation, but I can't say I like you even though you're more motivated than most. Because you've been using your motivation to alter people's state of mind like a neurotic shrink. bl00d_d00d: I doubt that too, maybe now we could actually get some new rules that are good and not completely fucked up and just plain stupid. Because you are so quick to block and ban people who express their opinion and it doesn't match yours.. guessing you will do the same to me. You really earned the nickname "FAKKER" that me and a friend came up with, just for you!! faker I will always miss you and the ways you could make me laugh out of pity for you. I like a guy with motivation just like you. But if I was so motivated I wouldn't put my motivation into fucking with everyone and abuse my powers to ruin all the freedom and the other good things about kz! I'm amazed that such an idiot was left with so much power for so long time. I mean besides the fact that you are a fucking idiot, you are quite a nice guy!

FikoN
18/03/2007 00:13:00

Well said, Alts!cH. Almost as if I said it myself. Why did you remove escorsian's account? Does everyone have to honor faker as he's leaving? Fuck that. He's allowed to have an opinion..

18/03/2007 00:42:00

Why don't you two run the fucking community then? XJ wouldn't have 35000 members if it wasn't for faker and you two combined probably couldn't get that many members to come here. Just because faker might have mistreated you once, you flame him at every opportunity. Well times change. faker's a really nice person who's committed to helping others and keeping this place open and all you have to say about it is that he's a cunt. Well he's not. You two are. I thought you were better than useless flaming retards

18/03/2007 01:23:00

[center][size=16][color=red]Alts!cH, FikoN i'm out of words :/ I think there's rarely a post with more Bullshit in it Alts!cH....You are the FAKKERS here :mad: JUST SHUT UP. [/color][/size] [/center]

18/03/2007 01:42:00

Alts!cH, FikoN... Go home and shut the fuck up, it'll be better for everybody.

FikoN
18/03/2007 01:50:00

Geez do we really have to get into a serious discussion? For your information, I made XJ international. So, how many members do you think XJ would have if they were still german? Like 1000? I'm not saying faker hasn't done good things for the community. I'm just saying that he could have done much better and much more things if he wasn't such an ass. And again, let's not get into a serious discussion..

18/03/2007 02:02:00

hf&gl faker in your rL :) fikon, altsich.. no comment at all :E

18/03/2007 02:05:00

You could also have done much better and much more things if you weren't such an ass. And sigh, congrats for not being German and making XJ international because of it, because if it wasn't for you, nobody else would've come along and done it *wonders*

18/03/2007 02:13:00

yep, without you xj wouldn't be international nowadays..

18/03/2007 02:16:00

and even if it would be like that, at least you could have said it in an other way! But calling faker FAKKER, ass, neurotic shrink, fucking idiot... that's the limit word soul... horrifying...

18/03/2007 02:25:00

LOL the little 15 year old kid fikon is pretty funny....

18/03/2007 03:13:00

sad dude real sad

18/03/2007 06:24:00

lol fikon u didnt made xj international, kreedz retiring and kz maps folding made it, because there where no other place to get the maps from and send records... u still mad cuz target wasn't perm banned? don't be, u still banned him once to reach #1(ok he deserved it but many people started jumping after watching what he was capable of) and then changed fps rules to whatever u wanted to, thus depriving low end users from demo recording so much for spreading kz...

18/03/2007 06:30:00

OMFG if you guys have JUST looked at the namechange thread... excorsian's account wasnt deleted. his name was changed. with his request. look at the log. Is that what the flaming was about? :o

18/03/2007 07:17:00

Fikon i lost my respect for u a long time ago .. ur a fucking dumbass.. u think ur a pro .. Fuck that ... u were never a pro .. then u said u lost ur motivation.. oh yeah because there were better jumpers than u .. so here u go pink wearing yahoo .. go to sleep and never come back bitch and for altschit .. its youre opinion.. But faker has done much more for the community than u two for youre whole life.. So stop being haters and SHUT THE FUCK UP

18/03/2007 07:36:00

i'm escorsian. i... it just mistake... was confused between 'will' and 'will not' i dont know what does it means. sorry. i intended just 'miss you'.

18/03/2007 08:57:00

hey guy's ,chill up :/ wtf r u doing all, dont qurrel with it.

18/03/2007 11:38:00

FikoN and Alts!cH...I always respected u both a LOT, but I gotta say that u just ruined it. I don't judge people very easily, but I've always noticed some need of being valid in FikoN, always complaining how this community is shit and it's not the same as it was used to be blablabla. Your time was and my time was, but the difference between you and me is that I accept it that there are better jumpers than me. You didn't even check the the escorsians account thing, right after Alts!cH u wanted to express your bitter opinion. I don't care if you made XJ internatiol. As many have said, you think that someone else wouldn't have done it? faker has done more for this community than you ever will, you are just a bitter oldschool pro, nothing more. But hey this is nothing personal, just my opinion about you, ass.

18/03/2007 12:52:00

Your work and life is the most degree ever as we all need to LEARN gform/ thx for helps ever u give out . GL in life . can be back sometime maybe.

FikoN
18/03/2007 13:16:00

soul|ftw, perhaps. we'll never know. all other admins were strongly against it at that time though. nizheradze, you're wrong. on both points. s0lid, you're wrong. faker made me loose my motivation. besides, you're not sticking to facts.. you're just flaming so i don't even know why I bothered answering you. niconen, i dont care either. but soul was whining about it. i've been aware of the fact that there are better jumpers than me.. and I'm not a bitter pro. I'm just someone who likes to fuck with people every once in a while.

18/03/2007 13:39:00

no im not jsut flaming fikon.. im really angry because faker has done very much for the community and if u dont respect that go away gorrilas ass..

18/03/2007 13:39:00

s0lid didn't say anything where you need facts, FikoN. stop cocking up fakers leaving, although i think he doesn't care about you. and stop talking BS at all, better be quiet

18/03/2007 14:58:00

good luck for your future life faker, we'll never forget your great job here at xj! Thanks alot for all your work and dedication!

18/03/2007 16:20:00

FikoN: I'm glad I made you lost your motivation (even tho we both know that it isn't true because you had massive problems with other XJ admins and lost your leader position long before I joined the staff or became a leader), because there is no need for such a immature flamer and kid like you. Please grow up and get some arguments before you start dising me again. You never had any good of them, and in the end you just insulted me and OddYsseus which was the reason for you being finally -REMOVED- out of the XJ staff. :) btw: [b]I didn't delete escorsian's account, his name was changed to ChunYuha due to his request in the forum.[/b] Alts!cH: I don't care about you and your opinion. You were a fast jumper (ok, respect for that) who refused to do bhops because you thought they would ruin the game, which was a pretty confusing and stupid argument that nobody seems to share obviously. And you kept clamining that the good old days and the oldschool style without bhops and shortcuts were so much more better, which is pretty unreasonable, too. Why should techniques that require a lot of skills (bhopping) and shortcuts (that are very hard to do in a run) be forbidden? They make the demos sexy and nice to watch. I think everybody agress on that and that was the reason why XJ and its demo section became pretty popular even at times when kzmaps and the demosection (which was down most of the time) was still alive. Ah, I almost forgot about that, you were admin at kzmaps long time ago. An admin who didn't do a shit and contributed to the community a lot!!!!!!! *gg* Once again, think what you want to think, I don't care about you and your opinion. And yes, maybe I've been a bit too hard on some occasions, which could be regarded as a mistake, but that was just because I wanted to get this community a serious reputation and more attention/tournaments and maybe even big sponsors (normal cs gamer still think kreedz gamer are kiddies and that jumping is actually pretty sensless, except of things like the nukejump and stuff). I had no bad intentions about that and I never abused my power. Sorry for the flames, but I don't let ya dis me with lousy arguments in my retirement news.

18/03/2007 16:53:00

FikoN my man, always respected you, cool dude. But that post is mean. I really don't support that statement to be honest. But I still love you, always will. AltsicH, I really don't know what to say, how can you react like that? See all comments in here, everyone is sad that faker is gone, which means people really like him, which means that he must have granted the community a lot of possitive influince. Kind of made me angry, your comment is senseless, mean and naive - Shame on you. This guy has dedicated a large amount of life in this big project called Kreedz jumping, and all you do is being a little ignorant hate sprayer! But at least you could see that faker is a nice guy, and that is good. Because even though he maybe done some bad things, (can't think of any big (other than kicking me :D)) you shouldn't judge him from that. Because if you wanna make a nice cookie, and you take all his good actions and mix them with his bad actions and a little bit of sugar, the feeling in your stomach will still be extremely good, after eating the cookie! Shame on you for not eating the cookie! Eat it! Eat the cookie! Hate sprayer! ...but you are a nice guy... (?)

18/03/2007 17:00:00

...imo they re already drunk n stoned so dont waste time :P

18/03/2007 17:44:00

even tho I didn't agree with all of your decisions (You could've been a bit more open-minded on some occasions), there is no doubt about it you've been of great importance to the XJ community. I just hope for the sake of XJ that someone will take over your "duties", since a lot of people are clearly underestimating the work you were putting in. gl IRL faker :)

18/03/2007 21:56:00

bye bye faker, GL in RL life

19/03/2007 09:01:00

haha lol fikon and altsich u guys suxx:D

FikoN
19/03/2007 17:23:00

boolish. If you can't see my point, think again... faker, you obviously don't know what the situation was like so don't assume anything. And geez. Why the fuck are you guys writing essays to me when all I did was agreeing with altsich? hahah BTW, do yourself a favour. Don't call kz demos "sexy"...

20/03/2007 13:39:00

dirty lil bastard fikon

22/03/2007 18:39:00

Woah, it was so clear. I knew that you %&§$%"§ guy would come up with your opinion being full of stupidness and always trying to be different than the others. FikoN, you seriously should consider changing your attitude towards other persons, even though you do not like them. I mean, what the hell? Why can't you simply say good bye or such? It seems to me that you do not even have moral aspects in your pink brain because you are nearly trying to make everyhing worse and searching for fiends. I am sure you have alot of' em. Greetings to your pink clothes and to your record-book... I am sorry but I can only laugh about you :D

22/03/2007 19:45:00

Stop it, now.

22/03/2007 23:31:00

Corey_Taylor just stfu morron! Agree with OddYssues, stop being assholes yourselfs, geeeZ :/ faker <3 FikoN <3

Corey_Taylor
23/03/2007 00:03:00

faker did the most for XJ, no question. faker mistreated people who did not agree to his opinion, no question. XJ was absolutism, no question. Just take a look into the psyche of a human,... faker did everything in egoism, he wanted acceptance and your respect. He achieved what he wanted to have and it is your fault. I'm glad that faker has left XJ because he could not accept other opinions, he does not know the meaning of the word justice and and because he thought he would be the -king-! Perhaps he did not say it directly, maybe he did not even think about it, but this thoughts took place in subconscious, for sure. I admit that i was wrong as I said "we won't miss you". I want to correct myself and say: I won't miss you! Are you thinking about to punish me? If yes: This would underline my opinion. thx for reading.

23/03/2007 14:21:00

well. I agree with corey_talyor, and I won't really miss him either. Very good points taylor

FikoN
23/03/2007 16:11:00

rayla, the only thing your doing is flaming. You have no real arguments for your opinion. I'm not trying to be different. And I've never been in kz to make friends. This point should be the clearest. I've always treated most people as idiots. Not because I'm a socially retarded person, but because I do have friends in real life and don't need internet friends to feel good about myself. You can complain all you want on my looks and the things I do. As if I'd take critisism seriously from someone who doesn't even know me. And I can only laugh ___AT___ you. lol.. Go to school..

24/03/2007 15:28:00

Corey_Taylor: Good arguments, I have nothing against criticism and arguments. You'd never get banned for something like that. However.. let's discuss. But some words to FikoN and Alts!cH in advance... Alts!cH: Yes, you won't miss me. I can live with that, because you are a nobody. You had a famous name long time ago, even tho you didn't contribute to the community at all, everything you did was making some records and fighting against the bhopping with mousewheel. But bhopping became one element which made KZ famous and took it to the next level. It takes a lot of skills to be a good bhopper and being a good bhopper takes records to the next level, too, because "impossble" times got possible with some spectacular bhop combos. That you refused to do bhops with mousewheel is your right, because you can decide what is good for you as a person - but fighting for a right against the usage of the mousewheel was lame, unresonable and a egoistic (just because you weren't abled to handle bhops). However, nowadays noone of the new jumpers remembers/knows your name and therefore they don't care about your opinion, because you didn't contribute to the community at all (even tho you got admin status again at kzmaps, for some unknown reasons just like friendship or stuff like that). So, yes, you can have ur opinion, you don't have to miss me, but telling it one time is enough. Nobody want's to read it again, so please just shut up. FikoN: It's really funny to see you telling rayla that he has no arguments when you have no arguments to disrespect me neither... so he was just doing exactly the same thing as you did some posts above However.. You always try to act very mature and seriously in the internet, even tho you aren't here to make "friends". This is just all to hide who you really are, a unreasonable kid that is in the middle of the puberty. I can't and I won't blame you for this, everyone had to go through this, but please stop pretending to be a person you aren't. I experience your swings of mood more than once, I had nice and lovely discussions with you and you were very friendly, but as soon as people don't agree with your opinion you started to get unresonable and being offended (and started to hate XJ when your leader position was removed). Once you get older (~18 ages) you might get another point of perspective and see things in another light, and you might be more tolerant towards other ideas and maybe a bit more self-critical. Corey_Taylor: Ok, back to the main part of my post. First of all I have to say that you are the only person who brought up some real arguments against my person and my admin career, which got some true parts, too. Respect for that. "faker did everything in egoism, he wanted acceptance and your respect." That's not true, if I would've done that in egoism I would've demanded to get money or other things, because I spent so much time in this without earning anything. That's no egoism, im sorry. And I didn't want the respect and I didn't do all these things to get respect in the first place, but with good/a lot of works it's just self-evident that there is some respect, too. I just demanded that people aren't DISrespecting me for no reason, because I did a lot of work for everybody without demanding anything, and that deserves a bit respect (no matter what kinda person is doing the work). If you don't see that point im sorry for you... "achieved what he wanted to have and it is your fault." I didn't achieve anything, I just tryed to go on with the project XJ/KZ Community as good as I can and tryed to improve the community and get it bigger/well known. At least, no matter if you like the way I worked or dislike it, the community got bigger and more popular as before. I can't see a "fault" in it. "he could not accept other opinions, he does not know the meaning of the word justice and and because he thought he would be the -king-!" That's not true, all the big decisions I made were "signed" by OddYsseus, the second head admins, and a majority of the other admins. Of course some decisions, especially decisions that had to be fast ones, were made without a voting or admin meeting, but if the staff didn't agree at all they were removed/reversed. And yes, I admit that, I acted pretty unfair and arrogant towards some people, but primarily against people who didn't care about the basic rules at all and made more accounts, kept talking other languages/spamming/flaming all the time. Even tho XJ is a official community and everybody has the right to be part of the official KZ Community (because KZ is open minded and non-commercial) we still have the "domestic authority". We run the whole project on our own severs, to our own expenses, and we have the right to exclude some people that don't fit in the community. That is and was our right, and it's like that in every big Community or League. If you don't obey the rules/law in the real life you will end up in prison, and online the prison is a "ban". That's life. I can't do anything about it that some of you guys are (immature) rebels... Rules/Law is necessary, just face it. "Perhaps he did not say it directly, maybe he did not even think about it, but this thoughts took place in subconscious, for sure" Once again: I just acted like that towars people which were negative/destructive/unreasonable and wanted to destroy the community or were just to young/stupid to be a good member of the community. I wanted to get KZ some respect/attention in the normal and professional CS community. People still thing that KZ is something for kids/retards, and when u check the forums with posts like "CAN U GIEV ME CLIMB CONFIG PLIZZZZZZZZZ. PLIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" I can totally understand them. I just tryed to get kz_ a serious reputation out there, nothing more. It never worked _AGAINST_ the users, and I never acted like a "king" who enjoyed to abuse his powers. As you can see I don't ban people with different opinions, no... I discuss with them. And Im curious to say what your counter-argument will be about.

24/03/2007 15:32:00

nice nice faker, good read. :)

24/03/2007 16:29:00

And sorry for the typos, I typed too fast I guess. *thin[b]k[/b] not thing :D *And Im curious to [b]see[/b] what your counter-argument will be about

Corey_Taylor
25/03/2007 00:22:00

Don't take the thing with egoism too serious, I follow the same theory like Sigmund Freud, who said that every act would be done in egosim, especially such acts. Of course I have not been banned before, there would be no reason for... But I still have two eyes in which I see what happens with XJ, the admins and the members. You did some right things in your carrer as an admin and you did some false things, like every human. But the things which you did wrong were very unjustly. If you put yourself in the persons, who were punished, place, you will realise that it was unfair. It is also unfair that admins vote for everything and every change in XJ. What is about a big survey about something? I'm sorry, but you have left an unappealing impression to me, although I have never been punished by you, so I will not miss you, but I wish you good luck.

FikoN
25/03/2007 00:24:00

"It's really funny to see you telling rayla that he has no arguments when you have no arguments to disrespect me neither... so he was just doing exactly the same thing as you did some posts above" rayla is flaming. If you can't admit that.. well..... Find one quote of me in this discussion where I have flamed someone. Agreeing with Alts!cH doesn't really count as flaming... "However.. You always try to act very mature and seriously in the internet, even tho you aren't here to make "friends". This is just all to hide who you really are, a unreasonable kid that is in the middle of the puberty." You are speaking as if you have experience of me in real life, which you don't. "you always try to act mature yadda bla" What kind of bullshit is that? I am who I am and why the fuck would I try to gain respect on the internet by trying to be someone I'm not? And yeah i guess you can call me a kid, legally speaking. Though I consider myself a youth... Unreasonable? True. Middle of puberty? False. I'd rather say very late puberty or ended puberty. And I think I have more knowledge than you on this point. "I can't and I won't blame you for this, everyone had to go through this, but please stop pretending to be a person you aren't. I experience your swings of mood more than once, I had nice and lovely discussions with you and you were very friendly, but as soon as people don't agree with your opinion you started to get unresonable and being offended (and started to hate XJ when your leader position was removed). Once you get older (~18 ages) you might get another point of perspective and see things in another light, and you might be more tolerant towards other ideas and maybe a bit more self-critical." Once again, I'm not trying to be someone I'm not. And yeah maybe my mood swings (swinged) up and down. I don't mind that people don't agree with me. I just don't find it as correct human behaviour to treat someone with respect that has a completely fucked up opinion. Hence my behaviour. And by participating in this discussion, I'm actually proving my point. We're having a civilized discussion here and you still say that "oh you always flame everyone who doesn't agree with you". And don't try to accuse me of always telling everyone that didn't agree with me that they were complete idiots. Not true... Yeah hopefully I will see things from another perspective when I'm 18. If I don't, it means that I haven't developed as a human being. And stop bringing up bullshit about "loosing my adminship at XJ olol you're just angry about that"... You still obviously don't know the situation so shut it... And yes, I would very much like to be able to treat idiots more tolerantly, but I don't feel I have to be more self-critical. Thanks for the phsycological analyze.

25/03/2007 00:48:00

Yahahar, Show me how you swab that deck

25/03/2007 00:53:00

w00t :O i'd better keep my mouth shut in this discussion, coz i ain't got that good ambiance nor with faker nor with f!kon i think... :D but interesting to read, what you guys really think of each other :S

25/03/2007 00:54:00

Are you seriously not biting you lip all blue while writing this post, I mean COME ON!! "As you can see I don't ban people with different opinions, no... I discuss with them." That's a big step for you.. Seeing how we said that you ban people with opinions that doesn't match your, ofcourse you wonät ban us after that. Then you know you lost. And putting words into my mouth and thoughts into the others of this community about me is real sweet. You really think I was against scroll-bhopping because I couldn't handle it, gosh! Why don't you go ahead and ask someone that actually knows my game..? Cause obviously you never played kz with me. I was against scroll-bhopping cause bunnyjumping with space presents a much bigger challenge. Bunnyjumping with scroll was never really a challenge... It's more like a handcuffed bunnyjump-script and that's why I was against it, but you'll be really, REALLY wrong if you think that I couldn't bunnyjump. Alongside with my bunnyjump-technique that might not have been 100% but it was really good, everyone knows I know how to strafe, otherwise I wouldn't have been the overwhelming leader in longjumping for over half a year after I quit kz. And my speed in jumping I was one the best without saying too much. And that's the whole reason I quit. cups were no fun anymore and recording, well I never liked playing by myself at my listen. The online competition disappeared and if I wanted to play single-player games I'd go by an xbox or a playstation. One more thing, you were never better at me in anything that had with kz to do while I was still playing and you know it as well as I do, even though I think you and I played for an equal amount of time. So don't try to call me a noob in "nice words" and synonyms cause that's just more coward than anything. You call FikoN childish? Than be a man instead and say what you think yourself and stop lying to yourself. And try to tamper with the bolts and screws in other peoples heads. And it's not mature to put words in other peoples mouths and to jump to conclusion and then present to everyone else what a person is like when you don't even know him but it's just the way you think about the cover of the book. But like I said, you like to abuse your powers to stomp on the little guy because you know some people will agree with you just cause of your position when you call me a noob even though you could never have beaten me before when I was playing, and when you call FikoN "immature" and "an unreasonable kid that is in the middle of puberty" - This just proves my point. You don't need to care about what I say or my opinion, but know this. You are the one trying to put labels on everyone, telling the world what we're like when you've never even met us or actually spent time with anyone of us. You don't care about anyone's opinion but... then... Why are you still here!? Your fooling yourself thinking that whatever we say it won't matter to your ego cause it, it bruises your soul even. Cause you keep coming back trying to tell us all the good thing you've done and how you're a "good guy" and we're just trying to fit into your big shoes. I'm just gonna say, you could never match up to either FikoN nor me and don't even bother to try and convince people of that so don't say anything about our game. And you're really not that mature så, keep off that arguement aswell. And don't use comments like you wan't confirmation. "As you can see I don't ban people with different opinions, no... I discuss with them." Cause that is just to try and disprove a point you already agreed on, don't disagree with yourself that just makes you less believable. Anything I forgot...? Just, feel free to fill it in. Oh, and by the way. I will not miss you... Almost forgot

FikoN
25/03/2007 01:08:00

Lol yeah what's that all about? "You never contributed to the kz community". For your information, Alts!cH is the player who beat the longjump record of 244 and increased it to 250 in like a week....

Corey_Taylor
25/03/2007 01:11:00

It is about the character, not the things someone has done, achieved, want to do, etc...

25/03/2007 03:04:00

*Improving my reading skill* :D both sides have their arguments...but that won't change, no matter how much you will write :) Now, when faker isn't an admin anymore, you can say, what you really think about him... and there's one more thing... sure new, young, unexperienced players, which don't have the right overview say "hf and gl in the rl we will miss you you are my idol" ect... but there are many guys who play as long as you altsich and they say positive thinigs about faker, too...you understand what i ant to say... I'm not that long in this community too, just about half a year, but during this time there was no situation, where faker was abusing his power/rights that much if there is a flamer noob, who creates his 12th account (real case.. somewhere in the forum) and he bans him laughing, i can understand it, too.. Also i would like to know if you, if you would have been an admin, acted completely different or in the same way...

25/03/2007 03:08:00

FikoN: 1. A little fixture: *You never contributed to the kz community [b][as admin[/b]]. (@ Alts!cH). I forgot to add the "admin". He did contribute as player because of his amazing LJ skill, you are right with that point. But anyway, he was "idling" on his admin position and didn't do great efforts, you have to admit that, too. 2. "rayla is flaming. If you can't admit that" -> Read my post again, I admitted that he was flaming, BUT I mentioned that you were flaming as well. 3. I won't answer on 80% of your text because you just mentioned several times that you (think you) have more knowledge about puberty than me, and that my opinions are "completely fucked up" bla bla ... That's just a sensless catfight because only "god" knows who's right... However you know as well as I do that I've hitted some wound and true points with my arguments... 4. "We're having a civilized discussion here and you still say that "oh you always flame everyone who doesn't agree with you". And don't try to accuse me of always telling everyone that didn't agree with me that they were complete idiots. Not true... [...] And stop bringing up bullshit about "loosing my adminship at XJ olol you're just angry about that"... You still obviously don't know the situation so shut it... " Ok, lemme tell about some parts of the XJ history and refresh your memory: When I joined the XJ Staff as a new admin you were one of the headadmins (OddYsseus was the Leader, ernstaugust and you were the 2 headadmins). We had wonderful discussions/chats and worked together on some projects. After some time I noticed that there was a permanent flaming/offending between you and Ado/T3d in the intern channel and that you guys seemed to hate each other. In one of the admin meetings the situation escalated. You demanded that Ado and T3d got kicked (out of the intern/out of XJ) but what happend was that you lost your headadmin postion. After that your willingness to work for XJ vanished. Some weeks/months later OddYsseus offered me the position as a Leader because I was working hard and spent a lot of time with admin work. Did you already forgot our discussions where I asked you to get more active again and you told me that you lost the motivation because of what happend in the past. However I/we tolerated this situation (because u still checked the kz_ maps for a long time) and respected what you did for XJ in the past. But then, some time later, you didn't take part in the big decisions/discussions but came online some days later flaming about the new changes/decisions. I really had the feeling that you started to hate XJ/the rest of the staff. This feeling finally turned out to be true after there was as controversial discussion about the Timerbug rule/definition and my dr0_cliffside demo. Finally you told what you thought about the XJ managment: "fuck you OddYsseus and faker, you destroy kz" and insulted me on a personal level "german bastard/idiot". This was the final reason why you got removed out of the XJ admin staff, just because you stopped working for XJ and weren't abled to accept a decision that was made in majority with the rest of the admins (which was "fucked up", too [in your opinion)]. Another aspect/example was the Fps Rules (some of the oldschoolers may remember), which procuded a lot of controversy, because you "abused" the new rule to record some of the affected maps. A lot of people started to hate you and XJ for that, if you don't remember. So don't talk like things were my fault and you are the victim, you know that's not true. People don't have to agree with each other, not even in a team of admins, but at least you should be abled to handle the situation if you are in the minority (it's just democrazy). And you couldn't ... "And yes, I would very much like to be able to treat idiots more tolerantly" Nice reference, but I'm saving my answer for that one :) Alts!cH: 1. "Seeing how we said that you ban people with opinions that doesn't match your, ofcourse you wonät ban us after that. Then you know you lost.". Please don't reverse my words/arguments, cause that's just ridiculous. I never banned someone for having a different opinion or havin some criticism. (H.o.r.s.t. is probably the best example for that one, even tho he had some good suggestions, too). I don't know why you accusing me of this, because it's so obvious that this never ever happend ... everybody who's around here for a while knows that. And about Corey_Taylor... I just mentioned that people like him aren't banned of course, and that this news/comment is just another example that it is true what I've said (even tho everybody should know it anyway). 2. "Bunnyjumping with scroll was never really a challenge". That's just pathetic. You just say that because you never were abled to do good bhops. This isn't meant as insult, I believe you that you were abled to do like 10-15 bhops in a row with mousewheel, that's no big deal you're right, but im talking about bhopping in general, duckstandup-Bhops and things like that. Just watch some of Z0ck3rOO7 or ndR's demos, and you will see what I was talking about. That's just a new technique and a new level of jumping... If you still deny that without knowing what you are talking about I can't take you too serious... sorry (without having seen a demo with awesome duckstandup-bhops [bkz_goldbhop for example]) :) 3. "Alongside with my bunnyjump-technique that might not have been 100% but it was really good, everyone knows I know how to strafe, otherwise I wouldn't have been the overwhelming leader in longjumping for over half a year after I quit kz" I never said that I think you were a bad jumper. U made a lot of nice demos and I enjoyed to watch your Movie and I couldn't believe it that 250 were possible before I've seen your demo. You were one of my "role models" when I started jumping... This criticism is just about your person, your arguments, and your point of views. 4. "One more thing, you were never better at me in anything that had with kz to do while I was still playing and you know it as well as I do" Yeah, that's a reason to be proud of. When you were still playing I just had started kz for some weeks. A really big effort to be better than a newbie. Both thumbs up :) 5. "be a man instead and say what you think yourself and stop lying to yourself." I did say what I really think. Fullstop. And I did it again with this post which should make it clear again. Or are you trying to tell me that you know (better than me) what is going on in my head? No comment to this one... 6. "And it's not mature to put words in other peoples mouths and to jump to conclusion and then present to everyone else what a person is like when you don't even know him but it's just the way you think about the cover of the book" I never judged about you as a person, just about your point of view and the things you've fought for, when u still were an active member of the community, such as to forbid bhopping with the mousewheel. And I judged about your admin postion which u nerver deserved imo because you didn't do anything apart from being a good jumper. 7. "But like I said, you like to abuse your powers to stomp on the little guy because you know some people will agree with you just cause of your position when you call me a noob even though you could never have beaten me before when I was playing, and when you call FikoN "immature" and "an unreasonable kid that is in the middle of puberty" - This just proves my point." When did I abuse my powers? Can you list some examples? I can't think about one single occasion. No arguments without evidence... You should've learnt that in the early classes at school. However... I'm no XJ admin anylonger, and I REALLY ENJOY WRITING MY OPINIONS HERE without having fear to damage the reputation of XJ, because I'm just a normal user and everything I'm saying is just my responsibility now. 8. "You don't care about anyone's opinion but... " I never said that. Just read my post again. I just said that I don't care about your opinion because I don't have any respect for you as a person/admin. Of course I do care about everyone's opinion (except of some exceptions), if I wouldn't I never had spent that much time to run this community and try to make everyone happy. Oh, and by the way. I will not miss you either... Almost forgot

FikoN
25/03/2007 03:46:00

1. Right... 2. Still, find one example of me flaming in this discussion. kthx 3. lol. I said that I think I know in which stage of puberty _I_ am. I wasn't comparing your and my knowledge of puberty in general. wtf does that have to do with our discussion? And I never said that your opinions are fucked up either. Maybe you should work on your reading. 4. ...... Let me give you a history lesson instead.. T3d and Ado were flaming me because they were both unable to speak english and didn't like the fact that they both HAD to speak english to make a good example for the users. They ignored this rule even though both me and oddysseus told them to stop. They flamed me continously in the chatbox, forum, on irc for several months. Oddy didn't want to kick them out because they were honor members and had meant so much for the community before. I ignored them at first but I got enough when they had been spreading false rumours about me to other users. I have a very good reason to not like t3d and ado. I also had a very good reason to demand them to get kicked out of XJ because of their behaviour. And when oddy decided that he'd rather have 2 flaming, rule-breaking idiots in the admin staff than me, I lost my motivation. Quite understandable if you ask me. The rest of your story is mostly true. Except for the fact that I didn't abuse this fucking rule. Where the fuck did you get that from? I was the one who spanked eme's ass at ezjungle with like 4 seconds when he had 62 average fps and I had like 95... Don't give me that bullshit. And stop making things up. I never said that I was a victim. Besides, your arguments for the rule about timer bugs makes no sense. You specifically said that 1 second was acceptable for 2-3 minutes long maps. But a one second timer bug wasn't a real one second timer bug. A one second timer bug could be anoything between 1.0 seconds and 1.9 seconds. Why? Because in Counter-strike, there are no hundreds of seconds. Yeah.. that makes sense. And you know what happened? In this discussion, when I realized that I couldn't convince you, I tried to make you change the rule so that this was clear and no one could misunderstand it as I obviously did. But you refused to do that too. That and the fact that I didn't play kz anymore, made me flame your ass. "Nice reference, but I'm saving my answer for that one " I'm not even refering to you.......

25/03/2007 04:00:00

glatzkopf

25/03/2007 04:05:00

omg! i think this isn't the right place to dicuss/flame about such things! open a forum thread if u want to argue -.- i don't know faker that good, because i am relatively new in the kz_world, but i believe the MANY guys who said that he did a very good job here! there are 35,000 registered users here and what do u guys think would happen, if everyone would do/say/post/spam what he wants?! maybe there are cases in which he made a wrong decision of kicking/banning etc someone, but this is human! and why the fuck are u talking about your über skill here?! that has nothing to do with this news and it doesn't make u a better human than the others here! ...my opinion... (sry 4 da bad english)

25/03/2007 04:19:00

FikoN I don't see why you're flaming faker when it was OddYsseus who kicked you out of the staff... And in my shortish time as an admin, I found no problems whatsoever that involved faker, apart from him speaking German all the damn time :D You did little to no work in that time (you checked a few maps), but why can't you just accept a decision and move on? Do you HAVE to have power to be able to work and still contribute instead of just coming up with discussions about the silliest things ever? You're flaming about faker's dr0_cliffside demo and the supposed timer bug in it. Albeit that there is a 120 min viewdemo time, there is apparently no timer bug in it, but you continued to flame and flame about it. No offence to dropsys, but dr0_cliffside is one of the most unplayed maps in the demo list. Is it really that important to have to insult faker about it? Maybe I am being defensive of faker, but even though he has done things in the past that have made me wonder whether I'll talk to him ever again, I have the ability to forgive, forget and move on. That is a quality that will get you far in life. Maybe you should learn that and stop arguing about stuff that happened a year or more ago. You are quite a cool person when you don't act like a complete bellend

25/03/2007 04:31:00

2. "Why did you remove escorsian's account? Does everyone have to honor faker as he's leaving? Fuck that" That's sensless flaming imo because you blamed me for things - that didn't even happen - without knowing or trying to know the facts. It wasn't as hard as rayla's flames, but it was still flaming. 3. "And I think I have more knowledge than you on this point." - " I wasn't comparing your and my knowledge of puberty in general" Pretty contradictorily, isn't it? "Maybe you should work on your reading" Maybe you should work on your arguments and on putting them into the right context. 4. Well, that's your version of the story. I agree with you on the point that they were speaking german pretty often, but they told me a lot of things about you and what you did what was pretty mean, too. Once again you make yourself look like the victim who got "downgraded" from headadmin to normal admin for no reasons, but that's not true. And ye, I have to admit that I mixed things up, it's pretty long time you know. You didn't abuse the new rule to make records, you just fought for the FPS rule to make some of the demos, which knocked out your old times, disappear. And people started to hate you/XJ for that, they said "whenever someone breaks FikoN's demos there is a new rule agains those new demos. That's ridiculous." If you want I can search for the old news to prove it :) "And stop making things up. I never said that I was a victim" I'm not making things up. It's more than obvious that you meant it that way. About the timerbug: You didn't just "misunderstand" the rule and asked me to change it, you kept claiming that it was unfair and bullshit, even tho it was decided with a majority. And you kept claming that I just were exlcuding myself (and my dr0_cliffside demo) to gain an unfair advantage, just because my dr0_cliffside record was hard at the limit towards a timerbug - even tho we decided the timerbug limit long before I checked all the demos for timerbugs and long time before I knew that my´cliffside demo might be affected. "I'm not even refering to you....... " Of course you aren't......... Im outta that discussion now unless you bring up some real and good arguments instead of that catfight and bullshit, just like calling me a Glatzkopf" (= a german word for "skinhead" or "nazi") Mr. Alts!cH (?????) aka "the unreasonable". Good night, good fight.

FikoN
25/03/2007 19:15:00

soul|ftw, faker has brought up every single thing thing that we're discussing here. "FikoN I don't see why you're flaming faker when it was OddYsseus who kicked you out of the staff..." I'm not flaming. It doesn't matter wheter or not he kicked me out of the staff since I stopped contributing weeks ago at the time. Doesn't matter who kicked me out or didn't either. I was aware of the fact that I would get kicked out when I acted like that. "You did little to no work in that time (you checked a few maps), but why can't you just accept a decision and move on? Do you HAVE to have power to be able to work and still contribute instead of just coming up with discussions about the silliest things ever?" I don't need power. But I need to feel that the work I'm doing is actually worth something and is going in the right direction. And both faker and oddysseus were obviously unable to satisfy me on that point. "You're flaming about faker's dr0_cliffside demo and the supposed timer bug in it. Albeit that there is a 120 min viewdemo time, there is apparently no timer bug in it, but you continued to flame and flame about it. No offence to dropsys, but dr0_cliffside is one of the most unplayed maps in the demo list. Is it really that important to have to insult faker about it?" Once again, I'm not flaming and I did not bring this up. faker did. According to how I understood the rules, it did have a timer bug. faker didn't want to make the rule more clear either so that's why i flamed him back then. "Maybe I am being defensive of faker, but even though he has done things in the past that have made me wonder whether I'll talk to him ever again, I have the ability to forgive, forget and move on. That is a quality that will get you far in life. Maybe you should learn that and stop arguing about stuff that happened a year or more ago." Once again, faker has brought ever single thing up that we are discussing right now. 2. I might as well say that all your typos are flaming as well and all the things that you have understood wrong in this discussion... 3. hahahah.. no.. I think you should work on your reading.. Read what I wrote again and you must understand that I was meaning my own stage of puberty and not puberty in general. 4. ehm? I wasn't "down graded" from headadmin. If you remember, the head admin status was completely removed from both me and ernstaugust. Why? Because t3d and ado wasn't satisfied with me being a head admin. Why? Because I came with the idea that XJ should be international and fought it trough even though most of the admins were against it. That is why t3d and ado flamed me all the time. I put up with their flaming for many months. Me and oddy told the several times to stop. I put up with things like this: [link=http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/325121125/ado2.JPG]1[/link] [link=http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/8579b1107/ado3.jpg]2[/link] , same occurence as pic 1 [link=http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/30dcf1138/ado4.jpg]3[/link] , same occurence as pic 1 and pic 2. Oh, I blocked his post! I must be a racist... [link=http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/c35901103/ado5.jpg]4[/link] , Ado was bored in the middle of the night, so he thought, "hey! Why not kick FikoN.. Seems like fun." [link=http://www.imagewoof.com/view_image/db7e41127/ado6.jpg]5[/link], Ado Q-bans me in oddysseus channel. I put up with bullshit like this for months and you still say "oh your just trying to manipulate us to think you were a victim...". When I got enough I told oddysseus to choose between me and ado & t3d. He said he'd come up with a solution. The solution was to remove mine and ernst's head admin status. Now, let me see your examples of me flaming ado and t3d. As if you have any... Yeah, I remember that everyone thought that I suggested to make the fps higher in demos because my demo was beaten. And I remember that it was when eme broke my ezjungle demo that triggered it. So what if that triggered it? Almost everyone think it's a good rule today. I was and have always been a hated admin. I didn't care much about that but the only reason everyone said that I wanted that rule because he beat me, is that they saw their chance to flame me and they took it. Of course I got angry when he beat my demo that I had spent very much time at and at my one of my favourite maps, with much less bhops than me. At least I think that it was obvious that the only reason he managed to beat my demo was that he had lower fps than me. That's how I saw it then and that's how I see it now. I found that unfair, so I suggested this rule. Besides, some days later, I beat his demo even though my demo was put back up... Just to make clear that I didn't feel that I was beaten and unable to beat the demo back. But everyone still thought that I did it because of the reason I said before. "About the timerbug: You didn't just "misunderstand" the rule and asked me to change it, you kept claiming that it was unfair and bullshit, even tho it was decided with a majority. And you kept claming that I just were exlcuding myself (and my dr0_cliffside demo) to gain an unfair advantage, just because my dr0_cliffside record was hard at the limit towards a timerbug - even tho we decided the timerbug limit long before I checked all the demos for timerbugs and long time before I knew that my´cliffside demo might be affected." As someone once said: "Well, that's your version of the story." I wonder who that might've been....... And does it make you feel better to end every post with "bring up some real arguments or I'll stop answering you"? My arguments are very real. Why are we discussing me? I thought this news post was about you..

25/03/2007 19:47:00

I don't wanna join this shit but.. I can confirm that t3d spoke german in XJ mainchat @ mIRC. So FikoN actually got a point there. I can also confirm that t3d & Ado started to dislike FikoN after XJ become international. You can actually say they started to pick on FikoN which is not the way you do as a XJ-Crew member. But faker one thing I can't understand is that you talk about FikoN's age. Does that matter? NO, it doesn't. FikoN is young, yes. So what? FikoN is much more mature than other people in here, that is even older than him. It's almost as if you're trying to say that FikoN is worth less than you because he's younger than you. Ofc FikoN makes mistakes.. But hey! That's human.. Everybody does wrong. This was just my opinion. And you both got a point in what you're writing. And this is really offtopic. And 1 suggestion: Create a damn edit-button @ comments, too. So annoying to scroll up and look for faults/if you forgot something.

25/03/2007 20:02:00

Ado's behavour was bad, fikon's right with that... (mine as well... but i changed, a bit :D)

25/03/2007 22:38:00

Good I've read all your comments. AltsicH starts this discussion by saying that faker handles his admin rights wrong. FikoN supports that statement, faker protects himself and answeres very openminded and cool, even though he answers a person that really hate him. Thumbs up faker. Suddenly the discussion takes off in some completely other matters than the startingpoint. So before this discussion can continue, the people against faker needs to find some arguments on, that FAKER is the bad guy. And please stop pretending like FAKER attacks you, (ex. AltsicH saying he is a better jumper - Dno where that came from).

25/03/2007 22:42:00

lol i ust reallly spent alot time, but i did read all this discusion between u :) i wont sa anything, just that faker has donated such a long time, work, and hasnt earned anything, omg evry1 should respect him for that like i do <3

26/03/2007 14:29:00

scary got a point, you guys are writing like 5 word pages so far discussing almost everything but not that what you accused me in the beginning: - To be a "dictator" who abused his admin rights and "been using your motivation to alter people's state of mind like a neurotic shrink". When did I abuse my admin rights and when did I forbid them to express their own opinion? Can you give me an example or two, because I really can't remember one single occasion? But I guess you can't - [quote]Because you are so quick to block and ban people who express their opinion and it doesn't match yours.. guessing you will do the same to me[/quote] Once again, your accusing me of something which isn't true. I never blocked posts with different opinions or criticsm. If you think I did please give us some examples or proofs (no arguments/accusations without evidence). - [quote]But if I was so motivated I wouldn't put my motivation into fucking with everyone and abuse my powers to ruin all the freedom and the other good things about kz! I'm amazed that such an idiot was left with so much power for so long time. I mean besides the fact that you are a fucking idiot, you are quite a nice guy![/quote] That was just offending/insulting without real arguements or evidence/examples, too. I just stepped on to the next step of talking about your faults in the past (with evidences and conret arguments) because of your inability to give some real arguements and evidence instead of stupid accusations and flaming. Now, 5 word pages later, we've talked about almost everything except of your accusations. And you still haven't given even one single argument or occasion that would prove your accusations. And yes FikoN, I know that Ado and T3d flamed on you pretty often and spoke german just to provoke you, but I talked to them a lot and their behaviour had a reason. They loved to provoke and diss you because you've treated them like shit since the very beginning. At least thats what they said to me. I won't answer to the rest of the arguements, because they are just your point of view and stand in no context with the accusations you put up against me in the beginning

FikoN
26/03/2007 18:23:00

I'm assuming that the first part isn't meant for me, since that would classify it as bullshit and completely illogical. "Now, 5 word pages later, we've talked about almost everything except of your accusations. And you still haven't given even one single argument or occasion that would prove your accusations." Then stop bringing things up and describing them in a completely false way. "And yes FikoN, I know that Ado and T3d flamed on you pretty often and spoke german just to provoke you, but I talked to them a lot and their behaviour had a reason. They loved to provoke and diss you because you've treated them like shit since the very beginning. At least thats what they said to me." Bullshit. They began every single fight we ever had. "I won't answer to the rest of the arguements, because they are just your point of view and stand in no context with the accusations you put up against me in the beginning" As if your arguments are any different.

26/03/2007 18:58:00

[quote]"I'm assuming that the first part isn't meant for me, since that would classify it as bullshit and completely illogical."[/quote] It was meant to both of you, but especially to Als!cH (should be pretty obvious because I quoted his sentences.) But it was meant to you, too, because you stated your agreement on (all of) AltsicH's accusations in the very next post. Why is it completely illogical and "bullshit" to try to direct the conversation back to it's origin - your accusations about my "terror reign"? [quote]"Then stop bringing things up and describing them in a completely false way."[/quote] I started brining things up (against you) because of your inability to bring things up against me; things that would prove and justifyyour accusations against me. And im still waiting..... And... My descriptiosn were very true. [quote]"Bullshit. They began every single fight we ever had."[/quote] /Irony ON/ Bullshit. They said that you started to hate them. And I rather believe 2 people instead of one guy... Why should they lie? /Irony OFF/ See? Let's stop the catfight, only god know how's right.... [quote]"As if your arguments are any different."[/quote] With one slight difference: I didn't accuse you of anything in the first place (not even back in the days when you retired and insulted me and oddy in a very unreasonable way...) You just used my retirement to spread some shit and disrespect, and that was lame and childish. If you were a real man, you would've posted all the criticsm and stuff back in the days when I still was an admin. amen

FikoN
27/03/2007 00:25:00

1. jesus christ.. as if you didn't understand that altsich was flaming you. He exaggerated some things as well. But some things are true. 2. You also failed to accuse me correctly about things I've done. So both of us obviously failed on this point. "And... My descriptions were very true." This makes me think of a certain qoute... "Well, that's your version of the story." 3. No. I know that I'm right. I was involved. You'll be have to take my word for it. BTW, I understand irony so stop trying to declare me an idiot by making it extra clear that you're using it. 4. The reason you didn't accuse me of anything back when I flamed you and oddysseus was that you were busy Q-banning me, removing my admin status and ignoring me on IRC. I never spread "shit". I did agree with someone who did though. If I was a real man? Well, if that's your opinion of how a man is defined, fine with me. I have other criterias though.

27/03/2007 00:34:00

CooL down boys :/

27/03/2007 17:41:00

[quote]If I was a real man? Well, if that's your opinion of how a man is defined, fine with me. I have other criterias though[/quote] So you would define somebody who's full of negative thoughts and criticism for months , but isn't saying a word, and comes out with all of it when it's too late it and things are "done", as "real man"? I would say that this is acting like a coward/child and can be regarded as pure flaming instead of real and helpfull criticism. And I think most people will agree with me on that point :) Well... finally... this was my very last comment ... AMEN

FikoN
28/03/2007 23:26:00

hahahah you seriously think that AltsicH was trying to help you to be a better person by posting that. hagaga... "So you would define somebody who's full of negative thoughts and criticism for months , but isn't saying a word, and comes out with all of it when it's too late it and things are "done", as "real man"?" Nope. For starters, how can you ask of me to behave as a real man when I'm only 16 years old? You've always been saying that I'm young and childish before so I don't see the logic. Secondly, where would I post that? You think I should've started a forum thread in public offtopic named "I think faker is an ass" and flame you there instead? Third: I didn't care enough to tell you anything back then, and I frankly don't care now either. I'm just having fun. 4. I don't remember critisicing you now either. 5. "when it's too late and things are done"... As if you would've changed, if I would've told you what AltsicH told you now. And jesus christ, we're not trying to help you be a better person. We are just telling you to fuck off one last time before you leave, simply because we enjoy it so much.

29/03/2007 16:36:00

[quote]hahahah you seriously think that AltsicH was trying to help you to be a better person by posting that. hagaga...[/quote] No FikoN, I know AltsicH flamed me because he is a unreasonable and retarded fag. And I was having fun too, to show that he (and you) are just talking bullshit/flaming without having real reasons because you are unreasonable kids. All I wanted to say with that sentecne is that if you/he were a real man you should've done it when I was still an admin. And if your motives were "noble" ones you should've done that when I was still an admin, too, because then there would've been some clearance for improvements. But as a conclusion I can say you are just flaming, childish and wack flamers. I don't give a fuck about both and you and I don't give a fuck if you tell me to fuck off or not. Get a life kid

FikoN
30/03/2007 19:58:00

so much for your "very last comment".. haha you're finally showing some emotions. I always thought you were unable to do that as the socially retarded person you are. I already answered to all the points you're making, so I won't bother again. Yes, I'm just flaming. Yes, maybe I'm childish, but after all, I'm just 15, don't you remember? And wack? I don't really know what that means but I'm sure it's something really mean.. I'm afraid to look it up in the dictionary because then it'll maybe hurt my feelings :( If you wouldn't have given a fuck about me and altsich, you wouldn't have spent a total of about 3-4 hours answering our "childish" comments. I do have a life. The reason I spent all this time answering your post is that you're spreading propaganda about me and how I've acted troughout my adminship in XJ. Besides, I never said I have a life. You claimed to have one in your retirement post, yet you sit here and spend many hours on posting comments to people you think of as complete idiots... "I won't have much time to spend in front of my computer in the future anyway." oooooookidoooooooki.

30/03/2007 20:22:00

[quote]so much for your "very last comment"..."[/quote] "Sorry" for the ability to overthink my decisions and change my mind. I do whatever I think is the best for me. Get used to it. [quote]If you wouldn't have given a fuck about me and altsich, you wouldn't have spent a total of about 3-4 hours answering our "childish" comments[/quote] I don't give a fuck about your opinions. But I do give a fuck if some wannabes come and disrespect me in my retirement news, so I just replied to show (successfully) that you are just some unreasonable kids and retards without any good arguments against me. And btw... I had fun doing so, too. And once again... Why do you care about how I use my time? Answering to the bullshit you write doesn't even take 1/20 of the time I spent for the community when I was still an active admin. Cause you obviously weren't abled to understand what I meant to say with "get a life" I'll make it a bit obvious this time... Go to hell (ah... before you start agan to come up with some childish arguments like "get a life and go to hell is pretty contrary" ill make it even more obvious: FUCK OFF KID :) ) Amen³

30/03/2007 20:32:00

Arguing is something people will never get tired of...

FikoN
30/03/2007 20:37:00

"Sorry" for the ability to overthink my decisions and change my mind. I do whatever I think is the best for me. Get used to it." Good for you, I guess? "I don't give a fuck about your opinions. But I do give a fuck if some wannabes come and disrespect me in my retirement news, so I just replied to show (successfully) that you are just some unreasonable kids and retards without any good arguments against me." Let me rephrase that for you: "But I do give a fuck if some wannabes come and disrespect me in my retirement news, so I just replied to show ([b]unsuccessfully[/b]) that you are just some unreasonable kids and retards without any good arguments against me." "And once again... Why do you care about how I use my time? Answering to the bullshit you write doesn't even take 1/20 of the time I spent for the community when I was still an active admin." I still don't see how that defends the fact that you're lying about having a life to feel good about yourself. "Cause you obviously weren't abled to understand what I meant to say with "get a life" I'll make it a bit obvious this time... Yes, I guess that it was extremely stupid of me to assume that you meant exactly what you said. How completely illogical. And I don't think I'll go to hell, sorry. What I do know, though, is that you will end up in hell. Why? Because that is where bad people end up. BTW, I understand that you're trying to imply that I'm a God by ending all your messages to me with "Amen", but you better stop that before someone who actually believes in God gets offended.

30/03/2007 20:47:00

hahah just laughing about the bullshit you write. Provoking, lying, talking bullshit. That are your skills. Im out of that kiddie shit now.

FikoN
30/03/2007 21:09:00

Oh stop it... Now when where actually having a "cat fight", as you have been claiming troughout the whole discussion, you leave. :( You're right. I'm quite good at provoking, obviously better than you, since your leaving the discussion. Saying that this is kiddie stuff, and giving that as a reason to leave, is just an excuse for being speachless.

30/03/2007 21:36:00

You are just not my level FagoN. Why should I waste my time arguing with a little stubborn child? If it's fun for you to have the last word... please

FikoN
31/03/2007 01:12:00

Since we are now using each other's nicknames, I guess I'll be have to call you fakker. You're right, why should you argue with me? There's no point. And since you're obviously not able to pwn me, there's no fun in it. So there's really no purpose in writing to me. Dear fakker, just to tell you one last time, feel free to fuck off at any time. And, if your so much better than me, prove it by giving me the last word. lolkthx

31/03/2007 09:14:00

ahahahh it has been great time to watch your conversation and laughing my ass off :) you both look pathetic, fighting like 6year-old kids from a candy...

FikoN
31/03/2007 16:41:00

And you seriously think that I haven't been laughing my ass off as well? And I'm sorry, but I'm not from "a candy"...

31/03/2007 20:23:00

good for you if you have, smartass...

FikoN
01/04/2007 01:06:00

Oh, stop calling me things :( Or maybe you'll lower yourself to my level and get a bad reputation on the internet. :((

01/04/2007 02:28:00

Truly honorary members!

01/04/2007 03:25:00

soul is jealous nico is teaser fikon is funny faker is controversial and water is wet :P there should be DSB for this like in WTO ahahahah

02/04/2007 23:03:00

faker>fikon&altchih or watever it is get a life,even if u are or were pro,you are still children,and that is something u cant hide,just because everyone can read the posts,and finaly realize that U 2 damn animals have big ideas for yourselves,but you are nothing faker,has not a big idea for his selfe,but even if he had,this guy has DONE SOMERHINGS,HAS RAISED THE LEVEL,and thats why guys like fikon mas shut the fuck up,faker is a good man,at least,he has proove that to me,the rest of u go to hell niconen <3 :D

FikoN
03/04/2007 00:29:00

haha the difference between me and faker is this: faker is grown up. Grown ups are always acting mature. I'm not grown up. I'm acting mature when it suits me. I don't really see how everyone keeps pointing this out and thinking it would hurt my feelings or think you can pwn me by saying it. I am exactly what I'm supposed to be, and I'm glad I'm not as mature and civilized as grown ups are. That's fucking boring. what makes u think I have a big idea for myself? haha. Besides, I've also contributed, perhaps not for as long or much as faker did. We'll never know who spent more time. And I just saw that you registered 130 days ago, which means you have not been active during the days I was active. So for you to even speak of me as you know me or know anything about me, is ridicolous. Btw, it wouldn't surprise me at all if you aren't familiar with who I am.

07/04/2007 18:16:00

To all those who don't have any clue of what FikoN did by the time he was active should shut their mouth - Because he actually also did alot for the whole KZ community. Though I still doubt that he has contributed more than faker. Throughout the whole discussion I think faker won it. My reason is that I think FikoN took his anger out on faker, instead of the men behind his anger, who were, in my opinion, Ado and T3d. But I also think that faker didn't show FikoN enough respect in the last parts. Understand me right. Faker is truely good at arguing, and that can easily corrupt minds which haven't been involved in any of FikoN's honorable times. But I think you FikoN should give a little respect to faker too, here in his retirement post, because I think it's very sad that he will remember his retirement as a big discussion about if he did great or not. I also think that FikoN and AltsicH should have taken this up in a different time. But sshh people, FikoN have been one of the best jumpers in the world, he have taken jumping to another level. And when he were on his top, he were faster than a0ke. (Both not good bhoppers). Pay respect to the legends dudes.

FikoN
10/04/2007 19:38:00

My anger...? This has nothing to do with ado and t3d. faker brought that up because he thought I was unable to bring anything up against him. And faker won the discussion? What discussion? I think you're counting in my flame posts that I posted in the end. The only thing we actually _discussed_ was me, my adminship and problems concerning my adminship. faker didn't win that discussion, and that was, and that was the only discussion I was serious about.

18/04/2007 14:02:00

omg! "cant read all this shit" this is not a worldwar you both discuss about! or your best friend did bang your girlfriend or something like that!! thats an online community! act like matures! shake your hands and finish it! have a nice day!