8 New Demos

By stukad Tournament #1·
Dujes

cg_nowhere done in 03:46 ( n/a )

k3G

suk_desertblock done in 03:49 ( 04:02 k3G )

m4gDan

kz_xj_mounthard done in 02:26 ( 02:37 thopa )

Mooney

kz_minimountain done in 01:33 ( 01:36 DHT- )

sh4rk

j2s_sandland done in 04:15 ( n/a )
kz_exodus_hard done in 06:51 ( n/a )

zhady

kz_man_terablock[easy] done in 06:08 ( 06:26 zhady )

Z0ck3rOO7

kz_exodus_ez done in 02:40 ( n/a )

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roblagger
29/03/2007 01:18:00

nice demos!!

HoHo^
29/03/2007 01:19:00

zhady :Ö:

soul v2.0 mapper
29/03/2007 01:21:00

DUJEZ :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

maxeh
29/03/2007 01:21:00

maxeh! :D:D:D

Chrizzy mapper Tournament #3
29/03/2007 01:22:00

Dujez D:D:D gj all

Volsfootball
29/03/2007 01:23:00

gj peeps, great times.

thopa
29/03/2007 01:27:00

Very high quality demo Dan. Its great to see all big scs in one demo <3 Nice zhady! From the place where u get to the 'hard' part of the map you are ~3 seconds slower than a0ke to finnish; you can beat him!

roblagger
29/03/2007 01:32:00

oooooooooo good demo btw m4gdan :)

roblagger
29/03/2007 01:33:00

Thopa: isnt that big jump to the pillar sc possible?

faker mapper
29/03/2007 01:49:00

Nice demos. Haven't seen one of them yet. *downloading*

¤ syKotic ¤
29/03/2007 05:00:00

gj Dan, knew you could do it!! nowo gogo 2:1x! xD

mtpika
29/03/2007 06:18:00

amazing demos!!!

z10
29/03/2007 06:55:00

gj esp zhady

Jurpo
29/03/2007 07:17:00

:DD GJ dujes :O

drewbie mapper
29/03/2007 07:32:00

amazing m4gdan =o

AverageFreak
29/03/2007 08:20:00

:o zhady

.FLIPSYDE
29/03/2007 08:38:00

zocker bhop monster gj!

KNiFEAR
29/03/2007 09:45:00

hmm i recognize Mooney from back in the days or something:D gj :D gj all:D

smallmuck
29/03/2007 09:52:00

GERMANY

hiGGe
29/03/2007 10:34:00

m4g o.o and DujeZZZ =D=D=D

sambb
29/03/2007 10:45:00

gj all esp. Dujes :----DD

zhady Tournament #2
29/03/2007 11:14:00

thopa, i've done 0415 2 times now :F

DaMp mapper
29/03/2007 11:59:00

nice dems :)

crossbow
29/03/2007 12:14:00

GJ all very nice times

Scary Tournament #2
29/03/2007 13:04:00

Very good demos all! sh4rk are a new upcomer? I think so dude. Wow minimountain beaten with 3 seconds! Crazy bob! I love this sentence, esp. by faker: "Nice demos. Haven't seen one of them yet. *downloading* " Almost thought that faker could see demos, without even watching them!

Scary Tournament #2
29/03/2007 13:04:00

By the way, welcome back Dujez, long time no see!

BooLiSH
29/03/2007 13:53:00

Veryy Nice <3

Z0ck3rOO7
29/03/2007 14:27:00

gj all, 2 new germans...gj :D

pHs^
29/03/2007 14:50:00

GJ Mooney

OddYsseus
29/03/2007 14:56:00

Mooney, old school baby.

tjubby
29/03/2007 16:06:00

Gj mooney. zocker did exodus_h in 3 min on public so watch out sh4rk :P

ufui
29/03/2007 16:11:00

ger ftw :d gj guys

Z0ck3rOO7
29/03/2007 16:54:00

hm, 137min viewdemo time, i would say it is a timerbug, but dunno^^

spolix
29/03/2007 17:37:00

gj all esp. mooney

maniac
29/03/2007 18:04:00

gj all! ...nice stuff! :)

wima
29/03/2007 18:44:00

lol gj, the oldsql mooney ? wow looong time not seen.

DHT- Tournament #1
29/03/2007 18:57:00

HAHAHAHA!! Nice timerbug!

tarGet
29/03/2007 19:06:00

idd long time no see mooney.. where is ur other demo ?? :O but gj all ! nice demos

Max:
29/03/2007 19:12:00

gj Mooney, sh4rk and Z0ck3rOO7 :P ofc all others too

nizheradze
29/03/2007 19:30:00

yeah there is a little timerbug on minimountain, but there's lots of demos with timerbugs and noone cares

faker mapper
29/03/2007 19:55:00

Nobody of you guys seem to understand what a timerbug is about. EVERY demos has a time shift (difference of the _REAL_ time and what the ingame timer shows) of 1-2 seconds. A little example with kz_minimountain: DHT-'s old demo (with a low viewdemo time) got a timeshift of 1,1 aka 1 second. Mooney's demo (with a high viewdemo time, which could mean that it is timerbugged) got a timeshift of 2,9 aka 2 seconds. 2 seconds is still a normal timeshift and no timerbug (for maps under 2 minutes). The number behind the , (2,[b]9[/b]) doesn't matter at all because the timer doesn't know if it's 2,000001 or 2,99999999. He'll show 2 anyway. Another example: Mooney submitted a demo on kz_boulder_b01 long time ago (I think it was 05:37). It had a high viewdemo time (1xx:xx) and a timeshift of 10 seconds (=timerbug on such a small/average map) and wasn't accepted therefore. I know this is pretty confusing and complex to understand (they asked me to help them with these demos yesterday, that's why I'm informed), but please stop complaining/flaming unless you know the facts or have understood what a timerbug is about :x

nizheradze
29/03/2007 20:52:00

I disagree, i like to divide a map in sections and check how long it took to someone to do certain section and compare with mine or someone elses time and I 've rarely seen timeshifts in demos that starts < 60, and I check with my watch demos that start after 60 minutes to see how big the real timerbug is. Your problem faker is that maybe you rely on fps-death to determine timerbugs, and from experience I can tell it is inaccurate(at least public version it is) oddy's old record on aqualand had like 7 seconds timerbug, and a0ke's old demo on parblock(05:37) had a 20 seconds(or 30 can't remember right now) timerbug oh and im not flaming/complaning you had to check hundreds of demos and maybe you missed a couple, anyway i didn't lost a record because of a timerbug so i dont really care.

sambb
29/03/2007 22:54:00

imo Mooneys minimountain.dem should be removed. 2 seconds "timerbug" is still too much for a ybershort map like minimountain. ---> veeeery hard to beat w/o using same servertime or maximum timerbug allowed... In this case, simply just way too short map, but its only my opinion :)

elITe^
30/03/2007 00:52:00

Nice times ALL! m4gdan, cheater! :P dujeSSSSSSSSS!! yo mate, long time no see :) <3 Welcome back Mooney :) I remember you, but you don't remember me ^^ Last time i saw you was 2-3 years ago :E N1 sh4rk.. keep em' coming :) zhady & zocker, stop using h4x FFS :( <3

elITe^
30/03/2007 00:54:00

forgot 2 say, sorry for DHT's demo, not fair imo but who am i 2 judge ~_~

faker mapper
30/03/2007 02:00:00

nizheradze: [quote]oddy's old record on aqualand had like 7 seconds timerbug, and a0ke's old demo on parblock(05:37) had a 20 seconds(or 30 can't remember right now) timerbug [/quote] haha, they definitely hadn't. I still have the files on my harddisc and rechecked them, there are _no_ timerbugs. I guess you measured it wrong/inaccurate with your clock/tool and I can assure you that fps death is working 100% correct. sambb: The thing is that a normal timeshift is a normal timeshift. A timeshift of 2 seconds can happen with low viewdemo times, too (as it happend with DHT's old demo - he had a 1 second timeshift, too). Therefore it would be unfair/not right to remove demos with a normal timeshift just because the viewdemo time is too high (not every demo with high viewdemo times got a timerbug!) Hope you guys understand it better now.

zhady Tournament #2
30/03/2007 10:30:00

"there are time shifts of 0,1-1 seconds on small maps (under 2 min)" I read that Mooney had 2,9 timerbug...If u dont think about the 9, it's still a timerbug if we follow; "What is a "timerbug?"" Found another thing to... cg_coldbhop_kimo_0028 -> Realtime: 00:30 Why does it say Realtime 00:30, when its really 1.99 timerbug, and as you said the numbers behind , doesn't count. The record is under 2 minutes, so I don't understand how this demo got removed.

DHT- Tournament #1
30/03/2007 12:18:00

faker I did my old @ 1 try oO so I can't understand how I got a "bug". and btw.. will be hard 2 beat this minimountain demo cuz of the bug.. maybe I should be uber lame, too.. Leave the server for 2h and then start recing -.-

faker mapper
30/03/2007 13:04:00

cg_coldbhop was a special case because that map is so extremly short and it usually has a timeshift of max. 30 secs (none). 2 seconds timeshift are [b][u]NO[/b][/u] timerbug. That's the definition which was made long time ago. Mooney's demo contains no timerbug therefore. Maybe you think that's unfair, but the rules were set like that long time before because a majority of the admins thought that these limits would make sense. Why do you even discuss with me since I'm no admin anylonger and I don't have to decide what happens to the demo or if the rules need a change and bla bla

DHT- Tournament #1
30/03/2007 13:21:00

if you ask me this rule is _SHIT_. You shouldn't accept demos which contain a timerbug over 1 second. I don't say this only cause' Mooney did a better time than me... It's unfair overall. The reason: It'll be hard to pwn it back. when the current demo got a timerbug. But yeah, it's senseless to discuss this since XJ won't remove all those demos -.- So "GJ" mooney!

regalis
30/03/2007 13:30:00

gj @all shark: nice start :) Z0ck3rOO7: very nice bhop-action! Looking forward to see more demos from you :) greetz regalis

sbzvln Tournament #2
30/03/2007 13:34:00

gj zock

zhady Tournament #2
30/03/2007 13:43:00

Why I discussed this with you was because as I see it you've made these decisions. Imagine yourself as a newcomer who finally did a WR, he signs in to Xtreme-jumps and looking at the rules, and he's like hmmm? What is a timerbug? He finds the answer in FAQ. He had 2.9 seconds timerbug on a >2 min map so he deletes his demo. How professional does this look like when the rules isn't true and the only person who knows it is an admin who can say whatever he want... ( I'm not saying that you're doing that. ) Update the goddamn rules so the users know them too and not only 1-2 people.

faker mapper
30/03/2007 14:13:00

DHT-: You still haven't understand it. A timeshift of 1-2 seconds is absolutely normal and can happen on every time (with low viewdemo times, too). It's just because the Kreedz Timecounter doesn't work accurate. So even if the server is running for 5 minutes you never can know if there will be a timeshift of 1-2 seconds or not. If these demos wouldn't be accepted, just imagine what would happen to recording: You just have to have luck and have a run without timeshift. If you have a good run and bad luck - and a timeshift of 1-2 seconds - and your demo won't be accepted (even tho you have had the server running for 5 minutes) you will be very mad, too. That's just sensless.... Believe me, we discussed that topic a lot in the intern and even tho the solution isn't perfect (because the only perfect solution would be to create a new, and better timecounter, and "remake" all the kz_ maps with the new timecounter. but that's just....). And about the rules: If it is really that hard to understand the rules for you they should be changed. I agree on that point. Ima suggest it to stukad and the crew as a friend, but it's their decision now so you better should talk with them, too. peace out

zhady Tournament #2
30/03/2007 14:42:00

"If it is really that hard to understand the rules for you they should be changed." It's not hard for me to understand "the rules", I understand every single word about "What is a timerbug?" in FAQ. That's that. I can't understand the rest of the rules tho, because I can't see them.

loty
30/03/2007 16:32:00

GJ all :) For me the best timer is the timer by SoUlFaThEr, you can play 1 hour, 2 or 3 ...= no timerbug. (new rules: use the timer by SoUlFaThEr on all news maps) ;)

elITe^
04/04/2007 02:23:00

word loty. maybe someone can make a nice timer? :E