A new kz map, kz_sandblock2

By kz`Moxx mapper·
It's been around 3 years since kz_sandblock got released, who would have thought it was going to be one of the most played kz maps of all time.

When it was released it was the hardest kz map ever created. Even legends like T3dBundy couldn't do it easily, and it came to be a revolutionary step
in kz history, and it changed the jumping difficulty of maps allover forever. It also increased the jumpingskill of each individual player.

I remember back in the days when we had to make the mapsubmission demo, ut took us pretty much 2 hours to complete the whole map... Haha, good times, good times.

Now it's time again, yet another revolutionary moment in kz history, sandblock part 2 is getting released. More beautiful and harder than ever, this is a real challenge.

<03:06:55> [Z0ck3rOO7] cant do the first jump :F
<03:07:05> [Z0ck3rOO7] havent played since 2 days and wanted to check it again
<03:07:10> [Z0ck3rOO7] but didnt made the first stage
<03:07:16> [Z0ck3rOO7] so i closed cs and visited some friends xD


Get part 2 of this revolutionary map in the downloadsection: kz_sandblock2

Have fun playing it, and hey.. Dont destroy your equipment!

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05/01/2008 21:59:00

nice :o btw if zocker cant first jump what about me? :(

05/01/2008 22:01:00

pooor, poor zocker :D

05/01/2008 22:01:00

heeheh gj :D [i][/i]

05/01/2008 22:02:00

gj Kenny

05/01/2008 22:04:00

Can't wait to try it out :D

05/01/2008 22:06:00

Great job Moxx & s0liD :-)

05/01/2008 22:07:00

Zocker is a huge noob! :D

05/01/2008 22:07:00

Sorry about that, the link works fine now :)

05/01/2008 22:07:00

glhf

05/01/2008 22:08:00

hahaha sandblock2 FTW!

05/01/2008 22:12:00

GJ Moxx ;) and Solid

05/01/2008 22:12:00

And no, no healthcharger, autoheal!

05/01/2008 22:13:00

Well done moxx and solid, done a great job on this map!

05/01/2008 22:13:00

you see..zocker is german :P

05/01/2008 22:15:00

nice map!

05/01/2008 22:19:00

gj ;D;D;D

Fact or Fiction
05/01/2008 22:21:00

hmm looks sweeeeet :)

05/01/2008 22:22:00

Nice work Moxx & s0liD :) It truly deserves to be sandblock2. Nice jumps. Good job guys <3

05/01/2008 22:26:00

Really nice map :)

05/01/2008 22:31:00

I liked playing this map a lot... with hook :)

05/01/2008 22:34:00

leftstrafers map!!!!

05/01/2008 22:45:00

nice map fo sho :P the fps sucked hard on sandblock but on this i i'll have 100 @ home :)

05/01/2008 22:46:00

omg really hard map :S

05/01/2008 22:46:00

Imo, this map should'nt never be named "sandblock2", and if you name it with, it should have even same textures as the old one. Raped version, good map though..

05/01/2008 22:53:00

nice jumps, nice textures, nice details but not for me...fuckin hard :(...waiting for ez version.....GJ both and Z0ck3r007 gogo :D

05/01/2008 22:53:00

very nice map, but it's a real pity that it's made for maybe like 0.01% of this community. it's not fun EVEN with checkpoints.

05/01/2008 22:56:00

245 hj o_O imp for ppl without good cj skills ;)

05/01/2008 22:57:00

i'll check this out, it has to be a nice1 :) btw zocker go for it =D

05/01/2008 22:57:00

Jesus, you gotta be kidding :D. It took me 54 mins to finish this map and i could barely do 3/4 of all jumps. This is stuff for the real freaks :). But good map for sure.

05/01/2008 22:59:00

Im really waiting for a EZ vesion. THis one is pointless for me. Anyway, the map looks very nice, fps 100 everywhere, wonderful job!

05/01/2008 23:02:00

with checkpoints its doable for me ... but w/o cps it will only be possible to finish the map for 2-3 ppl (imo)

05/01/2008 23:02:00

[b]OMG s0liD, You're KING[/b] Of course [b]GJ MOXX[/b]

05/01/2008 23:03:00

btw, sandblock has been released last year :S I joined the community 3 years ago and that was the time of helferlein and the XJ1 movie. Sandblock came years later.

05/01/2008 23:03:00

very good map :D for uberp0wners :D

05/01/2008 23:03:00

Nice map, though it doesen't look like sandblock, at all. Took me about an hour with 138 checkpoints. xD Maybe the first WR of this map will be teh first in history, that's more than one hour long. :D

05/01/2008 23:06:00

damn it's so damn hard ! i'm excited about the wr for this hard map!

05/01/2008 23:10:00

[ProKreedz] chrizZo [ins] has been reached the target in 48 minutes and 49 seconds with 165 checkpoint :(

05/01/2008 23:12:00

I get this fatal error when i try to test the map: LoadTGA: Only type 2 and 10 targa RBG images supported..

05/01/2008 23:12:00

[quote=kreedz.com]kz_sandblock & kz_sandblock_ez Hi Here's a new block level from Moxx. The regular version is the hardest KZ level ever made, only try it if you're besides the best jumpers in the world :P else, try easy version :) Written by: Kreedz [b]Thursday 04 August 2005 - 22:28:18[/b] Comments: 7[/quote]

05/01/2008 23:16:00

jeje nice im gona try it! sandblock is one of my favourites maps so i think this one will be great..!

05/01/2008 23:16:00

well well okay I appologize but its still 2.5 years :D

05/01/2008 23:23:00

1 hour map :D

05/01/2008 23:24:00

mapping rules say: Keep in mind KZ maps are meant to be played without checkpoints. Please make sure your map is jumpable without the use of checkpoints. Also jumpable with usp or knife. GREAT MAP though :D :D

05/01/2008 23:25:00

looks awesome :)

05/01/2008 23:27:00

1337Yard The man who finish this without cp´s is a KZ-GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! This map ia hardcore

05/01/2008 23:31:00

I cant play the map becouse of the fatal error... help :S

05/01/2008 23:33:00

nice looking map ... gj both

05/01/2008 23:36:00

WELL, I did the first JUMP!

05/01/2008 23:41:00

me too :D and tha second!!! am i the kz-god?? xD

05/01/2008 23:45:00

OMG NICE, must check it out, and WTF if z0ck3r cant make 1st jump /finish 1st stage omg.. and does it really envolve 245 hj? o_0 real challange for T3d !!! just dont think he would try just cuz of the 245 hj LOL :) GJ :)

05/01/2008 23:57:00

Sweet :)

06/01/2008 00:02:00

who cares a easy 245 cj ... its one of the most easyest jumps there :D ps did the whole map in 34mins haha

06/01/2008 00:06:00

That's wierd c0ld^, noone had that error before :S Did you try to redownload? Maybe your file got corrupt or something when you downloaded?

06/01/2008 00:12:00

wanna see some projumper recording this map ^^ gj moxx and s0lid for making this map

06/01/2008 00:25:00

Ahaha can't wait to play it (or to hook it :P) Gj guys ;) This is truely a nice challenge

06/01/2008 00:29:00

hm sry i dont like it.. feels like a lj / cj map with blocks.. good longjumpers will like it, the rest cant finish it.. btw.. 245 hj ... wtf..

06/01/2008 00:32:00

imo, the most interesting jumps in this map are the longjumps =.= and good luck for the wr ;o) but gj for mapping it! :D

06/01/2008 00:53:00

fucking ridiculous... but I still love it ";G"

06/01/2008 00:58:00

i have done the first 4 jumps !!! :D

06/01/2008 01:01:00

Really nice map, with nice details ! Had to laugh when i saw that "shit" list at the 245 highjump :D, nice idea

06/01/2008 01:09:00

hmm the design is a success in my opinion but the rest just sucks i just played the map and only a fraction of the jumps are hard. the rest is easy lj stuff which u can do with 2-3 strafes. and the "fraction" is nearly only possible ith cj. e.g. the 245 hj is the hardest jump in the map imo. and i have to say that im a quite bad kzreedzer atm, i have really big problems doing a 245 lj and i did each lj in the map, but not all cjs[3 jumps(coz im a too newby for them, or wait i never tried cjs, hmmm)] when i read all the stuff in the comments i just have to laugh man :D if u read the comments u will notice why theres nobody who will beat the map in an acceptable time in the near future >>only flaming new generation cj noobs<< :) btw the first jump is possible with a pre dunno wheres the problem zocker but nice fake-iview ;> 2/10

06/01/2008 01:14:00

gj Moxx and s0liD for the wonderful map! I hate that 245 highjump tho, cause COUNTJUMP SUXXXXX :) I pimped the news a bit, hope you don't mind^^ Looks better now imo, with the <> and [] bug fixed ^^

06/01/2008 01:17:00

i RLY suck at rightpre, my sync is nearly always under 20, and because i didnt played since 2 days my feeling is also shitty, so i think its ok that i didnt made the first jump :P i'm sure it will be the same as on sandblock, first comments "OMG THE MAP IS WAY TO HARD, WE WILL NEVER SEE A GOOD RUN THERE", look now, there is a ubertime at the record section :P its just a question of time until we will see a good run on this map :) gj Moxx and s0l!D

06/01/2008 01:23:00

insen kill yourself..

06/01/2008 01:26:00

btw insen... all jumps can be done with lj (did them), except the 245 hj ^^

06/01/2008 01:30:00

haha insen youre talking about "the flaming new school" and youre flaming at every sentence in your post... and sry no, this map is not "easy" like you say. haha ">>only flaming new generation cj noobs<<" this is über funny , respect !

06/01/2008 01:31:00

@ heat: no why shall i kill myself, i dont to commit suicide. i just wrote my opinion and what i think about this map thats what wrote >>only flaming new generation cj noobs<< u r one of the flamers i guess @ zocker: na dont think so sandblock with para(already made it) is in comparison to this map a bit easier(with knife for sure), like i said the ljs are not the problem only the cjs, but i guess im just to nooby coz i dont really play kz anymore, probably some cj geeks can do it quite easy

06/01/2008 01:34:00

gj mapper :D

06/01/2008 01:35:00

>>only flaming new generation cj noobs<< u r one of the flamers i guess u: Joined 05/22/05 - 14:39:33 2 years, 7 months, 2 weeks me: Joined 02/05/05 - 12:39:23 2 years, 11 months im the new generation... nice

06/01/2008 01:36:00

hmm faker i hope so^^^^ like i said i have probs with a 245 lj and most of the stuff i cant do has a right pre which is my bad pre and chrizzo look at your id 25101 hmm u know everything about the earlier times ;> i dont know what u want, im just ideling in this community be cause my kz time is over, the rest has no meaning for me man, im just posting here for fun to read posts like yours, thats quite funny :D

06/01/2008 01:37:00

omg Insen...

06/01/2008 01:43:00

ye lets start a flamewar, 0ldsqL vs. n3wsqL >_>

06/01/2008 01:43:00

it seems to me that youre the one who flames here... and not the new sql cj noobs like you said... Im just reacting like this because im new school too, but im not a flamer cj noob. and I never said that im old school wtf ? why should I know anything about the old times... I never said that. Should I say now : youre a >>only flaming old generation lj noob<< thats just dumb, like your flames

06/01/2008 01:44:00

so nice.....

06/01/2008 01:49:00

when u think that u r not one of the person i try to describe then i dont understand why u are writing here ;> its correct also oldsquler do crap just forget that sentence if you r not able to understand the meaning behind this evidence

06/01/2008 01:53:00

"when u think that u r not one of the person i try to describe then i dont understand why u are writing here ;>" To say that not all new schoolers are like this and you cant say "the new school sucks" like I cant say "the old school sucks" . thats why im writing this...

06/01/2008 01:59:00

ye sure u are right i hope this is settled now i never write much tough i want to say much, thats why some people may misunderstand something ;P indeed an edit- or a delete feature would be great :D

06/01/2008 02:08:00

round 2 :D

06/01/2008 02:45:00

It sure was something to play this map. The most interesting thing about this map for me, was that sandblock was a "checkpoint" in time, when it was released 2½ years go. Back then the comments were from players like FikoN and T3d, who at that time were the some of the best players, even they had big problems with the map. Today most players can beat sandblock, a true KZ'er wont have big problems with the map. So now, in my eyes, we've made a new checkpoint, a way to document the progress that KZ players have had in the latest 2½ years. And who knows, maybe we will see a perfect run on this map one day. Even though I doubt it. But so did all with sandblock. The questions is, will this be the impossible map? Will it be impossible to make a flawless run? It's up to you guys :)

06/01/2008 03:02:00

As I asked on mIRC: do u think anyone will have the courage to try an eb on the stairs from the balcony to make a perfect run?

06/01/2008 03:20:00

As I asked on mIRC: do u think anyone will have the courage to try an eb on the stairs from the balcony to make a perfect run? me :P wonderfull map gj moxx and solid

06/01/2008 04:00:00

I dont get whats the point of making maps if only 2 or 3 people can finish them. They're just goin to never be played again.

06/01/2008 04:04:00

Nice map :).. Too many left strafe-jumps for my taste thought :(

06/01/2008 04:06:00

http://xtreme-jumps.eu/comment.php?comment.news.79

06/01/2008 04:08:00

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=top15sandblock2cy4.jpg <3

06/01/2008 04:17:00

after playing it, I have to say that in my opinion, this map is completely overhyped. This is not a "revolutionary" new map, it's just a damn hard (sometimes too hard) map with some really nice ideas, I guess, but most of the time it has just a huge amount of simple longjumps. I for my part can't recognize the old sandblock feeling but I'm really looking forward for the coming demos :) 7/10

06/01/2008 04:38:00

a nice map! but it's too difficult for a rookie

06/01/2008 05:39:00

hahah Moxx... brian ownd us all :(

06/01/2008 07:46:00

hraaar gonna pwn it! ...someday ;D

06/01/2008 11:12:00

ph nice hard map :) but I doubt I can finish it without checkpoints :/

06/01/2008 11:23:00

map maybe looks good :)gj .but the difficulty is xtreme :(

06/01/2008 11:24:00

i'm totaly agree with insens commentary, all thinks he wrote is true. but s0liD got again my respect for the map because he did the whole design(Layout Details!) and only Moxx did the easiest work (placing the jumps) s0liD you did a great work and Moxx you too !!! New kreedz generation = flamers

06/01/2008 11:26:00

Nice map but very hard :)

06/01/2008 11:40:00

i totaly agree with sc0utter but solid and moxx did a great job

06/01/2008 11:40:00

cool map, but its nothing like the first sandblock unfortunately

06/01/2008 11:45:00

I've Done 3levels with cp ;D. Xtreme map

06/01/2008 11:51:00

Keep in mind KZ maps are meant to be played without checkpoints. Please make sure your map is jumpable without the use of checkpoints. ^^'

06/01/2008 11:52:00

im gonna PANE this map

06/01/2008 12:07:00

@Volfsfootball "I dont get whats the point of making maps if only 2 or 3 people can finish them. They're just goin to never be played again." I dont know, but i think this map will be the most played map like it kz_sandblock was :)

06/01/2008 12:09:00

comment #100 aiight this map was really nice :D took me forever to complete it tho.

06/01/2008 12:13:00

OMG GO ! Nice s0liD and MooxärN !

06/01/2008 12:27:00

ah and btw the map isnt bad maybe some ppl think that coz of my rating it just has nothing to do with sandblock, its a totally different map and imo it doesnt deserve the title sandblock2 because of several things, thats why i rated with 2. without the title it would be 7/10

06/01/2008 12:29:00

That 245 hj should be like 247 lj or 250 lj(even its easy). Imo there isnt no sense why do people do maps for cj'ers..

06/01/2008 12:56:00

the pple who say this map will be ez in future like normal sandblock map.. are wrong in my oppionion.. sandblock was released 04 .. 245? lj was there uber.. now we are in 08.. i think the limits are reached nearly.. i dont think some1 will do 260 lj in the next years.. so why should this map get easier:D

06/01/2008 13:08:00

you can improve your prestrafe :D

06/01/2008 13:20:00

cj is an longjump element like bhoplj and hj too so if you dont know how to do it sc0utter then im sorry for you .. as a good kreedzer you should learn all things jumping elements and stuff ..

06/01/2008 13:29:00

+1 @ sc0utter

4`Ce
06/01/2008 13:38:00

AAAAAAAAA <3 sandblock i still know when it got released

06/01/2008 13:45:00

haha i havn't really played in 2 weeks or so, but now i have to:D

TankiaN
06/01/2008 14:24:00

brian is he best he will do it btw i went to the balcony part for 1 hour :DD

06/01/2008 14:27:00

This sounds crazy :P Gotta check this one out... THX for taking the time to make maps guys :D

06/01/2008 14:44:00

[blockquote] the pple who say this map will be ez in future like normal sandblock map.. are wrong in my oppionion.. sandblock was released 04 .. 245? lj was there uber.. now we are in 08.. i think the limits are reached nearly.. i dont think some1 will do 260 lj in the next years.. so why should this map get easier:D [/blockquote] imho remo is right

06/01/2008 15:10:00

GJGJGJGJG

06/01/2008 15:25:00

totally agree @ sc0utter , insen , demolite.

06/01/2008 15:44:00

you've allways been willing to learn new styles, now, where theres a map, where u need to cj, u just dont want anymore? Oo i thought i cant do this jump either but after a few tries i got 252 on stats. i think its good that they included such a jump, its new now and standard in a few months..

06/01/2008 16:01:00

WOW!!!!NIIICCCEE!!!!

06/01/2008 16:01:00

really hard map but really nice I don't play about 1 month but i can reach level 6 on this map with this sh*ty comp :D GL brian !!!

06/01/2008 16:11:00

Who are you Insen to say if this can or cant be named sandblock2? Moxx is the creator of sandblock and he can named hes another map sandblock3 if he wants. And if it deserves the name or doesnt you dont even have the right to open your mouth.

06/01/2008 16:29:00

word s0liD.. :)

06/01/2008 16:56:00

Take it easy guys. Just give the map a few months and most people will be able to beat it without checkpoints with a decent time :P <3 Moxx & s0liD ..gj guys!

06/01/2008 17:21:00

dude, that the worst thing I have ever seen. U copied my map kz_kzsca_pyramid, same models and textures.

06/01/2008 17:57:00

lol yea, this map looks more like a kz_kzsca_pyramid2. With another layout (a real sandblock layout) and without these weird, easy parts(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/421/easy1mb9.jpg, http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8586/easy2ty1.jpg and http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7721/easy3uh8.jpg), it would be a great map. Why so easy? And that red room on the first pic doesn't make any sense to me. :S

06/01/2008 18:13:00

Xaser I never copied anything from your map not even textures lol :)

06/01/2008 20:15:00

gj mappers! i must try it :D

06/01/2008 20:32:00

cool post :) [b]Dont destroy your equipment![/b] Useful words for kz players :D

06/01/2008 20:45:00

nice

06/01/2008 20:59:00

i did that first jump

06/01/2008 21:08:00

PuppetZ^, i think the point of the easy jumps was sort of a 'relief zone"

06/01/2008 21:30:00

Hmm .. You can do that after your run, IMO. :P

06/01/2008 21:35:00

@ chrizzo: [ProKreedz] samy has been reached the target in 4 minutes and 49 seconds with 0 checkpoint XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

06/01/2008 21:45:00

chill... a new map is good thing and remember first Teds words on kz_sandblock "this map makes me feel like a noob" maybe it was sandblock where Ted learned good ljin xaxa

06/01/2008 22:31:00

finished it in 32 mins whit alot of cps:P GG on the map. its a big challenge ;)

07/01/2008 00:08:00

Havent really had the chance yet to play it properly, but it seemed like a cool map. Reckon its not that revolutionary as it is made out to be though. Agree with you on the cj things InseN.

07/01/2008 00:12:00

[quote=solid]Who are you Insen... yada yada...and if it deserves the name or doesnt you dont even have the right to open your mouth.[/quote] He has the right, like everyone else here, to say his opinion and you can nothing about it. Moxx can name his maps however he wants and we, the community, value it afterwards. Fullstop

07/01/2008 00:43:00

common people give it a change I bet the record will be under 30 mins before the end of this month. I really like this map great work

07/01/2008 01:14:00

gj mappers insane map

07/01/2008 01:41:00

btw wheres the fucking end lol...

Fact or Fiction
07/01/2008 02:52:00

245cj is like 240lj, am I wrong?

07/01/2008 02:54:00

245cj is like a 254lj

07/01/2008 03:06:00

kz_sandblock(1) > kz_sandblock2 , cuz 1st version was hard and speed map and that was cool :) . I like your maps and kz_sb2 is great map but really hard and "slow" . ( sry if my english is bad :D )

07/01/2008 05:14:00

Wait for easy then :P

07/01/2008 08:56:00

really good job moxx and solid, thge map is great but unbeatable for me....hope the easy version is comming out soon :)

07/01/2008 09:37:00

Yes you can say your opinion horst but you cant do nothing about the name.... so its pointless

07/01/2008 11:09:00

Most commented news ?

07/01/2008 12:13:00

no pulsar

07/01/2008 12:17:00

so the easy version will be like the old sandblock :]

07/01/2008 12:52:00

I guess ill wait for the ez version 2 :) Although this map is cool to train my strafes etc... I remember when ppl said 250cj-253cj is like a 245 lj. Thats why the removed that section right? So why is everybody whining about an easy 245cj now...

07/01/2008 13:18:00

Not everyone can cj akM...

07/01/2008 13:59:00

That's why you gotta learn it. You can't do 240 without strafing, so you gotta learn to strafe. You can't really do 245 hj without cj, so you gotta learn to cj. Just get used to it. By the way, I like the map personally because it's so fucking hard. It will be a decent challenge for all pro players and the demos are "easy" to improve, because you fall so much. Just geek it and you will get less falls :P

07/01/2008 15:23:00

I don't agree that 250 lj would be better than 245 cj. Even 247 lj.. If you just try to cj, you can get 245 on stats after 20-30 mins, and a little bit more time and you can do the 245 on block, especially that theres a lot of space on sandblock2 to prestrafe on that hj.

07/01/2008 15:41:00

sorry that I was a bit harsh s0liD but your post made me angry. I'm sure InseN just wanted to say his opinion but it is pointless to discuss about pointlessness when you consider that the half of the forum is about nonsense :D Let us put it down now :) <3 Let us look forward to the easy version.

07/01/2008 15:49:00

totally agree with H.o.r.s.t. |01/06 - 04:17 completely overhyped. because it's deifinitively not a new revolutionary hardness factor. map looks nice, but imo it has nothing to do with "sandblock-the-original-and-revolutionary-map" The red area and the other "inside-up" jump part are much too easy for the idea of this map ;) anyway. it's nice to play the map :)

07/01/2008 17:33:00

The red part is supposed to be easy, That's the point..

07/01/2008 18:02:00

dont lie zocker -.- u havent friends :p

07/01/2008 18:28:00

yeye the EZ version would be nice, lookin foreward and [color=#ff0000]245cj is same as 245hj, 245 bhop and cca. 255+ lj[/color] so by current wr in lj, hj, bhop its un-jump-able => only cj makes the trick...

07/01/2008 18:57:00

its meant for countjump of course, and if i can make it... anyone can make it... therefore anyone can make it :) great map moxx, although i still havent beat it from start to finish.

07/01/2008 20:25:00

just dont think u can put like 235 hj or something at ez version ! it like 220 hj MAX !\ allowed !!!! omg :/ :)

07/01/2008 23:31:00

no! :B 230 and jump backwards ;)

08/01/2008 08:33:00

cmon 245 cj.. that's so ez . Just train ur cj's

08/01/2008 09:04:00

rable!! Rable!!!

08/01/2008 11:46:00

The ez version is hopefully going to be very easy *cough* *cough*

08/01/2008 12:58:00

at the ez version like 235 hj?

08/01/2008 14:37:00

cool

Mr.Jumper
08/01/2008 17:28:00

the ez part should be like the ez part of mineblock. but i still prefer the normal version of sandblock2. its nice, but some jumps sux, that is true and i like the new layout of the map. it gives me not the old feeling of sandblock, but a nice new one. and i wouldnt call it as a revolutionairy map... for me is cg_extreme the "revolutionairy map" cg_extreme2 would be nice. the blocks on this map are better made and there are a lot of hard strafejumps and much jumps on each stage, thats nice :D

08/01/2008 18:47:00

as milion others.. GJ.. n1 map, description extreme has it meanings... =-] gl jumpers.. btw.give some money to those.. who record a wr on this map :)

09/01/2008 04:20:00

dont remember who said that 245cj is like 254 lj =s thats not even near to be truth, im jumping since like 3 days after kz_sandblock was released, and im used to make ljs, i thought cj sucked hard when i fist try it, but hey, now i can make 253 or 254cj without much effort, so doenst matter if oldsql are used to lj and says that cj sucks, just practice it and u will get the feeling of it just like i did, and i really mean what im going to say, 245cj is as easy as a 220lj

10/01/2008 20:10:00

waiting for the world rec demo :D

11/01/2008 10:36:00

What Im saying is 245hj is like 254 if you would jump it normally, without CJ

30/12/2009 22:44:00

zoker my idol