kz_creek updated

By faker mapper·
Dear ladies and gents,

due to some unpredictable problems with the new kreedz timer raver had to replace it with the old one.

Therefore kz_creek got updated!

Please make sure you download it again to get the latest version.

Note for the mappers: If you want to use the new timer make sure you read the documentation and get it to work. If you need any help im sure you can ask Shizuka or SadPuppy ... If you try to use the timer and you don't know what you are doing, you could expierence lags or FPS problems in your map.

Thanks for your time and sorry for the inconvenience caused (esp. those who tryed to record the map).

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raver mapper
08/05/2008 19:47:00

hf reccing :)

KNiFEAR
08/05/2008 19:47:00

roger. ;) btw, there's a small spelling mistake in the begninig. ;)

faker mapper
08/05/2008 19:48:00

lol a funny one actually ^^ thanks

KNiFEAR
08/05/2008 19:49:00

hehe yea. :D

kropeq
08/05/2008 19:51:00

Yeah :) GJ again

akkord mapper
08/05/2008 19:53:00

mkey good to know

Trinitron
08/05/2008 20:02:00

yeaH! gj :)

padnaliQ
08/05/2008 20:03:00

good work ;)

dEMolite mapper
08/05/2008 20:05:00

sorry but that sucks really first with clair, where JuHmp was so pissed off that he didn't want to release the fixed version and now this one which is 2weeks out is now being updated with more then 500 downloads (with the downloads from other kzrelated communitys) suchs maps should be denied from the start because the rule said the standard kreedz timer should be used no custom timers. (but someone changed it?!). The mappers should be treated like other mappers!

BooLiSH
08/05/2008 20:14:00

for those who like the map it's worth downloading it, if you don't wanna play it they don't download it again...

raver mapper
08/05/2008 20:23:00

ah just stfu demolite when do you ever quit being on xj

Distt
08/05/2008 20:28:00

we never needed another timer in the first place. raver, take you flames to 4chan

raver mapper
08/05/2008 20:34:00

Its not a flame, demolite is just talking bullshit

raver mapper
08/05/2008 20:35:00

He thinks he is the man but infact he comes with very bad ugly maps. And always have his excuse to not release them or not to finish them.

kropeq
08/05/2008 20:37:00

Ye custom timer sucks! kz_kzsca_cons timer sucks............. :/ :/ :/

puppetz mapper
08/05/2008 20:41:00

lol raver .. You want him to do like you, to rip off textures and models from normal CS maps, and make them boring KZ maps?

dEMolite mapper
08/05/2008 20:41:00

haha raver i am spending more time and try to make my maps perfect and as far as i know from you: You can't make a map yourself because you quiting the projects and ask other maps instead for a unfinished project to finish it to get famous with it. And you are acting like your brother sbvlnz. And btw why did you flame me? I didnt even flame about your map in the first comment so. As far as know too you are talking bullshit. This is my lasted comment on this news. Hate it flame it or fuck it.

omilo
08/05/2008 20:51:00

I guess the timer needs some more tweaking...I know SadPuppy will love working on it (maybe not) :P

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
08/05/2008 21:03:00

I don't think I've ever disagreed with dEMolite :/

ehlak
08/05/2008 21:06:00

Gj

StoneCold mapper
08/05/2008 21:57:00

too bad! we need a new official timer, the old timer use to many functions/enities

Mentalo
08/05/2008 22:05:00

yea! so finally this gay timerbug will be fixed!

Distt
08/05/2008 22:14:00

XJ should just use a timer plugin..

bl1zZ
08/05/2008 22:34:00

i think its better if there is only one timer which mappers should integrate in the new maps now. the timer from sadpuppy

Pf0llz0r mapper
08/05/2008 22:38:00

I've said it before and I say it again dEMolite for president!

SadPuppy mapper
08/05/2008 22:58:00

I disagree with Omilo in that the timer needs tweaking. I would claim the mapper/user need tweaking. And Omilo would have found any major bug like that since he betatested it...as well as when he betatested Godspeed, easy Corruo and hard Corruo. Right Omilo? =) Raver....oh dear. Where shall I start? Raver totally re-skins our timer without knowing what he is doing. The timer is properly documented on our forum and if you are going to skin the timer you should know what you are doing. Also, jumpers as well as mappers should read the readme file included with our maps. It states that if you are gonna geek the map you should make sure to let the timer initialize itself properly each round which may take a second or two. If you ignore that and press the start button WITHIN a few seconds after map restart, it may be buggy. And if you record a WR and find the timer leaves you with 0:00:00 showing then don't come crying and blame the timer. If someone finds a bug which can be reproduced with the original files released, used properly as described, then we have a bug we can look at. Regarding Raver; if he makes changes he should TEST that the timer still works properly. It is neither our fault nor responsibility if not the original is used. This goes for anyone tampering with the timer, this is nothing personal against Raver. Since the timer has been used with Godspeed, Corruo easy and hard - and noone reported any bugs (apart from one instance where Omilo geeked a map) you will need someting to back up accusations of the timer not working. Kreedz is behind the timer and for all practical purposes it is the new official timer. As such it should be recommended to be used instead of as Faker wrote "use the old, original Kreedz timer for your maps". I assume it was a case of bad judgement and jumping to conclusions though, and I trust Faker will rectify that statement. I want to stress the importance of checking the documentation if you want to skin it or replace buttons etc. And if you do stuff to it, do TEST it. "The new timer seems to cause several problems (lags, fps problems and other major problems like showing 0:0:0 all the time)." As is clearly stated in the documentation, the timer uses sprites as the digits. If you as mapper place a lot of sprites in say an open area without proper visblocking you could get lag and fps drops of course. Blame the mapper for that 'feature' - not the timer. The "other major problems" indicated you will have to elaborate on since we are not aware of them.

lalevUl
08/05/2008 22:59:00

May this be the problem why I cant play this map? I have such massive lag on this map that its not even worth playing.. Maybe this will do it, sounds crazy but hopefully.

pacMan mapper
08/05/2008 23:13:00

u speak shit raver :/ demolite ftw

BooLiSH
08/05/2008 23:58:00

love n' peace guys... you all talk shit just chill

hybrid
09/05/2008 00:05:00

word pacMan

clair mapper
09/05/2008 00:46:00

raver why do you try to get so personal when you flame? demolite never called you a bad mapper, he was simply complaining about the process. then you go and say he sucks at mapping and should leave XJ? way to be a dick. well, time to go update the server files, and at least it got fixed.

PepoMerca
09/05/2008 01:25:00

finally :D

_LcR
09/05/2008 02:46:00

nice

faker mapper
09/05/2008 03:46:00

Well Puppy, you are right. My judgement was based on the feedback I got from a lot of mappers who failed to use the new timer in their map properly. They moaned about FPS problems, lags and other problems. This was just an assumption, didn't want to judge your timer. The newspost is updated, should be fine now I guess.

oP^
09/05/2008 07:40:00

gw ^^

Mantaz
09/05/2008 12:37:00

Why do we need a new timer ? Old one is just fine....

SadPuppy mapper
09/05/2008 15:03:00

Thanks Faker.

DaMp mapper
09/05/2008 15:29:00

uiiii too much to read to bad that i was like 1 month inactive now i see something like that and without so know something only with reading the posts i must say word demolite ^^ and i'll never use the new timer because i only want to build a every good looking map in future with only a .bsp file wich can be used easily on LANs and stuff so u won't send a looooot of things to others that really sucks and a plus for the old timer is that u only have to copy it out of a rmf pase it in and there u are ... it's so fuckin simple perheps i'll use the other timer when i make a new cupmap with two timers the old and the new one...

RIKZ
09/05/2008 15:47:00

nice works

NeMiQ22
09/05/2008 17:36:00

This update is really nice job because I wasn't able to play this map due to uber lags. Now it's OK. Thanks.

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
09/05/2008 17:41:00

Word DaMp. The old kreedz timer is the best! It's simple and fits to any theme. Well anyway, I do NOT want to wait 1-2 seconds for the timer to start working in the beginning of the round, so most likely I won't be recording maps like that either. Perhaps the old timer could be made better somehow though?

Mentalo
09/05/2008 20:20:00

Well atleast we need a timer that has no bug and shows +60 mins!

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16/11/2012 12:05:00

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