267 Countjump with new technique

By kz`Moxx mapper·
In the beginning everybody thought the youtube iconcount jump technique could only be used to make high jumps easier, since it disabled the edge friction, which means that high jumps and long jumps are no longer different when using this technique. Eventually we saw tjubby doing the first youtube icon255 block, an even later Fact or Fiction and Bibo decided to participate in a count jump competition. Bibo surprised us all with his amazing youtube icon260 block.

As a result count jumps became more advanced compared to regular long jumps. But also less expendable in climbing maps. Recently we at XJ accepted a new Long jump map. Kz_longjumps2, with this new map that was designed after the invention of the count jump technique, now it actually includes really good count jump blocks and 265block was reached soon after the release of Kz_longjumps2. It just shows how the type of block can change the jumpers imagination to create improvements to their prestrafe techniques and improve the record by 5 whole units.

Do the revolutionary step…

It’s time again for another revolutionary step in the kz-scene, the new improved Double Count jump, executed by the legendary Fact or Fiction. In our opinion the Double Count jump is one of the last finishing touches on the Count jump technique. With this new technique it’s now possible to reach a prestrafe of 299 unit/s without any special type of block. This means that the Double count jump becomes similar to the dropdown-long jump.
This new technique is really really hard to execute even on kz_longjumps2, but it’s possible.
On this note, this means that this is one of the final steps in reaching the longest jumping distance possible in the Half life engine.

267 block with count jump.
Total jump length: 268.984 units
Prestrafe speed: 297.234 unit
Topspeed: 352.164 units/s
Units in fact: 268 units

youtube iconGet the movie and the demo here

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09/09/2008 02:17:00

omg, wow.. nj dude.. lol so sick

09/09/2008 02:19:00

Cheated, cute.

09/09/2008 02:21:00

hahaha gj fof u hacks :D

09/09/2008 02:21:00

fact or fiction <3<3<3

09/09/2008 02:22:00

looks like xj just found out about groundstrafes :O pretty old lol

09/09/2008 02:23:00

N1, but that doesn't seem so hard to execute like u wrote ;)

09/09/2008 02:29:00

OMG MEGAG33K

09/09/2008 02:32:00

wtf O_o

09/09/2008 02:32:00

WTF!

09/09/2008 02:39:00

sexy eh ? Well done Fact..

09/09/2008 02:43:00

gj fact

09/09/2008 02:43:00

damn so sick :S

09/09/2008 03:02:00

great job! give a shit on what the fflamers flame here... good work

09/09/2008 03:17:00

OMG GJ!

09/09/2008 03:19:00

Nice, Amazing! fof <33

09/09/2008 03:24:00

Unbelievable! Well done FoF!

09/09/2008 03:24:00

rotfl....:/

09/09/2008 03:36:00

Seems nice, ima check it out.

09/09/2008 03:47:00

gj FoF, amazing.

09/09/2008 03:50:00

:O! amazingg s3 fof =D

09/09/2008 04:44:00

gjj, amazingg ! !

09/09/2008 04:50:00

[b]Revolutionary step[/b] indeed! Incredible jump FoF! congratz for the new technique! and good luck with it mate!! [i]PWNZOROFLCOPTERLMAO[/i]! haha

09/09/2008 05:03:00

da eff o_O

09/09/2008 05:35:00

GJ!!!

09/09/2008 06:16:00

EHEHeeehheeh )) lol :DD fact revolution

09/09/2008 06:22:00

gj fact, go for 270 xD maybe that's possible

09/09/2008 06:44:00

HOLY SHIT!

09/09/2008 06:45:00

"looks like xj just found out about groundstrafes pretty old lol" omg , bibo , why u so cool?? stfu

09/09/2008 06:49:00

Bibo is right... lol.

09/09/2008 06:50:00

WoW! fucking nice FactorFiction!!!

09/09/2008 06:50:00

omg, how about normal running using this technique? it sounds that infinite doubleducks with strafes can keep a ground speed with a ~300units/s, which is faster than only pressing w to move.am i right? absolutely this is extremely hard, however the history of kz prove that nothing is impossible. :/ if it is real, i think it's totally a shocked to the whole cs community. sorry for my bad english :/

09/09/2008 07:05:00

xD so u guys didnt know about groundstrafin? :D:D

09/09/2008 07:13:00

that's absolutely insane <3 fact

09/09/2008 07:17:00

oh it's just groundstrafing? meh.. gj for finding i guess..

09/09/2008 07:23:00

gj fof

09/09/2008 07:31:00

ok bibo.. you invented double ducks as well as groundstrafing.. we know, but fof used it to jump further than anyone has ever before. its a revolutionary step. accept it

09/09/2008 07:35:00

lol gstrafes :D gj anyway, O)_(o

09/09/2008 07:57:00

omg :o

09/09/2008 08:11:00

OOOMMMGGG FoF amazing

09/09/2008 08:21:00

oh my fucking god.. does ljstats show the length of the jump?

09/09/2008 08:21:00

word to brian. gj fof (so this was the thing that you were talking about eh? :D ) nice song <3

09/09/2008 08:34:00

WTF Fof o_O Well you should be able to jump way further this way, since we could have reached like 269 with the normal cj.

09/09/2008 08:45:00

gj :-D. Go try triple cj ;)

09/09/2008 09:19:00

holyfuck

09/09/2008 09:23:00

wtFOF

09/09/2008 09:54:00

gj

09/09/2008 09:58:00

Is this fact? or fiction? NO! It's Fact or Fiction!!!! OMG dude, this is fucking nice (I'd give you a ton of bananas :>)

09/09/2008 10:19:00

SHIT! GJ FACT

09/09/2008 10:32:00

omg amazinf FoF!!! Go for 270...:D

Fact or Fiction
09/09/2008 10:49:00

Thanks for thopa, faker & Moxx :pp <3

09/09/2008 11:17:00

bibo: looks like xj just found out about groundstrafes pretty old lol __________ hehe, just like in scoutz.. ^^

09/09/2008 11:23:00

Bibo, i'm sure that that u knew all about cj before Count found this.

09/09/2008 11:23:00

.. too*

09/09/2008 11:26:00

What is this groundstrafe really? Can it be executed without 2 dd;s? Or is it called it cause you use 2 dd;s? Or is it the big 180 prestrafe thats called groundstrafe and he added 2 dd;s?

09/09/2008 11:42:00

omg amazing! :o

09/09/2008 11:47:00

Incredible FoF! Nice technique, never thought about it. I did wonder about some other thing though, with that technique and the speed of 299, could it be possible to strafewalk in at least a couple of hundred units? With the speed 299? That would be revolutionary too.

09/09/2008 11:48:00

Btw. is this the technique eDark spoke of?

09/09/2008 12:07:00

scary that would be interesting

09/09/2008 12:34:00

FoF!!!! <3

09/09/2008 12:41:00

It's IMPOSSIBLE !!!! Nice technique, Fact, never thought about it...

09/09/2008 12:52:00

GJ FOF! :]

09/09/2008 13:24:00

upload demo plz

09/09/2008 13:25:00

i just watched that movie, god, very nice FoF

09/09/2008 13:45:00

Ggs` download the rar and you'll find the demo :)

09/09/2008 14:03:00

haha xD i thought and tried this many times but i was never able to do a good pre :) gj fact :D

09/09/2008 14:03:00

FoF mldc !!!

09/09/2008 14:06:00

<3

09/09/2008 14:19:00

amazing :o gj fof

09/09/2008 14:34:00

WTFFFF it crazy!

09/09/2008 14:35:00

Tried this double-doubleduck few months ago but it seemed to me unusable for CJ but now I see that FoF master this technique. Very very nice dude. <3

09/09/2008 14:38:00

Very impressive.

09/09/2008 14:41:00

"with that technique and the speed of 299, could it be possible to strafewalk in at least a couple of hundred units? With the speed 299? That would be revolutionary too." Nah. Every time you doubleduck succesfully, you lose 10 u/s speed, that makes the average a little lower than 299 u/s. I would estimate the average to be around 285 u/s. With regular fastrun you can run about 260 u/s(?). That makes the difference around 25 u/s. You would have to "strafe-run" for 10 seconds to win ONE second. There's still one thing I didn't notify. When you strafe, you don't go straight forwards like fastrun pretty much does. That might even take 10 units/s away, which would make the total difference only 15 u/s. That would take you 17 seconds to win one second. That's very much considering there are really few running parts in kz maps, and rarely the running parts are such long as 17 seconds. So, practically it's pretty hard to believe someone would beat a map because of strafewalking in it, but it can help you if you're really close to the wr, like 0,1 seconds :) That 0,1 is pretty much easier to get by just jumping faster and bhops + shortcuts. I just prefer to stick to 1 doubleduck when landing on a low block from a higher block :P Final conclusion, not practical. GJ FoF!

09/09/2008 14:41:00

groundstrafe (g-strafe) have existed for a very long time. The founder had the nick Red_Devil, with a bit of help by cN. it's been used for knifing and scoutzknivez for ages now, but its new in the LJ-scene.. So, keep it up =) you could probably get even moer speed with more DD's... if you make them perfect ^^ buy 267 is amazing =].

09/09/2008 14:43:00

+ Sorry DP. But I didn't notice that 300 u/s is not the maximum for running/walking/strafewalking whatever. Could be interesting to have a "theory" or anything from someone else too :)

09/09/2008 14:51:00

i think the hl engine will handle dd like bhops: whenever you do a doubleduck if you have 300+ speed you will be slowed so "starfewalking" will be uber imp cuz nobody will be able to handle a technique with which you can reach 300+ speed kinda fast. anyway starfewalking is already impossible since noone can strafe and doubleduck perfectly for several seconds xD 2 doubleducks with starfe in it are hard enough

09/09/2008 15:04:00

gj geek :)

09/09/2008 15:16:00

Fact <3 gj dude

09/09/2008 15:20:00

h0ly crap!

09/09/2008 15:30:00

omfg very n1 GJ FoF !

09/09/2008 15:32:00

wow..that's amazing :D

09/09/2008 15:40:00

IMO thats allz:/

09/09/2008 15:48:00

if you want to see some ground-strafing, just watch brian's movie.. take a look at 01:42 ground-strafing at de_aztec (then he does this 2man jump) other scene at 2:03. in this one he jumps from a higher box (de_cbble) to a lower one, then bhop onto a guys head and does several dd's on him until he's close enough to jump to the next box and continue with bhoping. sorry, but it's not that new, as some might think. It just hasn't been used for cj's until fof came geeked it ;)

09/09/2008 16:01:00

lol thats new? i did that when i started cj! i thought its just like cj lol

09/09/2008 16:19:00

i hope that some1 will make pretty good and clear guide for that tech cause i'd rly like to geek it alot ^^

09/09/2008 16:28:00

agree with aftermatch.

09/09/2008 16:31:00

really, really, reeeeaaaally great job! :)

09/09/2008 17:13:00

respect, big up yourself FoF, you`re bashing the engine and we learn from you , THXER!

09/09/2008 17:18:00

ROFLMAO hi

09/09/2008 18:34:00

n1 :D

09/09/2008 18:51:00

slow down guys... im yet to do a 240+ jump and ive kinda been in the kz scene for 3 years now -__-

09/09/2008 18:52:00

its sick!!, but I did see bibo using this tech pwning 260 ez a long time ago.

09/09/2008 18:57:00

thank you tjubby, very true.

09/09/2008 19:01:00

Funny when such a new technique comes up, there are so many people who are saying that they knew it already. It makes me wonder... If someone figures out how to fly, will people still say: "We've done that for years in something!"

Fact or Fiction
09/09/2008 19:01:00

yea, bibo, I remember we takled about cj things via irc once, and this is not new tech, just me and I think everybody else didn't thought it works before. This is not my tech or smth. Keep down mates (:

09/09/2008 19:04:00

then stop calling me a fuckin nub cuz i said its old, when i did 255 everybody said t3d did it first, and nobody called him a nub

09/09/2008 19:17:00

yea thats true bibo! I knew about it too but i just didnt care and thought it wouldnt make any diffrnce! btw will it be considered as a cj or will there be cj and double cj?

09/09/2008 19:30:00

How gives a shit about who found it first, just how about congratulate fact for pushing the boundries even further, that's what it's all about right?

Mr.Jumper
09/09/2008 19:44:00

wow thats sick... and I dont really care who invented this style... actually its not brandnew stuff...its a nice idea to include or convey it into the cj technic gogo 270 geeks

09/09/2008 19:48:00

AWESOME FOF !!!! GJ !

09/09/2008 19:52:00

#100! like we all said, awesome ;)

09/09/2008 19:53:00

"cake-technique" We need more cake.

09/09/2008 20:00:00

veerry nice :)

09/09/2008 20:02:00

BIBO BEST ;] greetings from Russia

09/09/2008 20:17:00

Yes, in vain you so if on a place Bibo authoritative players to them would listen here have started to state and another story (such players as T3d, BTW, etc.) would go already absolutely.

09/09/2008 20:29:00

What?????

09/09/2008 20:31:00

good job, hackers

09/09/2008 20:36:00

I'm gonna have to agree with trinitron on this one

09/09/2008 20:38:00

lol w000t Trinitron?! =)

09/09/2008 20:40:00

Sorry, I used translation.. bad english.

09/09/2008 20:43:00

In vain you so. If on place Bibo which defends now the point of view, there were players, which here in full authority (for example T3d, etc.) them would not name nub, newb, etc. So it is more clear? :)

09/09/2008 21:18:00

bibo youre bein a noob bc you're downplaying his accomplishment. he did 267. you did 260. get over it you too ajr

09/09/2008 21:44:00

Oh my god ! Amazing, this is revolution in kz scene ! <3 FoFFFFFFF

09/09/2008 21:56:00

word rhoisward, i dont wanna talk some shit against some good player, but i must say that FoF was the first who noticed that with this technique u can jump more that with cj (and dcj isn't cj :s its just based on cj), and he did it, and theres a lots of ppl who knew about it very long time ago, but what ? Did they knew that its not just a cj (or even for ppl who knew it before Count found a new technique, did they knew that u can jump more with that technique than with lj and so on..?) that its harder but u can jump more longer than with cj ? sorry if it all was shit, but this was my view about these comments.

09/09/2008 22:23:00

omg fact.... amazing

09/09/2008 22:51:00

always same people complaining. FoF is the only player to jump this far, i dont care how he did it. the fact or fiction is that he did it, and its impressive 268 bammmmm. doesn't matter how old or new teqniques are the point is he made the distance. show some respect

NikSHaaa
09/09/2008 23:15:00

Amazing jump, FoF nice.

10/09/2008 01:34:00

nice jump FoF but the technique is definitely old, i've seen bibo doing it for a while

10/09/2008 07:08:00

Very nice FoF, New SCs unblocked imho :).

10/09/2008 07:38:00

nice job

10/09/2008 10:12:00

very nice fof , bibo stop flam he did it , its so ez to old

10/09/2008 10:44:00

haha ajr you obviously can't stand the fact someone's better than you... jealous bitch.. and I'm not talking only about this jump

10/09/2008 15:07:00

Isn't it the technique, that we were searching, what later finding out is called eDark-Jump? It had to remain secret, FoF, but ok... nvm...

10/09/2008 16:44:00

Will we see a /ljstats that shows "double count jump" stats in a near future?

10/09/2008 16:46:00

*...just wondering, dont flame :)

10/09/2008 21:51:00

Yes... That's one more reason why I didn't want this technique to go on public... =(

11/09/2008 10:53:00

haha numb :D

12/09/2008 14:22:00

fof jump

13/09/2008 19:50:00

gg

17/08/2009 16:05:00

lol @ mobile

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