3 New Demos

By faker mapper··Demo release
kimo

kz_ezboulder_b01 done in 05:15 ( 05:24 by Mooney )

faker

sn_beachcliff done in 06:39 ( 06:55 by 4knuk )

t0ff0

kz_sandblock done in 10:25 ( n/a )

gj all

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faker mapper
9 Sep 2005, 16:04

good job :D

XeopH
9 Sep 2005, 16:06

gj n1 all

tarGet
9 Sep 2005, 16:09

did ezboulder 5:13 on kzfi server !amazed gj all

XeopH
9 Sep 2005, 16:10

yeah.. kzfi server pwnz :)

OddYsseus
9 Sep 2005, 16:13

nice demos ;)

fischauge
9 Sep 2005, 17:21

gj faker :D

Xecor
9 Sep 2005, 17:27

nice guys :D

Flipsyde
9 Sep 2005, 18:36

nice demos! :) gj but why does sandblock demo comes sooo l8? ô.o saw it on kzmaps.net about 3 weeks now... :/ greetz to ma BFF! :) <3

faker mapper
9 Sep 2005, 20:12

@fischauge: ty m8 :D @Flipsyde: we forgot the demo for a long time :/ sry about that :D

-nightmare-
9 Sep 2005, 20:56

weee, new demos^^. really good job dudes, finally there is a demo for sandblock, good job t0ff0^^

kimo mapper
9 Sep 2005, 21:30

target don't down guys when new records are posted -_-

4knuk
9 Sep 2005, 22:24

target made always records on kzfi server and btw gj all ^^

seaK
10 Sep 2005, 00:20

gj fakOR ;-)

moejoe
10 Sep 2005, 02:04

i know it is reeeeaaaaally hard... but sandblock could be done better and faster... i know that all of u r training this map... and t0ff0 set a record and so the beginning of a long fight ^^ gj t0ff0!!! hard map... and gj to the others :) pls send me the ip of the server ^^ want to play on it :>

HoHo^
10 Sep 2005, 09:35

=)

t0ffo
11 Sep 2005, 14:11

moejoe, i did 7.3x im just w8 for someone to beat my record so i can post my 7.3x record :)

elITe^
11 Sep 2005, 14:18

hehe t0ffo HoHo^ .. mario is having fun =) u do the same with ur barbies? :D :P gj all ;)

faker mapper
22 Mar 2010, 22:17

A "switch bind" is a binding like this: bind mouse4 "bind mwheelup +jump" bind mouse5 "bind mwheelup +use" This way people can use their mousewheel for "3 things", at first jumping and then later when they get near to the end-button to spam +use commands as well. (A few demos of the current submissions include such scripts).

spr1n mapper
22 Mar 2010, 22:31

I rebind my own keys ingame usually according to situation via console. dont think thats illegal. If that one is legal, I dont see any reasons to forbid binding this proccess

cahz0r Tournament #3
22 Mar 2010, 22:45

it`s an unfair advantage unless everyone can do that.

kREWAN
22 Mar 2010, 22:59

Then do a guide.

Skizo_record holder
22 Mar 2010, 23:08

yes! my opinion is its obviously legal

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
22 Mar 2010, 23:25

Seems legit, man! Some people have nice mice which feature some additional buttons, and those aren't illegal, so I don't see why a switch bind would be illegal. In my opinion it just makes it more fair.

ndR moviemaker Tournament #2
23 Mar 2010, 00:02

I don't give a damn about +use bound on mousewheel but... [b]No way[/b] for "bind switchs", tomorrow I'll create a uber big alias which will make me gain 0,5 second and only config "geeks"/scripters will know how to make it, and then use it in record. It'll turn into a "the best script/config/alias" fight, how exciting it is...

kyser
23 Mar 2010, 00:14

legit of course! btw, if i bind for example: bind mouse1 "+use;wait;-use;wait;..........;+use;wait;-use" , is that legit?

FoF mapper
23 Mar 2010, 00:19

'-' : using wait commands are forbidden.

kyser
23 Mar 2010, 00:23

i cant understand why "wait" in this bind is forbidden :s but ok.. if u say that..

kznoob
23 Mar 2010, 02:24

go 4 it. freedom of binding ftw

Skizo_record holder
23 Mar 2010, 06:33

cmon ndr we dont fear :)

omilo
23 Mar 2010, 07:22

No.

kielorz
23 Mar 2010, 07:38

for future maps i suggest to make finish like in kz_man_climbrace no button - no sex with it and i say yes ofc

PsYxOpAt mapper
23 Mar 2010, 08:59

No

ova
23 Mar 2010, 10:35

you guys are going deeper and deeper ... you shouda disallowed binding use to mwheel, i say no ps not surprised to see skizzo being ok with it ...

Skizo_record holder
23 Mar 2010, 12:14

:))

FoF mapper
23 Mar 2010, 12:19

My vote NO! If player wanna use +use on mwheel he have to sacrifice either +duck or +jump.

MepH
23 Mar 2010, 12:36

+1 fof, voted no!

w1zzrecord holder
23 Mar 2010, 12:37

word to ova, the 2nd part of his comment. And my answer is no aswell.

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
23 Mar 2010, 14:26

[quote]I don't give a damn about +use bound on mousewheel but... No way for "bind switchs", tomorrow I'll create a uber big alias which will make me gain 0,5 second and only config "geeks"/scripters will know how to make it, and then use it in record. It'll turn into a "the best script/config/alias" fight, how exciting it is... [/quote] How would you for example make a switch bind with an alias that gives you advantage? I can't imagine a single example of such.

deus?
23 Mar 2010, 14:31

I'm using +use on mouse4 for quite a long time and it's easy enough to tap mouse4 without loosing your bhops. I would say, rebind your keys properly so you can perform multitasking easily, or gtfo ;] Voted no.

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
23 Mar 2010, 15:06

[quote=deus?]I'm using +use on mouse4 for quite a long time and it's easy enough to tap mouse4 without loosing your bhops. I would say, rebind your keys properly so you can perform multitasking easily, or gtfo ;] Voted no. [/quote] mouse4 is not scroll...

DiDo-Grecord holder
23 Mar 2010, 15:11

Of course no

Punk^
23 Mar 2010, 15:35

I'm with what ndR said.

zhady Tournament #2
23 Mar 2010, 16:16

Deny it and remove all my demos! ;D

spr1n mapper
23 Mar 2010, 16:19

this is rediculous... evryone voted no because they find this swtichbinding lame or just dont like it. well I agree it is quite lame, but not enough to vote no imo. just ndR explaned why he thinks its illegal. tho I dont agree about script wars etc. switchbinding is far from being a script, just another way of binding. (ye scripts are disalowed, but never heard that bindings are) also you can rebind keys via console pretty fast too example: 1. console: bind mwheelup +use 2. console: bind mwheelup +duck 3. make a run and in the end open console holding move key (W) 4. tap UP key twice and then enter that will take less than a second and gives same effect and actually dont differ from fakers example (I mean same resources are used). forbiding "bind" command in a run at all would be more logical, and probably more fair since overal rules dont allow any changes during a run. but im not sure about that... wanna see good reasons for "NO" please!

Pieshels mapper
23 Mar 2010, 16:57

XJ Rule [b]6.4.13[/b] : [blockquote]It is strictly forbidden to change your keys/binds/aliases during a run, they must be set before you start the timer.[/blockquote] So making a bind that changes binds goes under this category too. I do not see a reason why to allow it. [blockquote]If player wanna use +use on mwheel he have to sacrifice either +duck or +jump. [/blockquote]

spr1n mapper
23 Mar 2010, 17:01

havent seen this rule before, with it this vote looses it's point...

Skizo_record holder
23 Mar 2010, 20:29

this rule was added after decimals so before wasnt problem.

koukouz mapperrecord holder
23 Mar 2010, 23:49

hehe a big NO from me... I don't even think that it requires arguments

PepoMerca
24 Mar 2010, 02:33

ofc!

kz.sj LFree`
24 Mar 2010, 08:15

so how we should bhop or dd run?

DaFox
24 Mar 2010, 09:21

What do you mean LFree? You don't need to change your binds at all for those...

kREWAN
24 Mar 2010, 12:33

No!

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
24 Mar 2010, 17:20

@ Pieshels Maybe the exact point of this poll is to change the rules?

dexxies
24 Mar 2010, 20:16

buy a mouse with two scrolls and you'll be able to bind mousescroll +use

oO WTF?
24 Mar 2010, 20:46

one question.. if i was banned for using +use on mwheel before the vote, would i be unbanned now, when it allowed?

kHRAZEEEEEEEEEE
24 Mar 2010, 20:58

oO WTF? so it is you, hel!!! kidden i think all this stuff with +use in the mwheel and bind swhitching are legit... dunno why it should be cancelled... the demos would be just more interesting to see, to improve etc

Inzeer
24 Mar 2010, 22:06

omg NO !

DiDo-Grecord holder
24 Mar 2010, 22:25

I readed everyone's post and I see only no no no but more guys voted yes :o

Fliborecord holder Tournament #2
25 Mar 2010, 07:58

@ oO WTF? +use on mwheel was always allowed... :|

Pieshels mapper
25 Mar 2010, 08:58

@Flibo Have I missed something? Since when XJ has become truly democratic community? :O OT I'm still against it. Not oldschool enough for me. xD

MkA^
25 Mar 2010, 14:25

@khrazeeeee the demos wont be more interesting,they're just giving you some lead,enough to beat the current wr and practically most of them will be kinda the same... my opinion is: definately NO!

oO WTF?
25 Mar 2010, 18:59

2 Flibo but i was banned after using it on some short map to finish it very quickly (about 1.5 seconds on stats, top was 1.2sec), and after 4-5 trying i was permanently banned by XJ admin ( dunno what to do (

LesY^
26 Mar 2010, 13:19

NO!:)

A3TIUS
27 Mar 2010, 05:48

[i]After going through all of the above posts, I think binding mwheel to +use should be allowed and also bind scripts should be allowed. Here are my reasons : 1. Ppl have personal preferences wen it comes to use a particular key may it be on keyboard or may it be on mouse...I think that much amt of freedom should be given to each player. Also if u think its wrong, then I think XJ should start implementing the rule of using default config while recording demos 2. Some modern gaming mouse have even upto 10 buttons and also multiple profiles assignable to each button. Dnt u think those who use mice like that would have an unfair advantage over those who dnt use bind scripts. PS : If u wanna find abt such mice chk out the Roccat series of mice...[/i]

V0ncH...
27 Mar 2010, 07:57

AETIUS HAS IT! :) gj

A3TIUS
28 Mar 2010, 14:04

[i]@ V0ncH I wish I had...But right now I cant afford it...:( And ya...I just happened to find out the xct name of the mouse... Its Roccat Kone (69.99 euros)...[/i]

m0ver
28 Mar 2010, 20:13

I vote no. IMHO you can only bind to specific action. But tbh it is irrelevant.

lurp
30 Mar 2010, 00:25

i don't care.. but i think it should be illegal

BLT^_^
30 Mar 2010, 18:42

if you posted your comment it's because you care !

mH [KZRA]
30 Mar 2010, 22:02

i say NO .. And +1 to second part of ova's comment!

MuscLe
31 Mar 2010, 00:55

No and probably doesn't matter why.

ExboCooope
1 Apr 2010, 15:06

No I think binding mwhellup to anything doesn't have to take out the console,you can do it with settings. But swicth binds need to call out console which is not supposed to be controlled by players

wombolombo
1 Apr 2010, 20:46

Make binding anything to mouse illegal, spacebar demos only plx

RRROCK
2 Apr 2010, 03:31

I proclaim "YES"! Bind just helps to save time. What's the goal of all kz? Fight against time. What's the reason of prohibiting thing that saves time? 1) It ruins default settings or abilities. 2) It gives advantage to one person that other one cannot have. Binding doesn't give you advantage that any other person cannot have. It's the most basic command in cs. So if XJ prohibit binding during run it will not be natural rule. It will be artificial limitation, which stops kreedz evolving. If you care about some really unfair binds which will change the core of jumping I advise to define a certain list of allowed (or prohibited) binds. Why should players sacrifice (as suggested FoF) instead of gain? Using switch bind is fair and doesn't spoil jumping itself. It just helps to get faster times. Blame button-based timer system. Too bad we have only 10 fingers.

ova
2 Apr 2010, 09:56

ur right 1ove, but they should also ban usage of 250 + hz, u know ... just cuz some might be disadvantaged just give us the liberty to do anything we want ... why so many polls, u know all will vote FOR.

owned
3 Apr 2010, 21:48

Everyone who jumps is gonna use the scrollwheel, so anybody can bind it... that's like saying you can't bind +duck to mwheelup and duckhop and what not...

faker mapper
4 Apr 2010, 09:13

owned: That's not actually right, with this bind you can use your mwheel for 4 different binds instead of 2, that's the whole purpose of the bound. They start with +use and +duck on mwheel, use the switchbind to bind +use to the mwheel, hit the start button and then use the switchbind again to set the mwheel back to +use and +duck. Whatever, the decision is made, just wanted to explain it once again because a few people seemed to be confused about it, still.

Nikša Jovanovic
4 Apr 2010, 15:21

Voted for NO...cuz i truly think its legal enough

y i r i
5 Apr 2010, 16:40

Yes some mice has two wheels, and some keyboards has wheel too, so its adventage for owners

PepoMerca
20 Oct 2015, 09:29

chasco!

shooting-star.
31 Dec 2015, 04:26

Miss you! Chasquido =D