No duck lj
Originally posted by heaRseWhy don't you add that "no-duck jumps" to the top25?
Apropos top25, in the "submit longjump records" thread you talked about the cj/bj/hj-top25, but there are just 20 records. So please update the thread or add 5 more records in each section.
No admin replied to that, thus I decided to open a thread in the suggestions forum. I hope I'll get an adequate answer.
It is stupid.. Why don't add LJ with famas ? With scout ? With 360 turn? With eyes closed ?
01/08/2008 12:43Because that's definitely not the same thing, Pulsar.
I think this is a really good idea. It makes just as much sense as highjumps do to me.
nah i think hj is different from no-duck-ljs since hj are needed in kzmaps too... in kz maps you can do every lj with a duck + no-duck-ljs are just lj - 20 units cuz of the duck which means you dont need another technique but you need another technique (imo) at jumping highjumps since you have no clear mark where to jump off for best results.
adding new things like no-duck-lj, lj/hj/cj with different weapons or maybe even bhoplj splittet to normal-bhopljs and standup-bhopljs is just stupid and would take a lot webspace (which was afaik one reason why the lj records section was cut to a limit)
why dont you ask raptor to create a "unoffical lj records" thread out of his multi lj thread where all way to longjumps etc and blablub is listed?
01/08/2008 15:05Multi-longjumps are bullshit. Longjumps without duck is a good idea though. Weapons are also bullshit.
And yeah, maybe lj without duck is like doing normal lj + 20 units, but that's almost the same as saying hj is normal lj + 12-13 units.
01/08/2008 15:26What is the point of this? I agree with Pulsar on this one.
Also, I don' think this can't be compared to highjumps at all. wRath, you need to study highjumps more then. :p
01/08/2008 15:49the point is fo lj geeks. look here http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?63391
Originally posted by PuppetZ^Also, I don' think this can't be compared to highjumps at all. wRath, you need to study highjumps more then. :p
that is what i tried to say cause i knew wrath would answer noduck+20units=lj is the same as hj+12-13units=lj ^^
no duck ljs makes just as much sense as ljs,cjs,bhopkjs,hjs to me lol lj and hj are basically the same anyway you just jump early and at the end of the day its all about who can go the furthest so why not.
more traffic... close pls :D
LJ Record List:
lj forward w/ duck: 255
lj forward w/o duck: 235
lj backward w/ duck: 255
lj backward w/o duck: 235
lj left sideward w/ duck: 255
lj left sideward w/o duck: 235
lj right sidewards w/duck: 255
lj right sidewards w/o duck: 235
lj forward with a 360degree turn: 250
......
and so on and so on (also with every possible weapon, and for sure also on bhop, hj, cj)
this aren't even techniques, this are just "funjumps".
lj, bhop, hj, cj (came as "improvement" for lj) are "techniques" which u can use on very very many positions on standardmaps and also kz maps. almost every trickjump is based on this techniques (+ the following listed techniques).
"techniques" like weird-lj (ernstaugust jump), drop bhop, drop cj, duck-bhop? :P, and so on and so on (u could list like thousands of this "techniques" are known ye, but u cant use it on that much places (more in trickjumps than in climbing maps).
so, BEFORE some "funjumps" like lj without duck and so on would get added (i bet with you lj w/o duck will never get added), this techniques like dropbhop, weird-lj and so would get added, because this are more something like a technique compared with lj w/o duck. (and ye i know, there isnt a standard on the height difference in drop bhop, weird lj and so on). But also this "techniques" i hope will never get added, because u/we can find thousands of such techniques.
imo it is right that "only" the actual 4 techniques are in lj list, and no more get added. only when an actual technique (lj,cj,bhop,hj) would get improved like it was on lj->cj.
+1 for let it be like it is :)
Pretty pointless since you have to jump exactly the same way with no duck like doing a regular lj. Same goes with heavier weapons. Highjumps are a bit borderline, strafes are the same but you need to jump at the right moment which is very much about luck. Personally I wouldn't mind if they got removed.
i think you don't use LJ without duck on a run. Its useless, just 4fun. 100% agree with pulsar.
07/10/2008 14:44Useless stuff like that won't be added from our, the official, side. If you still think it's cool feel free to organize such a thread with some other users, and if it's successful we'll sticky it.