Real distance with weapons

02/09/2008 13:49
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Hi! I wanna know what is the real distance when I jump with weapons. I mean when I jump for example with famas (240 u/s) it's not exactly 10 units shorter, right? So how much it will be shorter? I jumped 231.253 with awp (cj) and I really want to know how much exactly is it. Thank in advance.

Pulsar!02/09/2008 13:56

Jump time with duck = 0,732 sec. 10 u/s of weapon speed gives u 10*0,732=7,32 units.

So, with famas ur jump will be 7,32 units shorter and with scout 7,32 longer..

Thank you! Now I know, my 231 awp wasn't that good as I thought ;D

Fliborecord holder Tournament #202/09/2008 14:16

Originally posted by .reSPECT.
Hi! I wanna know what is the real distance when I jump with weapons. I mean when I jump for example with famas (240 u/s) it's not exactly 10 units shorter, right? So how much it will be shorter? I jumped 231.253 with awp (cj) and I really want to know how much exactly is it. Thank in advance.


You just CAN'T calculate it. Your prestrafe is lower, so your strafes have to be a little different than with knife etc.

Pulsar!02/09/2008 14:17(edited 02/09/2008 14:17)

Originally posted by Flibo
You just CAN'T calculate it. Your prestrafe is lower, so your strafes have to be a little different than with knife etc.

No, u are wrong. With famas ur prestrafe will be lower on 10 u/s, with scout higher on 10 u/s.

`ScraP Tournament #202/09/2008 15:30

sure pulsar?
my stats:
best lj stats is 251
best awp lj stats is 221

яєsρєcт02/09/2008 15:44(edited 02/09/2008 17:04)

Isn't it mean that you jumped 250.28 with awp (if without it)? If I'm right it's nothing wrong here?

Pulsar!02/09/2008 16:15(edited 02/09/2008 16:26)

251 on stats with USP = 221,72 on stats with AWP

221 on stats with AWP = 250,28 on stats with USP

I am note sure about jump time.. Equasition says what jump time should be sqrt(2*45/800)+sqrt(2*63/800) = 0,7322.. but it is only 100frames per second, so jump time is 73 frames, so u should use 0,73 and not 0,732.. I am not sure about it, but think 0,73 is the right value cause of frames..

Yamakasi02/09/2008 17:18

imo strafs whit awp are not the same that whit knif/usp cuz you'r prestrafs isnt the same .

`ScraP Tournament #202/09/2008 18:45

oh got pwned :D

Fliborecord holder Tournament #202/09/2008 19:35

Originally posted by Yamakasi
imo strafs whit awp are not the same that whit knif/usp cuz you'r prestrafs isnt the same .


That's what I said, and I'm SURE of it.

Grrr03/09/2008 09:26

At LJing u have 7,32 units difference with 10u/s difference between weapons cuz u don't have limited pre at LJ, At CJ/BHOP u have limited pre so the difference is not the same, download Lt.Rat's plugin which shows pre and you will see that for CJ/BHOP
scout limit is 312 ; knife/usp - 299 ; famas - 288 ... etc..

Fliborecord holder Tournament #203/09/2008 12:24

Originally posted by IchWill
At LJing u have 7,32 units difference with 10u/s difference between weapons cuz u don't have limited pre at LJ, At CJ/BHOP u have limited pre so the difference is not the same, download Lt.Rat's plugin which shows pre and you will see that for CJ/BHOP
scout limit is 312 ; knife/usp - 299 ; famas - 288 ... etc..


That's a different thing. Try to strafe without taking any speed. You can do easily like 70 units/s maxspeed. Try to strafe with 1000 speed, you just can't handle your strafes as well.

JunkYGR03/09/2008 15:13

lower the prestrafe,more eficent the strafes,so if u do 10 units lower pre for example,your strafes will be more eficent than doing them with a 10 units more pre,so u cant calculate it,because the strafes on theese diferent situation are totaly diferent at speed:)

lonewolf VIP03/09/2008 18:46

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3098/cs16weaponspeed9nlci2.gif
(don't know if the image is right)
Use porcentage!
if i jumped 250 with usp/knife, with scout will be:
250*1,04 = 260
251*1,04 = 261.04
252*1,04 = 262.08

яєsρєcт03/09/2008 21:24(edited 03/09/2008 21:25)

It can't be correct, cause I jumped with awp 235.5 and that would be like 279.76

235/0.84 = 279.76 !!! Something is wrong, huh?

lonewolf VIP05/09/2008 16:01

don't know, but make the calcule:

240 (famas) is what % of 250?

Pulsar!05/09/2008 17:07(edited 05/09/2008 18:59)

Maybe 96 ? O_o

SwiftSpear07/09/2008 00:37

It's not a simple formula. The different weapons have different max speeds, different acceleration factors, and different airstrafe properties. They'll all handle bhop, lj, and cj somewhat differently.

Fliborecord holder Tournament #207/09/2008 12:04(edited 07/09/2008 12:05)

Originally posted by SwiftSpear
It's not a simple formula. The different weapons have different max speeds, different acceleration factors, and different airstrafe properties. They'll all handle bhop, lj, and cj somewhat differently.


All weapons are equal in air, and that's why you can do bigger strafes with a lower prestrafe.

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