Height difference

Started by dLx
26/10/2008 22:24
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dLx26/10/2008 22:24(edited 26/10/2008 22:24)

Hello I want to know how can i calculate the units of a longjump with the units in height difference.
EX : 240 lj ( 0 height difference ) and 240 lj ( with 1 unit height difference ) what's the lenght of the jump in the second exemple.
Please don't post some stupid things. thx

zhady Tournament #226/10/2008 23:12

still a 240 lj?:O

Igge26/10/2008 23:22

Well with a perfect 240,000... you can jump 240 but not 240 with 1 unit height difference. You need to jump SQRT(57601) for that.
Bad example though. I think you get more out of it if you try with bigger height difference.

FailED`27/10/2008 09:01(edited 27/10/2008 12:21)


You need to jump SQRT(57601) for that.

Igge


right :) but its the same distance you get on falling 240 units with 1 unit forward^^



Hello I want to know how can i calculate the units of a longjump with the units in height difference.

dLx


you probably wanted to ask for the difficulty of the jump,
Its impossible to calculate it, because everyone has different lj style, therefore different acceleration in different parts of a longjump and different prestrafe speed, if you wanted to count it and be as exact as possible, you would have to figure out average acceleration in different parts of jumps of different people and get formula for
horizontal acceleration = f(time in air)

but you can get approximate value by counting it like throw physics ;)

dLx27/10/2008 09:37

Yes maybe a bad example,but i'm trying to know how can i get a possible length of the jump with the bigger height difference.

Grrr27/10/2008 13:15

if height difference is 63 units or the max height that some1 can jump, simple LJ should be divided on 2 and this way u could find how much u could jump with 63 units height difference (but I'm not sure cuz of the maxspeed) and this way u can only calculate for the middle of the jump..

maybe some math geek could help us :/

Igge27/10/2008 20:17(edited 27/10/2008 20:17)

Approximate time in air would be helpful to create such a formula.

FailED`27/10/2008 20:34(edited 27/10/2008 21:02)

Originally posted by Igge
Approximate time in air would be helpful to create such a formula.

Approximate value you can get like this: (its not constant)
t=sqrt((2*45)+sqrt(2*(45+18)))/sqrt(800)
t=3(sqrt(5)+sqrt(7))/20

come on! ;)

did you, guys, even read my previous post? :I

dLx27/10/2008 21:34

I didn't asked for the difficulty just how can i get a possible lenght of the jump in units of a block without height from a block with height difference!

Igge27/10/2008 22:06(edited 27/10/2008 22:07)

Failed, you gave a formula for a normal lj. How do you apply the formula if you want to know the "normal" length of a 200 lj with 40 height difference? You need to know more than just a normal lj formula for that. That's why I asked for an approximate time in air.

FailED`27/10/2008 22:12(edited 27/10/2008 23:27)

you recognized what it is, so you could also know how it works ;) the problem is the horizontal acceleration... its very different for different jumpers

t=(sqrt((2*45)+sqrt(2*(45+18-heightdifference))))/sqrt(800) -_-

s=((a*t)/2+p)*t when "a" is average acceleration between A and B (x,y)
+32.0625 for blocks ofc

Igge27/10/2008 22:57

Please explain the t formula for me :)

FailED`27/10/2008 23:37(edited 28/10/2008 10:12)

ok, im quite bored so here it is: ;)

s=t*Øv
Øv=a*t/2
s=t*a*t/2
t=sqrt(2s/a)
...
rising:
t1=sqrt(2*45/800)
falling:
t2=sqrt(2*(45+18)/800)
overall:
t=(sqrt((2*45)+sqrt(2*(45+18))))/sqrt(800)
----------------------------------------------------------
45 is the height of jump w/o duck
18 is the difference between jump w/ and w/o duck
800 is sv_gravity, [sv_gravity]=unit/s^2

k3G28/10/2008 06:03

something around 241,there's no differences between them cuz it's just a 240 ^^

dLx28/10/2008 09:59

so if u succed this formula :


t={sqrt[(2*45)+sqrt(2*(45+18)]}/sqrt(800)

U will get the speed ?

Igge28/10/2008 11:41

nah...an approximate time in air.

Grrr28/10/2008 11:54

c'mon! create some amxx height plugin with this formula ! :P

dLx28/10/2008 20:02

Originally posted by IchWill
c'mon! create some amxx height plugin with this formula ! :P


+1

stRunF30/10/2008 20:59(edited 30/10/2008 21:00)

Originally posted by dLx
Originally posted by IchWill
c'mon! create some amxx height plugin with this formula ! :P


+1

+2
i wanted to ask this too:)
i calculated this always like this: 210 with 0 height dif, 210 with 30 height dif,so 210+30=240~ aprox,i knew this isn't correct ,but it matches 70-80+%
-2;+2 units,it doesn't mean that much...

dLx30/10/2008 22:30

It isn't correct due to maxspeed which differs and every geeker in height difference u have another technique of jumping stats is different too.

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