kz_kpt_destination_ez

21/07/2009 16:12
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radon mapper Tournament #321/07/2009 16:12(edited 21/07/2009 16:45)

Status: Denied

Reason:

- The map is definetely better than last time! but theres some new things that affect our decision this time.

- first of all. The wpoly is too bad :( its one of the main reasons for our decision. screens will follow.

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- bugs: (radon)
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0000.bmp : 2000 wpoly for such a small room ? its not too much, its just that there should be less in such a small room as that.
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0001.bmp : 2500 wpoly is too much. (ofcourse you can see more, but still)
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0002.bmp : nullbug :)
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0003.bmp : 2500 wpoly (maybe becourse you can see the outside part aswell.
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0004.bmp : why is there a clip brush there ?
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0005.bmp : that rock shouldnt stick out like that.
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0006.bmp : jump isnt close enough to the wall.
http://www.rad0n.dk/mapcheck/kz_kpt_destination_ez0007.bmp : 3100 wpoly is way too much, dunno why it is so high, maybe cuz all the texture lights.

- bugs: (omilo)
Didnt like the way he added these either: http://tinnet.net/imghost/files/kz_kpt_destination_ez0000.jpg . Dont seem to fit in there. And the fact that some of them are solid and some arnt makes it even more random.

- bugs: (puppetz)
Suggestions/fixtures:
I will list some things here which could improve the outcome of the map, and maybe make me vote yes to kz tag:

http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_beam.JPG Add some sort of beam there, that doesn't make any sense.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_ceiling2.JPG That ceiling texture looks ugly, and it's repeating a lot (bad wpoly).
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_ceiling.JPG Ditto.
As others mentioned, the crystals are quite buggy. I think it's a nice idea, but he should try and create some that maybe aren't so rotated. Examples:
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_crystals2.JPG
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_crystals3.JPG
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_crystals.JPG
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_empty.JPG This last part looks really empty compared to everything else.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_fade.JPG Looks weird how it stops there, as CyclopP said, add some sort of fade, or maybe something else.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_scaletex2.JPG Make sure you scale all of the same rock textures equally.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_scaletex.JPG Same.
omilo mentioned that you could add some sounds, here's a few suggestions of where to: http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_sounds2.JPG and http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_sounds.JPG
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_thb.JPG These texture lights have too high brightness, IMO it looks silly like that. Turn it a bit down, and it will look cooler.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_ugly.JPG Change that texture, it looks weird with that black stuff there IMO.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_weird.JPG Looks weird with that large grate, and also what's behind it.
http://www.dump.no/files/340908e93448/kz_kpt_destination_ez_wtex.JPG I don't know if it's a mistake, but I think that texture doesn't fit there.

- bugs: (oO3ddYOo)
http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0001.jpg : left side is a texture and in the square is it just black. http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0002.jpg : further away
http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0003.jpg : lightbug
http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0004.jpg : nullbug http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0005.jpg : further away
http://files.xtreme-jumps.eu/oO3ddYOo/mapcheck/destination/kz_kpt_destination_ez0007.jpg : lightbug
http://xtreme-jumps.eu/e107_plugins/forum/forum_post.php?rp.166090 : line bug just on the unique-kz picture.

- Bugs + Suggestions: (faker)

http://home.arcor.de/thafak0r/kz/kz_kpt_destination_ez0002.jpg
-> However, other textures seem to be pretty ugly and dull, especially the "nuke" textures on the outside part
http://home.arcor.de/thafak0r/kz/kz_kpt_destination_ez0005.jpg
-> Other textures seem to not fit to each other, too, like the last stage
http://home.arcor.de/thafak0r/kz/kz_kpt_destination_ez0000.jpg
-> Also the sign at the beginning looks really weird, strange and kinda ugly. He should consider changing that as well:
http://home.arcor.de/thafak0r/kz/kz_kpt_destination_ez0003.jpg
-> You can see the first rooms over/through the ceiling if you jump at this spot.
http://home.arcor.de/thafak0r/kz/kz_kpt_destination_ez0004.jpg


(if there is many bugs, you dont have to feel bad about it, every little thing can be mentioned, and u dont have to fix all of them. but it would be best :)

Suggestions:

- fix the bugs and use some of the suggestions we posted.

- in #mappers you can get help about mapping and get feedback.

Other:

Note: Make a changelog when/if you resubmit so we can easier see what you have changed and make the process go faster.

I know theres many "bugs" but its a great map (it was close to being accepted as custom) First of all try to fix the wpoly! maybe try to compile the map with -full vis.

type R_speeds 1 in console and try to get under 2000 in the big room with all the texture lighting :P

puppetz mapper21/07/2009 16:52(edited 21/07/2009 16:53)

Oops, seems like dump.no went down again... Here's my pictures (in the same order):

http://i27.tinypic.com/j76bsj.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2daga5s.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/30cbmmu.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/1414l7o.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/20qg9yx.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/9bk8ar.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/119ytme.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/w1fwoy.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/169kwo3.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/30u4ug3.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/rsugyc.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/2v7ys0p.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/15fkdua.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/chmqe.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/347tefs.jpg

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