kzmod longjumps

Started by lagster mapper
01/01/2010 13:43
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lagster mapper02/01/2010 16:57

I really hope what I am about to say is read by every member on this site because this has gone far beyond ridiculous. heiss, you, like every other member here (at least 90%) are completely misguided and overall ignorant to any of what I or hazard ever post.

Since I am almost certain I will receive the exact same response, I will spell it out for you; immaturity rofl you and the rest of these clowns seem to think that fighting anyones opinion or standing up for yourself is instantly 'immaturity', do you know what the word means? in the dictionary I have sitting next to me it says, in brief 'not fully developed'..? our posts have substance to them and thought behind them so the posts that are infact immature are yours, are you able to understand that or am I going to have to post 5 more times before you realize i'm right?

you're hopeless, standing up for FoF, what, are you and remake fanboys? I started this thread for demos, and upon receiving one, I got an opinion that I felt was incorrect so I proceeded to post what I personally thought was right (did you even fucking read it?) and you think what I'm saying is immature? Lets move aside from how utterly incorrect your overall perception of immaturity is and lets look at it front on.

kzmod, a mod developed around the idea of kz/climbing/jumping whatever you want to call it. Recently debates have sparked over longjumping and its worth within the 1.6 version of the game, the conclusion was that it IS kz and it IS here to stay, so in a mod that is DEVELOPED for kz why would you not want to see ljing? and remake, you don't like the pushing it to the limit style of gameplay? stop watching wr's then, stop watching trickjumps, stop watching longjumps, stop playing kz, are you a fucking idiot? what do you think the games based on. How many more lame kz movies do I need to watch with the text "breaking boundaries" and other dumb shit about pushing the limits of the hl1 engine, fucking think before you say things and try and realise what the fuck kz is because is throwing your motivation to play the game away really worth the brownie points FoF may or may not give you for standing up for him? Well done though, you seem like a real over-achiever.

Lets go back to my initial issue with you heiss, you are quick to put hazard and myself down but for what reason? why are you using immaturity as an excuse, because if you really believe this is immaturity then maybe you should have a real good look at yourself.

I give most of you the benefit of the doubt, the majority of you have somewhat of an education which is why I sit here baffled as to how stupid and ignorant you really are. If you have an opinion fight for it, if you think somethings wrong then say it, why the fuck do you idiots have to constantly hide behind one another just so you don't get caught out of the crowd and exposed for how horrible you really are.

You are the idiots that sit, praise and boost FoF's ego FOR longjumping yet you come straight back here and post how much you hate it LOL its honestly sad, really fucking sad that when push comes to shove you have nothing to stand on but other peoples opinions. Remember a little while ago, s1gh posted questioning the level of professionalism behind the tutorials which started a massive flamewar, why? because none of you actually fucking read or thought about what he said or meant, you just quickly scrolled down and posted some generic bullshit in the hopes that no one would notice or question your fake opinion.

I'm almost certain FoF can stand up for himself, he doesn't need fanboys running fighting his fucking battles, and its funny because it wasnt even a battle, I asked for demos, he then posted his opinion, i posted mine and then his cavalry arrived to clutch onto his already massive cock on this site while adding nothing more than a fake fucking opinion.

its just fucking sad, no doubt you'll flame me, maybe the thread will get closed even, all i fucking wanted was some demos because despite you idiots i actually posted in the hopes of gaining some insight into a technique in a new, fun and unknown aspect of kz.

oh and btw FoF, dont fucking flatter yourself 'fofmo' this 'fofmo' that, do you honestly think thats some sort of compliment? rofl, congrats, you geeked doublecj longer than hazard. get the fuck off you highhorse baddie.

PS. If you need to read this twice, do so, don't post unless you have a clear idea behind what I am trying to say, unlike heiss who is so far on the other page that he will continue making himself look like an idiot... wait no he wont, because you idiots will follow him, amirite? LOL fuck you

<3 Lagster

FragGyver mapper02/01/2010 17:09

There is no official longjumps section yet. If you are looking for demos you should write a pm to faker, fof or similar and ask for it.

We are still talking discussing about adding lj worldrecords. You allready got it right, kz_longjumps was added for a reason ;)

Kz_longjumps is also the only map that has its main focus on ljs. Other than that there are many maps that have lj minimaps in them, like kz_mausolus, kz_debod, kz_brooklyn, kz_combineclimb or kz_minimania (best one should be mausolus).

If you have any other questions dont hesitate to ask us anytime :)

soul v2.0 mapper02/01/2010 17:48

you're hopeless, standing up for FoF



you are quick to put hazard and myself down



wat

I asked for demos, he then posted his opinion, i posted mine and then his cavalry arrived to clutch onto his already massive cock on this site while adding nothing more than a fake fucking opinion.



actually hazard was the cavalry that arrived to bash on FoF before anyone else stood up for him so

oh I really can't be arsed

remake02/01/2010 18:00(edited 02/01/2010 18:03)

Originally posted by LAGSTERRrRkz[a
]
you're hopeless, standing up for FoF, what, are you and remake fanboys? I started this thread for demos, and upon receiving one, I got an opinion that I felt was incorrect so I proceeded to post what I personally thought was right (did you even fucking read it?) and you think what I'm saying is immature? Lets move aside from how utterly incorrect your overall perception of immaturity is and lets look at it front on.

Yeah right, I'm a fanboy of fof and asslicker of spr1n, true that. Maybe it's just a coincidence that hazard entered this thread to defend you and insult fof with you? And the fact he has entered almost every single flamebattle you have involved in.. gotta be coincidence! Oh, and my reply was to hazard as you noticed, not to you, so why did you even bothered replying to me? Oh yes, because I am fof's fanboy!
Originally posted by LAGSTERRrRkz[a
]
and remake, you don't like the pushing it to the limit style of gameplay? stop watching wr's then, stop watching trickjumps, stop watching longjumps, stop playing kz, are you a fucking idiot? what do you think the games based on. How many more lame kz movies do I need to watch with the text "breaking boundaries" and other dumb shit about pushing the limits of the hl1 engine, fucking think before you say things and try and realise what the fuck kz is because is throwing your motivation to play the game away really worth the brownie points FoF may or may not give you for standing up for him? Well done though, you seem like a real over-achiever.

Games are based on pushing the limits of the engine? Good to know, I've always heard games are made for having fun playing them, I guess whole the word has lied to me all this time.. And where the fuck did you see I'm standing up for fof? Quote me ONE SENTENCE that clearly aims to standing up for fof (I guess you have to use dictionary again!). And don't even bother replying my post if you don't got that sentence.

I never though you could be so damn low that you can't write an objective reply to me without insulting me.. fuck yeah lagster!

EDIT: Damn, I guess I can't reply to your insulting posts anymore, I already got a warning :(

lagster mapper02/01/2010 18:18

Originally posted by remake`
Originally posted by LAGSTERRrRkz[a
]
you're hopeless, standing up for FoF, what, are you and remake fanboys? I started this thread for demos, and upon receiving one, I got an opinion that I felt was incorrect so I proceeded to post what I personally thought was right (did you even fucking read it?) and you think what I'm saying is immature? Lets move aside from how utterly incorrect your overall perception of immaturity is and lets look at it front on.

Yeah right, I'm a fanboy of fof and asslicker of spr1n, true that. Maybe it's just a coincidence that hazard entered this thread to defend you and insult fof with you? And the fact he has entered almost every single flamebattle you have involved in.. gotta be coincidence! Oh, and my reply was to hazard as you noticed, not to you, so why did you even bothered replying to me? Oh yes, because I am fof's fanboy!
Originally posted by LAGSTERRrRkz[a
]
and remake, you don't like the pushing it to the limit style of gameplay? stop watching wr's then, stop watching trickjumps, stop watching longjumps, stop playing kz, are you a fucking idiot? what do you think the games based on. How many more lame kz movies do I need to watch with the text "breaking boundaries" and other dumb shit about pushing the limits of the hl1 engine, fucking think before you say things and try and realise what the fuck kz is because is throwing your motivation to play the game away really worth the brownie points FoF may or may not give you for standing up for him? Well done though, you seem like a real over-achiever.

Games are based on pushing the limits of the engine? Good to know, I've always heard games are made for having fun playing them, I guess whole the word has lied to me all this time.. And where the fuck did you see I'm standing up for fof? Quote me ONE SENTENCE that clearly aims to standing up for fof (I guess you have to use dictionary again!). And don't even bother replying my post if you don't got that sentence.

I never though you could be so damn low that you can't write an objective reply to me without insulting me.. fuck yeah lagster!

EDIT: Damn, I guess I can't reply to your insulting posts anymore, I already got a warning :(


Why did you only respond to a small section of what a wrote did you completely miss the point or are you unable to let go of your pride and at least try to understand what I wrote? Read it.

You posting against anything in this thread against what either I or hazard wrote is standing up for him, why? because you didn't post a demo, you didn't post any insight you just gave some bullshit response.

Massive LOLs at your horrific attempt at responding to my response to your 'pushing the limits' statement. "its a game for fun" I posted what kz is, you obviously completely missed the point again because exactly like FoF, you posted an opinion that contradicts itself, you play kz in the hopes of getting better right? think again before ever posting 'n1 gj hej :E pr0 wr' in release comments again because you play for fun right, you don't care about pushing the boundaries/limits/whatever?

soul rofl you didn't read either? what didn't you understand sunshine? being called immature by ignorant non-English speaking members? Oh and go back and read again, hazards backed up my opinion because he didn't look at the alias before the post. He was able to read and realise how fucking dumb FoF's opinion on no lj's in kzmod really is. Is that what you guys want? No ljs? Nice, welcome to kz, what FoF says goes!

<3 SuPeRsTrEeEtStYleZ.HnS//lAgAglasgstEREf :EE

soul v2.0 mapper02/01/2010 18:23(edited 02/01/2010 18:31)

hazards backed up my opinion because he didn't look at the alias before the post.



LOL ok I believe you

soul rofl you didn't read either?



actually I read the whole thread, then your big post, and then I read through again while I was writing my post

and that sentence about not understanding immaturity; how is that relevant to me? I never said anything about that

lagster mapper02/01/2010 18:39

You might have to read it again champ, I didn't say anything about immaturity to you. Maybe you thought my rant was aimed at you? If so, it wasn't.

soul v2.0 mapper02/01/2010 18:41

soul rofl you didn't read either? what didn't you understand sunshine? being called immature by ignorant non-English speaking members?



ok maybe when you're talking specifically to me I should assume you're not actually talking to me?

FoF mapper02/01/2010 18:58

4 virgin words http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2251/ohboyf.jpg

ontopic: faker did 253. And I heard about zocker 257cj and faker 256cj.

lagster mapper02/01/2010 19:01

I don't get it.

and @soul;

Are you serious?

You said "wat" In relation to; "you are quick to put hazard and myself down" and "you're hopeless, standing up for FoF"

Which since this was your first post in the thread, I made the assumption that you were asking where I had got the idea of being put down by previous posts that were not mine nor hazards which is why I posted this; "being called immature by ignorant non-English speaking members?"

Read it again or?

soul v2.0 mapper02/01/2010 19:05

OMG like you didn't understand!!!11

I was making the point that you say it's hopeless/pathetic/whatever to stand up for someone but when you stand up for hazard it's alright!

I thought that was pretty obvious to understand but apparently not

lagster mapper02/01/2010 19:10

That wasn't the point at all. Read it again.

I didn't realise fake/false/sheepish/whatever opinions was the same as 'standing up for someone' or something? whatever your arguing. We aren't even on the same page mate.

soul v2.0 mapper02/01/2010 19:21

No we aren't on the same page, mate. You're confused about my points which is making me confused about the counter-points you're making.

And no I won't read it again. I can't be bothered to read a long passage full of pointless warbling on a subject that isn't even important to start off with.

P.S. why didn't you post this topic on the kzmod.com forums instead?

TlofT03/01/2010 03:01

damn man this thread blew up. to quickly share my own views, any game, any engine, will always have people trying to push the limits. whether it be normal cs where you have amazing pro players, kz where you have lj geeks, great bhoppers, console games, where people know all these little tricks and can actually aim with a joystick (noobs), someone will always try to perfect a game. plain and simple.

everyone is entitled to their opinion, some people don't deliver it very well. thats a big problem with a forum full of kids, being run by slightly older kids; everyone thinks they are right, and for the most part, is pretty closed minded., so of course there will be arguments.

and fof, i dont get the virgin words either

puppetz mapper03/01/2010 03:33(edited 03/01/2010 03:34)

I have to admit, I haven't read this whole thread, it seems like there's too much flaming in it...
Hazard and lagster, have you tried playing KZMod? The bhops works almost like AXN for CS 1.6, and you can also bhop pretty high. That means that pushing longjumps to the limits is quite useless, since the biggest distance you could get with a lj could be made with just a few bhops and some "not-so-perfect" strafes.

TlofT03/01/2010 05:53

well puppetz thats the same in 1.6 isn't it? even a 257lj is less than a 230 lj into a 230 bhop, neither of which require good strafes. its just another aspect of the game to test in my mind.

kz[a] Hazard03/01/2010 07:51

@puppetz yes ofc ive played it, and yeah i understand that the physics of the game lead it in a more bhop oriented direction.

but its the same in kz, nobody NEEDS to be able to do 256 ljs, you mostly never see more than a 240 gap, but people geek it, people enjoy it, and its also enjoying to watch it evolve.

THATS what annoyed me about people saying they hope it doesnt get developed - especially when one of those people was one of the lj geeks that basically pioneered 1.6 ljing.

just like in kz, ljing is a part of kzmod, whether its axn or not - strafing and prestrafe still makes you jump further on blocks (i even managed some 254-257 lj stats last night)

it may not be useful to complete maps, but thats the same for 1.6 kz.

i understand that i can be explosive, and that i seem like im flaming for no reason, but i explained in the newspost about the tutorial - thats just how i operate. Sure its probably not the best way to go about it, but its the way i choose to go.

and even though alot of miscs on the site just seem to think im an immature flamer, i like to think that some of the more intelligent people, and admins understand where i am coming from.

TlofT03/01/2010 07:56

i dont know where you're coming from hazard, being in jail must rattle your brains.

puppetz mapper03/01/2010 15:45(edited 03/01/2010 15:47)

Originally posted by TlofT
well puppetz thats the same in 1.6 isn't it? even a 257lj is less than a 230 lj into a 230 bhop, neither of which require good strafes. its just another aspect of the game to test in my mind.


What I meant was that if you bhop a few times on the ground, you will get so much speed that you will (in one single jump) fly maybe 400 or 500 units.

@Hazard: Something like count jump (which is a result of the longjumps developing) is now used quite often in CS 1.6 kz, since it opened the doors for a lot of new shortcuts, and made most other ones easier. The double cj however, seems to be a little useless, and only about pushing the limits. My point is that, however you develop longjumps in KZMod, you will (most definitely) not get any greater distance than you can with bhops. I believe that longjumps has been geeked 'cause people in CS 1.6 believe that it could be more useful than bhopping. And it is, for most regular jumps in the maps, easier to perform all the jumps with longjump, especially because bhops doesn't give you the same jumpheight.
You might ask yourself how many times you see the same names in the longjump records-, and the map records section. Not many, eh? I believe that people wouldn't have as much fun geeking longjumps, if they already knew they could fly 5-10 times longer with bhopping. It wouldn't give them the same "kick".

heiss03/01/2010 17:11

I didnt say thats immature to tell your own opinion ... and its ok for me if you dont accept other opinion.. but its not ok to be so aggressive and rude when anyone has not exactly the same opinion as you.. and that has nothing to do with any "fanboy"-thing.. i just dont like your attidude against other members... thats my whole point in everything I have said

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