Speed Question
18/01/2010 18:01Do you loose speed/slowdown when youre bhoping with 300+ speed or is that only with bhop-lj when youre prestrafing?
Ofc you loose, if not, then its axn.Try to check it with /speed command.
When you reach 300u/s speed bhopping you will slow down to 240-250, don't remember correctly. Otherwise you could gain endlessy speed (like in versions 1.3 and below) with bhop.
yeah, 240 i think. really gotta ask this napz? lol
18/01/2010 19:15just checked it with /speed command and i doesnt slowdown to 240-250 for me.
do a bhop lj so you end with high pre, jump, but dont strafe right away.
18/01/2010 19:47Originally posted by NAPZDo you loose speed/slowdown when youre bhoping with 300+ speed or is that only with bhop-lj when youre prestrafing?
300+ pre is just bullshit :P
This all started when we discussed about this with NAPZ while recording. (He just couldn't believe it) NAPZ you just have to admit this and use it as advantage in future. You will now get alot better when you understand this. WRs coming! :D
cant beliave that NAPZ is asking this :P
yeah, its logical, when you are 300+ speed, you slowdown, or it would be same as AXN!
napz pwns by gaining slowdown back with strafes :D
so, if i bhop with 290speed, then with my strafes; i got to gain less that 10 gain so i don't reach over 300 in my bhops?
or i gain over 300 in after a bhop, then i get 240pre, i need to strafe to get 50+gain for 290pre?
If your prestrafe while-bhopping gets above 300, it drops down to 240 BUT it doesn't actually drop to the equal 240, becauseat the time it drops you are strafing, so it raises again.
I have another theory of bhopping faster when not doing only perfect bhops. As i noticed while playing hns, when i get 300+ speed and I make not perfect bhop, my speed drops down only to ~270-280, not to 240 and that's the way you get 300+ speed every bhop. I don't know if that's true but I bet speedometer doesn't lie to me.
the speed you see is the speed after jump and after first strafe. IT DROPS down to 240 for while but you gain it back.
which low prestrafe gaining is easier than higher pre.
Originally posted by uffo.If your prestrafe while-bhopping gets above 300, it drops down to 240 BUT it doesn't actually drop to the equal 240, becauseat the time it drops you are strafing, so it raises again.
I have another theory of bhopping faster when not doing only perfect bhops. As i noticed while playing hns, when i get 300+ speed and I make not perfect bhop, my speed drops down only to ~270-280, not to 240 and that's the way you get 300+ speed every bhop. I don't know if that's true but I bet speedometer doesn't lie to me.
thats cuz u got for example 330 maxspeed, then u hit the ground, but u'r already 1-2 frames onground(so u jump like 1 msec later) and u get for example 40 slowdown on these frames (cause u are landed) so u'r speed drops to 290, but u jump instantly.. and thats how u get 290 pre, RyderC showed me some time ago a demo with good bhops(script), everytime he gets like 340 maxspeed, and everytime he was getting like 295 pre.. lately I did 1 where u get 360 maxspeed and 299 pre everytime
omg
Only Grrr give right answer.
for human always have 293-295 pre on bhoping possible. Just practice for train good timing.
There's a formula in engine that slowdowns you...
I can just say - the more speed(dont care horizontal or vertical) you have, the less you slowdowned.
For example I will be falling with 2000 u/s and horizonal speed like 310 then I will be slowdowned only by 0.09 times...
And vice versa if i'll made something like bhopping on stairs(each next jump will be made when my vertical speed is close to 0) I will get slowdowned from 310 u/s to 195 u/s
Originally posted by I RUSSIA!I can just say - the more speed(dont care horizontal or vertical) you have, the less you slowdowned.
Sorry, IDK about the vertical, but in horizontal u got decrease in %, if u get decreased by +jump its an other story.. but about landing onground / ducking speed decrease I think that its in %, cuz I did some tests:
I runned forward with 250 u/s, started doubleducking, and got 10u/s decrease..
then I runned forward with 450u/s with doubleducking, but my speed started to decrease to 432u/s(in your theory I must get 440 or less drops)
Maybe some coder or amxx scripter could solve the question. :P
okay, know i am curious, how you runned forward with 450 u/s? :P
in hns you can use doubleduck for lose speed and bhopping after.
Originally posted by ikmokay, know i am curious, how you runned forward with 450 u/s? :P
in hns you can use doubleduck for lose speed and bhopping after.
His uber groundstrafe script i guess :p
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