XJ coin system

@ A3tius : and how do you define the average group, and the noob group?

OT: great idea. 300 sounds great :P

Glad that you ppl liked the 1st part of my proposal. Here's the 2nd part which mainly concerns the division of the various categories :

Elite Group : All current WR holders of XJ. This is perhaps the easiest to classify :P

Average Group : This is perhaps the toughest group to define but here are a few suggestions as to who should qualify for this group :
1. Retired / Past Record Holders [This system may bring them back to recording too :)]
2. All WR holders from all national kz websites like kzfr, kz-arg, etc and also clan sites like phoogi, insilo, etc and ofc cosy-climbing.
3. All past and present cup winners of the above mentioned websites.

Amateur Group : Those who do not qualify for the above 2 groups would be eligible for this group. Probably there would be ppl from this group who are equivalent to those of the Average group but did / does not have the motivation / time to record. This system may instigate them to take the game more seriously.

I think all the 3 groups can be pretty much distinguished from each other following the aforementioned guidelines. Once the system is put to actual practice, players may be shifted to higher groups according to their performance. Say for example, take my example. I start in the amateur group and somehow manage to get a VIP status for a month. The next month onwards I wont be able to compete from the Amateur group, instead I'd be competing from the Average Group. This way, VIP status wont be easy and at the same time there would be a constant driving force to push the players to practice and get better :)

A3T!U$` that sounds good in theory, but unfortunately it's very unpractical. We would need a couple of admins ready 24/7 for each time someone wants to join the server and play pub, to categorize them in the correct group...which probably would need some "investigation" for each player...or some kind of page on the website where people register themselfes to each group, after which a admin needs to go through each player and somehow check if the information they typed in is correct and if they truly should be in the group they registered to.
Seeing as the XJ servers are pretty popular and have players from all over the world and people who don't even know that this website exists, this could be very complicated and time consuming. If this was more like a tournament your system would work better, but because it's more like people spontaneously joining a server and playing for a couple of mins, its hard to administrate :/.

Therefore, maybe a middle ground is the best solution. And to me 300 points/coins sounds like a average number that most people would be able to reach within a resonable amount of time.

omilo, to set the wolrd recorders group I think a txt file or something can be made with the world record holders here at XJ and make a plugin that separates the nicknames or the steamIDs from the rest of the players.

Everyone one of you has got one valid point or the other, and I do agree that although the suggestions I have given is almost flawless, their practical application is tough no doubt but...

I am not at all into plugin making and so dont know whether or not the creation of the following plugins are possible. Plz lemme know whether they are possible or not. If possible, the aforementioned points can easily be solved. If not possible, lemme know which ones and I'd try to give alternate solutions

First of all, before this system is put to practice, a formal announcement should be made describing all the rules so that everyone has a fair and complete knowledge of how the system works. This is to avoid any confusions amongst players and would also to serve the purpose of preventing complications and save the hard work of admins a lot in the later stages.

Secondly, since if there are 3 servers, dedicate one 2 for pub. One for the elite and the average players and one for the amateurs. Alternately, you can have predefined timings for each category. One server could be kept free to run in the usual way, although it should have the option to count the coins.

Lastly, going by koukouz's suggestion, a plugin should be created and included in every server that should 1st ask the players to register for their respective groups and continue.

Also, even if there are thousands of players across the world competing for VIP status, not all would make it to the required target. Its probably a handful of them who would make it. We just have to verify them. No wasting time over verifying each and every guy who joins the server and competes. It wont be that tough cuz once we have the names and the countries from where they are we just have to chk their national kz website and prominent websites like cosy climbing to verify their category eligibility. If anyone provides false info, he'd be banned for the month from the servers and his coins reset. A plugin like that wont be that tough to create I guess. And even the admins wont have to work hard on it. The mapchanging can be done by player voting in the server itself, so that constant monitoring isn't required.

As you might have noticed, I keep on emphasizing that amateurs should be encouraged more and more to participate. Amateurs of today would progress and be the pr0s of tomorrow. And moreover even XJ would have the satisfaction that at least it helped to create at least one good kreedzer a month. I know many of you would be opposing this considering it as a waste of time but still I think its worth the shot. If XJ wants, I'd volunteer to chk the amateur section all by myself. [Ya..am used to chking at least 25-30 n00b demos a day just for the sake of promoting kz back in our country :P]

Hope I have been able to eliminate the problems that you have mentioned. If there's still more, we can always think and come up with solutions :)

I think 2 categories would be enough.

Follow koukouz's suggestion could do a system which will automaticly determine wr holders to pro group when you're joining the server and others players are just "amateur" group.

Originally posted by faker

Having players choose their appropriate class will probably not work out in 90% of the cases, because they can lie about their class to have a lower limit for the coins

There is a possible way to find out about "cheaters" for those classes, that is everyone who wants the XJ coins gotta sign up their steamID at their XJ profile, here at the site? Also see how many XJ coins they have on the profile, visible for all users.

then admins could check for possible multi accs or fake accounts..

this would obviously give some extra work for the admins, but also keep the coincheaters away..

I think that class systems is pretty retarded, it's unfair.

You can also add that if the time is better than wr, he or she receives 25 points.
400 would be enough.