Wall-slide bhop jump [Kkz Jump]
Don't know if there is already thread like this, but I found out that with wall-slide bhop you can do 245+ stats without strafes and standup, just sliding a vecrical wall to gain speed in air.
In 20 min of practise I've done 243 stats:
BJ Distance: 243.379760 Maxspeed: 334.955474 (35.437) Prestrafe: 299.517974 Strafes: 1 Sync: 100
1 35.437 0.000 100.0 100
So, here is the demo, check it out http://www.sendspace.com/file/oxrx8q
Edit: Here is another one kkzjump, 245 distance with standup: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1bqxry
SBJ Distance: 245.842636 Maxspeed: 337.746520 (37.968) Prestrafe: 299.778289 Strafes: 1 Sync: 100
1 37.968 0.000 100.0 100
umm.. okay that was weird
Originally posted by -F/m'Z- scR`Don't know if there is already thread like this, but I found out that with wall-slide bhop you can do 245+ stats without strafes and standup, just sliding a vecrical wall to gain speed in air.
In 20 min of practise I've done 243 stats:
BJ Distance: 243.379760 Maxspeed: 334.955474 (35.437) Prestrafe: 299.517974 Strafes: 1 Sync: 100
1 35.437 0.000 100.0 100
So, here is the demo, check it out http://www.sendspace.com/file/oxrx8q
This is so called "kkz jump" about which you might have already heard. Koukouz found it first, and he did 246+ stats with it =)
OLD. kkz did 248 I think. The explanation to this is coming up soon I think.
It was done way before koukouz (/officially/) came up with it, but noone cared to name it. (and naming it kkz-jump when it's obviously not new and done by several other peoples before is kinda lame in my honest opinion ;/)
oh k, close the thread then.
Originally posted by -F/m'Z- scR`oh k, close the thread then.
theres no reason to close this thread untill we get some explanation
27/08/2010 00:02Originally posted by zteuqIt was done way before koukouz (/officially/) came up with it, but noone cared to name it. (and naming it kkz-jump when it's obviously not new and done by several other peoples before is kinda lame in my honest opinion ;/)
Let's answer this. First of all I found this around 3 years ago or more, I wasn't checking XJ and stuff at that time so I didn't know at all about it (if it was found already ofc), I used it in my first wrs with my old nick ro0st3r, if you have my sn_mountsnow demo made years ago you will see I'm using it on almost every single jump. At that time, I really didn't think even once "oh cool I found a technique"
When I came back to kz last year, I hadn't forgotten this weird wall jump, but when I was doing it on public, everybody (yes, everybody) was always saying "wtf?" "how you do that?"... after some time, I showed it to zhady, who started to use it for some jumps, and I don't really remember how, we (really don't know who :/) started to call it kkzjump... that was really nothing serious, but it became somehow popular with this name so it's just some kind of joke name. When mentioned in the weekly, it was also meant to be a 2nd degree name.
Anyway, I wanted to make this become more popular, so I sent it to faker who made a thread in the admin forum about it. Admins seem negative about calling it a technique, which is really sad, because my only purpose with it was to help players who can't strafe very well to do very hard jumps/combos easily. What I want to say, is that I think it should at least deserve a newspost where the "how to do it" is explained. Though I think it won't happen, because some persons can't see beyond the name of "kkzjump", it's like an allergy. Call it however you want, I don't care lol; but I think denying that I promoted it is very stupid
i have just tried this jump hm... not very hard :S.... little complicated... like kkz said "I think it should at least deserve a newspost where the "how to do it" is explained."
btw, now I've mastered that kkzjump, really easy to do 245 stats
Iv seen it done on a russian Lj server about 2 years ago x_X but tought it wasnt anything special since the guy doing it did like 243 or somethin any was the concept was around for a long time for shure but over looked pritty mutch any one can make the connection that if u can gain speed while wall runing just by pure angle ajustment u may gain speed in air as well x_X gues it was over looked or just not used that mutch...
I want explanation about what is doin' hl engine to have a such long distance ?
An explain from eDark would be cool :]
Who the fuck cares who invented, or improved that technique lol, the only who invented is valve.
DCJ was also used by bibo (or who?) way before fof's 267 i think, but no one rlly cares, cuz what's the matter? :D
27/08/2010 22:23still, count ftw
ahahaha "kkz jump"? Its more like "bibo-did-it jump" :D
this way of speeding up is a key how to do ej#2 :D
I think whoever discovered the fast run trick (running sideways along the wall) deserves the respect, not someone who developed a jump out of it.
It's the first time I'm hearing of this kkz jump and even I did it before (to note: I kreedz since 1 year only). Regular speed with usp/knife is 250 units but the fast run trick allows you to increase your speed up to 277 Units. When I first heard about that trick it was a logical conclusion to me that your jumps would be about 20-25 units longer too.
Ummm, ask SilverNinja about it, hes a lot more technical about it. He can max out at like 253 stats. He might come in here and explain, (not trying to offend you kkz) but he can explain it a lot better, and has a certain way you can get a very high amount of stats.
so basically you run along the wall and do a bhop? wouldn't really say it's a "new" jump.... people have been doing it with ljs etc for years :S
It's not like fast running, cause you start the jump with 250 pre, then you release W and hold strafe key, to slide to wall. If you have correct angle between wall and your crosshair then you will gain speed.
Also I have thoughts about the count jump using this tecnique. Jump with cj gaining over 340 ms then landing with double duck and doing wall-slide jump with 299 pre. So it would be able to do 270 with only strafe.
Kinda like that
Originally posted by -F/m'Z- scR`It's not like fast running, cause you start the jump with 250 pre, then you release W and hold strafe key, to slide to wall. If you have correct angle between wall and your crosshair then you will gain speed.
Also I have thoughts about the count jump using this tecnique. Jump with cj gaining over 340 ms then landing with double duck and doing wall-slide jump with 299 pre. So it would be able to do 270 with only strafe.
Kinda like that
i was practicing this like 20 minutes, and no results. it is very strange for me ;/
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