F.C. Barcelona = F.C UEFA
29/04/2011 19:15(edited 29/04/2011 19:17)After long discussions in the chatbox I came up with this idea when jusuuh said that this discussion should be moved to the forums. So here it is.
I'll try to prove that Barcelona are beeing adored by UEFA or the opposite. Because this has went to far. First Chelsea then Inter and now Madrid?
Sergio Ramos, Xabi Alonso and Iniesta situation.
Those three players were in the same position not long time ago. Sergio Ramos and Xabi Alonso took a yellow card on purpose so they would miss a unnecessary game in the group-stage.
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/221/champions-league/2010/11/30/2239292/jose-mourinho-suspended-for-two-matches-ramos-alonso
As you can see all those players got suspended and got fined.
Mourinho: 2-match suspension
Ramos: 2-match suspension & fined €20,000
Alonso: 2-match suspension & fined €20,000
Casillas: fined €10,000
Dudek: fined €5,000
Real Madrid C.F: fined €120,000
TOTAL: €175,000
UEFA didin't hesitate suspending and fining those players and the team on this amount of money; meanwhile Iniesta, who plays in Barcelona who was in the same position didin't get ANY suspension or fine nor did Barcelona.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2011/04/20/2450198/barcelonas-andres-iniesta-eligible-for-champions-league-semi
Sounds weird? But it's true.
The semi-final between Chelsea and Barcelona in the 2nd leg which ended 1-1 was just unbelivable.
This clip explains it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5x0iM0oQps&feature=related
Also, if I remember right, Barcelona got a penalty for handball and that was only one time unlike Chelsea.
As Drogba said, "This is a disgrace". The penalties was just so obvious, like really, you can not dismiss these situations.
Barcelona moves on to the finals in a unaccepted way, but hey, what can we do?
Barcelona - Inter Semi-final 2nd leg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRpKcStGwmU
It's a shame. Their attempt at making Inter play with 10 men and try to win didin't work. As i've been saying, Mourinho is a GENIUS.
Real Madrid - Barcelona Semi-final 1st leg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAtbnfgbM4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oRXFRl6QE&feature=related
I have nothing to say.
A summary of what i'm trying to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBT7UGO5bw&feature=player_embedded
I guess you guys are getting what im trying to say, so tell me what you think. If you agree or completly think something else.
I think this should end, because its killing the sport.
(Got tired at the end so I didin't care so much)
Agree 100% with you, that really shouldn't be ;/ Football should be like hockey. Referee stops the time and check videos to make a verdict. But the main thing is that uefa shouldn't favourize teams ;s.
29/04/2011 19:24I know, those rules have been used in like 100 years (Or maybe i'm wrong but you get the point), like come on. We are living in 2011, we got eletronics and stuff to use.
Finally, you made this thread.
Facts are facts, I must agree with you.
I'd like to say one more thing about the the last match:
Guardiola asked the UEFA in order to replace the referee (a portuguese one who was to close of Mourinho, said Guardiola) by Mr. Stark(A Messi big fan e.g. : " Messi is the best football player in the world.I wish he could give me his jersey"). Of course, UEFA repsonded positively to his request.
Oh btw, a video of "THE GOD" Messi : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_77lw4hoQ8w&feature=share
Wow... calm down Real Madrid fans... I am not a fan of F.C. Barcelona, nor Real Madrid, but I really think you should relax a little. Cmon. If you look carefully through every club in Europe you can find examples like these. If some guys really wanted to I'm sure they could find matches where Barcelona had some occurences where the referee made a mistake or two in the favor of the opponing team.
If you really want to and try hard enough you can 'prove' almost anything uncertain in this world.
I only comment the Alves thing; look at his angle even tho he Pepe didn't touch it, it must've been hurt a little even by ball. I admit, he actec in that. Anyways we have seen multiple red cards and almost always in cases like this yellow card because just too high speed and possibility to hurt another player (it's in rules even you wouldn't hit the other player). Pepe spoke the red card for himself, watch the original video.. Red card didn't come right after the tackle. Anyways little acting from Alves, but you can't say nothing about it when you have Cristiano Ronaldo, who has won 17 Grammy awards with crying :-)
Still, VISCA! <3:)
@finzEr Maybe first moment when Messi got frustated? Even though ball didn't hit the audience.. You can also link the "few" moments when CR has got frustated;d
// but anyways, FC Barcelona is the best team in the world //
29/04/2011 21:26CR would NEVER shoot the ball to the Barca-fans or other. But if he would he (would be suspended and) would get a yellow card for sure.
Originally posted by g0ziCR would NEVER shoot the ball to the Barca-fans or other. But if he would he (would be suspended and) would get a yellow card for sure.
You don't believe that yourself. CR is one of the most immature "skilled" football players I have seen. You can see it from the way he acts at every situation :/ And still the thing is that Messi didn't shoot at fans, he hitted the ad banner/wall there. But yes, I admit it was very bad behaviour anyways, but you can't see that often, first time I saw Messi did something like that. But that doesn't have anything to do with his skills.
ohi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RINJobmWeFc&feature=related
I'm not a CR7 fan, jusuuh, really not. I think that if he didn't waste his energy crying and whining, he would be an awesome player.
I agree that we can find many cases where some teams lost because of bad refereeings
But the thing is that referees/UEFA helped Barca win their match many times in a short time especially in Champions League which is the most important competition for all the european football clubs.
That's what we tried to say. A lot of things have to change starting with the video refereeing.
ohi thuxy
look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9GLU9hNgVE&feature=related dont know which one is fake , but one thing is obviously , if you want to win an UCL trophy u have to be better than your opponent on every side , acting , fooling the referee is normal , the psychological side is almost as imp as the football part , they are playing for millions of euros , for millions of fans , for history , for those sides doesnt matter the way that a match is won .the only thin that matters is victory
Originally posted by ballingWow... calm down Real Madrid fans... I am not a fan of F.C. Barcelona, nor Real Madrid, but I really think you should relax a little. Cmon. If you look carefully through every club in Europe you can find examples like these. If some guys really wanted to I'm sure they could find matches where Barcelona had some occurences where the referee made a mistake or two in the favor of the opponing team.
If you really want to and try hard enough you can 'prove' almost anything uncertain in this world.
I am not a fan of real. I just want justice football.
Originally posted by jusuuhI only comment the Alves thing; look at his angle even tho he Pepe didn't touch it, it must've been hurt a little even by ball. I admit, he actec in that. Anyways we have seen multiple red cards and almost always in cases like this yellow card because just too high speed and possibility to hurt another player (it's in rules even you wouldn't hit the other player). Pepe spoke the red card for himself, watch the original video.. Red card didn't come right after the tackle. Anyways little acting from Alves, but you can't say nothing about it when you have Cristiano Ronaldo, who has won 17 Grammy awards with crying :-)
Still, VISCA! <3:)
@finzEr Maybe first moment when Messi got frustated? Even though ball didn't hit the audience.. You can also link the "few" moments when CR has got frustated;d
// but anyways, FC Barcelona is the best team in the world //
lol dude messi hit someones in face. Anyway no mather, he definitely wanted to shoot into fans.
and best in what? in golf or billard?
'mello I can confirm that when I get raw video out from there (not from Real video editors..), gotta import the recording from digibox to pc :P But I think Pepe hit him a little anyways :d But like I said before, red card came cause of talking. It just would've been yellow card for dangerous play..
Are you serious jusuuh?
The only ones I can see talk to the referee after the accident are Pique, Pedro (who must've seen the whole thing btw, i mean he's a defender, right?), Puyol, Xavi, anda couple of more that I can't identify... It's atleast 6 Barca players around the referee, and 3 more real madrid players, Pepe walks straight away from the crowd...
Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6VzoN4Px8
But you're still right, the red card came from talking, but from Barcelona players.
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refelona
So you found like 10 moments when referee is unfair in Barcelona's favor? WOW DUDE UNBELIEVABLE. I'm sure that such moments can be found in favor of every top club.
Originally posted by zhadyAre you serious jusuuh?
The only ones I can see talk to the referee after the accident are Pique, Pedro (who must've seen the whole thing btw, i mean he's a defender, right?), Puyol, Xavi, anda couple of more that I can't identify... It's atleast 6 Barca players around the referee, and 3 more real madrid players, Pepe walks straight away from the crowd...
Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6VzoN4Px8
But you're still right, the red card came from talking, but from Barcelona players.
Hi http://i53.tinypic.com/fegl20.jpg
Yeah, didn't say who talked ;)
But still anyways, we won, I don't bother to care how. Next tuesday intresting match coming :) And after all these things, you must be nuts if you don't admit Barcelona is and have been the best team in this planet for multiple years. Let the wins (even without UEFA's help) and the trophies tell you that story. But anyways I have been chewing this topic for multiple year's in different places, I won't bother to follow this anymore k thx bye:)
some videos throwing together a few clips where the ref is with barca = NEW WORLD ORDER OF FOOTBALL.
u can find clips like that of every team in the world.
30/04/2011 14:40LOL, you can't.
Just look at the Chelsea - Barcelona match. The referee can't miss that and if he did, why the fuck did they chose him to be the referee at this semi-final?
Same as Real madrid, Stark was nominated the worst referee in Bundes-Liga by the players. So that doesn't make any sence.
Stark is a F.C.B. big fan. It actually makes sence :)
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