Weekly challenge.
This idea just came to me, one big problem with todays KZ is that there's not much incentive for people to start recording. Insilio had something close to this idea while back where they challenged people to beat a map and gave points to the top10 times. I went on a slightly different, more effortless way:
Each week, after or in the WR release admins should randomly choose a map which should be beaten before the next WR release, or within and timelimit because releases don't work a certain schedule.
The current maps best time (one submitted) should be able to be tracked via the XJ main page (nothing like XJ currently has, you can see the submitted times prio to a release. Because not all can see them).
Let's say this has been going on for a while, there's a top5 such as the current wr record holders have. If the #1 would have won let's say 13 of these points (challenges won), he could use each challenge he won to purchase his prize. Probably the best thing XJ can offer instead of money is server VIP. Point is that he could save his points and use them later. The prize is debatable, should one point = one day, two days or vip. Even what the prize is, is debatable.
I would see this a pretty effortless entertainment admins could provide. Only thing you'd have to do is random the map each week and implement the best-time-tracker, also the possible top5 list.
XJ had the tournaments long time ago which imo was a huge hit and people played more. But this time you wouldn't need radon to a bunch of different maps :P
PS. Oh and if we'd like to support trickjumping, a person (admin or someone assinged this job) could select a specific trickjump for people to perform. A person who does it with AWP should be rated as better then one doing it with para. If there's two of the same or more points should be divided or there should be a dealbreaker trickjump. Or there could be 5 different trickjumps each challenge and the rating would go easier imo.
Whole trickjumping idea would require much much more effort then just randoming a map for players to beat, but would be an interesting thing to see both of them.
PPS. Please brainstorm with me, make this challenge thing actually be in XJ. I think it would aspire to something great and fun!
Cool idea but its alot of work and the person who select maps and so on must know if there is chance to improve it, trickjumps - agian the person should check if it isnt easy enought and what if 2 or more do all the tricks. what would be the rewards is another problem vip or admin on server isnt that much thes days..the point is its huge project cant be done in day or two..
30/07/2011 16:43(edited 30/07/2011 16:44)[blockquote]Each week, after or in the WR release admins should randomly choose a map which should be beaten before the next WR release, or within and timelimit because releases don't work a certain schedule.[/blockquote]
do you mean a map that was beaten in that release, or just a random map from the recordslist?
if its a map from that release it'd be shit for the one who beat it, imagine if he spent weeks for a first wr and then theres a challenge on it for "better" players to beat it in the next release :/
30/07/2011 17:03Originally posted by kayne[blockquote]Each week, after or in the WR release admins should randomly choose a map which should be beaten before the next WR release, or within and timelimit because releases don't work a certain schedule.[/blockquote]
do you mean a map that was beaten in that release, or just a random map from the recordslist?
if its a map from that release it'd be shit for the one who beat it, imagine if he spent weeks for a first wr and then theres a challenge on it for "better" players to beat it in the next release :/
Im pretty sure he means that it sohuld just be in the same post as the release :)
Originally posted by OverCool idea but its alot of work and the person who select maps and so on must know if there is chance to improve it, trickjumps - agian the person should check if it isnt easy enought and what if 2 or more do all the tricks. what would be the rewards is another problem vip or admin on server isnt that much thes days..the point is its huge project cant be done in day or two..
Over, how is it alot of work for the person who randoms a map? All he has to do is basically /roll 585. And tbh 0000 maps could be removed from the list. And I also said that TJ system would be alot more work, I ment it could be added along with the weekly map challenge if people would get more excited doing tj's then wrs. The beauty of it was that if XJ admins have spare time, they could find the TJs and if not. Do the map randoming which is so much less even almost no work.
And just so you know there is still no unbeatable record on XJ ANY wr can be improved, always, just dumb luck in the end.
Like I said if 2 players do all the tricks even with same weapons they share the points. ½ points per each, and there's the possibility of making a dealbreaker tj (maybe an extra tj that whoever performs it until next challenge wins). And if the players choose their own weapons there are many variations how points are given. You could also rate the 5 different tj's as extreme-hard etc... Which would mean if one does extreme with awp and others with knife and someone else does extreme with knife and others with AK you can still count the points if every variation has been taken into account.
I'm honestly willing to do the point system if this thing is ever coming to XJ, but first I'd like to see how many thumbs up this idea gets. Imo the map wrs are the more important thing here.
Originally posted by kaynedo you mean a map that was beaten in that release, or just a random map from the recordslist?
if its a map from that release it'd be shit for the one who beat it, imagine if he spent weeks for a first wr and then theres a challenge on it for "better" players to beat it in the next release :/
Recordlist of course. There could be even a rule of not beating a map that is in the newest release. It'd be wrong for XJ to give incentive of beating the newcomers wr :). There's plenty of maps to random on even if we take the two newest released wrs off the list.
I was saying that the weekly challenge could be in the wr release post itself or in a separate post. Maybe in the weeklies (though haven't seen a weekly in a long time now).
Yes admins dont have spare time..We allready have that 'motivation' to beat maps kinda (wr's) weekly demos release,runs of the week and maybe movies..
The thing im most worried about this project is REWARDS who make them, what they are, XJ has cups and so on where u can win as i said vip/admins, that isnt that much, i mean theres no inspire doing it, when its kinda worthless in my opinion.
in total well for good idea
+1 Good luck.
Over, if there was motivation to continue jumping, nobody would leave this place or stop playing. It's obvious players don't have enough motivation. It's also clear that no one thing especially this idea will alone change that. But many changes are needed to be done to keep KZ alive, people get bored easilly.
If you've read my previous posts, you'd know I said that best that XJ can offer is vip time, money is out of the question.
Just because there is XJ cups to get you that VIP time doesn't mean there shouldn't be any other way to get time to be a VIP. Getting VIP time via cups can be a major time killer. Anyway, playing cups is nothing like recording a wr. This gives people a different opportunity to get that VIP time.
Also I said, IF admins have spare time they could work on TJ challenge. And that's only an IF, so it's totally up to them.
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