weapon speed lj question
If you do a jump with an M4 for example, does adding 8% to the distance translate roughly into the distance you could of done with the usp?
Like 224 with an M4 would be somewhere around 241-242 with the usp? Or a 227 with an m4 somewhere around 245 with the usp? (cus it sure as hell feels like a 245)
I was just wondering if this was a good way to get a rough estimate on these jumps.
Thanks.
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1719/cs16weaponspeed9nl.gif
Maybe this would help you.
Speak no further.
nono, i know what the weapon speeds are, (how else would i know that the M4 is 8% slower? :P )
What im asking is if you add 8% to, say, a 227 long jump, does it come out roughly to what that would be with the USP?
227 + 8% = 245 .. does that = usp distance or does the jump mechanics work a bit differently then common mathmatics?
Let's say you make 224 with m4 and m4 makes you 8% slower. A 242 would be equal to that with usp...
I can't come up with a reason why it shouldn't be possible to measure jumps like that... but jumps with different weapons got another feeling, so it might not be exact.
thanks Ichirou, that's exactly what i was wondering, it seems logical that 224 +8% would be ~241 - 242. But it doesn't 'feel' the same as a 241-242 with the usp, so that's why i was wondering if it was a good way to get a somewhat close idea as to the distance.
[ Edited Mon Jan 08 2007, 11:58PM ]
imo it makes feelin like on high ljs
and the speed is 8% lower on THE GROUND, i dont know how is it IN AIR, if the strafes give u less speed etc..
I don't think the weapon would affect the acceleration you get from your strafes, so you'll gain speed at about the same rate, but it would affect at what speed you'll be when you start strafing, as you'll have a slower prestrafe.
I dunno, i've done 246 with the usp and was wondering if a 227 with an m4 was about a 245, and a 224 with an m4 was about 241-242 cus i did it 3 times in a row.
Well with the scout you are 4% faster but you jump 3,15% longer with it.
Guess i can just wait for Faker and his all-knowing everything about everything conserning jump mechanics to post :D
He probably keeps HL1 physics tables in a diary somewhere for easy readability. >.>
well.. i had the same question as u arokh...
it's not important but interesting
it's not exactly for sure like some others said
but if u say 220 AWP -> if u add 16% u get ~255 so its cs. right^^ (now we know taht 255 is possible :D :D )
but lets wait for faker or someone else as u alreday said
Some time aho i posted this question.. when Balky pwned Tedbundy's jump with famas..
Lenth of jump = 245 units, famas speed = 96%.
245 + (245/100)*4 = 245 + 9.8 = 254.8 units lenght of jump if BalkY jumped with knife.
And i think that is wrong.. u can't transalte famas with usp jumps..
[ Edited Tue Jan 09 2007, 12:38AM ]
ye seak did 245 too , many ppl did , and that means that its not exact cuz it cant be 254.8 lol
Some time aho i posted this question.. when Balky pwned Tedbundy's jump with famas..
Lenth of jump = 245 units, famas speed = 96%.
245 + (245/100)*4 = 245 + 9.8 = 254.8 units lenght of jump if BalkY jumped with knife.
And i think that is wrong.. u can't transalte famas with usp jumps..
So probably you'll gain as much speed in air with knife/usp as with any other weapon... but the prestrafe with heavier weapons will make it slower. I guess... I'd like to hear thopas opinion about this :)
hmm .. i think the difference is that while you move 4% slower with the famas, your strafe acceleration isn't 4% slower but rather the same speed as with a knife.
In order for the famas at 245 to = 254.8 with the knife, everything would have to be 4% slower.
Your movement speed, your air speed, your air accelerate, etc. But since it seems only your ground speed is slower. This would be why you can only jump around 3.15% farther with the scout, since your ground speed is 4% faster, but your air accelerate and everything else isn't 4% faster.
I dunno, all i know is that 227 with an m4 isn't easy hehe.
[ Edited Tue Jan 09 2007, 10:05AM ]
the rec with m4 is 235 or so ...
235 with the m4 .. that's madness :P
it should feel as normal 250-251 , so 227 should feel as 241-242 imo
Im not good @ lj atm but ima try m4 and post a demo
edit :
did 230-232 5< mins and i suck so 235+ is possible fo sho
ill try more after school , here are 232 :/ http://www.sendspace.com/file/vx7knk
[ Edited Tue Jan 09 2007, 11:51AM ]
Very nice Scooter!
Within the last few days my strafes have kicked themselves into high gear and i just jumped from being able to do consistant 230's and doing 240's in 1/20 tries and 241 being my record on friday to doing consistant 238's, and getting 244 officaly and 246 unofficaly, i can nail the assault truck to box jump every time, and the roof to fence jump 5/10.
Im still having trouble understanding my sudden leap, but i went back to a bunch of jumps i coulden't do before that i can do now. like the spade blocks in marioland that faker did, or the big shortcut on cliffez, or all the shortcuts on mountez.
it's really weird ..
Im currently working on 225 with a Para (it's an easy jump on a cs_ map that im trying to give an edge)
[ Edited Tue Jan 09 2007, 12:31PM ]
HaHa Arokh tahts what i call fast motion :P
U seem to learn very fast
Try to make 240 Para :D
btw GJ scooter
[ Edited Tue Jan 09 2007, 01:46PM ]
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