wils' 270 CountJump
Started by chip
18/06/2013 20:58
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Countyzz02/11/2013 13:21
well it was amazing thread at first ... now it's useless
M4kind02/11/2013 13:34
Originally posted by zythH^musaka, with all my respect, I will end like people who defended LyNn? Let me clear your mind about "LyNn" :)
First, I ALWAYS said LyNn was a cheater no mather what, ALWAYS! Secondly, both me and FLP were like a 2 man army against this community saying always the same thing "LyNn cheats" and what did we get? "Oh u guys are jealous, if eDark doesn't bust him it means he is clear raw raw raw"! Third... Dude! I did a movie for his longjump, I slowed the demo EXACTLY on the points where the hack was working so I showed people how much he cheated, I got flamed for some friends for editing it for XJ and why I did that but it had a porpuse, to bust that guy because my eyes couldn't saw his cheats CLEARLY!
And last but not least, like EVERYONE said to me and FLP, "If eDark doesn't bust him he is clear" I will be like the rest :) I am tired of fighting for something what is right and don't get any support (ofc some agree but comparing with about 450 guys, 3 or 4 are nothing) so fuck it and waaaaaaaapau, that's it, if he cheats or not well I don't care, I used to know wils as a sick countjumper, when someone like eDark tells me he cheats I will just remove that part of sick countjumper from my head :D
I wish I was clear up there and I didn't try to offend any of this guys who already commented this. Cheers
I was saying that LyNn was cheating all the time, actualy I've tryed to "bust" him, I actualy found something fishy in his demo, that could have been a prefix for strafes *or some shit).
kayne
02/11/2013 18:31
02/11/2013 18:31Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynedidnt notice i was in there too, can you explain more about what this shit actually does? since that shows wrong on my demo too i dont trust it anylonger, because i'm 100% there's nothing wrong with mine :^)
Of course you'll say that you were not used cheats in your demo(s), i'm not even surprised.
About wils i was right (at least you've confirmed it) and you think i lied about you? I don't have any reason to do so.
yeah mate of course i'm denying it, i dont know of any cheats in these demos, that's why i asked you to explain more so that i understand what your whatever the fuck you have actually shows and how legit your stuff is, from what i know you're just a stupid longjumper and you're coming here with a demo showing, to be honest, i dont even know what it shows.
and for wils, how did i confirm it? i dont even have him on steam, i havent had him on steam for a really long time and the only times i've talked to him was through teamspeak when hes coming in drunk or whatever.
sure you have no reason to lie, but atleast explain whats wrong instead of just saying i'm cheating, thats just plain stupid.
xERAU;*02/11/2013 19:34(edited 02/11/2013 19:36)
Originally posted by kayneOriginally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynedidnt notice i was in there too, can you explain more about what this shit actually does? since that shows wrong on my demo too i dont trust it anylonger, because i'm 100% there's nothing wrong with mine :^)
Of course you'll say that you were not used cheats in your demo(s), i'm not even surprised.
About wils i was right (at least you've confirmed it) and you think i lied about you? I don't have any reason to do so.
yeah mate of course i'm denying it, i dont know of any cheats in these demos, that's why i asked you to explain more so that i understand what your whatever the fuck you have actually shows and how legit your stuff is, from what i know you're just a stupid longjumper and you're coming here with a demo showing, to be honest, i dont even know what it shows.
and for wils, how did i confirm it? i dont even have him on steam, i havent had him on steam for a really long time and the only times i've talked to him was through teamspeak when hes coming in drunk or whatever.
sure you have no reason to lie, but atleast explain whats wrong instead of just saying i'm cheating, thats just plain stupid.
This thread isn't about you kayne, it is about wils, and I believe the proofs that fame posted were pretty clear to understand.
And again, if you do a wr run its ok if you dont upload it, there are thousands of maps out there, but in this case, this is a countjump world record, and he has been posting many fails he had on 270 block, so it seems he indeed liked to show off his skills.
badgamer 
02/11/2013 19:45
02/11/2013 19:45Originally posted by kayneOriginally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynedidnt notice i was in there too, can you explain more about what this shit actually does? since that shows wrong on my demo too i dont trust it anylonger, because i'm 100% there's nothing wrong with mine :^)
Of course you'll say that you were not used cheats in your demo(s), i'm not even surprised.
About wils i was right (at least you've confirmed it) and you think i lied about you? I don't have any reason to do so.
yeah mate of course i'm denying it, i dont know of any cheats in these demos, that's why i asked you to explain more so that i understand what your whatever the fuck you have actually shows and how legit your stuff is, from what i know you're just a stupid longjumper and you're coming here with a demo showing, to be honest, i dont even know what it shows.
and for wils, how did i confirm it? i dont even have him on steam, i havent had him on steam for a really long time and the only times i've talked to him was through teamspeak when hes coming in drunk or whatever.
sure you have no reason to lie, but atleast explain whats wrong instead of just saying i'm cheating, thats just plain stupid.
We all know that you are 100% clear Kayne :), the fact that he didn't upload his 270 cj block doesn't mean that he cheats but just means that it's suspicious, nothing more..
M4kind02/11/2013 19:55
Originally posted by BeginnerOriginally posted by kayneOriginally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynedidnt notice i was in there too, can you explain more about what this shit actually does? since that shows wrong on my demo too i dont trust it anylonger, because i'm 100% there's nothing wrong with mine :^)
Of course you'll say that you were not used cheats in your demo(s), i'm not even surprised.
About wils i was right (at least you've confirmed it) and you think i lied about you? I don't have any reason to do so.
yeah mate of course i'm denying it, i dont know of any cheats in these demos, that's why i asked you to explain more so that i understand what your whatever the fuck you have actually shows and how legit your stuff is, from what i know you're just a stupid longjumper and you're coming here with a demo showing, to be honest, i dont even know what it shows.
and for wils, how did i confirm it? i dont even have him on steam, i havent had him on steam for a really long time and the only times i've talked to him was through teamspeak when hes coming in drunk or whatever.
sure you have no reason to lie, but atleast explain whats wrong instead of just saying i'm cheating, thats just plain stupid.
We all know that you are 100% clear Kayne :), the fact that he didn't upload his 270 cj block doesn't mean that he cheats but just means that it's suspicious, nothing more..
Agreed.
kayne02/11/2013 20:08
02/11/2013 20:08Originally posted by xERAU;*Originally posted by kayneOriginally posted by fameOriginally posted by kaynedidnt notice i was in there too, can you explain more about what this shit actually does? since that shows wrong on my demo too i dont trust it anylonger, because i'm 100% there's nothing wrong with mine :^)
Of course you'll say that you were not used cheats in your demo(s), i'm not even surprised.
About wils i was right (at least you've confirmed it) and you think i lied about you? I don't have any reason to do so.
yeah mate of course i'm denying it, i dont know of any cheats in these demos, that's why i asked you to explain more so that i understand what your whatever the fuck you have actually shows and how legit your stuff is, from what i know you're just a stupid longjumper and you're coming here with a demo showing, to be honest, i dont even know what it shows.
and for wils, how did i confirm it? i dont even have him on steam, i havent had him on steam for a really long time and the only times i've talked to him was through teamspeak when hes coming in drunk or whatever.
sure you have no reason to lie, but atleast explain whats wrong instead of just saying i'm cheating, thats just plain stupid.
This thread isn't about you kayne, it is about wils, and I believe the proofs that fame posted were pretty clear to understand.
I know it's not about me, but when he's posting a demo and somehow "replays" my demo in his demo (wtf?) together with 2 of wils' demos that shows the same thing i have to ask what this crap is about.
yeah, it's pretty easy to understand but again, hes just "FAME", how trustworthy is that shit he posted? he's not edark
ShoCk 02/11/2013 20:52
02/11/2013 20:52Originally posted by zythH^maybe we are not all the same, maybe we are not like you, fame seekers! Even myself got 2 wr's when I was really active and I did NEVER sent any demo, so did Bink and many others I know, we play KZ for fun, we beat maps for fun, what's the point of being famous because of one WR? It's just a fact, I believe on him, if you don't, I won't judge you, give me real facts like XJ did with LyNn and then I will agree with fame
Basically you are saying that if you submit a demo then you are not playing for fun and if you don't submit a record then you are playing for fun? Why would you then even record your attempts? Why would you then even show demos to one and not to another? I do enjoy recording and I do like to see my demo being released and I do like the fact that some people enjoy watching my demos.
staNioN`02/11/2013 21:09
when someone submit his WR demos doesnt mean he's fame seeking... WTF?
especially in wils case,because he had some 271.x stats's before and he's capable of doing it,he just had to get a lucky edge and thats it.
zythH^ 
02/11/2013 21:15(edited 02/11/2013 21:16)
02/11/2013 21:15(edited 02/11/2013 21:16)Originally posted by ShoCkOriginally posted by zythH^maybe we are not all the same, maybe we are not like you, fame seekers! Even myself got 2 wr's when I was really active and I did NEVER sent any demo, so did Bink and many others I know, we play KZ for fun, we beat maps for fun, what's the point of being famous because of one WR? It's just a fact, I believe on him, if you don't, I won't judge you, give me real facts like XJ did with LyNn and then I will agree with fame
Basically you are saying that if you submit a demo then you are not playing for fun and if you don't submit a record then you are playing for fun? Why would you then even record your attempts? Why would you then even show demos to one and not to another? I do enjoy recording and I do like to see my demo being released and I do like the fact that some people enjoy watching my demos.
Did I say sending demos wasn't fun? You always misunderstand my comments ShoCk..
I will be more objective now! So if you play your favourite map, somehow you did a great time, then you watch the official KZ website and you notice you did a better time than the record holder, you will be happy, after that, it is your call to send it or not..
Is it a crime to not send demos? If it is a crime I will submit my kz_world demo that I've on my extern HDD lol... (Might not be WR anymore due to new WR, a demo what I only showed to 3 guys in my life and I am one of those 3 and the rest don't even play KZ)
Anyway ShoCk, my point was, not everyone want to show their skills, to show how good they are, that isn't bad, that's just the question about personality and self pleasure.. I am just saying that you play kreedz for fun, not the be known, at least, I don't, as you said, you enjoy to have ur demos posted there and I totally respect it, even I like to watch ur demos, the point here is, I never said it wasn't fun to beat the previous record holder, I said, you can't judge people just because they beat a map and keep it secret, they beat a jump and keep it in the darkness...
I will resume this!
Not everyone like to send demos, everyone plays for fun and I never said the opposite, not everyone want to be known and show their skills!
Hope I was clear now ShoCk, if not, steam..
propane
02/11/2013 22:09
02/11/2013 22:09I think this mutated thread should win some sort of award for being fucking stupid.
It went from wils and cjs to psychology
Michael Collins02/11/2013 22:15
Originally posted by ShoCkOriginally posted by zythH^maybe we are not all the same, maybe we are not like you, fame seekers! Even myself got 2 wr's when I was really active and I did NEVER sent any demo, so did Bink and many others I know, we play KZ for fun, we beat maps for fun, what's the point of being famous because of one WR? It's just a fact, I believe on him, if you don't, I won't judge you, give me real facts like XJ did with LyNn and then I will agree with fame
Basically you are saying that if you submit a demo then you are not playing for fun and if you don't submit a record then you are playing for fun? Why would you then even record your attempts? Why would you then even show demos to one and not to another? I do enjoy recording and I do like to see my demo being released and I do like the fact that some people enjoy watching my demos.
You cannot expect from people to enjoy in same stuff you do, your satisfaction is when you see your demo being released and someones is yet something different...
ShoCk 02/11/2013 23:14
02/11/2013 23:14Becoming famous is just something you earn on top of pleasure of the game and it's not always recorder's number one target, but even if it is, you deserved it. Anyway, I don't see how you wouldn't submit the demo, at least I can't find one negative feature to justify that decision. I believe that world records is something people should have access to. World records should be in public usage.
Truly sorry to sound negative but I can't respect "I don't submit my demos because I don't want to become famous" point.
zythH^ 02/11/2013 23:22
02/11/2013 23:22Originally posted by ShoCkBecoming famous is just something you earn on top of pleasure of the game and it's not always recorder's number one target, but even if it is, you deserved it. Anyway, I don't see how you wouldn't submit the demo, at least I can't find one negative feature to justify that decision. I believe that world records is something people should have access to. World records should be in public usage.
Truly sorry to sound negative but I can't respect "I don't submit my demos because I don't want to become famous" point.
Different opinions, that's all, I don't want to send the demo because kz_world is from FAR my favourite map, I used to beat it lots of times, I used to perfome tricks that are unseen, 30% of my kz training was on kz_world and it was easy to me to get it after like months "living" there, it's just, I was there because I loved to be there having fun with friends in LAN playing kz_world and when I beat it, I did feel happy but well, I guess the "submit" button is just a button to fame, I want to keep like the trickjumper and moviemaker who just plays some kz in lan :) And it is only a WR if it is public, take that in mind, if it is still hidden in my / or other guy kept it in the HDD, it is not WR, at least, the official one. Once again ShoCk, I enjoy to argue with you, it's always fun since we both have good visions about one thing and it's quite fun to see how far can we go with such healthy discussion! Cya later, if you reply!
ShoCk 03/11/2013 00:19
03/11/2013 00:19Haha it's not that I'm trying to get into arguing with you :) It's just something I can't understand, just can't! I don't however think we're getting any further with this but rephrasing what was already said. So yes different opinions I guess like you said.
KyU.K03/11/2013 03:32
zyth, could you inbox me your 2 previous wrs? would be fun watching, thanks!
FAME03/11/2013 17:49(edited 03/11/2013 19:11)
Originally posted by kayneI know it's not about me, but when he's posting a demo and somehow "replays" my demo in his demo (wtf?) together with 2 of wils' demos that shows the same thing i have to ask what this crap is about.
yeah, it's pretty easy to understand but again, hes just "FAME", how trustworthy is that shit he posted? he's not edark
You keep denying the fact that your demos (271 dcj, 272 wj etc) is cheated because you know that we will never get an official confirmation from eDark or from someone else because they don't care about your cheated demos since it's not submitted to xj.
(kayne had already used cheats for recording demos in past with different kind of hacks link)
About the my demo: if you're too stupid to understand, i replayed your demo movements (by some private tool) and it shows quite different result between your demo and replayed identical movements.
Anyone of you can check wils' or kayne's demos with the almost same way: just record movements from demo with MMR and replay it in-game and you will see difference as well.
Anyway thread is not about you and i don't want to continue this discussion because you won't stop lying about how your demos legit is.
About wils: i agree that wils is probably good countjumper and don't deny this fact that his 270 cj is possibly legal, but his 269, 256, 271 blocks are totally cheated.
kayne03/11/2013 18:08
03/11/2013 18:08Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by kayneI know it's not about me, but when he's posting a demo and somehow "replays" my demo in his demo (wtf?) together with 2 of wils' demos that shows the same thing i have to ask what this crap is about.
yeah, it's pretty easy to understand but again, hes just "FAME", how trustworthy is that shit he posted? he's not edark
You keep denying the fact that your demos (271 dcj, 272 wj etc) is cheated because you know that we will never get an official confirmation from eDark or from someone else because they don't care about your cheated demos since it's not submitted to xj.
(kayne had already used cheats for recording demos in past with different kind of hacks link)
About the my demo: if you're too stupid to understand, i replayed your demo movements (by some private tool) and it shows quite different result between your demo and replayed identical movements.
Anyone of you can check wils' or kayne's demos with the almost same way: just record movements from demo with MMR and replay it in-game and you will see difference as well.
Anyway thread is not about you and i don't want to continue this discussion because you won't stop lying about how your demos legit is.
About wils: i agree that wils is probably good countjumper and don't deny this fact than his 270 cj is possibly legal, but his 269, 256, 271 blocks are totally cheated.
can u be abit more pathethic pls
leggie03/11/2013 18:41
Originally posted by fameOriginally posted by kayneI know it's not about me, but when he's posting a demo and somehow "replays" my demo in his demo (wtf?) together with 2 of wils' demos that shows the same thing i have to ask what this crap is about.
yeah, it's pretty easy to understand but again, hes just "FAME", how trustworthy is that shit he posted? he's not edark
You keep denying the fact that your demos (271 dcj, 272 wj etc) is cheated because you know that we will never get an official confirmation from eDark or from someone else because they don't care about your cheated demos since it's not submitted to xj.
(kayne had already used cheats for recording demos in past with different kind of hacks link)
About the my demo: if you're too stupid to understand, i replayed your demo movements (by some private tool) and it shows quite different result between your demo and replayed identical movements.
Anyone of you can check wils' or kayne's demos with the almost same way: just record movements from demo with MMR and replay it in-game and you will see difference as well.
Anyway thread is not about you and i don't want to continue this discussion because you won't stop lying about how your demos legit is.
About wils: i agree that wils is probably good countjumper and don't deny this fact than his 270 cj is possibly legal, but his 269, 256, 271 blocks are totally cheated.
:gj:
Michael Collins03/11/2013 19:59
Originally posted by ShoCkBecoming famous is just something you earn on top of pleasure of the game and it's not always recorder's number one target, but even if it is, you deserved it. Anyway, I don't see how you wouldn't submit the demo, at least I can't find one negative feature to justify that decision. I believe that world records is something people should have access to. World records should be in public usage.
Truly sorry to sound negative but I can't respect "I don't submit my demos because I don't want to become famous" point.
That make us being so different in many aspects...
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