[WTJC] Weekly TrickJump Competition/Challange

Started by SzczupaK
05/08/2014 02:39
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SzczupaK05/08/2014 02:39(edited 05/08/2014 09:16)

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After further thinking.. I understood that radon's concept will be the best.
Bassicaly, because the only thing that limits you it's your creativity.
No one will tell you what you have to do, just show us all what you got.

So here is mine & radon's concept sticked together.


I HOPE U WILL LIKE IT


Introduction to Weekly TrickJump Competition:

So bassicaly, we all love to jump, we all love to watch trickjumps movies.
Why dont make then a Weekly Competition that will revive trickjumping in all of us!
Some of you can know this from national hns/kz communities.
The trickjumps may be old, could be new.
It's just have to be one of those:
- Never seen before
- Very very hard
- Fun and creative


How it will work:

- If u want to participate, start by finding your own trick jump and record it on a demo.
- Upload your demos via Submit Demo (World Records Menu Bar) and dont forget to change 1.6 World Record to Weekly Competition.
- When the time to submit is over, the XJ crew will decide wich 5 demos are the best ones.

The whole thing will be based on point system.
For each thing you can get only 1 point.



You can get points for:

- Creativity
- New/Old jump
- Hard/Easy
- Sexy Strafes


Extra Points:

- Heavier weapons
- Bhops
- BackWards/SideWays
- Surf
- LongJumps


Rules:

- The demo can't be longer than 2 mins (if u can do a 1st try demo we will appreciate it)
- You can only send in 1 demo!
- name the file "nick_map.rar" (example: radon_de_nuke.rar)
- ONLY kz_, de_ and cs_ maps! (no custom maps)
- Demos have to be done on the LAN Server!
- At the end of the demo you must type a phrase. ( i.e. XJWTJC-CHIKITA :D )
(* It's just to make sure that demo is recorded after the start of WTJC
Use bind so the time of the demo will be shorther *)


Top10 of TrickJumpers:

- To enter TOP10 of TrickJumpers. Your demo must be one of 3 best demos that will be awarded with points.
+ 1st place : 3 points
2nd place : 2 points
3rd place : 1 point
- After 3 months TOP3 TrickJumpers will be rewarded.

The Prizes:

- Weekly: The TOP5 demos will be rewarded with an edit and posted on XJ News page.
- TOP10: The TOP3 TrickJumpers will be rewarded with TrickJumper Icon for 3 months.
+ 1st place : Gold TrickJumper Icon + 15 Days VIP
2nd place : Silver TrickJumper Icon + 10 Days VIP
3rd place : Bronze TrickJumper Icon + 5 Days VIP


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~ Let's all work together for a better KZ community
~ Ovidiu Dumitru - CEO

propanelj record holder05/08/2014 03:14(edited 05/08/2014 03:17)

Forward +0
SideWays/ BackWards +1

no difference to do shit bw/sw, just as easy.

+TRICKS

360 before landing +1

^makes stuff ugly as fuck

No Duck +1

^no reason for having tbh since if its easy enough to do noduck why not use a heavier weapon

10+ [?] Ducks +1

^100ducks same as 3ducks

AfterJumps +5 [?]

^wudt

The idea itself is good, to have trickjump challenges but it should be decided by the best trick and not what special stuff is put into it (360 noscopes etc)

Something like this pls http://xtreme-jumps.eu/news.php?extend.490

Nikita05/08/2014 03:25

^
Beauty over difficulty imo. What would you prefer? awp_rooftops T spawn to red roof with m4a1 + 30 ducks or a beautiful bhop combo by Lolz?

IMO it doesn't make any sense to give more points for weapons that will totally ruin the trickjump or to give more points for different techniques like afterjump, dcj or whatever because in the end, what looks best is the best in trickjumping :)

SzczupaK05/08/2014 03:43(edited 05/08/2014 03:47)

It's about making it as simple as possible. Where only a demochecker is involved so everything goes smooth and can be done until next competition. As its weekly idea to make things more fun there is no time to comparing which TrickJump is better than other by other people. It takes much longer and also lots of demos would be send (I guess). So demochecker would have to check every single demo and then people who will judge them will have to watch everyone of them. In my suggestion u got points system that shows "Best demos" in the name and there will be not that many demos to check so its simplier and quicker. People have different points of view, some would like this demo other different one. More people would like one demo but other one would be chosen by "judges". Your idea is good but left those trickjumps for movies if there r unique. There is no way u can challange. With Point System its simple, quick and can be interesting because every one has a different style. No judges needed. No need of checking every demo. You just take demos that get most points, check them, pass them to moviemaker. Everyone have a chance of win so i think people would be interested in it. You dont have to be creative because everything is simple. Jump from here to here and add some other stuff to get the points. I think that there is no better way for trickjump challange, because if u invent an trickjump its unique u save it for your movie or something. Every TJ at beginning was unique and sign with an inventor name later people were just challenging this trickjump who does it with heavier weapon or make some combo. So it all goes to the same point. Its just about fun, geeking an TJ to the max-pushing it to the limit than going around and looking for new one. There is only one jump that every have to do but with different style to gain more points.

Nikita05/08/2014 04:24

All the things propane and I posted can still be applied to your theory. So I don't really see the problem?

SzczupaK05/08/2014 05:02(edited 05/08/2014 06:01)

Time is the problem. The topic that propane posted is rly nice. I like it :) however it sounded more like democall for good trickjump movie in my opinion than a challange really. Not everybody is dat creative like you Nikita. Overall, u and other trickjumpers would be ahead in a competition that u guys talking about coz u trickjump everyday. Its what u like. Other may just likes longjumping or climbing and doesnt give a damn about trickjumps and looking for them. In addition not many people would send demo. My idea was acctualy to show different styles of one jump/players and to encourage them do record such a thing because if u know what to do its fun, u just join new game choose map and u geek a jump to get most points.

These days in competition that u guys r saying if it would be even weekly I bet u would be in every release. Coz this is what u do. Personally i associated u with trickjumping than climbing u r far ahead upon newcommers with style and "beauty" coz u know the shit u r doing. In my suggestion u dont need that. Everyone who can strafe can join it. As I said it a fun weekly challange which will encourage a newcommers to TrickJump. No rly much of time from administration is needed every things goes quick and smooth and without discussing about different points of view. The judge is a number of points u got.

Main Idea of this competition is fun, encourage newcomers to trickjumpers and also pushing some stuff to the limit and some enterteiment for those who would not take part in the competition. No words just watch!




ahh and Nikita i would prefer bhop combo by lolz with awp sideways. Such skill, such beauty, no women no cry.

kyser05/08/2014 06:02

we did smth similar in kzarg looong time ago... but there were different difficulties in the same map... check it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kksNgvZ8FGg

eightbO VIP05/08/2014 06:10

pls no 360s in your demos guys this isn't a cod trickshot
agree with propane, heavier weapons is better than a noduck

SzczupaK05/08/2014 06:28

These are suggestion only. It can evolve in some fun thing and be simple.

NEW IDEA:
TOP15 for the winners who get most points.
Edit of demo that is different than the others.Entertaining, making show.

So winners may appear in the movie but dont have to. For example, when two guys get maximum points and do the same thing there is no point of editing same two jumps. Competition should show different styles. So also the one who lost can get their consolation prize.

Nikita05/08/2014 06:49

Then I will say this is a bad idea, because it's been done so many times before, there's no need to make the same thing over except adding a competition to it.

SzczupaK05/08/2014 07:30(edited 05/08/2014 09:16)

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After further thinking.. I understood that radon's concept will be the best.
Bassicaly, because the only thing that limits you it's your creativity.
No one will tell you what you have to do, just show us all what you got.

So here is mine & radon's concept sticked together.


I HOPE U WILL LIKE IT


Introduction to Weekly TrickJump Competition:

So bassicaly, we all love to jump, we all love to watch trickjumps movies.
Why dont make then a Weekly Competition that will revive trickjumping in all of us!
Some of you can know this from national hns/kz communities.
The trickjumps may be old, could be new.
It's just have to be one of those:
- Never seen before
- Very very hard
- Fun and creative


How it will work:

- If u want to participate, start by finding your own trick jump and record it on a demo.
- Upload your demos via Submit Demo (World Records Menu Bar) and dont forget to change 1.6 World Record to Weekly Competition.
- When the time to submit is over, the XJ crew will decide wich 5 demos are the best ones.

The whole thing will be based on point system.
For each thing you can get only 1 point.



You can get points for:

- Creativity
- New/Old jump
- Hard/Easy
- Sexy Strafes


Extra Points:

- Heavier weapons
- Bhops
- BackWards/SideWays
- Surf
- LongJumps


Rules:

- The demo can't be longer than 2 mins (if u can do a 1st try demo we will appreciate it)
- You can only send in 1 demo!
- name the file "nick_map.rar" (example: radon_de_nuke.rar)
- ONLY kz_, de_ and cs_ maps! (no custom maps)
- Demos have to be done on the LAN Server!
- At the end of the demo you must type a phrase. ( i.e. XJWTJC-CHIKITA :D )
(* It's just to make sure that demo is recorded after the start of WTJC
Use bind so the time of the demo will be shorther *)


Top10 of TrickJumpers:

- To enter TOP10 of TrickJumpers. Your demo must be one of 3 best demos that will be awarded with points.
+ 1st place : 3 points
2nd place : 2 points
3rd place : 1 point
- After 3 months TOP3 TrickJumpers will be rewarded.

The Prizes:

- Weekly: The TOP5 demos will be rewarded with an edit and posted on XJ News page.
- TOP10: The TOP3 TrickJumpers will be rewarded with TrickJumper Icon for 3 months.
+ 1st place : Gold TrickJumper Icon + 15 Days VIP
2nd place : Silver TrickJumper Icon + 10 Days VIP
3rd place : Bronze TrickJumper Icon + 5 Days VIP


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~ Let's all work together for a better KZ community
~ Ovidiu Dumitru - CEO

There was a smiliair to this idea that Jonde was hosting on forums. Anyway, I didn't read it all, just glanced for a second and I say this sounds boring and complicated, sorry.

Read your update, still complicated, whatever you're coming up with. Trickjumping is not about competition whatsoever, it's just something you do when you feel like, when you want to take break from other game activities. I look up to your attempts at bringing on active scene but trickjumping for points/competition.. I don't understand this.

SzczupaK05/08/2014 09:40(edited 05/08/2014 09:51)

What's so boring about it? That there will be a short kz movie and a nice mini event every week. Coz I dont get you. Nothing new for three days on the page, its truly more interesting than a clip with some music.

Its complicated?

Short Guide:

1. Find a TrickJump
2. Upload a Demo
3. Wait for Movie

Technical Stuff:

- Most of the TrickJumps are around 5-15 sec.
- Even if there willl be 40 demos it still doesnt take a long time to check them all for a demochecker. Maybe hour and a half.
- Demos has to be send to 5 days from starting the competition. So there are 2 days to check the demos and make a movie out of them. It's 7 days so when the movie would come out, another WTJC would be starting in the same post.

@@ Simplier. When you upload your demo it will judged by XJ. Your TrickJumps will be judged in those categories.

You can get points for:

    - Creativity
    - New/Old jump
    - Hard/Easy
    - Sexy Strafes

    - Heavier weapons
    - Bhops
    - BackWards/SideWays
    - Surf
    - LongJumps



You get one point for each thing listed above.

So for example if your demo contains surf + bhop + heavier weapons u got 3 points.

If its creative + new + hard and u got sick strafes you will get another 3 points.

It gives you 6 points in equal this is how your demo would be judged but also overall look will be judged as well.

Clearified?

It's still just a suggestion.
I'm not sure if these should be judged.

    - Heavier weapons
    - Bhops
    - BackWards/SideWays
    - Surf
    - LongJumps


Let me know.

Boring man as fk.. But really thanks for clarifying, I couldn't grasp it at first that all the submitted demos make it to one collective movie. It's indeed nice to have something to watch every week and even to take part in, the downside to it I can think of is there's gonna be gaps in quality of demos.

SzczupaK05/08/2014 10:27

What gasps? The demos will uploaded by user anybody can upload it. So even if the quality will be low people will have fun maybe some of newcommers after showing up in these will like the trickjumping and one day they will hold the scene ;p It's unbelivable that the community is held by pros only. It is official, but cmon give the chance to newcommers.

You pretty much answered your question but I never said I wasn't up for giving a chance to low breed players, just pointed out at "fact". But because of that, there may however be top jumpers who will refuse to participate and instead will save up demos for a more "serious" project. But it's nuances and I guess prizes is extra incentive to keep them close.

g-Lprecord holder Tournament #105/08/2014 11:36

The kzarg things looked nice for me. I think you should give like 2 or 3 different trickjump on a map, and player do one of them. That would make the system of point more equitable because if everyone choose his own trick how will you know which one is the best? And if most of the people have the same trick you could really see the difference between the difficulties (weapons, noduck etc) and the "quality" (I mean, the sexy strafes, etc).

SzczupaK05/08/2014 11:56

no limits bro

jack frog05/08/2014 13:35(edited 05/08/2014 13:36)

@propane/Niktia: Someone comes up with an idea – let's kill it with fire! Riight?

Too bad there are so many negative feedbacks to your idea, SzczupaK. I'd love to see jumps with that concept of multiducks and other fun tricks. That Nuke video was very cool.

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