Where do you want to perform a trick jump?

Before get to the topic, I would like to briefly talk about why I create this thread. Right now, I have a little simple idea in my mind about mapping, and the idea's purpose is to try to provide a new environment of trickjumping and revive moviemaking scene (can't really say revive, but it might give something new and fresh at least). However, I don't actually know what people think about TJ and maps, so I think it would be better to understand people's thoughts, and then move on to the idea. Btw, since I am not a mapper, this idea will leave to someone or group that is interested in and works on it.



So, let's have some fun!

1. What do you think of the reasons why people want to perform trick jump?

2. What do you think TJ on all/certain maps?(default, hns, kz, random de/cs)

3. TJ has been related to moviemaking for a long time. When you see a new trick jump movie, what kinds of maps would you expect in the movie generally?

4. Some moviemakers only allowed jumpers to record on certain kinds of maps. Why do you think it happens? Do you think some maps have advantage over other maps in trickjumping or moviemaking?

5. What do you think moviemaking scene needs to become active?

6. Which kinds of maps you prefer for trickjumping?(default, hns, kz, random de/cs)

7. If you are given with a random map, which would motivate you most to record a trick jump on the map in term of level design, visual graphics, shortcuts, popularity of map, and others (please place them in order. For example, level design > visual graphics > shortcuts and so on).

8. XJ planned to become a platform of multiple games and game types. What kinds of maps you want to see in the future map release for CS 1.6 on XJ?(any kinds of maps, include surf, slide, hns, etc.)



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1. The 1st reason in my opinion jumpers want to preform a jump , because they want improve their skills and maybe get to be known or just improve their records.

2. TJ's on certain maps are much harder to find (cs_de, default maps) because there is so little space for creativity there, almost everything is already done by other TJ'ers.
And on Hns and other 100aa maps, most guys don't find it interesting, I don't know why, but I personaly don't like the visuals of 100aa map, it feels a bit cheap.

4. It happens most of the time because of a moviemaker which wants to do a certain theme of the clip/movie or the map the TJ'er has chosen is too dark to edit something like that. I definatly agree that some maps do have advantage over others in TJ'ing and moviemaking because as I said before, in some maps it's really hard to find a TJ.

5. TJ'ers, nowadays moviemakers have trouble with the demos, because most of the good jumpers are not playing anymore, and some older moviemakers don't trust newcomers and therefore no clips or movies are beeing made. Moviemakers should accept newcomers because people come and people go, that's how the world goes.

6. Definatly good old default maps for sure!

7. Visuals and design are my top priorities. So Visuals>Design>Popularity of the map

8.In my opinion merging different communities in one place is great, but therefore XJ atm is not that active, and I really have deep doubts about XJ making it all happen. As I've said before, I don't think that it will make to XJ anytime soon, unless there will be more people that are active enough to keep other mods (100aa/slide/surf) awake and not dead.

1. Express creativity or skill, whatever floats their boat

2. Finding jumps on the standard maps is getting harder and harder, however, the jumps that are found are usually quite creative or impressive. TJs on kz_ maps are often random, i only enjoy tjs on those maps if they are combos, ledges, eb or jb

3. Doesnt matter, just that fits the theme of the movie. For example heavy dubstep wobwob doesnt mix with for example lolz bhop combos

4. Because of some reasons.
- kz_ maps might be excluded from demo calls because the mvm has bad exeriences from seeing the more random jump from random block A to random block B that was so popular back in 2008-2009(i think lel)
- hns maps, this is obvious, these maps for the viewer instantly make them think TJ + awp_rooftops = 100aa.
-random de_/cs_ maps might be removed cuz nobody know of them making it hard to judge a tj.

5. Moviemakers.

6. default maps, thinking out new creative jumps on maps that have been searched for tjs the past like 400years is always fun to watch.

7. Visuals visuals then some visuals.

8. Anything related to the movement of cs

1 - 8, fuck you

1 - because you swagscope the map then 420blazeitfgt
2 - default
3 - default
4 - Cuz i said so :D
5 - a new engine/the game totally remade(graphically) but same physics.
6 - default
7 - The way the strafes look>Hardness>fuqderest
8 - None just ditch the game already

1. for improving
2. well ofc default but you have to search so hard to find good tj;s on de, cs, as because theres is so manny videos with tjs and you can't watch them all to see that your combo is 1st one :D so plan B - kz_ maps for creative mine... and in the end hns_ maps but tjs here have to be so creative or HARD - this is my opinion :)
3. who knows - de, cs, as, kz... all of them maybe if its good as i say
4. I think moviemakers want tjs on de, cs, as - default maps, and kz_
5. We know that kz dying because of the cheaters and thats why so many good players left our scene..... i think if moviemakers want to start something like multiplayer movie they should share here to search demos and then create something cool..
6. I prefer de_, cs_, as_ (default maps) and ofc some good kz maps for creative combos
7. Design, shortcuts
8. all of them.

Im rly sorry for my english.

Originally posted by IceVip

Originally posted by PiilsnEr

Originally posted by IceVip

1 - because you swagscope the map then 420blazeitfgt
2 - default
3 - default
4 - Cuz i said so :D
5 - a new engine/the game totally remade(graphically) but same physics.
6 - default
7 - The way the strafes look>Hardness>fuqderest
8 - None just ditch the game already

who r u to come in being a dick icevip fucking twat neb

I iz da xXxPusiSlayer420blzitfgtXxX. Dota changes people ;)
p.s all that i said was honest, and you were a "d*ck" twice so yeah..
its good to know that this community hasn't changed for the greater good.

Originally posted by IceVip

I will not blame you for being ignorant, because i did leave just like that without giving anyone a clue due to what reason i did it, but i will tell you this, dota is a really crappy game with a really crappy(russian)community and i never started playing it by my own will, when every friend you have outside the network is playing it obviously you gotta join, if xj had my people still up and running in it i would have never left this place, it is by far the best game i've ever experienced and probably always will be. So there you go, now u're informed :p, but yeah you keep that all tough image you have going on there, one day u'll see u push too much people away and u will change.