*SOLVED* [Bans from KZ-Endo and cs-burgas]

08/11/2015 20:08
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kalinskY12/11/2015 16:52(edited 12/11/2015 16:52)

I truly believe that no one can tell much about cheating in 1.6 kz... So many players got banned forever (LoLz VNS LyNN ...) without any proper explanation how they cheated and what kind of advantage they got from doing it. To be honest i never believed Lynn was a cheater,probably his poor english and some other silly circumstances got him banned.
XJ should really make a detailed statement what is forbidden how does it works and so on. And yes,the admins usually know everything and for them is kinda humiliating to answer simple questions to the mortal users :D Good luck with finding the truth

slay3r Tournament #112/11/2015 16:56

Originally posted by kalinskY
I truly believe that no one can tell much about cheating in 1.6 kz... So many players got banned forever (LoLz VNS LyNN ...) without any proper explanation how they cheated and what kind of advantage they got from doing it. To be honest i never believed Lynn was a cheater,probably his poor english and some other silly circumstances got him banned.
XJ should really make a detailed statement what is forbidden how does it works and so on. And yes,the admins usually know everything and for them is kinda humiliating to answer simple questions to the mortal users :D Good luck with finding the truth


If you think lynn was legit, you're not very bright then

kalinskY12/11/2015 16:59

It's just my opinion mr bright n shiny,cut the flames off

slay3r Tournament #112/11/2015 17:11

Originally posted by kalinskY
It's just my opinion mr bright n shiny,cut the flames off


whatever mr braindead

zmlandas13/11/2015 16:08(edited 13/11/2015 20:32)

Originally posted by fame_is_mad
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Actually fpsdeath was leaked a long time ago and you do understand that eDark isn't the only guy in the whole world who can program AC software right ?

WOOFix13/11/2015 16:13

Replying to a banned person : fail.

niken13/11/2015 23:27(edited 13/11/2015 23:29)

Originally posted by kalinskY
I truly believe that no one can tell much about cheating in 1.6 kz... So many players got banned forever (LoLz VNS LyNN ...) without any proper explanation how they cheated and what kind of advantage they got from doing it. To be honest i never believed Lynn was a cheater,probably his poor english and some other silly circumstances got him banned.
XJ should really make a detailed statement what is forbidden how does it works and so on. And yes,the admins usually know everything and for them is kinda humiliating to answer simple questions to the mortal users :D Good luck with finding the truth


Didn't Lolz actually admit that he used some Juice bhop hack or something because he was sure there was other people on xj using it?

Anyway, as someone who has actually been banned at this site for uploading a cheated demo before, i honestly don't think they should tell people what cheat people used and how it works etc. for some simple reasons.

First of all you can be sure that they would never ban someone, if they aren't 100% sure that the player is cheating. 2nd if you tell too much in depth about the cheat, you are only feeding other cheaters information and eventually actually helping them bypass XJ's demo admins. Also not telling about what cheats XJ can detect, can keep other people from cheating, since some people might actually be scared of getting banned. If XJ told exactly which kind of cheats that are detected, people might be more open to try new cheats, that haven't been seen/tested at xj.

jack frog14/11/2015 18:39

Originally posted by kalinskY
XJ should really make a detailed statement what is forbidden how does it works and so on.

Kreedzing is cs 1.6 with standard settings. You could consider anything modified a cheat. What is so hard about that lol.

Lynn was 100% a cheater bastard, but Xtreme-Jumps' explanation was a bit vague. They banned him, because his demos on Cosy were cheated. So you can imagine they couldn't find the cheat in his XJ demos.

Ducu22/12/2015 17:20

vns also admited at one point he was cheating, they all prolly had some juice hack modified.

juice had a webpage selling the hack for some money for hns players, he kinda destroyed kz scene but here we go

JocA Banned22/12/2015 22:25

they should unban juice and give him demo checker postion, im 100% serious...if he know how to hack why shouldnt he catch some cheaters..?

Mrjuice*22/12/2015 22:40

kz endo sucks ban me for "imposible times"

but that community is dying ;)

D2B22/12/2015 23:04

Originally posted by Mrjuice*
kz endo sucks ban me for "imposible times"

but that community is dying ;)

That was a nice prank

p0ker Tournament #2 VIP08/11/2017 18:39(edited 08/11/2017 18:41)

I'll be reviving this thread.

The cs-burgas issue was actually solved. Army of 0n3 (the guy who made the AC there) didn't have much knowledge about how the cs engine worked back then and made it so whenever someone does over 5 perfect bhops or something like this he gets to be banned for bhop hack. Many jumpers got banned for this, even noobs but in the end they changed it because in reality jumpers tend to get a lot of perfect consecutive bhops when playing a lot. People like lambda or mr juice even have 10+ perfect bhops in WR demos. Fiveshot, the previous demochecker of CC can confirm.

Now onto the KZ-endo. Fantasm just proved to me today that he's liar who simply doesn't like new players. I still have the demo from that night and everyone can check it if he wants to. The original reason for the ban was because I was doing 260-265 mcjs with 15-20 ducks and someone thought that the GS was too 'smooth' which resulted in fantasm spectating me and banning me for 'macro', something I didn't even know what it was back in the day.
Yesterday though, I finally managed to contact with kz-endo's owner after trying before but unsuccesfully (Ryan can confirm) and he did unban me but later one he simply responded with that -


tenub - ???? ? 17:21
Fantasm said you were speed hacking
And he won't change his mind


Speed hacking, yes you read that right. From macro it went to speed hacking. I don't know what's wrong with fantasm but he can check all my pretty bad times for 2014 and 2015 and see if any of them has -1 min from wr which would be the appropiate time for when someone speed hacks.

It's also ridiculous to use any similar hack or macro or w/e in a server like kz-endo where anticheats are as good as nobkz and other popular servers.

And he never accepted me on steam or never told me what he wants me to do in order to proof that I didn't use any hacks, he just spectated me and based all of his 'speed hack :D' reasoning without saving any demo or proof or w/e.

No offence to kz-endo in general, it's good community, good servers and so on, but if we were to talk specifically about Fantasm, then yes, he lost all of my respect when I read that bold lie which is from 'macro' to 'speed hack'.

I would be lying if I said that I didn't write this just to expose how fantasm determinates cheaters.. good job my man.

C.R.Orecord holder08/11/2017 18:59(edited 08/11/2017 19:10)

Originally posted by p0ker
I'll be reviving this thread.

The cs-burgas issue was actually solved. Army of 0n3 (the guy who made the AC there) didn't have much knowledge about how the cs engine worked back then and made it so whenever someone does over 5 perfect bhops or something like this he gets to be banned for bhop hack. Many jumpers got banned for this, even noobs but in the end they changed it because in reality jumpers tend to get a lot of perfect consecutive bhops when playing a lot. People like lambda or mr juice even have 10+ perfect bhops in WR demos. Fiveshot, the previous demochecker of CC can confirm.

Now onto the KZ-endo. Fantasm just proved to me today that he's liar who simply doesn't like new players. I still have the demo from that night and everyone can check it if he wants to. The original reason for the ban was because I was doing 260-265 mcjs with 15-20 ducks and someone thought that the GS was too 'smooth' which resulted in fantasm spectating me and banning me for 'macro', something I didn't even know what it was back in the day.
Yesterday though, I finally managed to contact with kz-endo's owner after trying before but unsuccesfully (Ryan can confirm) and he did unban me but later one he simply responded with that -


tenub - ???? ? 17:21
Fantasm said you were speed hacking
And he won't change his mind


Speed hacking, yes you read that right. From macro it went to speed hacking. I don't know what's wrong with fantasm but he can check all my pretty bad times for 2014 and 2015 and see if any of them has -1 min from wr which would be the appropiate time for when someone speed hacks.

It's also ridiculous to use any similar hack or macro or w/e in a server like kz-endo where anticheats are as good as nobkz and other popular servers.

And he never accepted me on steam or never told me what he wants me to do in order to proof that I didn't use any hacks, he just spectated me and based all of his 'speed hack :D' reasoning without saving any demo or proof or w/e.

No offence to kz-endo in general, it's good community, good servers and so on, but if we were to talk specifically about Fantasm, then yes, he lost all of my respect when I read that bold lie which is from 'macro' to 'speed hack'.

I would be lying if I said that I didn't write this just to expose how fantasm determinates cheaters.. good job my man.


Well, we al know Fantasm is a moron.. It just takes beating one random cosy wr in pub to get you banned by that retard.
Its a shame because endo is a great server filled with great people, but that autist deserves no spot there. He has 0 understanding of hacks, he doesnt have understanding of the demochecking process. He doesnt even know what a macro does. He doesnt understand how KZ works. He once told me “youre using the BOT WR plugin to do most of the run for you and then you finish it” I feel bad for him, he plays since 2007 and didnt seem to improve any of his skills by today. Its like instead of blaming him for never learning he blames you. Ive never met someone THAT stupid lol

Well I don't know about you afu.. I can only speak about myself. Considering what you've been doing on XJ, a guy with such personality seems to be someone who would use hacks at least once..

So the only thing I can talk about with certainty is my own ban, nothing else. Fantasm might have banned people who were actually cheaters in the past, but he made a big mistake with me.

C.R.Orecord holder08/11/2017 19:28

Whatever.. there is no checking process to get you banned there. If they (fantasm) think you hack, you hack

rawerecord holder Tournament #109/11/2017 00:41

Originally posted by p0ker
I'll be reviving this thread.

The cs-burgas issue was actually solved. Army of 0n3 (the guy who made the AC there) didn't have much knowledge about how the cs engine worked back then and made it so whenever someone does over 5 perfect bhops or something like this he gets to be banned for bhop hack. Many jumpers got banned for this, even noobs but in the end they changed it because in reality jumpers tend to get a lot of perfect consecutive bhops when playing a lot. People like lambda or mr juice even have 10+ perfect bhops in WR demos. Fiveshot, the previous demochecker of CC can confirm.

Now onto the KZ-endo. Fantasm just proved to me today that he's liar who simply doesn't like new players. I still have the demo from that night and everyone can check it if he wants to. The original reason for the ban was because I was doing 260-265 mcjs with 15-20 ducks and someone thought that the GS was too 'smooth' which resulted in fantasm spectating me and banning me for 'macro', something I didn't even know what it was back in the day.
Yesterday though, I finally managed to contact with kz-endo's owner after trying before but unsuccesfully (Ryan can confirm) and he did unban me but later one he simply responded with that -


tenub - ???? ? 17:21
Fantasm said you were speed hacking
And he won't change his mind


Speed hacking, yes you read that right. From macro it went to speed hacking. I don't know what's wrong with fantasm but he can check all my pretty bad times for 2014 and 2015 and see if any of them has -1 min from wr which would be the appropiate time for when someone speed hacks.

It's also ridiculous to use any similar hack or macro or w/e in a server like kz-endo where anticheats are as good as nobkz and other popular servers.

And he never accepted me on steam or never told me what he wants me to do in order to proof that I didn't use any hacks, he just spectated me and based all of his 'speed hack :D' reasoning without saving any demo or proof or w/e.

No offence to kz-endo in general, it's good community, good servers and so on, but if we were to talk specifically about Fantasm, then yes, he lost all of my respect when I read that bold lie which is from 'macro' to 'speed hack'.

I would be lying if I said that I didn't write this just to expose how fantasm determinates cheaters.. good job my man.


Same, I was doing 30+ ducks MCJ's and I was asked "what macro do you use?" lolwat

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