Are these legal jumps fame?
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25/06/2016 15:16Why not just name the demo so FAME can check it once again
I always glad to see new people do demo checking, but the way do you it is wrong. The tools you got (greets to British prick) is only 10% of what you need to check demos, other 90% is knowledge which you obviously lack. It's kind of offensive to hear from people who know nothing that I'm bad at doing my job as demo admin, and yes you know nothing if you asking me about perfect bhops without even providing all necessary information like horizontal speed to determine whether it's perfect bhop or not.
Originally posted by hoLyOh, by the way, how would FAME be able to catch hackers when it's widely known in the CS community that minimum 10$ hacks aren't undetected for years sometimes, even by the best anti-cheat coders? Just my 2 cents.
I'm supposed to be worse than those 'best anti-cheat coders'? I'm afraid you overrate eDark too much.
Originally posted by Selhouette333Why not just name the demo so FAME can check it once again
I bet those screens are from either Mrjuice or shxKh demos. If so, no need for me to check these demos again if they already were released on XJ by me. You can call me overconfident but I've spent more than enough time on checking demos of these players to be sure they are clean.
25/06/2016 16:35I wasn't necessarily thinking about eDark but whatever.
No one is saying that you are a bad demochecker im sure that u are the best. My question is about the jumps in this picturs so can u answer me why this mouse patterns start in the same time with frames on the ground? Is not that means he rolls his scroll in exactly same time as he touching the ground? Its not about few jumps its about 90% of jumps of all his demos.
Originally posted by Fiveshotwhy this mouse patterns start in the same time with frames on the ground? Is not that means he rolls his scroll in exactly same time as he touching the ground? Its not about few jumps its about 90% of jumps of all his demos.
If he would scroll jump in the same frame with ground touch then he would have all bhops with 1 frame on ground but as you can see he has quite a lot bhops with 2+ FOG. Anyway, it is the way he used to do bhop and there's nothing wrong about that.
^easily showing potential for being the thread of the year.
Yes maybe back in 2008 cheats woud do that :D but u best then anyone here knows that much frames, less speed from time to time make the cheat looks legit.
OK here it is last photos: this is a demo from CC, its another player. I know about him from long time and i think he has very similar jumps.
So same jump times with small difference about amount of jump signals u can see even 2 jump signals in to 1 FOG and yes it is accepted.
25/06/2016 23:52I want the names so bad
Originally posted by FiveshotOK here it is last photos: this is a demo from CC, its another player. I know about him from long time and i think he has very similar jumps.
So same jump times with small difference about amount of jump signals u can see even 2 jump signals in to 1 FOG and yes it is accepted.
This is not CC tho
26/06/2016 18:11Originally posted by fykseNI want the names so bad
Fiveshot
I really hope developement for democheck keeps going further so this community can be even better. Even if FAME is making a great job.
"The best defense is a good offense", I like the way you approach CS, FAME.
Lets accept that it is normal to rolls half potential of mwheel (2 , 3 scrols) and to roll same time even 1milisec after u hit the ground for a wr run. As FAME says it is normal.. fine. Wr demos from picturs
Mrjuice bkz_junglebhop, bhop_csr and a randomly neXt demo. Forgot to say that u mention the jumper only by his mwheel patterns.. It seems they rly look suspicious but maybe u did not find nothing more.
Originally posted by FAMEI always glad to see new people do demo checking, but the way do you it is wrong. The tools you got (greets to British prick) is only 10% of what you need to check demos, other 90% is knowledge which you obviously lack. It's kind of offensive to hear from people who know nothing that I'm bad at doing my job as demo admin, and yes you know nothing if you asking me about perfect bhops without even providing all necessary information like horizontal speed to determine whether it's perfect bhop or not.
Nice ad hominem
28/06/2016 23:20(edited 28/06/2016 23:38)Originally posted by FiveshotLets accept that it is normal to rolls half potential of mwheel (2 , 3 scrols) and to roll same time even 1milisec after u hit the ground for a wr run. As FAME says it is normal.. fine. Wr demos from picturs
Mrjuice bkz_junglebhop, bhop_csr and a randomly neXt demo. Forgot to say that u mention the jumper only by his mwheel patterns.. It seems they rly look suspicious but maybe u did not find nothing more.
I can tell you, with a very small experience as demochecker for kz-arg, and having maybe a 1% of the knowledge that fame has got, that identifying a player for his scroll patterns is absolutely normal, it depends of the jumper's style, in fact I recognized Mrjuice's bhops watching your pics, so fame did it too but not because he's getting crazy trying to find cheats, he did it just because he knows his style and also Mrjuice is one of the 'more-hated' player, he is always being accused (without any proof) from cheating on servers like kz-endo, just because he leeds the top-pro on some maps with a wr time. I guess it is a sort of envy, maybe some people should stop accusing him and let fame doing his job in peace.
Btw I thought as well as you that I could find some cheater on xj just analyzing the scroll patterns on the graph, but it's more complex. For example, Check VNS's or LyNn's demos and you wont find anything
29/06/2016 02:13Originally posted by AguslashOriginally posted by FiveshotLets accept that it is normal to rolls half potential of mwheel (2 , 3 scrols) and to roll same time even 1milisec after u hit the ground for a wr run. As FAME says it is normal.. fine. Wr demos from picturs
Mrjuice bkz_junglebhop, bhop_csr and a randomly neXt demo. Forgot to say that u mention the jumper only by his mwheel patterns.. It seems they rly look suspicious but maybe u did not find nothing more.
I can tell you, with a very small experience as demochecker for kz-arg, and having maybe a 1% of the knowledge that fame has got, that identifying a player for his scroll patterns is absolutely normal, it depends of the jumper's style, in fact I recognized Mrjuice's bhops watching your pics, so fame did it too but not because he's getting crazy trying to find cheats, he did it just because he knows his style and also Mrjuice is one of the 'more-hated' player, he is always being accused (without any proof) from cheating on servers like kz-endo, just because he leeds the top-pro on some maps with a wr time. I guess it is a sort of envy, maybe some people should stop accusing him and let fame doing his job in peace.
Btw I thought as well as you that I could find some cheater on xj just analyzing the scroll patterns on the graph, but it's more complex. For example, Check VNS's or LyNn's demos and you wont find anything
+1
+1 for Argentine support united friends! Im not agreed about vns cuz he was suspected about those 2 3 mwheel patterns i remember how fame pointed suspicious "cheated" patterns (2, 3) in vns demos, so xjs ban vns because his playstyle :D
Admins can lock this doomed topic.
29/06/2016 19:39(edited 30/06/2016 15:16)Originally posted by AguslashI can tell you, with a very small experience as demochecker for kz-arg, and having maybe a 1% of the knowledge that fame has got, that identifying a player for his scroll patterns is absolutely normal, it depends of the jumper's style, in fact I recognized Mrjuice's bhops watching your pics, so fame did it too but not because he's getting crazy trying to find cheats, he did it just because he knows his style and also Mrjuice is one of the 'more-hated' player, he is always being accused (without any proof) from cheating on servers like kz-endo, just because he leeds the top-pro on some maps with a wr time. I guess it is a sort of envy, maybe some people should stop accusing him and let fame doing his job in peace.
Btw I thought as well as you that I could find some cheater on xj just analyzing the scroll patterns on the graph, but it's more complex. For example, Check VNS's or LyNn's demos and you wont find anything
It's simple: any player that gets top1 on endo is cheating and will be banned.
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