Is it really random?
15/09/2016 16:17(edited 15/09/2016 16:20)Hi! I have this question for a loooooong time.
So... some years ago I saw a player jumping with an lj script. It was a 253 lj with 8 strafes and a "constant" 278 pre. BUT......... sometimes he was getting 252/251 stats and 277/276 pre. My question is: If a script does the exact same movements all the time, how was he getting different pres and stats?
15/09/2016 18:56I'm not much into cheats but not all of them are 100% robotized, there are cheats like strafe emulators that only do sync for you while you're moving your mouse and do keyboard movements on the ground. With the same strafe count, sync and prestrafe you can easily get different jump lenghts all the time as it depends on a lot of other factors too, such as amplitude, quickness, straight-forwardness of strafes and how late you press duck. You see.
I also have question about cheat...please admin dont close the thread cuz the thread wont help any hacker
About slowmo: cheater when uses slowmo hack, he's seeing all slowly, but when we spectate him, its totally normal....
How is that possible? I hope im right with it lol
I'm no cheat expert but I'm guessing the script can have some pseudo-random movement generation that is slightly different with every jump so it doesn't look so obvious.
Also you saw him on a server, I guess there might be some issue when there is a connection between user -> server?
Might be dependant on how far into the block you start your pre? Also as shock mentioned, how late you press duck should also be a factor.
I'm just wild guessing though and shouldn't be taken seriously if you are looking for a 100% accurate answer. I'm just giving an opinion of a person who hasn't used scripts and has only seen a few demos made with scripts.
15/09/2016 20:12Originally posted by JocAI also have question about cheat...please admin dont close the thread cuz the thread wont help any hacker
About slowmo: cheater when uses slowmo hack, he's seeing all slowly, but when we spectate him, its totally normal....
How is that possible? I hope im right with it lol
Of course you're right JocA, there is nothing so surprising about it, I don't really understand your reaction...
i though when you changed your nick you ill change so you ill be a normal dude but ahhhh :( spam more please and ofcourse ill be banned again, ez to understand
EDIT: You are really a retard...wasnt that hard to recognize it
16/09/2016 19:22I think you're being too edgy JocA
18/09/2016 02:13Nice fight.
/popcorn
No need for popcorns cuz why should i waste my words and nervs on that biggest troller here? :D
18/09/2016 15:39Originally posted by JocANo need for popcorns cuz why should i waste my words and nervs on that biggest troller here? :D
WOOF's feelings have been shattered right now.
I think you're being too edgy ShoCky
I think you're being too edgy WOOFy
19/09/2016 02:43Ok, why did this "fight" start? I can't get it. I never never know when you guys are being serious or just sarcastic.
Good question, i was wondering (and still) how does slowmo hack works, but that tard replied with some mega stupid-sarcastic comment, which a little hard to tolerate to be honest...
Like, how Lynn cheated here or VNS or/and many others...did they use only bhop script (without slowmotion) and strafe script (something like you discribed) or just Slowmo or maybe something 4. .. :)
Nono JocA, you absolutely right. When you use slowmo, spectators see you in normal speed because wonderful CS engine can predict your next actions/movements and show it to spectators.
Before insulting someone think about how stupid your question is, you little ignorant kid.
On topic:
Scripts are really outdated way of cheating and you indeed would have the same statistics each jump with it if your FPS is constant. However, modern hacks can be randomized as much as you want to make it less detectable. Basically you don't even need to press any key with bound cheat command, you can do your regular strafes and cheat will just adjust some values in engine so you could jump farther.
@FAME, and i assumed at first it was stupid but then i wouldnt ask it cuz: we heard a lot of times in in the past (i cant tell if these words were true = dunno if demo admins were saying it) that some players used Slowmo hack...but when we watch their demos (SO it cant be sayed Spectacting, cuz we are not playing) its in "Present speed", maybe it is now easier to imagine what i was saying...
19/09/2016 17:41Fame, we should have a separate records section where you HAVE to include a handshow and show your task manager before and after recording as well as your screen and kb etc to minimize cheating, not just your demo, what do you think?
we should livestream handshow wrs with demo admins connected through teamviewer to the pc to count them legit, what do you think sooshka?
@Joca they do the jump/run in slowmotion mode but later one with the hack or the program or w/e it is they accelerate the speed of the demo and thus they save it on a higher speed than the original one. At least thats what i know about these type of hacksa and thats why its so hard to catch them. They work only on lan i mean their only purpose is world records and such cuz otherwise they would be caught immediately if used on public. :D
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