XJD's demo, release #727

Started by nike
27/04/2018 22:52
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rawerecord holder Tournament #128/04/2018 18:25

Originally posted by Damag3d
Yes it looks suspicious but only enough skilled coder who can PROOF can tell if that is cheat... The truth is that everyone can be cheater even in top5 ...it will not surprise me if some BIG NAMED player get busted... i will write it again : People stealing millions from the banks without be catched so what about our game :)


Braindamag3d strikes again

JamBawa28/04/2018 18:28

Someone could actually pick up on the movement/animation of the "flames" at the start of the map to detect any splicing I guess :DD

sajkee. mapperrecord holder28/04/2018 18:31

Well, i guess this guy is starter in climbing, so i can say that all of us must go through that damn feeling when you can't control your arms and fingers and concencrate to game as much as possible...

rawerecord holder Tournament #128/04/2018 18:33

Originally posted by SAJKEE
Well, i guess this guy is starter in climbing, so i can say that all of us must go through that damn feeling when you can't control your arms and fingers and concencrate to game as much as possible...


Is not a new player, it's a multiaccount...

JocA Banned28/04/2018 18:48

patchuli just trying new things :p

fykseN mapperrecord holder Tournament #128/04/2018 19:49

Originally posted by JocA
patchuli just trying new things :p


patchouli actually reported this suspicious demo

jack frog28/04/2018 20:23

Originally posted by badgamer
Originally posted by jack frog
I wonder if you would've said the same if my demo got accepted. Did you actually play the map? When you stop on one of these blocks it's the best way to get speed by pressing W again, because the space is so short.

To say that, you didn't read & look videos he posted obviously.

I did. That's how inexperienced recorders jump. They want to make every move right because it's recording.
The only real suspicious thing is what FuErZzzZa^ pointed out, because the player position switches

Keo mapper28/04/2018 20:26

wow, nice find, nike! It's so obvious now, after seeing that first video. Interesting how it slipped and managed to get in the release.

nike28/04/2018 20:34(edited 28/04/2018 20:47)

Originally posted by jack frog
Originally posted by badgamer
Originally posted by jack frog
I wonder if you would've said the same if my demo got accepted. Did you actually play the map? When you stop on one of these blocks it's the best way to get speed by pressing W again, because the space is so short.

To say that, you didn't read & look videos he posted obviously.

I did. That's how inexperienced recorders jump. They want to make every move right because it's recording.
The only real suspicious thing is what FuErZzzZa^ pointed out, because the player position switches

But the player's position remains the same, it's the mouse position that changes. If you watch my video you'll see that's what I showcased. I captured every blatant moment that happened but I assure you there are more subtle instances. It's either
a) smoothed out movement because he cut in 1 position and then started in another position(3rd party automatic smoothing between mouse position A and B)
b) he moves his mouse while doing the cut ending in the abrupt dead stop no mouse movement but continued player movement
c) he moves his mouse to a location before cutting and this movement combined with the movements to come AFTER the cut while look very robotic and unnatural
It's the first thing I noticed when I started doing my "no fail extreme maps" showcases. It's EXTREMELY difficult to make a smooth cut while moving because mouse movements before and after will almost always be at different speeds UNLESS you don't move your mouse at all, in which case you will end up looking like XJD.

Originally posted by SAJKEE
Well, i guess this guy is starter in climbing, so i can say that all of us must go through that damn feeling when you can't control your arms and fingers and concencrate to game as much as possible...

The demo is untampered with, played in real-time. The movements are pre-recorded segments spliced together to make one run. For example:
click button, turn around, CUT, bhop combo 1, CUT, jump 1, jump 2, jump 3, CUT, jump 4, CUT, jump 5, CUT, jump and run, CUT mid-run, bhop combo 2, CUT
There can obviously be more or fewer cuts, I have no idea. I showed the places that were most obvious to me.

klinch28/04/2018 21:31

rawe i can strike your ass ;)

badgamer mapperrecord holder28/04/2018 21:36

Like a TAS run but done manually.

jaguarBR mapper28/04/2018 21:48

Originally posted by badgamer
Like a TAS run but done manually.


i thought the same thing
a really shitty tas tho

klinch28/04/2018 23:03

its so sad that all ss demos will be beaten soon

surRendirecord holder28/04/2018 23:50

Originally posted by Damag3d
its so sad that all ss demos will be beaten soon

Why do you say that?

klinch29/04/2018 00:46

its how it is sry

Gorbachev_x mapper29/04/2018 04:07

nikerino for president!

Commandeer mapper29/04/2018 12:22(edited 29/04/2018 12:23)

This demo was marked as checked so I only took a quick look at it. This is exactly what I mean when I say there should always be many pairs of eyes looking at the same things, a lot more gets noticed that way. Luckily we have hundreds of great players with experienced eyes working with us.

Big thanks to nike for making this thread and the videos, we are currently looking at this case!

fykseN mapperrecord holder Tournament #129/04/2018 14:28

Originally posted by Commandeer
This demo was marked as checked so I only took a quick look at it. This is exactly what I mean when I say there should always be many pairs of eyes looking at the same things, a lot more gets noticed that way. Luckily we have hundreds of great players with experienced eyes working with us.

Big thanks to nike for making this thread and the videos, we are currently looking at this case!


you should thank patchouli for mentioning the names, that was the first impulse for fame to start going deeper... nike meant well, but he caused that the player will never submit anything on his main account, now that everybody knows

JocA Banned29/04/2018 15:14

@fyksen can u be more specific what patchuli did on this case?
for me, with present evidence, i will more believe patchuli made a retarded deal with that retarded and he is just trying to be fair/clean player (by reporting his friend), cuz more of the half dont believe in his skills, obviously

nike29/04/2018 15:27

Originally posted by fykseN
you should thank patchouli for mentioning the names, that was the first impulse for fame to start going deeper... nike meant well, but he caused that the player will never submit anything on his main account, now that everybody knows

nike ruins the day once again.
next time patchouli doesnt have insider cheat information I will catch him again, don't worry baby

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