Bhop Breaking

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18/10/2019 09:00
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timecard25/10/2019 19:47

Is it one publicly available? Looks neat.

Fiveshot25/10/2019 21:20

after reinstalling the game my problem is fixed

timecard25/10/2019 21:40

until the next time, a day, a week. :D

Commandeer mapper27/10/2019 11:45(edited 27/10/2019 11:46)

Originally posted by timecard
Is it one publicly available? Looks neat.

Yes you can try it here.

I tested my bhops on flat ground and bhop blocks but didn't notice anything strange. I think the breaking feeling was caused by having multiple +jump commands on a single frame. Does anyone still have this problem after the last update?

JocA Banned27/10/2019 15:10

Oh i hoped it can get the same informations for Public demos as for Lan :s

ps: its awesome tool especailly its web, but the thing its allowed to everyone to access, is big plus for hackers? :(

Chichin mapperrecord holder27/10/2019 19:11

Originally posted by JocA
Oh i hoped it can get the same informations for Public demos as for Lan :s

ps: its awesome tool especailly its web, but the thing its allowed to everyone to access, is big plus for hackers? :(


that tool only parses demos and plots the frames, you think that hackers care about that being public?

JocA Banned27/10/2019 22:04(edited 27/10/2019 22:05)

Originally posted by Chichin
Originally posted by JocA
Oh i hoped it can get the same informations for Public demos as for Lan :s

ps: its awesome tool especailly its web, but the thing its allowed to everyone to access, is big plus for hackers? :(


that tool only parses demos and plots the frames, you think that hackers care about that being public?

So if its maximum to get from the demos then this is the easiest way for them to 'control' their hack's behavoir? We know some of the hacks aims preferably on passing xj/cc democheckins...about other cheat/hacks which are for pub-fun, then this is nothing probably...hope any hacker-who-code can correct me :]

NOEL27/10/2019 22:56

Demo hacking tools have been leaked for years. The coders don't need to make anything more advanced since everything has already been created at this point.
Strafe hacks, completely undetectable bhop hacks with randomized input, dd hacks that work in similar fashion, even jb hacks, demo splicing tools etc.
Then on top of it you have a history of demo admins turning a blind eye towards certain players, demo admins who were active players and cheated themselves and players who are well known for being cheat-coders, and yet, are still to this day being allowed to be a big part of the community.

Don't worry about something like this being public, it's nothing new and even if it was it wouldn't matter. There are no demo checkers left who are capable of detecting anything anyway and that's not meant as an insult to anybody, it's not exactly a fair fight.

Commandeer mapper29/10/2019 12:28(edited 29/10/2019 12:29)

Originally posted by JocA
Originally posted by Chichin
Originally posted by JocA
Oh i hoped it can get the same informations for Public demos as for Lan :s

ps: its awesome tool especailly its web, but the thing its allowed to everyone to access, is big plus for hackers? :(

that tool only parses demos and plots the frames, you think that hackers care about that being public?

So if its maximum to get from the demos then this is the easiest way for them to 'control' their hack's behavoir? We know some of the hacks aims preferably on passing xj/cc democheckins...about other cheat/hacks which are for pub-fun, then this is nothing probably...hope any hacker-who-code can correct me :]

The features to get more information out of public demos are already implemented, just not fully done yet. About the tool being public, it shows the same info to you as all the older programs have shown (fps-death, demoxplorer). And let's just say you can extract a lot more information out of demos than what you see there.

Fiveshot29/10/2019 23:30

Originally posted by Commandeer
The features to get more information out of public demos are already implemented, just not fully done yet. About the tool being public, it shows the same info to you as all the older programs have shown (fps-death, demoxplorer). And let's just say you can extract a lot more information out of demos than what you see there.

lol'd hard x2

Chichin mapperrecord holder30/10/2019 11:12

Originally posted by Fiveshot
Originally posted by Commandeer
The features to get more information out of public demos are already implemented, just not fully done yet. About the tool being public, it shows the same info to you as all the older programs have shown (fps-death, demoxplorer). And let's just say you can extract a lot more information out of demos than what you see there.

lol'd hard x2


lol'd average x1

Nukk31/10/2019 18:33

lol'd at NOEL talking about cheaters and not mentioning my name in his comment

NOEL01/11/2019 11:22

Originally posted by Nukk
lol'd at NOEL talking about cheaters and not mentioning my name in his comment


I doubt that I've mentioned your name in 6 or 7 years, I genuinely forgot you existed. It's amusing to see you're still obsessed with me though, I always imagined you as a guy who didn't have too much going on in his life - especially after you declared your hatred towards me - so I can't say I'm shocked by your comment.

Anyway I don't need to mention your name, everyone knows you cheated. People were making fun of you on publics servers back in the day. Your compulsive need to deflect any and every accusation against you was funny back then, now it's just pathetic.

Why you never got busted is anyone's guess, your old X7 dd demos were so easily detectable, anyone could do it today, but I guess you never used it in an XJ demo and maybe that's why you weren't banned (it's also worth mentioning that to my knowledge, no one has ever gotten banned for using a dd hack on this site - and making one takes 30 seconds in SetPoint). As for your bhop demos, you could have used anything, but I'm sure being russian didn't hurt your chances of finding one.
I'm not going to slander a dead man, but being a friend of FAME that could have stopped him from ever looking into you. Let's not forget he cheated too. You don't even have to be a demo checker to see that, proof is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLtRQJOEh4
at 27 seconds into the clip.
Ironically he later became the only person capable of detecting the gain plugin, would you believe that? If he shared that knowledge and the program he used with anyone else I'm ready to be corrected, but I doubt it.

If you're going to talk about not getting banned as some sort of proof that you didn't cheat, just go read the VNS ban news. How many bhop hacks was it he used over the years, 6 different ones?
Anyway believe me man, I don't hate you, I don't even dislike you. I genuinely don't care about you and I mean that in the least offensive way possible.

Fiveshot01/11/2019 13:00

Originally posted by NOEL
Originally posted by Nukk
lol'd at NOEL talking about cheaters and not mentioning my name in his comment


I doubt that I've mentioned your name in 6 or 7 years, I genuinely forgot you existed. It's amusing to see you're still obsessed with me though, I always imagined you as a guy who didn't have too much going on in his life - especially after you declared your hatred towards me - so I can't say I'm shocked by your comment.

Anyway I don't need to mention your name, everyone knows you cheated. People were making fun of you on publics servers back in the day. Your compulsive need to deflect any and every accusation against you was funny back then, now it's just pathetic.

Why you never got busted is anyone's guess, your old X7 dd demos were so easily detectable, anyone could do it today, but I guess you never used it in an XJ demo and maybe that's why you weren't banned (it's also worth mentioning that to my knowledge, no one has ever gotten banned for using a dd hack on this site - and making one takes 30 seconds in SetPoint). As for your bhop demos, you could have used anything, but I'm sure being russian didn't hurt your chances of finding one.
I'm not going to slander a dead man, but being a friend of FAME that could have stopped him from ever looking into you. Let's not forget he cheated too. You don't even have to be a demo checker to see that, proof is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLtRQJOEh4
at 27 seconds into the clip.
Ironically he later became the only person capable of detecting the gain plugin, would you believe that? If he shared that knowledge and the program he used with anyone else I'm ready to be corrected, but I doubt it.

If you're going to talk about not getting banned as some sort of proof that you didn't cheat, just go read the VNS ban news. How many bhop hacks was it he used over the years, 6 different ones?
Anyway believe me man, I don't hate you, I don't even dislike you. I genuinely don't care about you and I mean that in the least offensive way possible.

lol'd hard x3
a cheater accusing other ppl in cheating

NOEL01/11/2019 16:05

Originally posted by Fiveshot
Originally posted by NOEL
Originally posted by Nukk
lol'd at NOEL talking about cheaters and not mentioning my name in his comment


I doubt that I've mentioned your name in 6 or 7 years, I genuinely forgot you existed. It's amusing to see you're still obsessed with me though, I always imagined you as a guy who didn't have too much going on in his life - especially after you declared your hatred towards me - so I can't say I'm shocked by your comment.

Anyway I don't need to mention your name, everyone knows you cheated. People were making fun of you on publics servers back in the day. Your compulsive need to deflect any and every accusation against you was funny back then, now it's just pathetic.

Why you never got busted is anyone's guess, your old X7 dd demos were so easily detectable, anyone could do it today, but I guess you never used it in an XJ demo and maybe that's why you weren't banned (it's also worth mentioning that to my knowledge, no one has ever gotten banned for using a dd hack on this site - and making one takes 30 seconds in SetPoint). As for your bhop demos, you could have used anything, but I'm sure being russian didn't hurt your chances of finding one.
I'm not going to slander a dead man, but being a friend of FAME that could have stopped him from ever looking into you. Let's not forget he cheated too. You don't even have to be a demo checker to see that, proof is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLtRQJOEh4
at 27 seconds into the clip.
Ironically he later became the only person capable of detecting the gain plugin, would you believe that? If he shared that knowledge and the program he used with anyone else I'm ready to be corrected, but I doubt it.

If you're going to talk about not getting banned as some sort of proof that you didn't cheat, just go read the VNS ban news. How many bhop hacks was it he used over the years, 6 different ones?
Anyway believe me man, I don't hate you, I don't even dislike you. I genuinely don't care about you and I mean that in the least offensive way possible.

lol'd hard x3
a cheater accusing other ppl in cheating


I have no idea who you are, but if you can explain to me why that would make my 'accusation' illegitimate, I'd love to hear it.

Fiveshot01/11/2019 16:57

Originally posted by NOEL
As for your bhop demos, you could have used anything, but I'm sure being russian didn't hurt your chances of finding one.
I'm not going to slander a dead man, but being a friend of FAME that could have stopped him from ever looking into you. Let's not forget he cheated too. You don't even have to be a demo checker to see that, proof is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCLtRQJOEh4
at 27 seconds into the clip.

That is ridiculous.. you simply accusing the one for being Russian, second for.. i'm not rly sure what have u pointed with this video. Also don't be disrespectful towards FAME with your ignorance..

NOEL01/11/2019 17:17

Accusing him of his nationality? I'm simply stating his nationality and the fact is, that there were a fair amount of coders from Russia. The one who made the most amount of hacks was juice for instance, I dont think he ever denied it either.

Well, if you can find me another 257 sideways long jump with 349.2 maxspeed from before that video was made, then I'll gladly pipe down. My claim is that it's impossible without a strafe hack of some sort (like the gain plugin, with which it's very much possible).

Juice01/11/2019 17:21(edited 01/11/2019 17:21)

the only person capable of detecting the gain plugin


OMEGALUL shut the fuck up

NOEL01/11/2019 17:28

Originally posted by Juice

the only person capable of detecting the gain plugin


OMEGALUL shut the fuck up

Haha, not surprised to see you're still around. God knows how many of your hacks are still floating around. Imagine coding hacks for fun, I mean lmao. How much money did you make from selling them over the years? Can't have been much.

Anyway like I said, show me then, who else and how?

Juice01/11/2019 18:06(edited 01/11/2019 18:11)

Imagine not having fun, I mean lmao.
Of course, I will show you. Have a look: http://unique-kz.net/news.php?id=682

Also thank you for transforming this thread into yet another cheating-accusation stream of bullshit. Do you remember what happened to your XJ account in 2009? :)

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