topoviygus vs shooting-star
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Hadi18/07/2020 00:17
Originally posted by zythH^Are you really comparing LEWLY who had 10 years experience when he beat everyone back in 2014 with a 18 years old dude that quit for some reasonable time to lose a decent amount of skill and then comeback BETTER than EVERYONE? In best case scenario he started playing this game at 10 years old and that would give him 8 years of experience, which people didn't really support that, so he might have max 3/4 years experience and mastering extreme maps, bhop maps, speed climbing maps like its nothing lmao. You are literally saying that people like LEWLY that needed 10 years to rekt everyone and people like Toffifee, shNz, g-Lp who are extremely skilled at this get just OWNED by him? I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Well, i didn't play for 2 or 3 years, i came back when corona hit, i'm better than ever now, even back then i had a gaming pc and now im on a laptop, im way better.
Maybe quitting can make you better for some players?
Senkay18/07/2020 02:20
Gotta hop in this bait just because im bored af.
First, experience means nothing lot of ppl with lack of experience beat the sh*t out of experienced people everyday in many things in life. so why not this is one of those case?
Second, calling out someone cheater without solid proof is pointless and most of all you end up looking like a dumbass kid that just doesnt stand the fact that their beloved players got their ass wiped, lewly had a lot of demos with "unnatural" movements (mostly like a robot kek) and you didnt see no one calling "lewly cheater" (at least the ammount of years i've been around didnt see any)
Third, cut the bs with this trend of topoviygus agaisnt everyone, yall look like Cristiano Ronaldo fans vs Messi fans, if he's cheating we'll find out later on as zyth said its about time or maybe he's not cheating. better leave that to the xj staff. Until then just enjoy the fact that the community is alive and going.
btw Shooting-star > topoviygus
Ggs`18/07/2020 03:03
*troll face*
Phantometry18/07/2020 05:12
Originally posted by zythH^...I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Exactly. Time will show.
However, in this case, time will only show how many fools were around at topoviygus's era of domination :)
Originally posted by Senkaybtw Shooting-star > topoviygus
That's a big NO!
Now some serious talk in a VERY SERIOUS thread.
Trust me, there ain't that many things that can bypass a solid demochecker's eye these days (if he actually put some effort into the checking process). And I bet that topo's demos were checked DOZENS of times already. And guess what? They still got accepted.
As for the hacks, there only 3 possibilities of him cheating in 2020.
1st - topoviygus is nothing but a neural network that is learning to play the game on its own, and it becomes ONLY BETTER as time goes on.
2nd - another neural network that stops progressing whenever you desire. (means he will 'get stuck' at a certain level of skill and will not become any better. JumpBugs anyone? KEKW).
3rd - very unlikely he's very close to being a god of this game cuz he's just THAT GOOD.
Now, enjoy witch-hunting.
FLP18/07/2020 08:41
Originally posted by zythH^Originally posted by UniverseWasn't LEWLY kinda the same? He was playing only on pubs, having good times and some WR's here and there but when he decided that he wanted to record he kinda rofl stomped the whole XJ in that era as far as i remember. As for what is more ridiculous let's put it this way, having wr on goldbhop and fu_extreme and fu_insane or having wr on kz_3jumpbugsinaROW and qsk_azure and kz_dare. How about comparing with other WR's ? It's goldbhop or was it that good? Is it better than kzno_xtremeblock/kz_cliffez/kz_facility/kz_cg_extreme/kz_synergy_x, etc?
Are you really comparing LEWLY who had 10 years experience when he beat everyone back in 2014 with a 18 years old dude that quit for some reasonable time to lose a decent amount of skill and then comeback BETTER than EVERYONE? In best case scenario he started playing this game at 10 years old and that would give him 8 years of experience, which people didn't really support that, so he might have max 3/4 years experience and mastering extreme maps, bhop maps, speed climbing maps like its nothing lmao. You are literally saying that people like LEWLY that needed 10 years to rekt everyone and people like Toffifee, shNz, g-Lp who are extremely skilled at this get just OWNED by him? I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Ty brother,It amazes me after so many years and after LyNn case that people still don't understand what is possible and what is not in this game.
Instead of focusing on the ammount of demos focus on the runs itself,let me put it this way,you would need less time and less skill to beat Lewleys and Fyksens 100 demos than to beat kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ which was probably the best run ever.
If I had to pick 10 best and hardest to beat records on xj this would probably be the list:
kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ
patchouli's kz_synergy_x
patchouli's kzno_xtremeblock
Kkz's kz_rambo_xen
kzz1lla's bkz_wallblock
kzz1lla's clintmo_bhopbarrels
Ss's kz_cg_wigbl0ck
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[1337trees]
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[sequoia
And probably sHnz's prochallenge_bhop
Beating 2 records from that list is impossible but very hard,beating 4 of them in 1 month by one fucking player is not humanly possible.
xdrive18/07/2020 11:42
@FLP not humanly possible ? Im not saying he’s clean but i bet he reads the replies on this thread and feels really good
JocA 18/07/2020 11:48
i remember he answered to some haters with handshow of some wr, and they silenced...now this thread, i would like to see his reply now :D
fykseN 
18/07/2020 12:04
18/07/2020 12:04Originally posted by PhantometryOriginally posted by zythH^...I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Exactly. Time will show.
However, in this case, time will only show how many fools were around at topoviygus's era of domination :)Originally posted by Senkaybtw Shooting-star > topoviygus
That's a big NO!
Now some serious talk in a VERY SERIOUS thread.
Trust me, there ain't that many things that can bypass a solid demochecker's eye these days (if he actually put some effort into the checking process). And I bet that topo's demos were checked DOZENS of times already. And guess what? They still got accepted.
As for the hacks, there only 3 possibilities of him cheating in 2020.
1st - topoviygus is nothing but a neural network that is learning to play the game on its own, and it becomes ONLY BETTER as time goes on.
2nd - another neural network that stops progressing whenever you desire. (means he will 'get stuck' at a certain level of skill and will not become any better. JumpBugs anyone? KEKW).
3rd - very unlikely he's very close to being a god of this game cuz he's just THAT GOOD.
Now, enjoy witch-hunting.
Enjoy new top5
rekt18/07/2020 14:00
Funny how people who don't even play the game anymore get riled up for this. I guess drama is always fun to read. Patchouli must be happy that this kind of focus shifted to another player.
Gorbachev_x 18/07/2020 14:25
18/07/2020 14:25IMO the real battle is topoviygus vs patchouli.
Dowla18/07/2020 14:31
Originally posted by FLPOriginally posted by zythH^Originally posted by UniverseWasn't LEWLY kinda the same? He was playing only on pubs, having good times and some WR's here and there but when he decided that he wanted to record he kinda rofl stomped the whole XJ in that era as far as i remember. As for what is more ridiculous let's put it this way, having wr on goldbhop and fu_extreme and fu_insane or having wr on kz_3jumpbugsinaROW and qsk_azure and kz_dare. How about comparing with other WR's ? It's goldbhop or was it that good? Is it better than kzno_xtremeblock/kz_cliffez/kz_facility/kz_cg_extreme/kz_synergy_x, etc?
Are you really comparing LEWLY who had 10 years experience when he beat everyone back in 2014 with a 18 years old dude that quit for some reasonable time to lose a decent amount of skill and then comeback BETTER than EVERYONE? In best case scenario he started playing this game at 10 years old and that would give him 8 years of experience, which people didn't really support that, so he might have max 3/4 years experience and mastering extreme maps, bhop maps, speed climbing maps like its nothing lmao. You are literally saying that people like LEWLY that needed 10 years to rekt everyone and people like Toffifee, shNz, g-Lp who are extremely skilled at this get just OWNED by him? I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Ty brother,It amazes me after so many years and after LyNn case that people still don't understand what is possible and what is not in this game.
Instead of focusing on the ammount of demos focus on the runs itself,let me put it this way,you would need less time and less skill to beat Lewleys and Fyksens 100 demos than to beat kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ which was probably the best run ever.
If I had to pick 10 best and hardest to beat records on xj this would probably be the list:
kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ
patchouli's kz_synergy_x
patchouli's kzno_xtremeblock
Kkz's kz_rambo_xen
kzz1lla's bkz_wallblock
kzz1lla's clintmo_bhopbarrels
Ss's kz_cg_wigbl0ck
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[1337trees]
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[sequoia
And probably sHnz's prochallenge_bhop
Beating 2 records from that list is impossible but very hard,beating 4 of them in 1 month by one fucking player is not humanly possible.
And all of those 4 require different set of skills :) so being in top shape for all those maps in such a short period? Hell no
Btw fyks triggered af lol
Whosthat18/07/2020 14:36
Originally posted by Gorbachev_xIMO the real battle is topoviygus vs patchouli.
This!
rawe 18/07/2020 15:40
18/07/2020 15:40Originally posted by FLPOriginally posted by zythH^Originally posted by UniverseWasn't LEWLY kinda the same? He was playing only on pubs, having good times and some WR's here and there but when he decided that he wanted to record he kinda rofl stomped the whole XJ in that era as far as i remember. As for what is more ridiculous let's put it this way, having wr on goldbhop and fu_extreme and fu_insane or having wr on kz_3jumpbugsinaROW and qsk_azure and kz_dare. How about comparing with other WR's ? It's goldbhop or was it that good? Is it better than kzno_xtremeblock/kz_cliffez/kz_facility/kz_cg_extreme/kz_synergy_x, etc?
Are you really comparing LEWLY who had 10 years experience when he beat everyone back in 2014 with a 18 years old dude that quit for some reasonable time to lose a decent amount of skill and then comeback BETTER than EVERYONE? In best case scenario he started playing this game at 10 years old and that would give him 8 years of experience, which people didn't really support that, so he might have max 3/4 years experience and mastering extreme maps, bhop maps, speed climbing maps like its nothing lmao. You are literally saying that people like LEWLY that needed 10 years to rekt everyone and people like Toffifee, shNz, g-Lp who are extremely skilled at this get just OWNED by him? I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Ty brother,It amazes me after so many years and after LyNn case that people still don't understand what is possible and what is not in this game.
Instead of focusing on the ammount of demos focus on the runs itself,let me put it this way,you would need less time and less skill to beat Lewleys and Fyksens 100 demos than to beat kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ which was probably the best run ever.
If I had to pick 10 best and hardest to beat records on xj this would probably be the list:
kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ
patchouli's kz_synergy_x
patchouli's kzno_xtremeblock
Kkz's kz_rambo_xen
kzz1lla's bkz_wallblock
kzz1lla's clintmo_bhopbarrels
Ss's kz_cg_wigbl0ck
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[1337trees]
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[sequoia
And probably sHnz's prochallenge_bhop
Beating 2 records from that list is impossible but very hard,beating 4 of them in 1 month by one fucking player is not humanly possible.
Bhopbarrels lmao, the rest is ok
fykseN 18/07/2020 16:23
18/07/2020 16:23Originally posted by DowlaOriginally posted by FLPOriginally posted by zythH^Originally posted by UniverseWasn't LEWLY kinda the same? He was playing only on pubs, having good times and some WR's here and there but when he decided that he wanted to record he kinda rofl stomped the whole XJ in that era as far as i remember. As for what is more ridiculous let's put it this way, having wr on goldbhop and fu_extreme and fu_insane or having wr on kz_3jumpbugsinaROW and qsk_azure and kz_dare. How about comparing with other WR's ? It's goldbhop or was it that good? Is it better than kzno_xtremeblock/kz_cliffez/kz_facility/kz_cg_extreme/kz_synergy_x, etc?
Are you really comparing LEWLY who had 10 years experience when he beat everyone back in 2014 with a 18 years old dude that quit for some reasonable time to lose a decent amount of skill and then comeback BETTER than EVERYONE? In best case scenario he started playing this game at 10 years old and that would give him 8 years of experience, which people didn't really support that, so he might have max 3/4 years experience and mastering extreme maps, bhop maps, speed climbing maps like its nothing lmao. You are literally saying that people like LEWLY that needed 10 years to rekt everyone and people like Toffifee, shNz, g-Lp who are extremely skilled at this get just OWNED by him? I mean, it's just bullshit in my opinion and I would sign on what FLP said, in fact when LyNn was around, me and him were literally saying everywhere it was a matter of time so here we are again mate.
Ty brother,It amazes me after so many years and after LyNn case that people still don't understand what is possible and what is not in this game.
Instead of focusing on the ammount of demos focus on the runs itself,let me put it this way,you would need less time and less skill to beat Lewleys and Fyksens 100 demos than to beat kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ which was probably the best run ever.
If I had to pick 10 best and hardest to beat records on xj this would probably be the list:
kzz1lla's cg_strafejumpZ
patchouli's kz_synergy_x
patchouli's kzno_xtremeblock
Kkz's kz_rambo_xen
kzz1lla's bkz_wallblock
kzz1lla's clintmo_bhopbarrels
Ss's kz_cg_wigbl0ck
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[1337trees]
Ss's kz_giantbean_b15[sequoia
And probably sHnz's prochallenge_bhop
Beating 2 records from that list is impossible but very hard,beating 4 of them in 1 month by one fucking player is not humanly possible.
And all of those 4 require different set of skills :) so being in top shape for all those maps in such a short period? Hell no
Btw fyks triggered af lol
Phantometry is a baiter, everyone knows he can’t KZ even if he would want to. I can’t take him seriously, but he enjoys the flame as much as I do. Bit of a love/hate relationship. I hope he’s gonna enjoy the upcoming releases <3
Phantometry18/07/2020 17:36(edited 18/07/2020 17:36)
Originally posted by fykseNPhantometry is a baiter, everyone knows he can’t KZ even if he would want to. I can’t take him seriously, but he enjoys the flame as much as I do. Bit of a love/hate relationship. I hope he’s gonna enjoy the upcoming releases <3
Dem baits just keep going on and on XD
And wtf man, I never hated any of you guys.
Speaking about KZ, did I even try to play it? As far as I remember, I only did LJ/TJ back in the days. Never really put any effort into geeking KZ maps at all.
And hey, I did pretty good with LJs. For example, here's the video I did in 'sort of prime era of mine'. https://youtu.be/lBTM6Or3JZg
Also, 273 dcj (checked by FAME and many others) is top 2 stats for XJ at this very moment. It's pretty funny cuz the stats are just the same as memek's on his 274 block. You can find the demo here if you want http://unique-kz.net/demos_lj.php.
Last but not least, if you think that the God will not take any of his demos back, then I have some bad news for you =)
fykseN 18/07/2020 18:27
18/07/2020 18:27come on man, I was joking, thought we're on the same wave of baiting energy
:)
paaveli18/07/2020 19:53
lol phantometry do you really think people can take you seriously after all the shit that surrounded you over the years?
Also, this post = pure trash
Johnny18/07/2020 23:13(edited 18/07/2020 23:19)
Phantometry and his neural consciousness. It was never about being recognised by others, right? And when he truly tried to play without dem cheats he would constantly mourn about the pointlessness of spending time on games/computers, and look who's here again.
Phantometry18/07/2020 23:42
Holy moly! Didn't think you'd take dem bait that deep.
sbzvln 19/07/2020 01:11(edited 19/07/2020 01:13)
Thanks for all the feedback, though I must say that I am quite suprised by the comments labeling it a bait topic. I´ve been around for many years and never have I seen a player disrupt the skill levels in such an unbelievable way. Even despite the fact that I had a break of approximately 13 years. There´s no doubt topoviygus is the very best at the moment, but the question is whether or not the others can level their own skills, by learning from him. Even more so considering some might play a bit less. Time will tell, but in my eyes it will be hard to surpass this guy. Even for reputable players as shooting-star and fikseN. A silver lining, however, is the fact that Dolphin seems to be a potential competitor concerning the bunnyhop maps. Although I doubt he will try and start a battle with him as it tends to be better to not trigger the 'goats' too much - history demonstrated.
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