Bhop : Questions and answers
I admit it's kinda stupid, but i somehow don't get how to do proper bhoplj's with stand up..
yes, my standups are not THAT good, but when i try to use them on bhoplj's they just don't have any effect and they don't push me of the ground
i can do 230 w/o standup even in a run but i'm not satisfied with it
cause i need to long to do it...
i didn't want to use a stats plugin for bhops, but maybe the "you jumped too early" thingy would help me to time my standup/bhop???
Well u do need to hold crouch then release when u press spacebar (jump) try to work on ur pre for ur bhop lj also and yes the "you jumped to early" might help you it probally has helped a few people
04/06/2008 01:06Lol slowmo is not an option for me...
Seems like no one possesses the knowledge to answer my questions :(
And also :D space sucks for bhopping.
Originally posted by wRath^I have a lot of questions:
#1. How much does bhopping with a drop help you?
#2. Is there a limit to how high the drop is before it stops increasing your jumping length? Like you can't jump any further from 1000 units height drop than you can with 2000 units drop.
#3. Does standup on drop-bhops have any effect?
#4. Is drop-cj a lot more effective than weird-lj?
#5. Is doubleducking before the edge or on the jump itself just as effective on drop-cjs?
#6. Can you have higher prestrafe/maxspeed on drop-bhops?
#7. Is there some kind of limit to the prestrafe/maxspeed?
That's all..
1. Dunno - someone else will answer I hope.
2. Didn't understood.
3. I think it dose (in the bad side), althow didn't tryed.
4. View 5 answer.
5. Players are making it to avoid eadgefriction.
6. Prestrafe - no. Maxspeed - yes.
7. Prestrafe - yes there is - dunno how it's calculated, but for 250speed weapons it is <300. Maxspeed - sv_maxvelocity cvar.
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Why with normal blj pros hardly can do ~245 (~300pre) and with wlj almost evrybody dose ~265 (~300pre)?
[blockquote]Why with normal blj pros hardly can do ~245 (~300pre) and with wlj almost evrybody dose ~265 (~300pre)? [/blockquote]
IMO its cuz of the jumping time (In ordinary LJ u have 0.732~secs, in Bhop-LJ u have 0.66~ )
04/06/2008 13:22NumB.. on the second question I mean, is there a limit to the height of your drop, before it doesn't get more efficient?
Originally posted by wRath^NumB.. on the second question I mean, is there a limit to the height of your drop, before it doesn't get more efficient?
after the speed reaches the 2000units/s i think
(thx for the answer)
@ numb, i think because you make a stand up bhop, when you make the stand up bhop you are ducked, so you are not so tall as with the weird longjumps, at weird longjumps you dont have to duck before you jump so you can make ~265 and with bhop you have the same pre, but because you are ducked that time you cant make a big longjump.
sry for bad english, did you get it ?:S
bhop lj without standup: is shorter than normal LJ because you dont jump as high as normally. less height of jump -> shorter jump time -> less distance
bhop lj with standup: your jump is even a bit lower than a normal bhop i believe (dont know that for sure!) but the boost you get from the standup makes your jump faster right from the beginning. if you have a look at the difference in maxspeed between normal bhop lj and standup bhoplj, normal is around 330-340 and standup is 340-355. so you compensate your less jumpheight by higher speed.
now what is better for you?
if you have good but not really awsome strafes and maxspeeds (gain around 40-50 in normal LJ) Standup bhops could be better for you, because your problem is speed. Standup might help you with that.
if have some uber porno strafes (55-70 gain in lj -> greetz to kenny at this point) bhoplj without standup should be better for you because you can gain really good speed without needing to standupbhop and additionally you have a little jump-height advantage, which might make a big difference :)
about drop bhops:
never really cared about them, but afaik you get a boost when you would get hurt (1-99 falling dmg), you dont get boost anymore if would would die (100hp+ falling dmg) from the dropjump. But thats just guessing, not really sure about this at all. maybe the engine is as stupid as it is with jump bugs at this point: you fall down -> hurt yourself (falling dmg) -> engine calculates falling dmg -> forgets about slowing you down. maybe eDark or someone else who knows how the engine works behind the scenes can explain that.
I have some question.. u know that the limit of Bhop LJ pre is 299 u/s.. Does this limit stays on different weapons or it changes.. I mean with scout your limit will be 309 or 299 ? with famas.. 289 or 299 ?
im not sure i think it stays
lol if it stays it is possible to do 240-245 bhop with heavier weapons :D
nop if it stays, it stays only for the pre. BUT at the air you may dont have the same speed. correct me if im wrong
i've try to do 220bhlj with awp but i can't do it :(
28/06/2008 13:44Originally posted by IchWillI have some question.. u know that the limit of Bhop LJ pre is 299 u/s.. Does this limit stays on different weapons or it changes.. I mean with scout your limit will be 309 or 299 ? with famas.. 289 or 299 ?
No, it doesn't stay. I tried bhopping with awp. The limit with awp is more like 250... And yes, if it would stay, you could bhop with it just like USP/knife.
LJ height: 63 units
Stand-up height: 56 units
bhop height: dunno but less than 56 :)
is it true?
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