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6 Oct 2019, 01:32

Originally posted by fykseN
I never understood the point of landing lj blocks with bhop, don't you feel like it's a waste of time?


He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun

6 Oct 2019, 11:13

impossible? Forget that word

6 Oct 2019, 12:03

Originally posted by rawe
Originally posted by fykseN
I never understood the point of landing lj blocks with bhop, don't you feel like it's a waste of time?


He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


of course it's possible

6 Oct 2019, 12:54

Originally posted by rawe
He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


If it's possible in LJ Blocks, it's possible in BJ blocks. Bj blocks doesn't affect distance in any way.

6 Oct 2019, 13:19

It's easier to sbj on lj blocks

6 Oct 2019, 13:30

Originally posted by g-Lp
It's easier to sbj on lj blocks


Yea it's easier to jump more consistently on LJ/HJ blocks, but it's the same jump afterall

6 Oct 2019, 15:55

It's not about having fun anymore. The absolute state of XJ

6 Oct 2019, 20:05

Originally posted by samps
Originally posted by rawe
He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


If it's possible in LJ Blocks, it's possible in BJ blocks. Bj blocks doesn't affect distance in any way.


Try it for yourself

6 Oct 2019, 21:46

Originally posted by samps
Originally posted by rawe
He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


If it's possible in LJ Blocks, it's possible in BJ blocks. Bj blocks doesn't affect distance in any way.


Yes, it is possible, but it does not jump in the same way in block bj

8 Oct 2019, 00:29

Originally posted by samps
Originally posted by rawe
He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


If it's possible in LJ Blocks, it's possible in BJ blocks. Bj blocks doesn't affect distance in any way.

They does. When you touching block it start to fall down and during one frame it falls on 1 unit on kzlj2 map. So you actually jump some kind of up bhop with 1 unit difference.

8 Oct 2019, 09:23

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8 Oct 2019, 12:26

Originally posted by jigsaw
They does. When you touching block it start to fall down and during one frame it falls on 1 unit on kzlj2 map. So you actually jump some kind of up bhop with 1 unit difference.


This is not true. BJ blocks just narrows the time frame you have to perform the jump because of the block starting to move. So basically the only thing it affects is the consistency

8 Oct 2019, 12:40(edited 8 Oct 2019, 12:40)

Originally posted by jigsaw
Originally posted by samps
Originally posted by rawe
He already landed 248 SBJ block, what's the point of trying 249 if it's impossible? Better to do it on LJ block for fun


If it's possible in LJ Blocks, it's possible in BJ blocks. Bj blocks doesn't affect distance in any way.

They does. When you touching block it start to fall down and during one frame it falls on 1 unit on kzlj2 map. So you actually jump some kind of up bhop with 1 unit difference.

If you jump like from 1unit below, ljstats shouldnt show the stats then, right?

8 Oct 2019, 13:58

If it's the same then we wouldn't have people with 249 on lj block since 2011 and we would have them on the wr top instead

8 Oct 2019, 14:17(edited 8 Oct 2019, 14:18)

Originally posted by rawe
If it's the same then we wouldn't have people with 249 on lj block since 2011 and we would have them on the wr top instead


"Each technique must be done on the appropriate block type"

Does BJ blocks make you jump less? - no

Is landing a block harder in BJ blocks? - Technically yes, because it's harder to be more consistent -> you get less 'good' jumps

8 Oct 2019, 17:20(edited 8 Oct 2019, 17:27)

There is a height difference between your frame of jump and frame of landing on kz_ljs2 bhops. From what I know it varies depending on your fps (usually ~0.85 - ~0.95 units). If the player fps is at a stable 100, that means each frame is 0.01 seconds. Now if the mapper has set the bhop block to move at 100 units/s, we can see that it moves downwards 1 unit/frame. If the block speed is set at 400, it moves 4 units/frame. This is why very fast bhop blocks are not good for kz maps.

8 Oct 2019, 20:33

Just put there 0.1s delay before the block falls, just like every good mapper does these days. 4Head

8 Oct 2019, 22:44

Originally posted by Commandeer
There is a height difference between your frame of jump and frame of landing on kz_ljs2 bhops. From what I know it varies depending on your fps (usually ~0.85 - ~0.95 units). If the player fps is at a stable 100, that means each frame is 0.01 seconds. Now if the mapper has set the bhop block to move at 100 units/s, we can see that it moves downwards 1 unit/frame. If the block speed is set at 400, it moves 4 units/frame. This is why very fast bhop blocks are not good for kz maps.

if its 1 unit per frame...does it mean AFTER jumping ? because i think if you do 1fog, this wont affect you (because block is already on the normal height lol), but on doing bj 2fog will, on the second frame on the ground...correct me if im wrong

9 Oct 2019, 10:46

Its not the same at all and setting up delay for bhop blocks is good idea

9 Oct 2019, 11:14

Originally posted by JocA
if its 1 unit per frame...does it mean AFTER jumping ? because i think if you do 1fog, this wont affect you (because block is already on the normal height lol), but on doing bj 2fog will, on the second frame on the ground...correct me if im wrong


Thats how it should work atleast. The block movement can't trigger before 1FOG and if you do a 1FOG jump it in theory shouldn't be affecting height

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