The perfect strafes
9 is the optimal number of strafes.
27/06/2008 22:39Originally posted by IchWillFilibo maybe you're right but I cant agree with you about other weapons, cuz the time in air doesn't change when you are with heavier or lighter weapon :)
No, the time doesn't change, but when your speed is lower you can do faster/bigger strafes or so.
well "the perfect strafes" style is always 1(doesn't matter how much ground speed u have) it is different on other techniques (CJ/BH/LJ/HJ)
at 10u/s ground speed difference you will have 7 units difference on block
I found a draft of the image with 24 bits and remade: http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2729/perfectlongjump2sd9.png
Better? :P
ok.. now we know how much big they should be, but I still don't know when u must move your mouse slower/faster
I think the #1 and #2, wait for a PRO answer
Some information for such thoughts, can be thound here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/twzwgu
2 263units demos with 8/12 strafes and position on the map in console, and gif file with motion path of jumps in same scale. As we can c, both jumps not so perfect :) and sorry for such demos, forget to set cl_updaterate = 101 :(
added: and finally i did it http://www.sendspace.com/file/h3d34b - 252 standupbhop jump, with positions on the map in console... so from them anyone who want can reconstruct motion path.
Lt.Rat your bhop strafes are like these on LJ but a bit smaller or ? ..and how did u get 100% sync I always have antispeed and even less than 90% in every 2nd strafe ?
same strafes, but yes smaller than in lj8strafes and wider than in lj12strafes, coz using 10 strafes
to get 100 sync, we need to analyze 2 vectors, vector were we looking, and movment vector, in diffrent speed, we need difrent angle between them, but then we change strafe, we have area, where we cant get acceleration (coz that double angle), and in that time we lose some sync, but with special key pressing and very fast moving mouse we can avoid loose of speed; or use another technique, but i forget it ((: and second technique not so good, coz we loose 1 frame (for acceleration) each strafe, but we get 100 sync, so loosing of that 1 frame is not so good, and i choose 1st one...
and motion path for 252 bhop script, not in same scale but comparable :) http://www.sendspace.com/file/y8wi39
lol u know so much, you are eDark2 ! so u use 1st technique (without loosing frames) ?
yes, and saving such frames...
if we choose 2nd technique - more strafes less frames to get good speed (:
so with 1st technique distance in 8 strafes and 12 strafes ~ equal, but if we choose 2nd technique, i`ll get less distance with 12 strafes :) but in both case (8/12 strafes), jump linearity ~ same, so no need to do more strafes than we need, i think that i can do same length jump with 7 strafes and mb with 6 strafes... try to do sinusoid motion path, like 12 strafes graph... and it will be the best motion path. but really hard to do it with hands :)
30/06/2008 09:00But is that really perfect? Doesn't that mean it's just 100% sync? -> Is sync correct?
he isnt using a script imo......... im not so sure but i think that's some kind of program O_O pic from fps death click me no strafes???? D: only the pre is made by script ;) but who cares.... D:
Originally posted by FliboBut is that really perfect? Doesn't that mean it's just 100% sync? -> Is sync correct?
u think that official Numb`s ljstats gives wrong values? Sync is correct.
Originally posted by stask0he isnt using a script imo......... im not so sure but i think that's some kind of program O_O pic from fps death click me no strafes???? D: only the pre is made by script ;) but who cares.... D:
yes, its not a alias script, its external program that control player with given script.
nice :D
hey, sync isnt the porcentage of precision on strafes? like press D and turn right.
sync is the synchronization between A D and turn left and right with the mouse. if u press a and turn right u will get low sync :D
I watched lt.rat 8 strafe demo and i started thinking.. the best lj i ever had was with 2 huge strafe 2 normal ones and 2 small .. i wrote this in lj questions and answers Long* time ago , never tought of it like now .. just tryed some ljs lan this way and yes i had a huge improvment i coudnt do 250 this days ... and with this i did 254 4-5 times for a short period of time , so yes if you cant do a lot of strafes just change size
what about CJ (on LJ Block) ?
wtf cj is cj no matter where it is .. but there are differences if you have 280 pre you better stick to the lj thing - 2 big 2 normal 2 small .. if your pre is 290 .. you should better do some small fast strafes to the end
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