HideNSeek
Note: this is not meant to be a selfish thread about me and my community in any ways, im just trying to explain the fact that hidenseek is a big game nowadays yet there is no big communities for it. So if your reading this post and only got a bad comment to reply with, please dont even spent time posting it, for those who finds it interesting, i hope you agree with me.
And my question to you out there is, what do you think about this?
Headlines:
1. General information.
2. The community.
3. Servers.
General Information:
Hidenseek has basicly existed since day 1 of Counter-Strike without all the new fancy addons and so on people are using on their servers these days.
The game itself got famous for around 2 years ago and has been growing ever since, more and more people are starting to play the game, along with that more people might also start playing kreedz if they dont already, or people from kreedz might even go over to play hidenseek, so the question is why is there no big hns community?
The answer to that i can't tell, since it's still not clear to me, as far as i know there is one solid and stable hns community (the one i own called www.hidenseek.eu / #hideandseek).
Why is most of the people playing hns only using XJ, XJ is a big and great site ofcourse but it doesn't really support hns in any ways, sure there has been some news about a map that raver made and a tournament arranged in my community, but overall XJ ain't a hns community.
What is it that makes people use XJ for hidenseek related stuff, my answer to that would be that it is as big as it is and most of the people are friendly towards eachother, but wouldn't it be great to make a section for hidenseek players, well? Wait a moment, that is already made.
We are going into a dark era at this very moment, more and more people are starting to get used to 100airaccelerate, but what is the point of that? Sure it is a little change in the settings used for years (except the gravity part that has been used alot in kreedz first hidenseek map), but playing hidenseek with 100airaccelerate - ain't that the same as playing kreedz with 200 gravity basicly? - It might just be a change in the settings, but it makes a big difference in the game...
I can only imagine how big the hns scene could get if people would support a community that has been trying the past year to make it much bigger by organizing tournaments and gathers.
As it is going these days we are getting more and more mappers interested into making hidenseek maps and by time im sure we will have some extremely beautiful and funny maps to play hidenseek on.
The more people that supports hidenseek and the community, the more tournaments, cups, and gathers will have a chance to be made with serious teams that actually wants to play hidenseek on a "higher" level.
The community:
www.hidenseek.eu / #hideandseek / hidenseek.eu has been up since 2005 using a channel called #hns where gathers etc was played, then by 2006 name changed to jumpers, and recently it got changed to hidenseek.eu, it has been trying to develope the game with more addons and tweaks to make it more funny when you play along with organizing cups and tournaments, gather also for that matter.
The purpose of this community is to help people that enjoys hidenseek and wants to play it on a "higher" level as mentioned before, but without the help from everyone out there playing hidenseek it can be hard.
Servers:
What about the hidenseek servers, it is getting harder and harder to find a server with 10 airaccelerate and a mapcycle that includes other maps than rooftops, that is why we have been setting up a few servers with the 10airaccelerate and different mapcycles, and one of the servers even uses the new tweak to hidenseek, a mod called hidenseek deathmatch, to see more about that use this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBXcWLkpE8 and it should explain it.
That is all i have to say for now, please write your opinion about this.
what hns related stuff are posted here at xj? trickjumps at hns maps! they are not exactly for hns though most of the jumps are to hard to make at hns.
the 100aa servers sucks yea, not the real settings and it should be played with 10aa ofc =D and i really enjoy the new hns dm coz it can be annoying when you dont respawn, you dont have the "currage" to do that extra spin etc.. so its not as many runners.
well, i think the most important thing with hns.eu is to provide servers with great players, regular maps (not just only rooftops) and good admins, not to make hns tournaments, gathers etc.. even tho its really good that we are making them :)
Because basicly most of HNS'ers are KZ jumpers too. Especially longjumpers, which mainly is a part of KZ.
I don't think 100aa is bad, I play with it - The reason is I think it's a lot faster, and I like it when it's so fast.
Yes it would be the same as playing KZ with 200 gravity, but if I thought that was more fun, I would do that too. It all depends, for me, on what is most fun to play.
Because basicly most of HNS'ers are KZ jumpers too. Especially longjumpers, which mainly is a part of KZ.
Thats not entirely true
Ive beeb on alot of HNS servers with ljstats and im always top of the lj10 with 240
HNSers are completely different to KZers in my opinion :)
kz_hideandseek_b02 ftw
Well i want to be honest with you.. i really didn't get the question?
Are you asking xj to include all the stuff from hns.eu to give hns a better chance to develope?
Or do you simply search for help, to find a reason why hns didn't develope just like kz did?
No offence.. i just don't get it... :/
To give a quick answer.. there are 2 reasons why i prefer kz to hns:
1.) many players are just flaming all day long. I mean, i really dont play hns often... can't say that. But when i play it, and i try some jump i saw in a movie or whatever and i die trying it, the only comment i get is "lol, noob". Well.. not the kind of motivation newcommers need. Ofc i know, there is nothing that you can do about it, but it's the way it is.
2.) rooftops only.. hns has 1 really big problem: you guys are lack of maps!! When i join a hns server its a 90% chance that it will have rooftops running. This may be cool for some time.. but it will becaome boring, sooner or later. You really gotta try to find mappers, that create GOOD maps with GOOD FPS !!! Good maps means maps, that are a different in the way of playing than rooftops. There are a couple of hns maps, but most of them are more or less rooftops clones. So variety in maps is missing!
Another thing that i noticed when playing hns.. I often just stand around or doing endless jumps, running or whatever.. but it takes too long.. It might be my fault as a hns-noob, but as a kz'er I am used to pushing keys all of the time. There is only few maps where you have a second to rest. So when you find a mapper, tell him to create a smaller map, shorter ways, more action! HNS seems (to me) more about "can I do this uber-geek-jump anytime or not" instead of "who's coordination of hands, eyes and keys is best. I want speedmaps like in kz (kz_cliffez, av_aegyptian blah blah dunno how to spell this or westbl0ck just to give some examples). I think this is basicly the main reason why so many guys prefer aa100 in hns.. aa10 is simply too slow on rooftops!
Hope you understand what i mean, and i hope that i could somehow help you =)
greetz
Im basicly asking why nobody has been supporting the hns scene like so many people supported the kz scene.
- And the reason for that is?
That is my question.
28/08/2008 07:36think cauze hns is not part of kz :)
imo kz=hns (more or less) cause it`s still a cs mod that involves moving urself as fast as possible thru a map...
the reason why it doesnt get that much attention is maybe because players are used to post demo/tricks/jumps here @ XJ...
maybe XJ could try and help you guys out by making a thread that leads to HNS.eu .... but that`s not my call :)
noqex, u should try speaking to faker or oddysseus about this... a small partnership between XJ and HNS.EU ... that`s the only thing that could help the HNS community grow :S
as far as what emti said... well most of it is true... tho the servers i play on dont have 100aa... and its just fine... lack of maps? well the Romanian HNS community has some pretty good mappers imo... they`re growing better day by day at mapping and they produce very good looking maps, with very good gameplay... yet i still think it`s hard to produce a non-rooftops copy... because thats basicaly what a hns map is all about... ljs, ladders, boxes, etc...
hope i wasnt to forward with my post... but i think that was ur purpose with this thread (and that is to atract more people to HNS.EU... i`m a member there XD for quite a long time :p)
28/08/2008 09:00Originally posted by Bibokz_hideandseek_b02 ftw
Yeah, the old hideandseek, also the best one xD
I used to play it with my friends a long time ago.
btw, whats the meaning of hns? how it works? i just cant get it :/
many players are just flaming all day long.
Player 1: You fucking nubslahsed me
Player 2: And?
Player 1: Thats not allowed!
Player 2: Yes it is
Player 1: Then why does nobody like it?
Player 2: Then why is there not a plugin on here to stop nub slashing?
Player 1: ....
Player 1: FUCK YOU
Player 1 leaves the server
etc.
Happens every time and alot of ppl get bored of it and play some relaxing KZ
Player 1: Wanna play KZ?
Player 2: Yea sure!
Player 1 and 2 are very happy because KZ is awesome and nobody gets insulsted by nubs who think they're sooooooo fucking amazing because they can LJ 223 and bhop along a line of bhop blocks with no gaps between them
28/08/2008 13:52(edited 28/08/2008 13:53)Originally posted by scaryBecause basicly most of HNS'ers are KZ jumpers too. Especially longjumpers, which mainly is a part of KZ.
I don't think 100aa is bad, I play with it - The reason is I think it's a lot faster, and I like it when it's so fast.
Yes it would be the same as playing KZ with 200 gravity, but if I thought that was more fun, I would do that too. It all depends, for me, on what is most fun to play.
I would rather say it's like playing kz with axn, which sure is fun. 100aa is just a twist in the game, why not play with it? It's cool! Btw, I really would like to see "nubslash" back, it's just nuubish that you can only stab...
Originally posted by noqexIm basicly asking why nobody has been supporting the hns scene like so many people supported the kz scene.
- And the reason for that is?
That is my question.
You support the thing you like. I support kz because I think it's more fun than hns. KZ is being developing since 2003(?) so it's like 5 years, what do you expect? Of course it'd be in a higher level than the hns.
eusunt, i get your point, KZ is bigger, but im just wondering why the hns scene haven't developed to a bigger thing than it is...
Originally posted by eMTi1.) many players are just flaming all day long.
2.) rooftops only..
So when you find a mapper, tell him to create a smaller map, shorter ways, more action! HNS seems (to me) more about "can I do this uber-geek-jump anytime or not"
first of all, its true that its pretty much insulting nowadays. it wasnt like that before, but at hns.eu we're really trying to get back the good old spirit. and the rooftops only thing, i agree. but same here, hns.eu isnt a rooftops only community, we are almost working against rooftops! using thoose old regular maps like nuke, train, italy_remake etc and we'll use new maps if we like them ofc, dont like the big maps with many ladders like rooftops and i dont think the others in the community does either.
i think its good with small maps, i actually like playing maps like inferno, dust2 at hns. but no one else does :D but train is okay, pretty small map with many places to bhop. and now we got the hns deathmatch, in there its action all the time! coz no one really cares if he dies there, trying some hard tricks and stuff. so its fun
our servers have been a bit f*cked up for a while, but we just got them working again and want to get the players back to the servers (players with good attitude ;)
Because of the Horiible scabby new players that are Sh!te and hns and think they own, and comment on every failure/ fault you do, that's the main reason i don't play hns anymore, i'd rather try my hand at KZ and b'hop maps. the only time i like playing hns is when it's with mates and people i like.
I love playing hns, and i'd like to see the HNS scene grow bigger, and as kevlarr said, i also think that the main reason why people dont play hns, is because on almost every server there are people that calles you a noob etc if you fail a trick/jump.
when it comes to 100aa I dont get why ppl change server setting to do jumps easier/further. hns is a mod to cs and when you make a mod u dont change unessesary setting to make thing easier. the only mod (I know of) that needs 100aa is surf, and that's cuz it's practicly impossbile to do anything at surf maps without.
I wonder why ppl even started to change the airacc at all( ? ). they probably saw some guy cheat at a demo and thought "HEY! I can do that to! ppl will think Im the best in the whole wide world!".. or somth
10aa isnt hard, it's just harder, and if u dont have a challange, it get's boring after a short time.
100aa is so easy, you can be just as good as everyone else 3 months after u bought CS.
about the atitude ur talking about, I kinda agree, but if u play hns there isnt just the "insulters", there are loads of cool ppl that are nice and respectfull. I think that the problem is that ppl care to much bout what other ppl says.
if someone is being an ass, ignor them,
as someone said, hns.eu and xj.eu should start a pertnership where everything hns-related is refered to hns.eu. atleast for a while until hns.eu is big :)
Many people here dislike hns due to the environment of "the average" hns server, which is understandable. The only way to improve the atmosphere is to act well yourself, ignore the people who call others noobs, maybe even say nice try if the last person gets killed during the last seconds instead of calling the other team luckers or so.
But most of the time even the worst flamers act better when you act positively. (The same goes the other way, if you act childishly, no-one will probably be nice to you either.)
I haven't play hns actively for about a year, but it's always fun to play in a server where the players are positive and not taking it too seriously.
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