Null HP Bug
Yeah i want to know too...
Legalize it !
Gonna post my cutsom version.
08/08/2009 10:37Originally posted by RemaKe`Is it safe or not then? Would like to get some response from admins :P
Btw removing 0hp bug is good, because this bug is caused by another bug - the healer. Mappers bugged engine so you'll get unlimited hp, and because of this bug, another bug occured, so i can't see anything illegal removing it with a plugin.
it is not, i think it was told much times already by admins.
also i dont think removing any bugs by plugins is normal
When removing bugs by plugins isn't normal, what about intentional bugging then?
I already said that it's not an "usual" bug, it's a bug that came up cause of another bug that mappers invited - Intentional inviting of bugs is imo more illegal than removing them.
EDIT: And there are new demoadmins, which was the reason why i was asking for that (cause demoadmins make rules for demos)
10/08/2009 13:04Originally posted by RemaKe`Intentional inviting of bugs is imo more illegal than removing them.
so your point is if there is a bug - someone should fix it with an amxx plugin?
you are overrating amxx usage and its meaning
isnt it illegal to change gameplay by an addon (!) in any way?
ps. I dont get your "intentional inventing of bugs" idea, but it sound like:
both are illegal, but if we do something "less illegal" than it not illegal anymore
I think i said it all, even twice? I said that healer is a bug that mappers invited, without healer there wouldn't be 0 hp bug. Making healer was intentional bugging of an engine, i'm more than sure that authors of hl engine didn't want players to get such an advance.
So basicly / Healer is a bug, 0hpbug is a random bug that can occure ONLY cause of the healer, which means.. *invited* bug triggered another bug.
lets throw a coin and let the fate decide
10/08/2009 18:35did authors of hl engine want to jumpbugs wallbugs take place? thats bad excuse to use amxx
You still don't understand that these things are totally different. I'm out, hf.
10/08/2009 21:52(edited 10/08/2009 21:56)I got your point, I think you actually dont understand me.
Im just saying its still cs gameplay like it or not
I dont see any reason to allow changing gameplay by an addon
(in record demos ofc)
so it`s not safe then?
14/12/2009 11:07cĄhz0r
Originally posted by PrEn1uMzTheBiShOp made a similar plugin about +1 year ago and every admin tell him it'll not be accepted while recording.
Now you just made the same thing so I don't think rules should change.
Like I said, it's just another bug of Half-Life's engine, like the CJ or the JB or edgebug, and both of these bugs are accepted like they are, and the only reason why you people think this plugin should be legal is because it's could help you.
ok, i got`it now. thx spr1n
rofl spr1n....ITS NOT A HL ENGINE BUG.
the bug was CREATED when the mappers added the hp boosters to kz maps.
its not like mappers had to invent something so that people could bhop or cj - which were engine bugs.
the hp bug was a RESULT of the hp booster - which was created by mappers.
im just trying to say it in as many ways possible so its hard for you to misunderstand.
imo i dont see the harm in allowing this to be in the records, because it doesnt add any advantage from the hl engine. it just stops it being annoying to get 0hp in a run.
15/12/2009 12:16It is still a engine bug, there is some places in engine where it uses health from HUD to check if player is dead, so basicly it should check player's pdata, but NOT health from hud.
15/12/2009 12:27(edited 15/12/2009 12:34)Originally posted by kz[aHazard]
rofl spr1n....ITS NOT A HL ENGINE BUG.
the bug was CREATED when the mappers added the hp boosters to kz maps.
its not like mappers had to invent something so that people could bhop or cj - which were engine bugs.
the hp bug was a RESULT of the hp booster - which was created by mappers.
im just trying to say it in as many ways possible so its hard for you to misunderstand.
imo i dont see the harm in allowing this to be in the records, because it doesnt add any advantage from the hl engine. it just stops it being annoying to get 0hp in a run.
it IS RESULT of the hp booster. but it IS ENGINE bug! 0hp is bugging players hud, not the map. bug still take place if there are other ways invented to give hp (with amx for example). also this plugin has nothing to do with fixing map, it fixes gameplay.
15/12/2009 13:32Changing 1 line in engine would be enough, but wait, VALVE is lazy as f*ck.
but it fixes the gameplay CREATED by users.
it imo doesnt change any advantage to any player, just stops it from being annoying to get 0hp midway through an awesome run. i cant see any noteworthy arguments in favour of holding this back :S....
16/12/2009 10:04I am wondering is it possible to show for example 1337 hp , because 255 is the max ?
16/12/2009 13:13Originally posted by DiDo-GI am wondering is it possible to show for example 1337 hp , because 255 is the max ?
No you can't, the 255 is HP hud limit, by the way armor hud has the limit of 1000.
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