Common annoyances in maps

Started by liquidi
07/02/2009 15:28
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liquidi07/02/2009 15:28(edited 07/02/2009 15:57)

Not sure if a thread like this exists but what do you think are the most common little annoyances in the official maps? Also include at least one example map.

I'll start by telling mine:

Start location too far from the jumps: Really even if it is like 6s far from first jump it's get really annoying if you restart fairly often. Example: j2s_sunblock, just played this in xj public server. :p

Lots of easy jumps, but still not much chance to bhop: A freaking BIG annoyance. And there are a lot of maps like this also. I think it's important to keep the player entertained all the time and regardless of his skill -- in general, keep the player challenged. This also applies to bhop maps where you can't do so much bhop skips, like utopia. There are just too many maps like this :F

Low lighting: Yeah I'd rather like to see where I'm jumping next without adjusting my gamma settings or cranking the monitor brightness abnormally high. It's true low lighting might add some atmosphere but i have always been the guy who prefers good jumps over looks. Example kz_kzsca_hell.

Luck jumps: Mostly duck jumps. I have yet to find a guy who really likes duck jumps, especially bhop duck jumps. But still so many map has them, why oh why? Example 4tunnels.

aftermatch-_-07/02/2009 15:39

duck jumps make me throw my monitor out of the window

soul v2.0 mapper07/02/2009 15:54

people who say lightning instead of lighting

liquidi07/02/2009 15:56(edited 07/02/2009 15:57)

Originally posted by soul|ftw
people who say lightning instead of lighting


Ah thanks, didn't notice that :) Fixed.

Remote07/02/2009 16:38

Teleports - Example is on kz_kzsca_research, the jump just after you pass 218bhoplj. If you fail you get teleported too far from the jump (IMO) and it's really annoying if you fail there for 10 times. :D
Also, I really hate teleport mistakes on many non-official bhop maps. You fail and you get teleported with your back looking to the stage you just passed.

liquidi07/02/2009 16:49(edited 07/02/2009 16:52)

Good point brendo, i completely agree. But luckily that's not really very common.

cC|SpiNe07/02/2009 17:26

Yeah OMG getting teleported with your back to the bhop. That is more annyong than eusunt on helium!

itachi^07/02/2009 20:20(edited 07/02/2009 20:20)

head hitters..... i feel like punshing into my screen when im nochecking a big map and see a giant wall of head hitters infront of the end

cheche07/02/2009 20:28

Bhop-LJs and watch-your-head jumps.

s1gh07/02/2009 21:23

ladders

Dacca07/02/2009 22:13

Spikes !!!! I always jump too far :D

Godlajk07/02/2009 22:24

Originally posted by aftermatch-_-
duck jumps make me throw my monitor out of the window


+1337!

Also headhitters and spikes!

CAKEbuilder08/02/2009 08:14

Originally posted by itachi^
head hitters..... i feel like punshing into my screen when im nochecking a big map and see a giant wall of head hitters infront of the end


I seriously hate looking up when I jump.

NumB08/02/2009 09:47

Waterfall sounds. Am using a script to disable those sounds, but some servers don't allow it, cuz use it for fps_max reseting.

alias m_pitch stopsound

Hate those waterfalls...

Fliborecord holder Tournament #208/02/2009 12:07(edited 08/02/2009 14:39)

Bhop teleports. Sometimes they're too near to the bhop blocks, so you might get teleported even though you still could do the jump. And also when the teleport destination is directly on ground, it should be 4-8 or so units above the ground, so when you get teleported, you don't bhop on the destination... Hard to explain, but I hope you get what I mean :P Can't remember which maps have these problems, but bkz_goldbhop has the latter problem.

Ropes. They're so friggin hard to climb sometimes, especially in maps like risk_bhop_bunny. I like ladders WAY more.

DUCKJUMPS (where you have to strafe)!!! I know they aren't a problem for regular jumpers, but with my config it's friggin hard to strafe and hold duck at the same time! Imagine first jumping with W and then immediately starting to hold S (duck) and D! Oh, on top of that, my keyboard doesn't like it. So, often I just w-strafe that kind of jumps, or do them sideways. Examples: kz_man_urbanjump, kz_cfl_yamakasi.

Maps where you have to bhop every jump! liquidi mentioned that he hates maps where the jumps are easy but not bhopable. Imo those maps rock! Especially when you can do 2 bhops on one block! But maps like kz_lostworld and fof_utopia... My hands seriously don't like it. I have to strafe like a mad cow and scroll all the time :/

Like liquidi said, luckjumps... kz_space2 has that, the dd part in the end. No matter how I try, I can't confidently do it every time. j2s_tunnels also has that problem, but at least you can practice it so you can do it really often. Also I hate boosters like the ones in kz_space and kz_space2.

WALLBUGS! I just can't stand them. Now I'm talking about those tiny invisible "blocks" between 2 blocks. Damn mappers should learn to avoid them! :( Examples: fof_utopia, kz_lostworld, can't think of more now, but there's LOTS more.

Last but not least: Intentional shortcuts. :C. Shortcuts are never nice if they're intentional :( Map without shortcuts > map with shortcuts. Examples, though I'm not completely sure if they're intentional: kz_kzdk_radiobase, kz_excavation etc...


I'm sure that's not all the annoyances, but I couldn't think of more.

aftermatch-_-08/02/2009 16:26

Originally posted by cheche
Bhop-LJs and watch-your-head jumps.


absolutely

Grrr08/02/2009 17:30

OMG U ALL MISSED FLASHED ROOMS ! (like that on ak_rh_warehouse_ns)

liquidi08/02/2009 18:37

Good points Flibo and well explained. And I bet you also hate the last jump in rabbithighway_ez :D

To some people here: please don't make this thread just a list or poll, give some more detail with your opinion.

Ryderc08/02/2009 21:55

I hate map with block....

? :D

Fliborecord holder Tournament #208/02/2009 22:51

Originally posted by liquidi
Good points Flibo and well explained. And I bet you also hate the last jump in rabbithighway_ez :D

To some people here: please don't make this thread just a list or poll, give some more detail with your opinion.


Haha yeah ^^ I used to do it with w-strafe, but I noticed that duck-cj was easier :P

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